Crispy Gamer Roasts GP Over Thompson Coverage

October 7, 2008 -

Over at Crispy Gamer, game scribe Kyle Orland pokes fun at the whole Jack Thompson is a media creation bit, with GamePolitics coming in for some extra attention:

A group of prominent game journalists is gathering together to fight the recent disbarment of anti-game crusader Jack Thompson. The group, headed by GamePolitics editor Dennis McCauley, issued an open letter to the Florida Supreme Court this morning, urging them to reinstate the controversial former lawyer...

 

The statement also included a link to an online petition where gamers could sign up to "get Jack Thompson off the bread lines and back in the headlines, where he belongs." Signatories on the letter include prominent writers for Kotaku, Joystiq, Destructoid and dozens of other gaming blogs...

 

McCauley is worried that those reveling in Thompson's fall from grace haven't fully absorbed what the game journalism landscape will look like without him... McCauley went on to argue that Thompson delivered "the spittle-flecked, borderline-incoherent rants that gamers wanted -- that they needed -- and in that he'll be nearly impossible to replace. We've lost a giant, and we need to do everything we can to get him back."
 

GP: Funny stuff, Kyle.

Oh, and I have just one word for you: paybacks...


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Re: Crispy Gamer Roasts GP Over Thompson Coverage

Kyle works for Joystiq if I remember?

Re: Crispy Gamer Roasts GP Over Thompson Coverage

Hahaha!  Well played!

"Volume helps to get a point across but sharp teeth are better."

"Volume helps to get a point across but sharp teeth are better."

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I'm kinda sad to see him go... sure, he was a raving, incoherent, illogical demogogue with delusions of grandeur and an irrepressible knack for fabricating his own "evidence" out of even the most clearly obvious realities, but he was OUR demogogue.

And yes... we helped to create him.

But what's more, I don't think it was the media alone that helped to create Thompson. As a matter of fact, I think that WE, gamers, created him even more than the media did.

We egged him on. We called him names. Some of us even harassed him. When he talks about recieving death threats from gamers I believe him. How could I not? [i]I've[/i] recieved death threats from other gamers simply by beating them online or by winning arguments in gaming forums.

Every time he came here we pushed him. In fairness he pushed back, and in our defense we probably (here at GP) weren't as bad as some other places he likely frequented, but the more he was in our sights the more strident he got.

I think Lowenstein should have stood up to him more, I really do... but I also think he has a point. Moreover, there's a difference between "ignoring a problem" or "sticking your head in the sand" as a method to deal with a bully and egging the bully on with taunts, slurs and name-calling.

We gamers have as much to do both with Thompson's rise and with his fall as anything or anyone else.

As much as I hated what he had to say, the reality is that this is a man. He's just a man... and now his life-long career is over. I don't think that's anything to celebrate, especially given my own belief that we, as a community, may have had a hand in that.

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Well I have to disagree with you. We didn't help the situation, however he was this bad in issues against Janet Reno and against Live 2 Crew. Proclaiming lies and his usual rhetoric bs. Jack when tackling against gamers, he unexpectedly found opponents that are more logical than him (not saying much really).

Thompson had his rise from Live 2 Crew and taking on shock jocks. Games were the new medium and the new target. We didn't create Jack, he did it himself.

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I'm not saying he wasn't a piece of work before he entered the gaming ring, what I'm saying is that we, at least in part, helped to make him the strident blow-hole he was with our behaviour. If you go back through archives of interviews he was always bizarre, but the closer you get to 2008 the more bizarre he becomes and usually in response to whoever it is that's providing the counter-point.

You can see that in all his correspondences as he becomes more and more frantic, be they motions or simple posts on GP. That certainly had to do with his own mounting failures, but I firmly believe that it also had much to do with the way he was treated. Remember, he always considered the way we behaved to be a validation of the picture he painted of us; Sadistic, sociopathic, blood-thirsty, juvenile, etc... and in many cases those observations, when he made them, were bang on. I've seen it here, in this very place.

Ultimately, however, even if you disagree the reality is that he sunk his own boat... but we didn't help. Moreover, while you'll find no more staunch a critic than I for what Thompson had to say and what he stood for I think it's innapropriate to take joy in another man's downfall.

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Yeah, if you follow the Reno stuff, he was screwed up a long time ago, and like I said before, he needs psychological help...

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LOL. All I have to say.

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Yeah that's real cute... what kind of green are they smoking... and question two, can i have some?

Jesus Jack Jones Thompson.... is dead... (funeral udruge, followed by Celebrate :D )

Jesus Jack Jones Thompson loves you, so kill for his amusement so we can get money for the new "People's Temple of Jesus Jack Jones Thompson"

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Ah, a good chuckle to start my day!

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I was truly worried for a moment that someone actually wanted to support JT.

Glad to see it's a "Stephen Colbert" styled joke.

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Hahaha...  Well, that is like Tina Fey voting republican, it is only in the best interest of her career, haha.  All of the Palin stuff she could do over the next 4 years would be funny.

I would love to see the look in Jack's face though if that did happen...

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Re: Crispy Gamer Roasts GP Over Thompson Coverage

 Actually, i think Tina Fey has said she hopes the republicans loose just so she can STOP playing Palin =p

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That reminded me of a really old interview with Jon Stewart, I think I read about it in rolling stone, where Jon was asked towards the end of Clinton's second term how the daily show would handle Clinton no longer being preisdent. His response was something along the lines of 'If I never have to do another semen stain or Monica Lewinsky joke that would be fine with me'. Oh and nowadays he was asked if he could find ways to make fun of Barak if he became president his response was 'are you kidding his Dad's a goat herder'. Comedians will always find a way to make fun of society.

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Isn't that the tagline of Faux news?

 
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IronPatriotBut hey, you're welcome.05/29/2015 - 5:23am
Andrew EisenEZK did say he didn't find any info on the appeals process. And if all he did was look at the ratings process part of the ESRB's website, he wouldn't have. That's where I would have looked too. But hey, thanks for being thorough and finding the info.05/29/2015 - 5:01am
Andrew EisenDude, again. I am NOT saying there is no appeals process. THERE OBVIOUSLY IS. All I am saying is that the appeals process is not described in the ratings process part of the ESRB's website.05/29/2015 - 4:59am
IronPatriotI googled appeal esrb.org and it is the first and third hits. Second is esrb talking about appeals for web publishers. Gamefaqs is fourth.05/29/2015 - 4:01am
IronPatriotZachary said he did not find any information about a formal appeals process. I did a simple search and found two places on the esrb site with the info. Just sayin.05/29/2015 - 3:57am
IronPatriotOn Google I get "1 Written Testimony of Patricia E. Vance President ... - ESRB" http://www.esrb.org/about/news/downloads/pvtestimony_6_14_06.pdf05/29/2015 - 3:55am
Andrew EisenNow, that post on GameFAQs was made four years ago. It appears the ESRB has since moved the appeals process stuff behind the publisher login on its website.05/29/2015 - 3:32am
Andrew EisenOh, third link on the Google search. Okay. That leads to a GameFAQs message board which quotes a section of the ESRB website that includes a description of the appeals process. But when you follow the link, that quote doesn't exist.05/29/2015 - 3:30am
Andrew EisenThird link down from what? Look, I'm not arguing the existance of an appeals process. There obviously is one. I was merely noting that it's odd that it isn't described on the website's ratings process section but it is on the mobile site.05/29/2015 - 3:25am
IronPatriotOK, so use the third link down, which describes the appeals process and is not on the mobile site"Publishers also have the ability to appeal an ESRB rating assignment to an Appeals Board, which is made up of publishers, retailers and other professionals."05/29/2015 - 2:47am
Andrew EisenRight, which links to the ESRB's mobile site. On the website (again, unless I'm overlooking it) the appeals process is locked behind the publisher login.05/29/2015 - 2:37am
IronPatriotHuh? Google "appeals esrb". It is the first link. Click it. No login requested.05/29/2015 - 2:31am
Andrew EisenInteresting. It's on the mobile site but unless I'm overlooking it, I don't see it under the Ratings Process on the web site. It is under the publishers section but you can't access it without a login.05/29/2015 - 2:13am
IronPatriot"Publishers also have the ability to appeal an ESRB rating assignment to an Appeals Board made up of publishers, retailers and other professionals. " Esrb05/29/2015 - 2:01am
IronPatriotZachary, did you look on the esrb site? The esrb appeals process pops up when you search "esrb appeals" http://m.esrb.org/faq_09.php05/29/2015 - 2:00am
Andrew EisenThe humor reminds me a lot of Axe Cop.05/29/2015 - 1:37am
WymorenceOh sweet god, Kung Fury is freaking awesome...05/28/2015 - 10:03pm
E. Zachary KnightWonder, I know you can revise content and resubmit it, but I can't findany information about a formal appeals process.05/28/2015 - 7:27pm
Wonderkarpever wonder if there's an appeals process for AO?05/28/2015 - 6:55pm
Matthew WilsonDanny and Andy play the first couple of levels of the upcoming Hatred http://www.gamespot.com/videos/hatred-gamespot-plays/2300-6425016/ imho it does not look like it should be AO.05/28/2015 - 5:57pm
 

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