Teens Watch, Discuss McCain-Obama Debate in Second Life

October 8, 2008 -

A group of 28 teens gathered in Second Life for last night's presidential debate, reports The Click Heard Round the World:

The teens were fairly bored during the economy and health care portion of the debate.  But they perked right up once the candidates starting talking foreign policy.  Several of them were interested in Darfur and human rights.  A couple were concerned about college tuition costs. 

 

All in all, I thought this was an effective way of getting teenagers to be more engaged with the political process. I think they felt more comfortable being in a setting with a bunch of their peers rather than in a roomful of adults.  Several of them seemed genuinely concerned about certain issues and got to express that to each other over the text chat.  And they got to have fun, often at the expense of one of the candidates, but that's to be expected.

Holymeatballs has expanded coverage, including some of the students' reactions to the debate as expressed via SL's chat feature.

Surprisingly, only one of the teens seemed to take notice of McCain's bizarre reference to Obama as "That one."

UPDATE: A World of Warcraft player mentions that the debate was also a hot topic in the general chat on the Silvermoon server.


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Re: Teens Watch, Discuss McCain-Obama Debate in Second Life

Yeah, it was the worst debate out of the 3 that have aired so far. We havn't gotten anything like the ownage of the JFK/Nixon and Reagan/Mondale debates.

Re: Teens Watch, Discuss McCain-Obama Debate in Second Life

I disagree, I'd say it was the best of the debates thus far. None of them have been particularly great, but this one had some actual arguing back and forth, as well as some questions that forced the two to stop, leaving their talking points for a moment, and think on their feet to answer the question.

-Gray17

Re: Teens Watch, Discuss McCain-Obama Debate in Second Life

Alright, I just read the transcript from the discussion (partial transcript) and it seems like its just a bunch of idiots sucking Obama's dick because he stands for 'change'.  
Also, how is 'what are you going to do to inspire youth' a good question?  That's not the president's job, its the teachers and parents and family's job.

Re: Teens Watch, Discuss McCain-Obama Debate in Second Life

  Searching through the transcript it doesn't even seem like the word "youth" was even mentioned throughout the debate... and the word "inspire" was used only once and by Obama, not Brokaw... and obama was not even talking about inspire youth...

Re: Teens Watch, Discuss McCain-Obama Debate in Second Life

Did you actually watch the debate? Because they weren't asked any questions about inspiring youth that I saw, or can find reference to in the transcripts.

-Gray17

Re: Teens Watch, Discuss McCain-Obama Debate in Second Life

So wait a second: People are arguing that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are bad and that we shouldn't have gone without the UN, but these same people (mostly college kids) seem to think that helping Darfur is a good idea?  Because that's not likely to fail for the exact same reason that Iraq is having trouble, right?

Re: Teens Watch, Discuss McCain-Obama Debate in Second Life

Essentially, yes. I think that Afghanistan was more or less justified, you shot yourselves in the foot with Iraq and Darfur is being run by the Chinese Arms Dealers and should stay like that.

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Re: Teens Watch, Discuss McCain-Obama Debate in Second Life

1: Afganistan was a response to a viscious terrorist attack, and recieved a thumbs up from virtually every major nation. Pulling out before Al-quaida and the taliban are utterly crushed is an invitation to disaster that no sane indivdual could ignore. In fact, I find it shameful that many canadians aren't more willing to support the war there (as well as post war clean up).

2. Iraq was started based on a slugh of half assed lies, has hosted collosal fuck ups, drained hundreads of billions of dollars, killed tens of thousands, further destabilized the region, become a spawning ground for terrorists, devestated forign relations AND has no end in sight. Gee, Why the hell would anyone be against it?

3. Darfur is a god damm human rights disaster. If it was at all feasible, I'd be on my goverment (canadian) to send troops out to bring the militias under control (since the Sudanese goverment refuses to). Unfortunatley, Canada doesn't have the capacity to fight multiple wars at once.

Re: Teens Watch, Discuss McCain-Obama Debate in Second Life

You don't want to engage teens in the political process.

 

Because when they realise we're spending 4 billion dollars a day of their money and we don't even care, these little school shootings are going to look like a church picnic.

Just leave it up to chance.

Re: Teens Watch, Discuss McCain-Obama Debate in Second Life

Interesting, most teens don't work, and the ones who do get their taxes back (or at least most of them) at the end of the year, so how are 'we' spending their money?  We're spending 50% of MY money, and 5 dollars of a teen's money.  Oh God, don't take five bucks from a teen, God knows they need it for half a movie!

Re: Teens Watch, Discuss McCain-Obama Debate in Second Life

So, are you just completely ignorant?

 

The debt is 9 trillion, and we just spent 700 billion MORE debt, making it closer to 10.

 

Not long from now, Teenagers (who will have aged considerably) are going to have to pay for massive surpluses for decades to pay for YOUR massive defecits. We're spending 3 billion dollars a DAY of their money, so you can get communist cheques from your nice government.

Just leave it up to chance.

Re: Teens Watch, Discuss McCain-Obama Debate in Second Life

I especially enjoyed how Tom Brokaw selected the questions he wanted answered and then handed them back to the audience, instead of allowing the audience to ask questions of the candidates.  Especially because he picked questions worded to give Obama the advantage.  Maybe Bill O'Reilly should host the next one, to even it out a bit.

Honestly, these debates are starting to suck more and more each fucking time.

Re: Teens Watch, Discuss McCain-Obama Debate in Second Life

Huh, you're the first person I've seen who thought Brokaw was biased towards Obama.  Most of the reaction I've garnered felt that his moderation style was more biased towards McCain.

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Re: Teens Watch, Discuss McCain-Obama Debate in Second Life

He picked questions worded towards Obama and questions about things that Obama can bullshit through with more ease than McCain.

Re: Teens Watch, Discuss McCain-Obama Debate in Second Life

Again, which questions are you referring to? I mean questions that were actually asked during the debate, such as

"How can we trust either of you with our money when both parties got -- got us into this global economic crisis?"

or

"Ronald Reagan famously said that the Soviet Union was the evil empire. Do you think that Russia under Vladimir Putin is an evil empire?"

-Gray17

Re: Teens Watch, Discuss McCain-Obama Debate in Second Life

Nah, if you do that, it's too uneven to the, uh...which ones is consevatives again? Right or left? I always forgot.

I could see it with O'Reilly now.

"This is to canidate Obama, who's liberalism will destroy America and rape our morals. You have criticized our wonderous president, George W. Bush. DO YOU HATE AMERICA!? ARE YOU AN EVIL LIBERAL BASTARD!? *then goes on ranting on how iPods will destroy us all*

Re: Teens Watch, Discuss McCain-Obama Debate in Second Life

LOL ipods, nice.

Re: Teens Watch, Discuss McCain-Obama Debate in Second Life

Please.  O'Reilly would slam him for working with and accepting money from Bill Ayers.

Re: Teens Watch, Discuss McCain-Obama Debate in Second Life

Bill O'Reilly's interview with Obama was possibly the only time we'll ever see someone question him so relentlessly on the subjects his detractors are obsessed with. As well as the only time we'll see how well he handles it.

But once was enough. The only reason for a follow-up would be if there were evidence of a cover-up.

Even Bill had to admit Obama's answers were straight-forward and confident.

Re: Teens Watch, Discuss McCain-Obama Debate in Second Life

Even more so: Bill was forced to admit that Obama wasn't just blowing smoke: he really belived in what he was preaching.

Re: Teens Watch, Discuss McCain-Obama Debate in Second Life

It doesn't help that Tom Brokaw Wasn't allowing either candidate tiem to properly articulate a response to the questions at hand; 1 minute is simply not enough.

As to the debates being "slanted", perhaps obama is simply better at this format of discussion then john mcain.

Re: Teens Watch, Discuss McCain-Obama Debate in Second Life

As to the debates being "slanted", perhaps obama is simply better at this format of discussion then john mcain.

That's an interesting assumption, since McCain personally prefers the town hall debating format.

Re: Teens Watch, Discuss McCain-Obama Debate in Second Life

I was talkling about Debating in general.

Re: Teens Watch, Discuss McCain-Obama Debate in Second Life

Or perhaps when Brokaw was selecting questions, he made sure to pick ones that were worded in ways that showed an Obama slant. 

Re: Teens Watch, Discuss McCain-Obama Debate in Second Life

So what questions exactly do you think where slanted toward Obama? As I don't recall any of them being particularly slanted towards either candidate.

-Gray17

Re: Teens Watch, Discuss McCain-Obama Debate in Second Life

The questions Brokaw chose were leaning towards Obama's 'expertise', what with questions like 'How would you inspire today's youth?' (PROTIP: Democrats are always popular among the young and naive, and Obama is especially so because young people today are too lazy to do the research to see how full of shit he is).

Re: Teens Watch, Discuss McCain-Obama Debate in Second Life

Kindly point to where in the debate he asked "How would you inspire today's youth?" as I watched the debate and I'd swear that question wasn't asked. A search of CNN's transcript supports my memory.

-Gray17

Re: Teens Watch, Discuss McCain-Obama Debate in Second Life

I vote based on what they want to deliver, and only that alone. Politicans practically act like saleman in their campaigns and you can NEVER guarantee if they will follow through. If I wanted to buy a sedan, I would go with someone who wants to sell a sedan to me. I wouldn't care how many satisfied customers a salesman has if he mostly wants to sell trucks to people.

Re: Teens Watch, Discuss McCain-Obama Debate in Second Life

You've never heard of Occams razor have you?

Re: Teens Watch, Discuss McCain-Obama Debate in Second Life

Yes, I know of Occam's razor.

My info comes from a friend who was told to read someone else's question and flat out refused.

Re: Teens Watch, Discuss McCain-Obama Debate in Second Life

Sounds kind of like my buddy who had the opprtunity to pound jennifer anniston and brittney spears in a wild threesome but refused.

TLDR: You sound like a partisan hack.

Re: Teens Watch, Discuss McCain-Obama Debate in Second Life

Yes all debates suck. The biggest annoyance that I have with them is that they ignore third party candidates no matter how many states have the mon the ballot. Bob Barr is on the ballot in over 40 states, yet everyone ignores him.

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Re: Teens Watch, Discuss McCain-Obama Debate in Second Life

For a town hall-style debate, I was disappointed at many of the questions asked. No questions that really dig under your skin, like views on abortion, the kind of people you'd have on your Cabinet, and what kind of qualities make for a good president.

Re: Teens Watch, Discuss McCain-Obama Debate in Second Life

Probably a function of time contraints, and the fact that the economy is in the middle of a spectacular, firey crash. Given the circumstances, when time is contrained, questions like "Are you pro or anti-abortion?" suddenly become much less important.

Really these debates ought to be doubled in length to allow enough time for discussion. As it stands there's hardly enough time to ask them the questions that can be answered with talking points. Questions that make them stop and think on their feet get more or less lost.

-Gray17

Re: Teens Watch, Discuss McCain-Obama Debate in Second Life

I didn't watch any of the debates because as funny as watching people talk for hours without actually saying anything and contradicting themselves every other sentence is, I fear that by the end I'd be felating a gun barrel.

Re: Teens Watch, Discuss McCain-Obama Debate in Second Life

You missed a couple of priceless expressions from when the question was "Is Russia under Putin an evil empire?"

-Gray17

Re: Teens Watch, Discuss McCain-Obama Debate in Second Life

i dont get this. why watch the debate in a laggy, very poor graphics environment? if you want to discuss the debate while its happening, there are forums for this sort of thing. in fact, i took part in several on differnet sites, while watching the debate on cnn with the cnn page open for the running tallies (i dont get hd).

also, the kids out to be more interested in economics and health care, what the next president does will directly affect their ability to get healthcare and go to college.

 

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Re: Teens Watch, Discuss McCain-Obama Debate in Second Life

Its going to do more than affect the availability of healthcare, Its going to affect the quality and cost of it.

Re: Teens Watch, Discuss McCain-Obama Debate in Second Life

Why does McCain keep calling Obama "That One"?

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Re: Teens Watch, Discuss McCain-Obama Debate in Second Life

It was his response to Obama calling him "John".

However, I only recall him using the phrase "that one", once.

Re: Teens Watch, Discuss McCain-Obama Debate in Second Life

He only said it once that I know of at that debate.

 
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