Tivo Alert! Game Addiction Today on Dr. Phil

October 20, 2008 -

We've mentioned in recent weeks that Dr. Phil was planning to air a show focused on game addiction, and today is the day.

From the Dr. Phil website:

Computer games are supposed to be fun, but when a hobby turns into an obsession, virtual fantasy worlds can ruin lives and wreck marriages...

It looks as though Dr. Phil's guests will include Liz Woolley, whose son Sean killed himself while playing Everquest. Liz has been an occasional visitor to GamePolitics over the years.

We're expecting that Wendy Kays, wife of SOCOM lead designer Graham Kays may be on the show as well. Finally, Brad from ExGamer.net, another GP visitor, will be a guest.

GP: Thanks to GamePolitics reader Gamer137 for the reminder!


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Re: Tivo Alert! Game Addiction Today on Dr. Phil

Jack, you fail.

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I AM DOOMED TO HAUNT JACK THOMPSON'S DREAMS UNTIL HIS CRUSADE AGAINST VIDEO GAMES ENDS.



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I AM DOOMED TO HAUNT JACK THOMPSON'S DREAMS UNTIL HIS CRUSADE AGAINST VIDEO GAMES ENDS.

Re: Tivo Alert! Game Addiction Today on Dr. Phil

If I was Dr Phil. I would just cut the crap and start talking about Videogames being for everyone, for kids, teenagers AND adults.

 

Also I would be talking about that while Videogames may be addictive, they also have got Save Spaces and also the game sometimes has got a pause button.

 

Maybe hard to do that on online games but no matter how long you play a game, it is important to always stay in touch with your friends and family too.

 

I have not seen the episode but if I was Dr Phil then I would be saying those things.

 

Also when it comes to blaming videogames for the death of a son or daughter, blaming Videogames will never bring them back and it is a really sad but also a deeply negative way to go though the grieving process.

 

The most important thing is NOT to blame Videogames, but to take some time to try and learn about how they were feeling and try to think about what was making them sad in the first place without blaming the Game they loved.

 

If you blame Videogames, the further and further away you get from solving the really important problems in society.

 

That is just my view though, if you don't like it tough, but that is just my view.

 

TBoneTony

Re: Tivo Alert! Game Addiction Today on Dr. Phil

Phil's moustache looks like a caterpillar.

What? Just saying.

Oh, and what everyone else said about JT. I'm too tired to write a witty remark.

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Yeah its a sad, facts and studies do show that the majority of gamers are young adults. My mom used to say that games where for kids, till the mid 90s popped up and basicly became targeted for the teenagers to young adults (thinking since the majority of hardcore gamers grow up on the kid stuff) My whole entire family is gamer oriented, my moms a more casual gamer, while my brother and I are hardcore but we try to average our playtime between 2 to 3 hours a day. I'm 23 and my brothers 18. Also doesn't help much that we mostly work swing shifts from 2pm to 10 every day. ---- Rumblerumblerumber
---- Rumblerumblerumber

Re: Tivo Alert! Game Addiction Today on Dr. Phil

Dr phil's website has video clips and there is a long thread on his message board talking about it. http://www.drphil.com/shows/show/1149

 

http://www.popularculturegaming.com

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I just finished watching the episode and it is the first episode of Dr Phil I've ever seen.  How do people watch this?  It is half previews and recaps and the other half commercials!

Regardless, the show wasn't all that negative but it was sad that although Phil started off the show citing a study that the average age of gamers is in the late 20s (or early 30s? I don't remember exactly which stat he quoted) but then ever single time he said anything about videogames that wasn't directed at his adult guests Phil was telling mothers to watch look after their children!  So even though Phil states that the average gamer is an adult he then goes on to pretend as if most of them are kids. 

I was also disappointed to see the mother of the Everquest player who killed himself appear on yet another show.  She never misses an opportunity to blame Everquest for the death of her son.

http://www.popularculturegaming.com

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"I was also disappointed to see the mother of the Everquest player who killed himself appear on yet another show.  She never misses an opportunity to blame Everquest for the death of her son."

Hey,

Everyone wants to be on TV. So She's using her son's death to do just that. Milking her 15 minutes for all its worth

 - Warren Lewis

Consumer responsibility is just as important as Corporate responsibility. So, be responsible consumers.

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Well, she has to blame the game.  Otherwise, the only option left is that her son was poorly raised, and that seems to fall into the category of being her goddamn fault.

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Actually the guy was learning disabled and clinically depressed so it probably had little to do with his upbringing www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/10/17/48hours/main525965.shtml

 

http://www.popularculturegaming.com

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Ah!  We're talking about THAT one, my mistake, I thought we were talking about a much older case.

Yeah, nevermind.

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Oh, and a query Jack: if you advocate having game developers put a warning label saying "product may be addictive" on their games, then how about DVDs? Movies and television can be just as addictive as videogames, yet last I checked there was no addiction warning to be found on DVD cases, or before television programs for that matter.

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My sister watch that show. I will ask her how it went.

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Dr.Phil...

Why would anyone take advice from someone with a goddamn 70's porn mustache?

 

-Remember kids, personal responsibility is for losers! Jack Thompson is still a dick...

Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

Re: Tivo Alert! Game Addiction Today on Dr. Phil

No one's arguing that playing videogames 12 hours a day is somehow a good thing. The problem most of us have with things like this little expose of Dr. Phil's, Mr. Thompson, is that they tend to paint all those who play videogames as "addicts" who hide in their mom's basement 24/7 playing Halo, when such is not the case for the great majority of video game players. I like games, but on average I only play them maybe 3 hours a week. You see, people tend to be different from one another. You can't just make it sound as though all gamers are mindless addicts with no lives, no matter how much you'd like that to be the case.

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Just thought of something...what if a person spent 12 hours reading books?

 

-Remember kids, personal responsibility is for losers! Jack Thompson is still a dick...

Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

Re: Tivo Alert! Game Addiction Today on Dr. Phil

They would call that person an avid reader... =)

Not to be insulting to those avid readers amongst us, but that's the way society is like. Even if said person only reads say "trashy romance novels" and the like.. =/

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Oooh! You mean there are people around with the mythical "Common Sense"?

------------------------------------------------------------------------ Oooh! You mean there are people around with the mythical "Common Sense"?

Re: Tivo Alert! Game Addiction Today on Dr. Phil

Dr Fail just spent most of the time making fun of the 35 year old. And the "how old are you" comment pissed me off. And it was sttrange how the wife just lets her young son stay up late with the father. TAKE SOME DAMN RESPONSIBILITY!

Re: Tivo Alert! Game Addiction Today on Dr. Phil

Did Dr. Phil or anyone on his show stop to think that the fact that WHAT these people are addicted to is irrelevant? These people have addictive personalities, if it wasn't video games it would be porn, if it wasn't porn it would be alcohol or drugs, or gambling, prescription drugs, cocaine, prostitues...the list of addictions goes on and on. So its really stupid (although im sure great for ratings) to have a show about this topic. The video game industry has NOTHING to do with these peoples addictive personalities and its pretty pathetic of Phil to do this shit. He's just a ratings whore like almost every show on tv. in the words of Maynard James Keenan:

"All you read and Wear or see and Hear on TV Is a product Begging for your Fairly dirty Dollar. So ... Shut up and Buy...my new record. send more money"

---tool "hooker with a penis" 

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I am probably one of the few harcore gamers out there that does recognize that video games are quite addictive. No they are not addictive in the sense that you will suck a c*** for five minutes of play or anything of that nature, however, they do have a tendency to pervade your thoughts (and my own) from time to time and there are plenty of times when I personally have been really anxious for a new game or to get home and play some more of an old game I have. I literally start getting happy thinking about it.

The reason is this: Instant rewards.

Your brain emits a hormone that causes a very, very slight sense of euphoria when you accomplish a goal (in real life or in gaming). It is that natural sense of, well, awesome you feel when something went just right. You could call it a sense of satisfaction. Well, accomplishing a goal in a video game triggers this feeling. You get it, otherwise you wouldn't enjoy playing the things. This is not a problem for most people, it is like hearing jokes or watching a movie. They get their enjoyment and move on and if they don't play again for many days, weeks, months, or year (maybe forever) they are fine. Some people, a small percentage, don't get this sensation from other sources, or when they do it is really rare, and they feel compelled to stay with the item that brings them such a feeling.

Is addiction a problem? For those that can be affected by it, yes it is. I had a co-worker lose his job, his wife, and most of his belongings because of his utter refusal to stop playing World of Warcraft for example, but that is a rare thing. He wouldn't spend time with his family, he used all of his leave from a decent job, and stopped paying his bills (except for the electricity, internet, and online fees) to just play more of the game and would become irrate and downright aggressive to anyone that tried to stop him from playing.  He is better now, but it did make me realize that video game addiction does exist, but it truly is a very, VERY rare thing.

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I don't think any of us are actually contending that video game addiction doesn't exist, it quite clearly can be quite addictive to certain individuals.  We all have the problem about the fact that every single gamer is made out to be a potential addict when in actuality it's only an incredibly minor percentage of gamers that show potentially addictive behaviour.

 

IMA FIRIN MAH LASER!!!

IMA FIRIN MAH LASER!!!

Re: Tivo Alert! Game Addiction Today on Dr. Phil

I think the big language thing that needs to be addresses is, is this 'video game addiciton' or 'hobby addiciton', i.e. does it deserve it's own term or is it simply yet another pleasent passtime that someone who has an internal issue can become obsessed with and go unhealthy?

Far too often the object of obession gets the blame rather then the structure of the peron's life (or their internal landscape, depending on the root cause) that caused them to seek out an alternative in the first place.

Re: Tivo Alert! Game Addiction Today on Dr. Phil

 Oh God no! Not the Phil! I thought this guy was kicked off the air by now. Any who, I smell one freshly baked episode of Dr.Biast.

Re: Tivo Alert! Game Addiction Today on Dr. Phil

Go to hell Dr. **** Phil.

Re: Tivo Alert! Game Addiction Today on Dr. Phil

I was horribly addicted to Diablo 2 for almost two years.

Good times, good times...

-- teh moominz --

Re: Tivo Alert! Game Addiction Today on Dr. Phil

Phil sold his soul long ago.  He's just a crack pot now.

Re: Tivo Alert! Game Addiction Today on Dr. Phil

Crackpot is one word, like gameridiot.

ATTENTION, GAMER IDIOTS! HUGE STORY ABOUT TO BREAK REGARDING SAINTS ROW 2, COURTESY OF JACK THOMPSON, ATTORNEY. YOU’RE WELCOME, KIDS!

Re: Tivo Alert! Game Addiction Today on Dr. Phil

Objection!  Opposing counsel is a moron.

Re: Tivo Alert! Game Addiction Today on Dr. Phil

How about senile-unemployed-dork?

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OH FUCKING SNAP.

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oh my, you actually think your witty because you can make a grammar error.

here's one too. jackthompsonsoontobedisbarred

Re: Tivo Alert! Game Addiction Today on Dr. Phil

'gameridiot' isnt a word. Link me to an official definition.

'disbarred' however.. is a word.

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From someone who can't spell to save his life, your comment has no meaning

Sortableturnip's Law: As an online discussion of video game violence grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Jack Thompson approaches 1

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Well JT can't spell to save his career.  He's already proven that.

"Volume helps to get a point across but sharp teeth are better."

"Volume helps to get a point across but sharp teeth are better."

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Actually Jack, "gameridiot" is *ahem* GAMER IDIOT. Seeeeee two words. Maybe be able to hyphenate it though. "gamer-idiot" Hmmm yeah you could do that as well. Maybe now that you are out of a job...going back to school is a good option! :)

Edit: BAH! EZK beat me to it! Curses!

Re: Tivo Alert! Game Addiction Today on Dr. Phil

Went to Merriam Webster and I'm sorry, but "gameridiot" is not a word. So much for your wittiness.

E. Zachary Knight
Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA
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Re: Tivo Alert! Game Addiction Today on Dr. Phil

Do you expect Jack to start listening to factual evidence this late in his now doomed career?  If Jack is going to ignore the official investigation on the Virginia Tech shooting do you honestly think he cares what Merriam Webster has to say?

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

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Yeah, might have to make that my new sig for here... XD

-- "Jack and listen are two words that don't go together...just like Jack and sanity, Jack and truth, Jack and proof, Jack and win..." -- sortableturnip | http://www.orangeloungeradio.com/

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Mind if I qoute that on facebook EZK?

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sure.

E. Zachary Knight
Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA
MySpace Page: http://www.myspace.com/okceca
Facebook Page: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1325674091

Re: Tivo Alert! Game Addiction Today on Dr. Phil

.......really, sir?

....Really?

Good luck trying to get Websters to accept that one.

Take some of your own advice: Grow up, and get a life.

Re: Tivo Alert! Game Addiction Today on Dr. Phil

Hmmm how about DISBARRED :)

 

better one

How about FAILURE!?

 

Re: better one

How about not killing what was a very snappy comeback by cloning it to death?

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I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

-------------------------------------------------- I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

Re: Tivo Alert! Game Addiction Today on Dr. Phil

careful Jack, you just insulted your own son again

岩「…Ace beats Jack」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

Re: Tivo Alert! Game Addiction Today on Dr. Phil

How about disbarredlawyer?

Re: Tivo Alert! Game Addiction Today on Dr. Phil

Owned.

Re: Tivo Alert! Game Addiction Today on Dr. Phil

Phuck Phil

Re: Tivo Alert! Game Addiction Today on Dr. Phil

This guy's a hack.  I can't stand him.  This theories and ideas are the usual crap one would find in the "self-help" section of the bookstore.  I've got several friends who went to school for psychology, one of them is actually working on her PHD for depth psychologh, and they all loathe this man.

I won't be watching the show, but I'll be amused to hear just how far down the crapper they go.

 

Tea and cake or death! Tea and cake or death! Little Red Cook-book! Little Red Cook-book!

Tea and cake or death! Tea and cake or death! Little Red Cook-book! Little Red Cook-book!

Re: Tivo Alert! Game Addiction Today on Dr. Phil

Dr. Phil can suck my dick.

Re: Tivo Alert! Game Addiction Today on Dr. Phil

Scientific rationale at it's best :P hehe

I'd say the same thing, but have you actually thought about the mental image? Dr. Phil, on his knees... regretting it yet? I am!

Anyone with half a brain-cell knows that Dr.Phil is a complete joke. Which, i must admit, is unfortuante for anyone who goes on his show, as they are really wasting their time and genuine problems/issues/topics on such a blatent fraudster....

 

 
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