As we mentioned, Dr. Phil aired a segment on game addiction yesterday. Some of the guests on the show have made their impressions available.
Wendy Kays, author of Game Widow, writes on her blog:
Now that the Dr. Phil Show has aired, I’m legally free to blog about the experience... The contracts I signed before going on the show made it very clear that Dr. Phil is not a licensed mental health or counseling professional anywhere... Those contracts also made it clear that if Dr. Phil messed me up worse than I already am, or I’m pissed about how he twisted my words or manipulated/used me, I can’t sue...
But I think the most important thing to point out... is the way pre-existing mental health and substance abuse issues for abusing gamers [were] purposely glossed over, if not completely omitted...
Do I think Dr. Phil is evil, and out to take down the game industry or villanize players? No. I think he’s a showman. I think he did the quintessential show on “game addiction” because his viewers are concerned about game abuse.
In a frank podcast at ExGamer.net, Brad talks about his suicide attempt, which was revealed on the Dr. Phil episode. Finally, Canada.com offers Dr. Phil's comments at the end of the program:
I'm not saying that computer gamers are bad and I play games on the computer myself sometimes. But I'm saying like everything else it has to be something you do with balance and moderation.
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didnt see it but wanted to just cant remember what i was doing at the time..either way dr phil is a moron and i figured it owuld of been biast anyways..oh well thats what we have to put up with this damn anti game crap which got more and more dumb by the day.....
game on
This was rather disappointing; I read GP.com articles so that I can get mad at people and now you give me this garbage.
"But I'm saying like everything else it has to be something you do with balance and moderation."
Bah! Now I don't have anything to get angry about.
"Those contracts also made it clear that if Dr. Phil messed me up worse than I already am, or I’m pissed about how he twisted my words or manipulated/used me, I can’t sue..."
Wait... you mean he's not only presenting himself, to the general public, as a Psychologist but he's protecting himself from being sued for "malpractice"? Jesus Christ, I loathe him even more than I did before!
This is coming from a hazy memory but if I recall, he came out a couple years back saying that he wasn't an licensed (or even a real) psychologist. I don't remember how he managed to keep the "Dr." in front of his name, but it protected him from any lawsuits since people knew he wasn't real and they went to him anyway.
As someone who almost majored in psychology, even a high school psychology student could tell you he doesn't know what he is doing at all. He is just putting on a show, and he really should be taken off the air IMO. Many people still think he is licenced, or else why would they even watch his show. He sure as hell doesn't help anyone.
dr phil is as much as a worthless fraud as jack thompson is
100% agreed
I thought the show was very good and accurate.
There are many people out there today, who are in trouble because of excessive gaming. The way to start getting help for these people is to admit there is a problem.
The show is not a debate. The show was not created to put down games. This show is not about people who can game socially and think they have no problems in their lives. It is to help those who have went beyond social gaming and need help. I do not understand why people think it is okay for people with other addictions to be able to get help, but that people who are addicted to games can be rediculed, shamed and made fun of!
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his doctors liscense was suspended i thought he has no more business calling himself a doctor than jack thompson does calling himself a lawyer
I agree with your opinion for the main part, though I did not see the show, so I cannot judge it, and I also agree that anything when not done in moderation is a dangerous thing to do.
Like many of these sorts of addictions, it's not the fault of the thing that the person is being addicted to, not directly, but that does not mean that the addiction does not exist, I've seen marraiges destroyed by Fishing, of all things, and you sadly suffered a far greater loss, in part because people viewed video games as 'toys', and did not take the idea of addiction seriously, simply because they could not imagine themselves getting addicted, and did not look beyond their own sphere of reference.
So I hold that addiction to Video Games should be taken seriously, particuarly MMO's, not to point fingers at the media involved, but to help those who cannot help themselves.
It is because most people who are addicted to games or use it as an excuse for actions like killing people, always have had prior problems before they started playing the video game(s) in question that are said to be the cause, from every case I have seen. May it be extreme depression, uncontrollable anger problems or severe psychological issues (which includes torturing animals, something that is common in these cases), these kids and adults have always had prior records of problems.
Packed with that, violent crimes in the US are down by a boat load ever since the first GTA came out, there are no more people classified with psychological problems than before other than cases where the terms of those psychological problems have been broadened to include more people, when in my opinion they should have created other levels or terms to keep more accurate records, and addiction is even down overall from most of the studies I have seen.
Has there been a new addiction created? Yes, definitely. Was it purposely created? Hell no, they just wanted to make a good game, just like how a steak house wants to make great steak, but if a person eats too much of it, you typically dont see it as a problem. How many of the people who have became addicted to video games have had other addiction or other psychological problems, included diagnosed anti-social disorders? Most of them to be honest.
Who do I honestly fully blame? The parents, because they are the ones that are, or at least should be, parenting their kids. You wouldn't let your child watch an R rated movie, then dont let them play an M rated game. Even at that, I would say many R rated movies are not as bad as M rated games other than the obvious ones like Saw, and other more adult R rated movies... I would say The Matrix is more child friendly than any M rated games I have seen or played, while any Saw movies have been far less child friendly than any M rated games I have seen or played. If I was a parent that never plays video games like Gears of War, Halo, or just more than 2 M rated console games a year and at least 100 hours of gaming a year, I would treat any M rated game like it is Saw V.
But if you are a parent that typically puts no rules on your kids at all, I would ask you to research this much more, watch Saw V and think about what a child 2 years younger than your child is from a home schooled family would react to the movie, because even if your child is used to it, and has been raised to handle that, you need to realize that the affect it has on that home schooled child is still happening to your child in at least some minor degree if not more, and you should really talk to your child about what they play and watch, and be an active role in their lives instead of playing a passive role.
On top of that, all parents need to play an active role in their child or teen's life, and realize your child is like any other child, and could have psychological problems. So if there is a hint of any issue at all, you should at least have them checked up on if nothing else by having them go to a psychologist, and do not accept drugs as a solution to even depression, because that is not a long term solution, even though many doctors use it as one. It is better to be safe than sorry, and if you thought your child needed stitches, you would take them to the doctor. So why not if their emotional or psychological self needs stitches?
Sometimes a video game is just a video game.
Just had to throw that drphilism in there. :)
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In the previous post about Dr Phil I made a comment, and JT took personal offense to things i hadn't even imagined saying... i'm hesitant to offer my opinion this time... but not that hesitant.
I wasn't able to watch this episode, but i'm still trying to get a copy. I did manage to catch a very brief portion of it though, and it did seem that he was at least staying rather calm, and not grandstanding or laying blame, which is nice.
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Ah, so it was the gays all along! The video game industry is nothing but a pawn of the great homosexual agenda!
I've never seen Kotaku call JT Gay.... I've done it MANY MANY times myself, but i've never seen Kotaku do it.
OK people, you've said his name three times. Now he's going to show up here. Thanks a lot.
However, that is the effect, be it intentional or an unintended sideffect of "showmanship", that bad, tabloid TV "journalism", the sort of which you get from Dr. Phil and Fox news, etc has.
The image that people will take away from this episode of Dr. Phil, is the one that, by Kays' own admission, Dr. Phil was trying to portray- "any normal, healthy person could suddenly flip out and abuse games to the point that they lost everything" it's people that believe this that let politicians get away with pitching ludicrous, first-amendment defying bills under the "FOR TEH CHILDRENESES" banner, that ambulance chasers like Thompson can gain support of recently-bereaved parents and news network airtime, and most importantly, takes the focus off greater issues that need the help and attention more, and will be much more beneficial to solve.
I know it's become trendy to auto-criticise gamers' response to anti-game pieces in the mainstream media, throwing around terms like "victim mentality", certainly since the Mass Effect thing- but while you should not put things down to malice that can be explained by stupidity, you should not ignore the repercussions of such actions.
Mybe Dr. Phil's intentions were good when he chose to do an episode about game addiction- let's not pretend that such a thing doesn't exist, even if it is an issue that's generally massively overblown- but that doesn't change the programme, or excuse his glossing over of various, major facts in the name of "showmanship".
Not a pop at Phil or Wendy, just a general whinge.
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In the end, both Dr(?) Phil and He Who Must Not Be Named (and I don't mean Voldemort) are attention whore's. If they think it will get them publicity, they will do it.
Insanity has its toll. Please have exact change.
I wonder what Dr. Phil would sound like if he was an avid gamer.
"Just because you put a powerball infront of a pacman don't mean those ghosts will run, you hear what I'm saying? Nobody wants to feel like the Luigi of a relationship but sometimes you just have to hit start on that second controller anyways, you hear? Mmkay?"
Here's a link to phil's website on the show with some videos http://www.drphil.com/shows/show/1149
http://www.popularculturegaming.com
I haven't seen this show, minus the few commercials in which he whores for that "soul mate" dating website.
But I can surmise about 50% of how these comments are going to turn out, which is;
UP YOURS ASSHOLE!!!!!
Seriously, as an avid gamer who gets distracted from his homework, I know this err of mine is something that is my responsibility. Justified by years of low self-esteem from my early school years' bullying (I was an ugly kid, but now I am bitchin good looking *wink*). The problem with these shows is that they do not go in depth as to what might make these games "addictive" in the first place, and yes I know that every gamer is not suceptible to this, SO LAY OFF MY DAMN BACK!!!!
Sorry to get out of hand there, maybe I need a couple a sessions of COD4 to ease the stress...
Good post.
I also let myself get caught up in gaming just to survive the constant battlezone of mental and physical abuse that parents and teachers give jack all about. I probably failed to make the most of every subject in school, but in the perspective of a kid just trying to survive when noone cares to check on the daily cruelties that kids experience from other kids, getting a few % lower grades isn't really a big issue.
To anyone shouting for ban on games, or violent games:
-"Wake up and smell the coffee!"
Remove everything boys own... and they will pick up a twig, and use it as a rifle. There is nothing evil or good about it, it's just how kid's play "being adults". And we adult love nothing more than to fight, right? Be it with our fists or guns and bombs, so who are we to judge what kids do?
If you really want to make a change for kids, how about making sure that school is a safe place? I'm not talking about metal detectors, I'm talking about making sure the bullies are identified and corrected. I'm talking about making sure that no kid should have to go through getting isolated from having no friends.
Unless you first adress these issues, you have no voice in the matter of so called "violent" games. I survived because I was able to channel my stress and anxiety into a world where I could be the hero for a change. Where I could try things without risking being bullied, or ignored. Furhter more, while I killed aliens and soldiers, crashed cars and bikes, knew a mouser rifle from a javelin... I did not, even once, think of killing any of my opressors. Perhaps due to genetics, perhaps due to my parents values. Instead gaming let me meet other people, experience what it felt like "not being bullied"... and above all, had it not been for Leasure suit Larry in the land of the Lounge Lizards, I wouldn't have had the language-skills and the terribly low sense of humor I have today. ;)
What is too much gaming? As long as the kid survives, I see no harm and no faul. If parents cant handle a small issue like games... (replace with books, music, movies, video, roleplaying, etc) ... perhaps they had no place of being parents in the first place.
If you read all the way down here, kudos... and thanks for taking the time. ;)
//Yammo
Like look at it from the addiction's point of view.
School bullying is much more of a reason to stay at home because of the fear of being bullied.
Going to work and not enjoying it is more of a reason to want to escape.
sometimes we have to be brave enough to face the real world so we can move on with our lives.
But to blame Videogames for addiction really fails to solve the real problem in an individuals life.
And when the lady at the last part of the show (I forgot her name but she was the one who written the book Game Widdow) she helped allot by saying that blaming Videogames does nothing to help the problem.
I felt the show changed after she said that.
Every thing has two effect negative and positive. Depends how we take it. Wii fit
Well, the show was certainly a great adventure and I thank you for all your comments. Wendy and I have been sharing our impressions of how things went. My feeling is that Dr. Phil gave me a much better opportunity to be heard than he did Wendy. Why that is I don't know, but I'm hoping I will have another opportunity to appear on a future episode if they choose to do another gaming addiction program.
I attempted to communicate my story and the foolishness of allowing gaming to ruin a marriage and family life while not perpetuating any negative stereotypes of gamers or gaming in general. I hope that came across.
Wendy and I have both landed follow up media interviews as a result of our appearances on the Dr. Phil Show. For my part, I've got a national TV interview airing here in Canada later this week. We're looking forward to seeing it. Thanks for your interest.
I'll be updating the blog later today.
-Brad
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