Call of Duty 4 Teen Still Missing

October 22, 2008 -

As GamePolitics reported on Monday, Brandon Crisp, a 15-year-old Canadian gamer, went missing more than a week ago and has not been located.

According to this morning's Toronto Star, Brandon's parents have expressed to police that they believe his disappearance may be related to what they term an "addiction" to the popular, online-playable FPS Call of Duty 4. Brandon's father, Steve Crisp is quoted as saying:

I'm worried he has met someone online through this game. It could be organized crime or someone involved in Internet gambling. Pedophiles can stalk kids through these games.

While it is certainly true that there are documented cases of sexual predators using online video games to locate young victims, Steve Crisp's speculation regarding organized crime or Internet gambling seems a bit far-fetched. Perhaps understandable, though, given the stress which he is under. Certainly, one would expect that the local police are working with Xbox Live to examine any messages between Brandon and other players. They are probably examining his PC as well.

Also unclear is the exact CoD game that Brandon was supposedly addicted to. The Star report includes these passages:

[Brandon] left home following a dispute with his parents over the Xbox online war game, Call of Duty 4, which he spent countless hours and days playing over the last 18 months...

 

"He has a good heart," Steve said of his son, who was a straight-A student until his obsession with gaming started in 2006. The boy purchased Call of Duty with Christmas money and Steve subscribed to Xbox online at his son's urging.

Call of Duty 4, however, was not released until November 5 of last year. Previous games in the series were released for Xbox 360, so, given the stressful circumstances, it's an understandable mistatement.

Anyone with information on Brandon's whereabouts is urged to contact the Barrie Police Department. A Facebook group, Where is Brandon Crisp? has over 5,600 members so far.

GP: A reporter from the Globe and Mail asked me yesterday whether the gaming community, using online resources, might be helping in the search for Brandon. It's very possible.

What do you think, GP readers? How would you look for Brandon?

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Re: Call of Duty 4 Teen Still Missing

Making another grab at the spotlight before they take away your license, eh, Jack?

What possible "useful" information would you have for a Canadian law enforcement agency?  Does your geographical location in sunny Florida give you some mystical insight into why this young man is missing?  Did your years of pissed-away legal education also train you to be a licensed psychologist?

Investigating officers tell every nutjob and conspiracy theorist who calls up "Thank you.  You've been very helpful.  We weren't aware of that as a possible avenue of investigation" as a means of getting said fruitcakes off the phone so they can go back to doing their job.

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Furthermore John Bruce don't pretend you give a shit about young people.  As you have shown in the past you fully support sexual assault of minors.  As you have proven with both your support of Thailand ignoring their illegal sex industry problems and trying to blame their crime problem on video games.  As well as totally ignoring that Cody Posey was sexually assaulted and trying to blame that on video games as well.

Jack Thompson, whore to the illegal child porn industry.

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Someone who has stated that they have "never broken comment policy" calling the site owner a whore in his user name?  Hilarious.

Furthermore John Bruce, you have never had useful information on anything.  And you never will.  I surmise that you neglected to mention to the Sergeant of your legal troubles?  Or the fact that the government has been keeping tabs on you for your terroristic threats?

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Your account has been banned

You are not longer welcome here.

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Jack, quit your shit, or face the BanHammer. *lifts a rather heavy hammer* Who wants to wield it? Dennis? EZK?

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OH! OH! OH! ME!

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No, only Dennis and EZK can wield the mighty BanHammer. I'm just holding on to it.

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Re: Call of Duty 4 Teen Still Missing

Awwww....

Re: Call of Duty 4 Teen Still Missing

So I take it you got the chief's voice mail, thought it was him, then proceeded to tell him that Microsoft is holding him at their HQ for saying the game sucked.


You are not helpign by makign this investigation take longer. Gamers are actually doing something to see to it this kid comes home safe.

Games did their best to help with the MSGS.org incident(which you mocked), gamers were responsible for bustign the thieves wh ostole the Half Life 2 source doe. We can do amazing things when we come together.

 

We need to be prayign for the young man's safe return Thomspon, not for a body.

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The game itself is incidental, it is the potential for him having met someone on there and decided to go visit them that should be a concern.

Unlike most people, I believe you when you say you have spoken to the Sergeant.  It is VERY much like you to "hassle the police department" following any mention of a game to a tragedy.  I'm only surprised you didn't send off a letter threatening them with action if they don't make public any information they have.  It is the soon to be permanently disbarred lawyers who should be ashamed of themselves for trying to divert law enforcement efforts to try and rescue or help another victim who just happens to have been brought up in the last 20 years and therefore knows what a computer game is.

Re: Call of Duty 4 Teen Still Missing

Okay, dear, we believe you. Thousands wouldn't.

It's three days you have left now, isn't it, adjusting for timezones?

/b

Re: Call of Duty 4 Teen Still Missing

I think that's according to the old version of EZK's countdown clock; the new updated one I have says two days 10 and a half hours.

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Re: Call of Duty 4 Teen Still Missing

Unless the "useful information" was about his whereabouts or more about the circumstances around his disappearance, you are wasting the Sergeant's time.

Even if you did contact him, some little rant you'd go on about how video games helped crucify Jesus and have you disbarred won't help anyone. You don't want him found, you want to use his disapperance for your crusade.

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Right...I'm sure this is much more despicable than when you tried to sue that Omaha police chief in order to futher your own video game agenda.

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HAHAAHHAHA, I thought something was very wrong with this post, then I looked at who wrote it. Funny stuff if true. I believe you to be a horrible liar, but that is one man's opinion and not fact. Is this even really Jack Thompson though? Why would he continue to come and post on a site where he is going to get constantly ridiculed? Maybe he is a masochist and gets off on the humiliation. I can't say for sure either way of course.

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No, it's not quite that difficult.  The truth is more simplistic.  He's an attention whore.  Like a small child begging for the watchful eyes of his parents he'll do most anything to get their attention focused on him. 

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STOP.......BANHAMMER TIME!

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Could be flaim bait....but I can't resist.

You're an ass.  No one here is saying what you claim they're saying.  Actually read what we say instead of making up your own little fantasy arguments.  In case you haven't noticed, we actually want the kid found, and some show complete willingness to help.

 

Oh, and don't bother with what the Police Sergeant said to you.  He was most likely being polite, seeing how you don't have any useful information.  And even if he did think you were on the level, I wonder how much his opinion of your information would change if he was informed that you're being disbarred for, among many other things, presenting false claims, accusations, and evidence in court. 

Anything you do to try and "help" will most likely cause the case to take even longer, and with missing persons cases time is of the essence. Stay away from this one Jack.  So far there isn't an ambulance for  you to chase after yet, and hopefully it stays that way and the kid returns home safely.

Re: Call of Duty 4 Teen Still Missing

You didn't do squat you lying waste.

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Okay, this one HAS to be a fake... it just has to... if not then Mr. Thompson, seriously, you MUST have not read the comments policy. And i don't see how you couldn't, considering it's only three paragraphs long.

"Users may voice their opinions freely, so long as the content of the information posted to this site is not threatening, menacing, racist, obscene, defamatory, an invasion of someone’s privacy rights, a violation of intellectual property rights or otherwise illegal, injurious or objectionable to Entertainment Consumers Association (ECA). Solicitations, advertisements or postings of a commercial nature also are not permitted."

Took me two minutes to look that up. WHY CAN'T YOU?

*awaits confirmation from Dennis or EZK*

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Every time you lie, an angel dies

Re: Call of Duty 4 Teen Still Missing

By now we're through all the angels and hitting the cherubs.

 

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Not the chubby cherubs.

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Re: Call of Duty 4 Teen Still Missing

This made me laugh.  Not quite as mch as Thompson's increasing desperation for attention, but very nearly. ;-)

Re: Call of Duty 4 Teen Still Missing

No Jack, you probably did NOT call the authorities in charge with that. You are a proven serial liar. Show the proof, or no one will believe a word you say. Besides why would gamers harass him for helping one of their own? We would be wanting to help as much as possible. Sorry Jack, I don't buy your bull$!%t this time or any time.

Now go spread your lies and false claims on a website you are welcomed at...because you are not welcome here. Expect your user name to get banned pretty shortly.

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Because many gamers are idiots, who take everything to be an attack on gaming.

Re: Call of Duty 4 Teen Still Missing

Seconded. Despite Jackie boy's constant truth-bending, I can still believe that one to be feasible. And the ones that are should be ashamed of themselves.

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Re: Call of Duty 4 Teen Still Missing

Release his gamertag, ask people to be on the look out, thats really the only thing we could do, outside the extreamely small chance of recognizing him on the streets.

I wonder though, looking back at the original GP story, is it confirmed that he ran away? or is it possible (i hope not though) that while out, he was kidnapped, or had some other unfortunate accident, and it coenciding with the punishment just be coincedince?

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I brought up this idea in the last article on this topic.  I definitely think releasing his gamertag would be a good idea.  With so many XBOX live users around its just that many more eyes watching.  

Re: Call of Duty 4 Teen Still Missing

Find out what his handle is on XBLA or whatever the hell it's called.  If he had a major addiction to the game and might have ran away to be with someone he met through it, he's probably going to come back online to feed his CoD habit sooner or later.

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Maybe we should check where the father and mother have been lately too.

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posted this earlier, but ill repost here since it seems relevant..

 

An Additionally 'strange' point, is that according to the sources this was an original xbox with ww2 themed COD game (must be COD : finest hour) .. Why would any kid be addicted to that now? seems odd that the kid was a  hardcore 'gamer' addict if he's choosing to play that... cant be COD4.. not out in 2006 :S

is there even an online community /  microsoft servers available for COD: finest hour??? it was released in 2004! and is the only COD game on original xbox. i thought the official servers long stopped being supported for an original xbox game sucgh as that?

and even if they were still going, WHY would a peadophile be playing a 4 and a half year old game with virtually NO userbase to look for victims.. makes NO sense.

if we can confirm the servers are shut down, and we can confirm it was allegedly an original xbox and finest hour, then we KNOW somebody is lying.

 

and as you said earlier.. if he was addicted (and lets face it.. to still be playing a game released in 2004.. you must be REALLY seriously addicted) .. why the heck would he LEAVE his apparent 'addiction' and run away??

And his dad packed his bag..?

 

in my opinion there is more to this than meets the eye.

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This may be one of the first times we've agreed on something. I hate to sound cynical, but something just doesn't add up here. It's probably been mentioned before, but it is highly doubtful he left just because he couldnt play. He'd be pissed about it, sure, but if he left he REALLY wouldnt be able to play. I personally don't buy the being led to meet someone online theory, since as someone else noted, they keep records and what not through xbox. With such a high profile case if there was evidence I'm sure they'd be presented with it by now.

Statistically, the likelyhood you will be murdered (which is realistically and sadly probably the case with someone who has been gone this long) breaks down like this (in order from least to greatest) 1) Complete stranger (practically nonexistant), 2) Associate (moderately higher, but still extremely unlikely), 3) Close friend/loved one/extended family (A lot higher), 4) Immediate Family (The most likely, especially when under the age of 18).

That's why cops usually interview and or take great interest in the close family before they start looking for "strangers". There is backing for this... Am I saying that I believe the parents did it? Absolutely not. I don't have the evidence at all to back up a claim such as that. What I am saying though is something just doesnt feel right about this case... not at all.

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Yeah, you know what doesn't feel right about this case, dick(as in private eye)? That a boy is missing. It is pretty ridiculous to say, "if anyone murdered the kid it was probably his parents, BUT I'm not saying the did it". Honestly, the most likely thing if you want to talk statistics is that he is a run away. Obviously the parents know he was upset and they are feeding some line about not being able to play CoD4. I doubt that being prevented from playing even your favorite game online is going to cause you to run away unless your home life already sucked.

This is how the Ramsey case went, everyone got all suspicious about the parents, Leno making jokes, etc. and it turns out they had nothing to do with it. Before you go around implying anything you should let the investigation take its course.

Of course at the same time I doubt looking online is going to help. Someone earlier made the good point, albeit sarcasticlly, that what are you going to do? Listen to this father and go ask the organized crime spammers and 7-card stud forums and write letters to the pedobears?

 

Can't wait to see this get resolved though so we know what was really going on.

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"Honestly, the most likely thing if you want to talk statistics is that he is a run away."

Except that most runaways get caught when there is this much attention surrounding them. Usually, the cases that slip under the radar are the ones that are out for more than a week.

I'm surprised you bring up the Ramsey case. I'm not going on a hunch based on the media... My bachelors is in "Victim Studies", as in "Criminal Justice focusing on Victimology". Cases like this pop up all time, and more often than not, the parents had something to do with it. You are acting like I want this kids body to be found in a ditch or something. I'm not. I don't want that, and I'm quite sure nobody wants that. I'm just being realistic. Go ask a police officer yourself what happens if they don't find a missing person after 48 hours, let alone a full week. They'll tell you point blank that "Then we start looking for a body".

(edit for correction) The majority of family violence cases do get reported according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics (60%. Whether or not that is representative of the dark figure one can be skeptical). His motives still don't match up with a typical runaway case though. You don't run away because your parents took away your xbox, and it is not unheard of for the offender to file a missing persons report on the victim when they are either family or a spouse

 "It is pretty ridiculous to say, 'if anyone murdered the kid it was probably his parents, BUT I'm not saying the did it'."

Do some research then. You are more likely to be victimized by your family/spouse than anyone else, especially in your early infant and teenage years.

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As someone who was raised by a Detroit Police Officer, with two uncles who were also in that dept, and 3 cousins who are now PO's in metro-Detroit suburb cities, I'll confirm what you've said about how the cops would view this.

I've heard all the stories about how this kind of case usually works, from in the grittier parts of the ghetto to the more affluent suburb neighborhoods, and Zev is correct regarding who the culprits (statistically) tend to be, as well as how the cops on the case will view everyone involved.

Not sure why Sahab feels the need to be righteously indignant about what you said, but whatever the reason is, he should leave the analysis to someone who has made it an area of either personal or professional study. Thanks for your thoughts, Zev.

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Re: Call of Duty 4 Teen Still Missing

For those who aren't criminologists or sociologists or criminal justicians among us, the 'Dark Figure' of crime is the fact that about half of crimes committed will go unreported. 

As Zevorick mentioned, child runaways are often caught and will often return to the home of their own volition after a day or so.  However, after 48 hours of being missing or more, it looks more and more like a kidnapping or a murder than "Oh no, my son got mad because I took away his Xbox and that's why he's gone".

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Yeah, I probably should have explained the concepts a bit more in my post, but I tend to ramble so I left it out.

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I don't beleive that its common for children to leave their home, the source of safety for any child, without a real reason.  The XBOX may have been the straw that broke the camels back, but there is something else going on here, more likely than not.

But of course, Sahab, with your backing in Criminology and Sociology, I'd love to hear what you have to say.  Please take into account that the last sentence was sarcasm.

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Either if the parents are involved in the disappearance itself, or that the father is abusive, or a mix of the two...  there are a lot of possibilities.

-The father could be beating the mother and child, and the mother sent the child off to an old friend or something so the father would never find the child to hurt it again.

-They could had done the same thing as that hot mom from that states that killed her daughter then went out partying later.

-They could have been playing with his genetics and created an illness that killed the child for all we know... wait what do these parents do for a living?

Anyways, for all we know it could be almost anything.  The only children or friends from when I was younger who ran away always went to another family member's or friend's house.  None of them ever or would ever to to someone else's house to run away.  Even at that, with it only being 1 out of 100+ people who do this, from my experience (not saying that is the real statistics), they never go far.  If the child isn't back already and it is getting this much press it makes me think there was foul play that does not involve video games at all.

If it is not the parents, not other family, and not friends or friend's parents, then it is an extremely rare case no matter what happened, still I doubt the involvement of video games even a single bit, but we will see.

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15? The kid in that pic doesn't look older than maybe 12 plus he's only 5'3 apparently, almost certain bully bait. If he's 15 then pedos wouldn't be interested, then again he like I already said, he looks younger than 15... Hmm.... I'm curious as to what his school and home life were like beforehand.

Re: Call of Duty 4 Teen Still Missing

Check with friend's parents
Check with Microsoft to obtain all saved and deleted messages as well as voice chats
Check friend lists on computer/email and Xbox, as well as recent chats/recent games played since AIM and Xbox live both record recent games you were in and people you have had contact with.
Don't blame the games
Check all security cameras around your place of residence
I doubt he has a cell phone but if he does GPS, which any idiot would know and would have been reported
I extremely doubt all crime plots like organized crime, online gambling ring, or child molester of any sort
(I don't know if the police around there have dash cams that are always on or GPS but if they do, then they could go through those as well.)
Check with his friends on anything he may have said or if he had acted any different
Check bus security cameras for all buses that were in the area

I donno, this is the police's job, and they should have more and better ideas than that, and already went over those.

When did this kid go missing again?  I just don't think he left the town at all...  God forbid, but even if he got hit by a car and the person hid his body because they didn't want to get in trouble, there are many possiabilities, especially if he was walking to or from school.

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"How would you look for Brandon?"

Well, based on the father's assertion that it could be organized crime, Internet gambling, or pedophiles, those sounds like good starting points.  I hear organized crime is involved with spam online, so maybe it'd help to respond to spam messages asking the spammers if they've seen Brandon.  For Internet gambling, people can ask in the chatrooms for Texas Hold'Em.  Pedophiles are often listed in various online sex offender registries.  However, those registries generally don't include online contact information, so it would require sending out snail mail asking them if they've seen Brandon.

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First step, if it IS CoD related, is already being taken, as far as I'm aware, all chats are logged for XBox Live, so any rendezvous that was arranged would be stored somewhere in those chat logs, and probably recently too. Assuming the boy left home with a destination in mind, then that destination would also have been identified by the chat logs.

I'm not sure of XBox supports, or if he was using, any kind of VoIP system, as that would certainly complicate matters, but I'd certainly put a request out for anyone who was a regular gaming buddy of Brandons', or had any idea who he used to communicate with, once again, I believe there is somethig akin to a 'Buddy List' that could greatly help in this. Though for people to come forward, it would help to know Brandon's online screen name.

Really, regardless of how technical the crime, the answer is always going to be knocking on doors and asking questions.

My best hopes and wishes to the family, I hope he is found safe, well and soon.

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I was looking at the map of the area, and i would search on and around those islands to the east of his town. I'd also consider, Buffalo, Tonawanda, and Niagra.

I hope he is found. Godspeed

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Quite true. As much as this sounds like game bashing, CoD can certainly help to find the kid, if it really had anything to do with his disappearance.
 
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