No Gears of War 2 for Japan, Germany

October 22, 2008 -

Edge Online reports that upcoming Xbox 360 gore-fest Gears of War 2 will not be released in Japan or Germany.

Germany is perhaps not a surprise, given that the original 2006 GoW was banned there. Not selling the game in Japan, however, is raising some eyebrows. From the EO report:

“We can confirm that Gears of War 2 will not be available in Germany or Japan indefinitely” said the [Microsoft] spokesperson. 

 

The news may come as a shock to many observers as the original Gears of War was one of the first titles to crack the Japanese software charts during a time when the 360 console was selling at its slowest...

The reasons why the game will not be released remain unclear...  Edge has approached Microsoft’s offices in Japan for comment.


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Re: No Gears of War 2 for Japan, Germany

It's true that western games have been dooing very well lately, but banning it to shut out competition seems like too much of a conspiracy theory. With the PS3/Wii so deeply entrenched in japan and lackluster at best 360 sales, I just don't see Gears 2 as being that much of a threat. At least in Japan that is. But then I'm not expert so what the hell do I know?

As for double standards *shrugs* what else is new? Every culture has different hot buttons when it comes to content. In the US violence and drugs are fine but so much as hint at sex and it's the end of the world.

 

Re: No Gears of War 2 for Japan, Germany

I hate to break this too you bud but the 360 has been out selling the PS3 in Japan for a couple months now

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I hate to break this to you bud, but according to Kotaku it has not. The XBox360 may have the fastest growing sales, but it's still outsold by the PS3 3:1. Even if XBox sales continue to grow that rapidly, once it outsells the PS3, it'll still have to catch up to more than four times the number of total sales.

Source: http://www.kotaku.com.au/games/2008/10/lets_japanese_lifetime_console_sa...

Re: No Gears of War 2 for Japan, Germany

Man, I wish I lived in Germany or Japan.  If only my local game store wasn't going to be polluted by that lame homoerotic game.

Re: No Gears of War 2 for Japan, Germany

Maybe if the Gears of War cast were raping innocent women and children it would be on store selves in Japan. Sadly Japan and it's history is a history full of them raping other countries and women. You think American Cruise Ships had it bad with the Japanese turning Western Women caught into "comfort women" but the Chinese and the Koreans had it even worse.

 

Japan is just an evil vile country which doesn't like violence unless its against a woman in another country

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Speaking as an none Asian American man living in Japan for more than an decade and as a former manager of several night clubs in Roppongi I can assure you that the same treatment of women runs both ways. Japanese men are no different than American, European, Asian or African men. If you think otherwise you are naïve beyond reason.  

 

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Re: No Gears of War 2 for Japan, Germany

So I guess you think that US soldiers' penchant for raping Japanese girls is just the chickens coming home to roost?  I guess you think those young girls are just evil and deserve everything they get.

This notion that an entire nation can be evil is just juvenile.

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Yeah, it seems as though the game has officially been banned in Japan.

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Re: No Gears of War 2 for Japan, Germany

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Re: No Gears of War 2 for Japan, Germany

Japan also censored the boobs in God of War and the beheadings in Ninja Gaiden, if I recall correctly.

 

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Re: No Gears of War 2 for Japan, Germany

I find that odd given breast are regularly shown on normal TV here in primetime.

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Re: No Gears of War 2 for Japan, Germany

When will the ECA come out and fight the bannings?

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Re: No Gears of War 2 for Japan, Germany

My guess the games need to be really banned in the first place before the ECA would think about it. Also the ECA onlt deals in the USA and Canada markets currently. Microsft not choosing to release a game in a market is their choice and its hardly banning the game.

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Wow. Just wow! With all the explicit sex and rape games here, not to mention printed publications of the same nature as well as the Lolita variants I'm amazed something as tame as GW2 would get blocked. Then if one were to looks to the movies - after all Japan invented the splatter and mutilation flicks back in the early 70s. This is amazing to me. 

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Re: No Gears of War 2 for Japan, Germany

Japan has a boner for censorship, so everything gets a mosaic in sex games and porn and such. So, yes, there's sex games, but you can't see anything.

Re: No Gears of War 2 for Japan, Germany

Not in the majority of games I have see. Public hair is forbidden but many girls are dipicted with none (think lolita) and that seems to be OK.

Note: I'm no expert on the subject I have only seen about a dozen or so such games over the past decade and none of them were censored.

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Re: No Gears of War 2 for Japan, Germany

 For the record, Resident Evil 4's chainsaw bit was censored for the Japanese release.  Gears 2 has a lot of chainsaw bits that are a lot worse.

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Where does it say GoW2 is being banned in Japan? Its not printed here or on Edge Online. It just says it won't be released in Germany and Japan.

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Exactly.  "Won't be released."  My guess is that it got a CERO Z, and MS doesn't want to deal with it at this time.

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I guess it's more about the competition, after all, this version is supposed to have a toggle switch that turns off the blood and the swearing.

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Yeah the recent string of banning western games either rings of harsher censorship issues or to prevent competition...either way it is very unfortunate :\

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Why I´m thinking Japan don´t want any competition with their games?

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Re: No Gears of War 2 for Japan, Germany

Is it that these games are not being allowed to be released in Japan, or that the publisher/distributor is deciding not to release in Japan?

 

or is it all just an excuse to not hire a localisation team?

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I'm still surprised by Japan's recent banning of games.

I mean they have a game where you play a big-boobed chick in a thong bikini (is there any other kind in Japanese games?) that runs around chopping up zombies with a katana who spew out gallons of blood as you hack away at'm.

Yet Gears 2 gets banned.

I'm wondering if it's really the violence or if their getting anal about how western games have, recently, been doing very well.  Japan is known for trying to shut-down overseas competition.

 

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Re: No Gears of War 2 for Japan, Germany

Aree you /sure/ you want to know?  It's kinda... cheesy.

Oh, ok.  The series is called Oneechanbara.  And traditionally the Japanese have been more squeemish about violence, not sex, though seeing the two combined in Oneechanbara makes me wonder if there's a double standard.

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Re: No Gears of War 2 for Japan, Germany

It got a small release as Zombie Hunters here in the UK

Re: No Gears of War 2 for Japan, Germany

and a rumoured 360 release in Q1 2009 for the 360

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Wow, I expect this sort of thing with Germany, but JAPAN? The country that has a porn vending machine doesn't want this?

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Re: No Gears of War 2 for Japan, Germany

Forget the porn vending machine, some countries hold violence as worse than nudity and sex in media, what about their Biohazard series (aka Resident Evil).

Re: No Gears of War 2 for Japan, Germany

Strictly speaking, isn't it?

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Re: No Gears of War 2 for Japan, Germany

Don't forget the UK. We seem to have an issue with violence as well...

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