Cops Organize Big Search for Missing Gamer; Mom Clings to CoD4 Theory

October 24, 2008 -

After 11 days, 15-year-old Canadian gamer Brandon Crisp remains missing.

Rewards in the case have increased to $20,000, while a message on the Facebook group Where is Brandon Crisp? outlines a major volunteer search effort that will begin today and last through the weekend:

The public search for Brandon will take place Friday - Sunday October 24 - 26. The command centre for the search each day will be located at Burl's Creek in Oro, and teams will be organised there to search throughout Oro and Orillia.

In addition to ground-searching, volunteers may be asked to perform support-related duties for the search, canvass neighbourhoods and post flyers in high-traffic locations.

The Command centre will operate Friday Saturday and Sunday from 10 am through 5 pm. As we expect many volunteers, we ask for patience while we organise each volunteer into proper roles; we need to make sure we execute the search to the best of our ability.

Canada's cnews reports that Brandon's distraught mother, Angelika Crisp, clings to the idea that he was taken by a fellow gamer:

She insists her son was taken by some misfit teammate who may be participating in a bizarre video game that has somehow crossed over into reality.

Crisp said her son was "addicted" to the terrorist war game, Call of Duty, and might have met up with team players online.

"I think someone has him," Crisp said.

In addition to the Facebook group (which now has over 9,200 members), a website has been established at FindBrandonCrisp.com


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http://www.myspace.com/hermoinefan_420 (and boom goes the dynamite)

 

 

i'm not saying that if he was addicted that the games should be blamed...Hell i was "addicted" to wow if you even want to call it that but when some nights i needed to i turned it off early to sleep...all things in moderation is one way i see it...

 

 

but hell i still say blame the father for packing his kids bag...idk i'm not gonna go more cause i'll rant

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http://www.myspace.com/hermoinefan_420 (and boom goes the dynamite)

 

 

Ok its been a long time since i've done a duffy rant and this isnt a rant cause i am going to be respectful in this post and as dennis knows i dont say rude things just to say them but this is the way i see it and to anyone who disagrees with me i am only stating my opinion on what i have heard of the story...

 

 

 

The Parents say that they were busy with their own lives or whatever it was and didnt have the "time" to see what their son was playing or what he was doing on x box live???

 

Ok i know for a fact that the 360 has parentel controls cause my Brother had a system and one day i messed around with it and found that you can block pretty much any type of game you want too..Why didnt the parents look into this when they bought the system?? and please dont give me this "the system is complicated to work" bull..Its not difficult but i think some parents just dont feel like wasting their time with it cause i believe that even in the year 2008 almost 2009 that any and all video games are like "mario" or "pac man"..they are nothing like that and i just see that its a simple thing to just block m rated games or hell even Teen rated games if you dont want your kid playing it..

 

Or better yet if the parents were the one's who bought him the x box 360 and it got to the point where they said he was "addicted" to the game..then why didnt the ohh gee i dont know unplug the system and either throw it on the floor and break it or toss it in the trash can?? now yes they will be out a couple hundred bucks but you know what if thats what it takes to get ur kid to stop playing video games then do it...I"m not saying i would do this with my own children if they were only playing a hour or two a day but if it got to the point to where they were skipping on homework and not doing their chores and getting a attitude then i wouldnt and wont have a problem taking the system away and putting it in me and my wife's room and letting them know that if they try to even go in there and play it that i'll just take a hammer to it and break it..

 

Now i'm sure i'll get some people here saying "oh thats mean and you shouldnt do that to your children" but being a parent is a difficult job and sometimes you have to do things that wont make you popular with your child and may get them to look at you as a P**** or another word i wont use then oh well its something you deal with and if you raise your child right they will learn to get over it and figure out "gee if i do what i need to do and dont be a brat then i can play my games"..

 

Now to lizwooley and whoever else it was that i either offended or made myself sound like i am defensive now or i dont care...What i am about to say may sound rude and dennis you know me and you know i do not cause problems or say things to just be mean but i am entitled to my opinion and i say this and i mean it in no disrespect at all its just how i feel about things..Yes i am defensive now when it comes to anti video game stories because i honestly see it as a waste of time and something that has gone from kind of idiotic to plain stupid..People blaming Grand theft auto, Manhunt,Or any violent game and go on with the whole "playing this game will train you to kill people and murder people" is pure bull and just probably one of the most stupid brain dead things anyone can say...Saying something like that is almost if not just as stupid as if i went and said that "looney tunes cartoons should be banned because bugs bunny dressed as a girl bunny sometimes and that teaches children that cross dressing is ok"

 

Do you see how stupid that sounds..thats what it sounds like when people Blame video games on society's problems today..Lets all come to the fact people that we no longer live in the leave it to beaver world anymore and yes our world is screwed up and not perfect anymore..

 

Basically i see it as it is the parents responsibilty to pay attention to what their children are doing REGARDLESS of how tired they are or what they want to do when they get home...I believe that if you are going to be a parent then parent your child..if you dont want to do that then turn them over to the state...

 

again this is just my opinion and i'm sure i rubbed some people the wrong way..i mean no disrespect but i am and have always been a person who will speak my mind no matter how cold or rude it may sound...

 

I do hope this kid is safe but the parents mainly the father must not give a crap if he helped his son pack a bag and give him directions to get somewhere..i dont care how much you think "hey this will be a good idea cause then he will come running home" it was stupid and the father should be ashamed of himself...and i hope that the father lives with that guilt for the rest of his life...

 

 

dennis i apoligize if i sound out of line but i needed to say that and again if i offended anyone it was not my intent at all..i just speak my mind and i am well known for that on here...

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i agree with you wholey to be honest for myself here, the parental controls are there, yet you hear stuff like this story where the parent's "didn't know about it" despite the constant attention games have gotten lately even in the mass media. i still find it funny that some people push for parental controls... that are ALREADY THERE.

My parents never believed in censoring the world from me, but i did get constant sesame street like lectures about strangers, and real violence vs virtual violence, as well as having gotten my butt beat once for throwing a wiffle bat at a girl who was attacking my friend, all cause its "wrong to hit a girl for ANY reason..." never fully agreed with it, but the point was still burned into my behind. and BOTH my parents worked FULL time, more oft than not my father even had overtime.

as for the breaking things.. my mother did that once.. shattered a 1960's B17G model my grandpa built and gave to me... she did it in such anger she felt really bad for a good time after (well after she cooled off) but she did it in place of worse things that could've happened and i understand the reasoning. I'm just kinda glad she grabbed the plane and not my turtle tank it was on :p

 

"looney tunes cartoons should be banned because bugs bunny dressed as a girl bunny sometimes and that teaches children that cross dressing is ok"

 

lol as mentioned above it has been banned in several forms just for that, as have some disney toons and other misc ones. including a number of either form that were deemed to "racist" or "violent" for public display anymore. IIRC the original transformers toons were banned partially for their violent content... as well as a dip in ratings ;p

you can find a number of the banned toons even, right  here some interesting episodes made the cut.

 

 

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".then why didnt the ohh gee i dont know unplug the system and either throw it on the floor and break it or toss it in the trash can?"

 

That's kidna what they did, this is the result. In a lot of cases, cut someone cold turkey, and you get bad results.

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You realize that by saying that, you're acknowledging that video game addiction can be blamed for his actions, right?

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Same thing can be said of anything they are addicted to and have an emotional and social connection to.  Even more so if it's their only way of connecting to the world.  What if they are a movie nut, and you smash the DVD player.  A car nut and you have it crushed.  Hell, addicted to the yard looking nice and you break the lawn mower.  Being addicted to something to an unhealthy level and then having really bad things happen when it is just "ripped away" (this isn't a good way to deal with things, unless it's a band-aid) should be exactly what you should expect from it.  You need to limit the time back and try to find other activities to fill the time that is being created in their life.  Otherwise you condem them to a hell of having their life and social structure ripped away and saying the equivilent of "deal with it" to them. 

And I admit that if my 360, Wii, PS3, and PC were taken away, I would be crushed and would react badly.  But not because I'm addicted, it would be because they are the only way I can interact with my little brother who was transfered to California with the Marines.  Some can view that as an addictive behaviour because I feel that I honestly do "need" these things (CoD4 is included for the 360 btw), but others can see that it is a honest part of my social structure.

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Re: Cops Organize Big Search for Missing Gamer; Mom Clings to

"looney tunes cartoons should be banned because bugs bunny dressed as a girl bunny sometimes and that teaches children that cross dressing is ok"

It's been done... In fact it's been banned in a good number of private elementary schools in afterschool (for lack of better word) babysitting programs. Then again, I live in Texas so yay Bible belt.

"Do you see how stupid that sounds..thats what it sounds like when people Blame video games on society's problems today..Lets all come to the fact people that we no longer live in the leave it to beaver world anymore and yes our world is screwed up and not perfect anymore.."

We never lived in a Leave it to Beaver world. The only difference is the focus of the media. Back in the "Leave it to Beaver" days, people did not want to hear the evil truth about the world. That, and combined with the relative weakness of their information processing, left them with a fairly positive view of the world. News has learned that violence= ratings (seriously, I would say the best "murder simulator" is the evening news. It desensitizes you just as much as any other violent media) and thus, we are surrounded by it. The world is such a terrible place. We're all going to die any moment... wait *looks out the window* no fire or brimstone... I think we're fine.

 

"i dont care how much you think "hey this will be a good idea cause then he will come running home" it was stupid and the father should be ashamed of himself...and i hope that the father lives with that guilt for the rest of his life..."

For the most part I agree. It happens more times than I would like, and it is hardly effective parenting. Then again, I'm just a mere lad of 23 who, thankfully, has no kids.

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GP: I deleted a couple of over-the-top posts here.

People, I would encourage you to consider the position that the parents are in. Is it frustrating to see games blamed for this?

Yes.

Is it understandable that they might look for easy explanantions under the circumstances?

Probably so.

Let's just hope Brandon is okay.

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There is a difference between being a good parent and being a bad parent.

These parents are being absolutely horrible, and if Brandon is found I hope he gets adopted.

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Is it understandable that they might look for easy explanantions under the circumstances?

Not really... Usually in extreme stress, the LAST thing on peoples mind is explanations and reasoning as to why. Why doesn't, or shouldn't, matter in the minds of the parents right now. What should matter is finding their son, no matter what caused it. The fact it's being dragged up time and time again, no matter what the excuse is, means they want to put the blame on someone or something. This isn't a matter of being a bad or a good parent. This is... bah. There is just so much wrong with this I don't know where to begin.

Search parties, such as these, are usually done when the police start to lessen their own search or when the trail gets stone cold. I don't know much about the rigors of canadian searching, but it is doubtful the police have held the same intensity they had within the first 48 for this long. It's taken them this long to make a search party, and that doesnt sit well with me. Usually in towns such as this (from what I gathered it's a relatively small town), searches such as this often correspond with police investigation, so I find it highly odd that it's taken this long to start an informal search.

At this point, I'm not sure the parents themselves are the likely culprits. The more information that comes in, the less likely it looks they directly did anything... but it looks more and more like they know something they're not saying.

Forgive my pesimism, but that's what I feel is likely at this point. I think I'm going to steer clear of these articles until they make a break in the case. I'm starting to sound like a broken record.

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I find myself agreeing with Zevorick on this; in this case, parents would be less concerned with a statement and MORE concerned with searching for their missing son.  A parent seeking for their child doesn't worry about explanation or blame, they worry about getting their son back home. 

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Ok here's what I think on this matter...

I've been reading the gp comments on the Brandon Crisp related stories since the story broke, and while I think some of the arguments are justified on either side of the case (video games are to blame vs. parents are to blame) I want to add my own opinion on this matter.

1.) On the point "Why would Brandon Crisp run away and not have access to an Xbox, which he was addicted to, right?", I have to repsectfully disagree with. I know from personal experience that when I was younger my Dad had to take away my keyboard and mouse when I was just playing too much computer games. I think there was one incident where I just left the house and went for a long walk in anger. Now, here's what you have to understand about a person in brandon's mindset (only based on what I know so far), he is not thinking clearly or rationally. The interesting thing about 'videogame addiction' (although I don't fully agree with that label it's probably the best option in this case) is that like any other addictive propertly, if you go long enough without it, you don't really want it anymore. So in this case, although Brandon may obviously "want" to play COD4 again, his primary emotion is "revenge". This is my thought process in the situation:

"I am so angry that my parents took my Xbox, I'm going to show them, I'm going to run away, and then they'll be sorry they took it away, what a bunch of jerks".

So see, they're not actually consciously thinking about the videogame! It may be the unconcious motivator for their actions, but at that point in time all they have is a scheme to get back their videogame access, there is no mental connection to videogames, and even if the shceme fails in reasoning and logic, the inidividual will still go out and do it anyways, because they aren't thinking clearly or rationally, so yes, I believe someone can run away and not go towards another xbox or videogames, even though that lack of access is the reason they ran away in the first place.

Unfortunately at this point, there's no telling where this kid could be. If he did ditch his bike, then the next likely mode of transportation would be walking imo, but you never know if this kid was actually going towards a particular direction (and not just trying to get as far as possible), if so he may have hitchhiked to get where he needed to go, and that is just a bad situation. You would think that even action irraitonally he would have enough common sense not to hitchhike, but people do the stupidest things when they're not thinking straight.

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Also, on the issue of the Parents blaming the game itself:

http://www.georginaadvocate.com/News/Regional%20News/article/83309

"“This is a huge wake-up call for me and other parents with all these Internet games,” said Brandon’s mother Angelika Crisp. “We know it’s dangerous but don’t know how complex they are.

“If Bill Gates is such a philanthropist, (he should) take this game off the market, save some children and families from the horrific experience I’ve had,” she urged, describing the nine sleepless nights and worry-filled days as “days of panic.”"

And how responsible were they as Parents?  Here's there own admission:

"“There’s no information for us to know if he goes online, this is where it could lead,” said Mrs. Crisp, adding the games offer a false sense of safety and security, as players watch each other’s backs on the virtual battlefield."

I think the modem cable/wireless modem connection plus the bit on the box about online play should be the giveaway.

"“Parents should be more informed, so we can decide,” she added, noting Brandon began playing the Xbox game two years ago and took the experience up a notch by going online to play interactively."

"Since Brandon’s disappearance last Monday, his parents have learned a lot about the video-gaming world."

Oh, NOW you make time.  Isn't that ALWAYS the way?  Whether online or off, when you don't put forth an effort, you learn that you should have learned a long time ago.  So if your kid is allergic to peanuts, do you just not buy peanuts for him or do you actually keep a closer watch on other things that might be connectec and perhaps even ask your doctor about other associated foods that are bad for him?

"“I have found out since that money can be involved in it now and kids can be attracted to the offer of money,” said Brandon’s dad Steve Crisp."

That's a new one on me in regards to the game, or at least on the xbox 360.  I know you have to buy Microsoft Points and pay for subscriptions, but what else?

"Mr. Crisp also learned there are parental controls on the Xbox, which would have allowed him to limit the amount of time his son could play."

Way to go there Sparky.  You'd think a Parent would check for that sort of thing.

"“We were involved in our own busy lives as parents and didn’t understand how it worked. He played it every waking hour of the day.”"

No, you were involved in your OWN lives and too neglectful to BE Parents.  If you were actually involved in being PARENTS, you would have investigated every askpect of what you buy for your kids.  You put the effort into evaluating the foods for your kids, the insurance for your kids, the school for your kids, the neighborhood you're moving into, the vehicle you buy, so on and so forth.  It's not that big of a step to consider the media that your child is exposed to and all aspects of it.

The rest of the article is fairly decent as well.  But the point is just as in the previous paragraph, treat all media, in every form, broad and specific, every genre, etc just as you would every other aspect of your decision making process.

Contrary to popular agenda seeker misinformation, there is a great deal of inofrmation out there, a great deal of resources for even the most layman of Parents to obtain information on what they expose their children to.

These Parents admit they didn't take the time to actually BE Parents.  As a result, they are now placing the blame everywhere else but in their own laps, where it actually belongs.


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''"“There’s no information for us to know if he goes online, this is where it could lead,” said Mrs. Crisp, adding the games offer a false sense of safety and security, as players watch each other’s backs on the virtual battlefield." ''

 

oh WightWng dont forget the suspicious and hard to spot payments each month for 3 years to xbox live lol.

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''"“There’s no information for us to know if he goes online, this is where it could lead,” said Mrs. Crisp, adding the games offer a false sense of safety and security, as players watch each other’s backs on the virtual battlefield." ''

 

oh WightWng dont forget the suspicious and hard to spot payments each month for 3 years to xbox live lol.

makes thae fact they claim they didnt know they could prevent him playing even more stupid. err.. dont pay.

Brandon's Backpack

An email I sent to Dennis...

I guess somebody's fact checking isn't that good. I had an intern talking with people at the Toronto News Bureau. I held off moderating a lengthy comment until I could verify the details on this story.

I think this side story has taken on a life of its own...blown way out of proportion.

In any case Dennis, I was wrong on the fundamentals based on this initial information, so I do apologize for that.

Thanks,
Brad

 

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and we were worried about jack thomspons replacement howw long till he tells us to shut up and get dressed for our hitler youth rally?

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So you were no longer able to dodge that previously proven fact hm?  Yes I understand that it is hard.  People taking responsibility for their own actions and the actions of those under their care rather than blaming inanimate objects.  Of course if people did take such responsibility for themselves your blog would be moot now wouldn't it?

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

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I suspect he lied about his 'sources' so that he could ignore that fact as long as possible.  Mainly because there's been word of the father packing the bag for quite a while now.

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come on have a heart people.  IF you were in the same situation you would also create explanations for what happened.  Her son ran away, you can't blame his parents for trying to cope with the situation. 

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 Blaming shit would be the last thing on my mind. Finding my kid would be the first thing. It's like those parents who hold press conferences (or husbands) and the very very first thing they say is "WE TOTALLY DIDN'T DO IT U GUYS FOR REALS SOME BLACK DUDE STOLE MY CAR/KILLED MY WIFE/CARVED A B IN MY FACE!".

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The one thing about that that raises questions for me is how hard they seem to stick to it.

-Remember kids, personal responsibility is for losers!

-The Buck Stops Here.

-Thou Shall Not Teamkill, Asshole.

Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

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 More and more this sounds like "He ran away because of COD4 it had NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT WE DID TO HIM!".

The Infamous Backpack

Oh, okay, finally we have this issue in context, thanks to the Toronto Star. Thanks go to

Kind of blown out of proportion, yes?

My source was incorrect, and I am glad to have the right info, thanks.

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You know what?  I think you made up your source.  I think you're just trying to manipulate the facts so that you can strengthen your story and push your agenda.  How's that working out for you Mr. Thompson?

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Glad to clarify the matter, and yes, not a major issue at all imho, this sort of response would be considered perfectly normal in the UK, and, obviously, also in Canada, though that may not be the case in the US.

Either way, the single most important factor right now is getting the poor lad home and safe, there's time enough for blame and recriminations later.

Brandon's Backpack... The Biggest Hoax

Let's put the "Brandon's father packed his bag" business to rest please.

From my contact at the CTV National News:

Hey Brad,

Spoke to some people at the
(Toronto) bureau working on this story. They've been following the story pretty closely have not heard anything remotely close to what you described.  Sounds like crazy internet sensationalism to me.

If you have a major media or police source that differs from this, I would dearly love to hear it. The fact you heard from a friend who heard from a blogger who heard it from his cousin's Facebook group doesn't make it true.

I have asked Dennis at gamepolitics.com to issue a statement on this site supporting the information I have provided here.

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And this article (From CTV, no less) does at least confirm that Brandon did express his intention of leaving, although it leaves out how the father reacted to it:

"We had basically taken his Xbox away. He took it back, and the catalyst for this was I took it away for good the second time and at that point, that was when he said he couldn't handle it anymore, he said he was leaving," said Steve Crisp."

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http://www.thestar.com/article/521731

_________________________________________________

"I told him he wouldn't be getting his Xbox back. He said, `Then I'm going to leave home.'"

Steve called his son's bluff and even helped him pack his knapsack.

"I really thought he would be home later that day with his tail between his legs," said Steve, who remembers running away from home once when he was a boy.

_________________________________________________

 

I think this is where the idea came from. Though I've seen no reports verifying this from that point onwards. However, my own father did exactly the same thing to me when I was young.

Either way, I've been pretty appalled at some of the comments on here, I defended gamers to Brad on his site because I felt we were being misrepresented, I still feel that way, but some of the comments on here make it hard to.

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I pray to God that they hurry up and find him!

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I don't know what happened to this kid, but I doubt he is just at a friend's house. The police would surely have found him by now if that was the case. The whole order of events in this sitation bothers me.

1. Aproximately three years ago the boy starts playing a version of Call of Duty. (I'm going with the assumption that the parents are simply stating Call of Duty 4 because that is the most recent version he has been playing)

2. Over time his parents start to feel his play is out of control, however they buy further versions of the game for him and continue to pay his Live account fees.

3. After three years of addictive behaviors they decide to take the console away from Brandon. They hide it, but he finds it at least once and resumes his playing habits. They hide it again and presumably he does not find it a second time. (Does anyone know if this is correct?)

4. The boy becomes angry with his parents and threatens to leave home because they aren't allowing him to play the game. His father thinks that leaving will somehow be a good lesson for him and helps him pack his bag as well as giving him directions to where he wants to go.

5. Brandon leaves the house with his things on a mountain bike. As far as we know he had no opportunity to contact anyone via Xbox Live because of lack of access to the system.

6. He rides his bike 20 klicks from his house to a hiking trail where he apparently has some kind of problem with it and abandons it on the road.

7. He encounters a local resident while walking down the path and speaks with her breifly regarding his broken bike.

8. There has been no contact from Brandon either on the internet or any other means since that day.

9. The parents make several statements to the press, including stating that their son could have been in trouble with "the mob, internet gamblers" and that he could have meant with some "team player" participating in a "bizzare video game that has somehow crossed into reality". They also state that he could be hiding out in one of the houses nearby that is used only seasonally, enjoying their amenities. However the father subsequently states his belief that Brandon would never put them through all this if he knew how they were suffering because he is "good at heart".

As far as I know these are the facts we are being presented with. I have a lot of questions. I would like to know when he was reported missing, for example. The parents have said his grades were suffering. I would like to know how badly. (If he went from straight A's to B's that's one thing, but if he went to failing that's something else.) I would like to know if he had other problems at home, or if he was having problems at school; perhaps with other students. I doubt that he just disappeared and is wandering the streets. I won't rehash all the facts that point away from him being an actual addict, others have beat that horse to death already. I do think that the parents have been at the least irresponsible. It seems to me that there are many steps they could have taken to deal with their sons' problems before it got to this point. However that is not really important at this point. What matters is what actually happened to Brandon. At this point I suspect everyone. His friends, people at his school, his parents. There simply isn't enough information to narrow down the list of people who might know something about what happened to him. I hate to say it but at this point it is almost certain that he has either been abducted or killed. The likelihood that he simply left and hasn't been seen or heard from is pretty remote. If his parents weren't involved in their son's disappearance then they have my deepest sympathies. However my greatest sympathy goes out Brandon himself who is obviously in trouble.

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there so bent on this gimp theory i wonder if they actually know more their letting on.

more than likely though its just the grief, but it still sounds bad when someone clings so tightly to a theory like that with very little evidence to back it up.

what i find worse is the negligence the parents had for their kids online activities and little knowledge of those he played/talked to and about what.

any kid should know you NEVER give out personal info online to strangers, let alone in person to strangers. But since they know he hasn't logged in AFTER he had the system taken and he went missing, then info must have been traded before hand.

 

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Yeah...this is turning into a wicked clusterfuck. I just hope the poor kid's not dead.

 

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The parents aren't blaming the game, they're blaming the people who play the game. COD4 doesn't need defending...WE do. And it's thanks to the racists and trolls that we have a bad name.

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in a police investagation they should consider ever path open to them and the path i see that should be look at is the dad becuse appelaty he help the kid pack his things. hopefully the kid is okay but i doubt he hiding at a freind house since that the frist place the cops would check unless he has friends his parents did not know anything about which would be their fault for sure for not knowing who he hangs out with.

thats my thoughs as of right now.

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They aren't bad parents because they let him play M rated games.  M rated games don't hurt your children.  And M rated games didn't make that kid run away.

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Indeed. And it'll probably turn out he was actually addicted to Barbie Horse Adventures...

 

 

-Remember kids, personal responsibility is for losers! Jack Thompson is still a dick...

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We already established that he wasn't "addicted" to Call of Duty 4.

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Humor, VH, humor...

 

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Oops, lol!  Sorry.

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That mother is crazy, no wonder he split.  Shes seeing monsters in the shadows.  Time to check into the ward.

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Slow your roll Captain, it's not that serious. She's distraught. I'd be more concerned if she wasn't acting all frantic.

 

-Remember kids, personal responsibility is for losers! Jack Thompson is still a dick...

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Re: Cops Organize Big Search for Missing Gamer; Mom Clings to

Guys, pointing fingers at the parents is no better than pointing fingers at the video games, there are so many factors that we are not aware of in this case, purely because the Police are not going to release those facts, since they may prove salient at a later date.

As I said earlier, if Brandon left on the night of the argument, or after the XBox had been banned, then how did he manage to arrange a meeting with anyone, he would already have been isolated from those potential 'threats'? There's more to this than we are aware, and we all need to keep that in mind, it may not be the parents' fault, it may not be the videogames fault, Brandon may be in danger, Brandon may not be in danger, he may even have been so terrified by the response to his dissapearance that he's too scared of coming back because of the trouble he thinks he might be in, and, if he is staying with a friend, they might feel the same way.

I'm concerned primarily for the boy, and I think that pointing fingers right now is more of a distraction than a productive thing to do, there are no answers, and there will be no answers until Brandon is found, so assuming it's bad parenting is just as non-productive as assuming he's been taken by some kind of Internet predator.

Right now, minds, and options, need to be left open for the Police, and I think assuming anything right now could close avenues of investigation that otherwise would not have been overlooked, and that could make all the difference.

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You're right. This is why I didn't said anything about this case. I didn't want to point the finger at the parents because something tells me that there's a lot that we don't know yet. And blaming the parents won't make him reappear.

I'm really concerened about the boy because a year ago, a little girl disappeared and everyone were looking for her (there were "Have you seen her" poster everywhere. 12 months later and she still haven't been found (not even as a corpse). I just hope the same thing won't happen with this boy.

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All I can say, if they do get him back, what on earth are they going to do with him?  I'd ship him over to Amsterdam, before he could sit down!  Keith will take care of him!

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Yeah then he can get himself a nice helping of legal hookers and pot!

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IF that was done history would repeat itself all over again.

 

Sorry, but that sounds exactly like an over involved father threatening to shove his son into military school over one B+ on a report card.

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He's certainly going to need counselling, though I'd personally reserve judgement as to which kind until we have reasons, rather than theories.

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It's a sad story.

 

But I always roll my eyes at people who blame something else rather than looking into the mirror.

99% of the time that's where the blame lies.

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Um... I think the biggest hole in this story is the game they keep reference (CoD4), but...

Alright. I read in an article that the father originally hid the Xbox in his bathroom vanity, but the boy found it, which the father caught him playing it... again. Then, the father moved the Xbox to his WORKPLACE. I don't remember if the article said he took the game as well, but since the father seems to not know much about video games in general, he probably left it in the consule itself. Even then, the game case has to be SOMEWHERE. They can easily look up the name of the game.

I'd rather not believe in foul play, but I do believe in the straw that broke the camel's back... I leave foul play as a constant possibility. No matter who the parents are, there's always the possibility of abuse, neglact, or endangerment. My girlfriend is living proof of that (and has so far survived her evil mother, too).

 
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