Jack Thompson Disbarment Celebrations?

Jack Thompson Disbarment Celebrations?

October 24, 2008

The clock has just about wound down on Jack Thompson's legal career. As of tomorrow, his lifetime disbarment becomes effective.

To commemorate the event, a U.K. gamer sent us this graphic which is apparently circulating on 4chan (although I'm too frightened of 4chan to go there and check)...

Thompson's disbarment is truly the end of an era. With his bombastic online presence and frequent media appearances, he became the face of the anti-video game movement. And as he self-destructed, he took that movement down with him.

Although the tenacious Thompson won't be disappearing, whatever clout he may have earned with politicians and like-minded video game critics over the years has been flushed by his inexplicably vicious behavior. He has essentially made himself radioactive.

So, gamers, are you planning any celebrations to mark the day?

Here at GamePolitics we'll be posting some of the more memorable graphics and anecdotes from the Jack Thompson era, with an emphasis on funny...

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So long and good ridens

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Well me and a bunch of co-workers are heading down to a pub, and going to drink some snakebites. Of course they would be in memory of the bile and bitter venom Jack has been spewing for years :D

Oh and play GTA4 and Counterstrike just for the heck of it :P

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That was what I was thinking.  I think this should be celebrated with a massive GTA4 multiplayer party

 

Foaming at the mouth

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Honestly can't happen soon enough.  But sadly it won't really stop him from being his crazy self in his quest to do anything against common sense and parental responsibility. But who knows, maybe we can get him playing WoW with all of that free time he has now.

Jeremy Powers aka Zen
Panama City, Fl.

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I'm going to celebrate with my wife and son by playing Gears of War as a family.

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I'm going down to Piscataway for Ubercon with some friends. I'll make sure to spend some time in the PC and console gaming sections and gib a few unfortunate saps just for you, Jack.

 "There are some things in life worth making a fuss over. This probably isn't one of them."~ Something a lot of stressed-out people in the world need to remember.

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I'll celebreate by playing Saints Row 2.

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I'll be playing that too! I'll bust a virtual cap in the name of JT. :)

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I will play one of the first games that trully started the horrors of video gaming violence PONG.

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lol no no guys, youve all got it wrong. Jack has assured me he has a 'big suprise' that will 'prevent his disbarrment'

seriously.

err i mean theres still a few hours left ... what? a  liar? ...Jack??  NO WAY! I WONT BELIEVE IT !!! you'll see! the florida bar will turn round and pardon him, and the people of america will unite, and make Jack the first King of America. You'll see. itl happen.

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Nice joke, Nova. Too bad I'm not laughing.

*facepalm*

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I AM DOOMED TO HAUNT JACK THOMPSON'S DREAMS UNTIL HIS CRUSADE AGAINST VIDEO GAMES ENDS.

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it would be funny, but the problem is that it actually echos  quite accurately the unbelievably stupid claims Jack has spewed time and time again.

 

I mean literally it was like 7 days ago he was claiming he still wont be disbarred because of some suprise or other. I think it must have been his big 'Firefox countdown clock' == commercial conspiracy nonsense.

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I had no plans, but now that you mention it, I will try for the following achievements in Fable II: The Party Animal, The Swinger, The Bigamist (and I promise mostly lesbian weddings) and perhaps The Gambler and The Executioner.

Check the link on Saturday to see my progress!

And did anyone notice that the "Come Hither" emote's icon is a coffee mug?

 

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Yeah, I got a laugh out of the coffee mug as well. Just got Come Hither today.

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We should ban JT to not be able to post in any threats until they are directly about him, like this one, haha.  I think it would be only fair for him to defend himself, but since has absolutely disrupted the community, and many others...  He should have no right to be allowed to even get online IMO.

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Next week, I'll be playing Penny Arcade Episode 2. Take THAT Jack.

---You are likely to be eaten by a Grue.

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I wanted to go to Dave and Buster's, but my wife has a paper to work on for class :-/

I guess I'll be playing Saints Row.

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I'm going to celebrate by finally buying Grand Theft Auto IV.  Although I probably won't play it much for awhile, what with Fallout 3 coming out next week.

As for Jack, I think the best is yet to come.  He may still be around, but he's bound to land himself in some serious trouble with the law if'n he doesn't wise up and knock off the crap.  Which he won't, so it'll be marvellously entertaining to watch.

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Doesn't he have 5 extra days after he is disbarred to wrap up the loose ends?

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I AM DOOMED TO HAUNT JACK THOMPSON'S DREAMS UNTIL HIS CRUSADE AGAINST VIDEO GAMES ENDS.

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I thought the 30 days WAS to wrap up loose ends.

 

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Nope. That's what the 30 days since the FSCs ruling is for.

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Well, being that I lack money to go buy a game out of spite to the soon to be ex lawyer, I'll probably take my adopted son and we'll play a game together on Saturday.

Amy Levandoski

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http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=2793707

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I can't help but think that this thread will get added on as more proof he's being disbarred because of the games industry

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Im gonna celebrate JT's disbarment by buying a violent video game!, Then Pizza, Cheeseburgers, And to warm up the celebration!, DDR TIME!

Then a brief period of remeberance of the hilarous,rediculous,assinine and lewd acts of Jack "Douchebag" Thompson, We did it folks, We did it.

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following that, more ddr, then some more, then more, until your sure the cheeseburgers are all gone...

been there before, I have....

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I'm having a party at my house on the 25th. I honestly didn't realized the day's were the same, but I'l have to make some posters or something.

I'l let you know how it goes!

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 I'l have to make some posters or something.

Like we keep telling Jack, evidence or it didn't happen (Here at GamePolitics we'll be posting some of the more memorable graphics... ) Get to work!!!!!

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http://www.myspace.com/hermoinefan_420 (and boom goes the dynamite)

 

 

at a friends house so prollo work on my liberty city stories file and play some gh3 online on the ps3

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To John Bruce,
Today, October the 24th 2008, you might still call yourself an attorney.
Today, I can be called butt ugly.
Tomorrow, I'll still be butt ugly.
Today, maybe you should get blind stinking drunk.
That way, tommorrow you'll have SOMETHING to look forward to.

Nightwng2000

NW2K Software

Nightwng2000 has also updated his MySpace page: http://www.myspace.com/nightwing2000 Nightwng2000 is now admin to the group "Parents For Education, Not Legislation" on MySpace as http://groups.myspace.com/pfenl

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......A hangover?

Game on, brothers and sisters.

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Hmmm now that I think about it.... Jackie sorta DOES remind me of a hangover, give you a headache and makes you a little nausous.

 

Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

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That reminds me of a quote from someone, I think it's Mark Twain or Hemingway but I'm not sure, anyway it went something like

"Sir you're drunk."

"Yeah well you're ugly but the difference here is that tomorrow I'll be sober."

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"What for you bury me in the cold cold ground?" - Tasmanian devil

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Nightwing would you care to say a few more kind words for Mr. Career or are you saving those for tomorrow?

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"What for you bury me in the cold cold ground?" - Tasmanian devil

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I have to pull out my old dusty copy of GTA to celebrate.

Ok, we got Jack Thompson down, now lets go after MP Keith Vaz. This is going to be harder because he is more sane, but since he is a MP, we have the power of democracy. Gamers Unite!

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I guess he'll have to change his tagline from:  "

 

This has to be the beginning of the downhill dive.  I give it less than a month before we hear about some lawsuit slaped on his ass.

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I prefer "Jack Thompson, Legal Eunuch and You're Not".

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Jack Thompson, Forum Troll and You're Not

Jack Thompson, Disgraced Former Attorney and You're Not

Jcak Tohmsopn, Dislexic and You're Not

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Remember its not over until the..... eeer who ordered a singing fat lady?

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*hides the cell phone* Wasn't me sir. I have no idea why theres a batallion of large female opera singers warming up on the front yard.

 

Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

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Jack Thompson made me appreciate Free Speech and the First Amendment more than anyone ever did.  Perhaps his crazy antics trying to supress freedom was actually meant to create appreciation for those very freedoms?

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So what are we gonna call tomorrow?

First Amendment Day

I'm not an Attorney, but Neither Are You Day

Jackhole Memorial Day

-- http://pixelantes.blogspot.com/

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Schadenfreude Day.

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To tie that back to the gaming lingo:

Epic Fail Day

-- http://pixelantes.blogspot.com/

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How about Gamer's New Year?

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Hubris Day?

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I'm still a fan of "Personal Responsibility Day"

But that's just me.

E. Zachary Knight
Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA
MySpace Page: http://www.myspace.com/okceca
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has a nice ring to it.

 

i kinda prefer JackAss day lol

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International talk like Jack Thompson day, where we talk like the slightly delusional attorney we all know and love.

At the end of the day we'll say something about how JT got disbarred on this day and then celebrate with a nice hearty "Hooah" (or is it Hooha ... I can't believe I don't remember anymore).

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"What for you bury me in the cold cold ground?" - Tasmanian devil

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How about Pixelantes Independence Day? (your signature gave me the idea)

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We're having a countdown celebration party tonight. Pretty excited.

“When men are most sure and arrogant they are commonly most mistaken, giving views to passion without that proper deliberation which alone can secure them from the grossest absurdities” ~ David Hume

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13 hours guys! Than, I'm going to clebrate by killing everysingle zombie i can in dead rising followed by more violent games! XD  Suck on that JT.


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Tomorrow, I'll get out a bottle of rum and drink to his disbarment!

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Well, time to update the news on 01chan.

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By the way, Dennis, if it's circulating 4chan, it's most likely circulating /v/ and theres really nothing to fear there other than trolls.

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TRUTH TRUTH TRUTH TRUTH TRUTH

Always remember, Dennis:

If the background's blue, the board's okay; If it's yellow, STAY AWAY!

 

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Jack Thompson: future Good Burger employee of the month

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I have just come home from buying Dead Space and will be playing it today to celebrate :)

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Sept. 25 should be the celebration day, IMO. Of course, we should celebrate tomorrow, but I think the holiday should be in September. It was a remarkable day when the courts upheld American law. Oct. 25 is merely the official day he got the boot, but Sept. 25 is when it all finally ended.

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I'm calling it "smashed off my ass" day. because I'll be celebrating by doing all day WoW Raids

 

what better way to celebrate failure than with massive success>?

 

 

(if you don't understand it, it's because the true raiding pros in world of warcraft NEVER raid sober)

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Jack I truly truly hope you lose everything you have in your life.

My guess is that when you were suing Take 2,Wal Mart and others you wanted nothing more than to see the boys who made GTA out on the streets begging for money. Personally when you ask me for change I will spit in your face.

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At this point, I don't think that there's really a need for any ill-will towards him. I mean, he's like a dog that's lost it's teeth. Sure, it'll might still want to bite you, but at worst you'll receive a nasty gumming.

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Since my birthday was on Weds., this weekend is a combination b-day/disbarrment day celebration filled with fun, friends, games and booze.

This is my first comment on here, as I just wanted to add my 2 cents about Mr Jack. I've followed his career for a while, and every time I read a story about him it made me laugh. All of his claims, his insane behavior, all the insults to people in blogs and message boards; its just too much to take seriously. And its not like you can agrue with him rationally. He's in his own reality where he is king. But I have to admit, it was amusing.  You could always count on him to push the limits of sanity to the breaking point.

Its like in that Simpsons episode where they go to Brazil. I the beginning, the phone was cut off and Marge asked Homer what he was going to do:

Bart (with fingers crossed): "Crazy scheme, crazy scheme, crazy scheme..."
Homer: "Get me tools and beer."
Bart: "Yes!"

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Maybe I'll go out tomorrow, purchase GTA4, and finally play the damn game... Victory is sweet.

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I'm gonna play Painkiller (hopefully, if my laptop doesn't crash) and Dead Space (if 1. Dad will let me play and 2. if the comp holds up). Maybe a little RE4: WE...Ooh! I could go see if GameStop has a copy of GTA for the GBA!

I'm also gonna gorge myself on junk food, watch some TV....and hopefully start on my project for my Tech. Writ./Com. class. Damn oral presentation......

Update: No such luck with Dead Space or GTA. Best Buy says they may have Dead Space, but the back room's too cluttered to find it (get to work, you lazy bums!). Gamestop had GTA2 for the GB Color, but they said it sucked, so I didn't go for it. -.- If I can find it, I'll just play my old disk of FPS classics I downloaded off the Internet when I was still in high school. Had the classics: Wolfenstein 3D, Doom, Heretic, Hexen...it was kick ass.

Game on, brothers and sisters.

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At the fork in the road,(between perverted or violent play)  I will take the route of perverted play.  You guessed it, The Sims 2.  Yes, my Sims are naked.  NO, They are not Ken and Barbie, and No they do not need a bed, car, or closet to woohoo.  Mine can do that anywhere.  (insert maniacal laughter here because I just can't spell it phonetically).  That will have to wait until I get home from work after midnight.

Jack go woohoo yourself.

 

 

Insanity has its toll. Please have exact change.

 

oops.  had to edit. forgot to spell check.

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....Or maybe I could take your route...but go a little farther than that. At Otakon '08, I got a Jap w/English subtitles hentai game called Bazooka Cafe, and I've just been waiting to tear that shit up. However, my laptop's gonna hafta take another hit. Oh, well.....Buh-bye, Thompson! Don't let the door hit ya where the dog shoulda bit ya! (so corny)

Game on, brothers and sisters.

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Why take that route? Jack was mainly against violent games not porno ones. Although there are lots of insane people who think porno will lead to us all objectifying women or whatever made up stuff they drew out of a hat this week. Oh well, I shall be playing all the violent games that I can. Perhaps I'll finally pop in the Godfather game that I haven't tried yet and finish off with Hitman and GTA.

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"What for you bury me in the cold cold ground?" - Tasmanian devil

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Aunty here, using Warren's laptop.  Yes, he did attack violent games more, but said that The Sims 2 was worse than Hot Coffee.  He did harass EA Games about them, not as much as other game manufacturers, but still, he did.  I suck at playing GTA.  I keep wrecking the cars (when I'm not trying to).   I also am not good using a controller to shoot.   The console games I play (Zelda, FF, and Harry Potter) are not ones he has attacked. 

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I wish they'd delayed it a week, so I could play manhunt in celebration, But I'll have to settle with killer7 for now. Or maybe pick up Mortal Kombat and design that Jack custom character that got his panties in a twist....

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Joining the Manhunt 2 rush on the 31st!

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I plan to try and finish Dead Space, head over to California to visit some friends and go to a rave, take part in some of the questionable and immoral activities Jack Thompson so frequently accuses us of partaking of, then come back just in time to start playing Fallout 3. Life is good :)

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I don't plan to celebrate as such, I simply plan to be relieved that such a vicious, uncaring and vindictive man, who for all his accusations at gamers, was far more inclined to engage his mouth before his brain than most members of the Internet, will finally be recieving the justice that he earned for himself.

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Every Year I shall devote this day entirely to the pursuit of Gaming in all of it's forms. Happy Jack Thompson Disbarrment Day!

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Well, I was planning on devoting a good portion of Saturday (maybe tonight too) to playing Mother 3, but not because of Jack. But I might work in some Manhunt/Hitman now that you mention it. 

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I intend to celebrate by decapitating alien zombies in Dead Space. w00t!

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I'll be celebrating by getting the new Kirby DS game. I'm also going to play elite beat agents through my headphones. May not seem like much, but they're both my favorite games.

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Tommorrow we're celebrating my buddy's birthday, so you can be sure there'll a nice, old bottle of Jack Daniel's sipping whiskey on hand to toast with.

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I'll be gaming of course, but I'll play what I want to play, regardless of whether or not Mr. Thompson complained about it. Even in this I won't let him decide for me :P

Oh, and I have a bottle of bubbly to pop open at midnight.

 

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I'm probablly gonna go real old, and crack open my original PS2 copy of San Andreas and wreak some havoc.

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lets count down:

3, 2, 1...

PARTY TIME!!!! Ding Dong the witch is dead...

 

Nice countdown clock EZK, let me do the countdown in real time. Ooh and it even says he's disbarred afterards, not just showing a zero clock, nice touch! Schadenfreude thy name is EZK

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I made a facebook event for the occassion http://www.new.facebook.com/event.php?eid=29421904698
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To celebrate today I'm going to spend the day time playing Fable 2 and the evening playing Dead Space. Both got released yesterday here in Ireland, just in time :)

 

 

 

Playing GTA alone does not teach you how to maintain,operate or effectivly use any modern firearm, nor bestow unto you the resolve to shoot a human being. Give our public schools some credit people!

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I went on a GTA shooting spree at midnight in GTA:SA. At the stroke of midnight, hookers died!

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Hey does anyone know Jack's fail level?

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Posted 11/07/09 at 10:58am
JDKJ: Which could be explained by both (a) and (b).
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:56am
Austin_Lewis: JDKJ: You forgot C) the fact that, for some reason, every time he did something that would suggest he shouldn't be in the military, let alone an officer, higher ups ignored it or let it slide.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:51am
JDKJ: Part of the problem is, I believe, that (a) the Army had a lot of time and money already invested in him and which they were unwilling to simply write-off and (b) an increasing need for the type of skills and services he provided.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:48am
JDKJ: And that even if he was begging not to get cut loose, he was apparently a real good candidate for being cut loose, anyway.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:11am
JDKJ: @chada: And while Kennedy once noted that there's usually more than enough blame for everyone to get a slice, the possibility that the Army was unwilling to cut loose someone who was asking to get cut loose could be a factor.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:07am
ZippyDSMlee: *noms on his feet*..nomnomnomnom*droooll* ...wuuutttttt uuu looking at?
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:05am
JDKJ: I'm no psychologist, but I'm told that crazy people have a tendency to do crazy things.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:03am
chadachada321: Whoops, was out of the convo for awhile. I do wonder what type of ammo he used etc, but the real issue is WHY he did it, not HOW
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:56am
JDKJ: But if it turns out that they actually did, they'll have Hell to pay.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:45am
JDKJ: And I'd tend to rule out the possibilty of FN Herstal supplying restricted ammunition to someone merely because they're ordering it from a military base.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:37am
JDKJ: I know you don't leave your gated community and get around much in dark alleys, so you may be surprised to learn that there's this thing called "the black market" where, if you've got enough money, ain't too much of anything which can't be bought.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:36am
Austin_Lewis: Or, maybe he or someone else at the base ordered the SS190 from FN Herstal.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:32am
Austin_Lewis: the hands of private owners. They run about 300 dollars minimum for a box of 50, and boxes of AP 5.7 are extremely scarce, mainly residing in the hands of Class III stores or individuals who for one reason or another got a demo box of it.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:30am
Austin_Lewis: There are other firearms that fire the 5.7. However, I too would like to know where he got the ammo and what kind was used. Maybe Hasan, planning not to live through this, went out and bought one the boxes of SS190 that are floating around in
Posted 11/07/09 at 08:44am
JDKJ: And it isn't yet clear what type of ammunition Hasan used. It's strange that he purchased a gun but didn't purchase ammunition for it at the same place and time. Especially because the calibre required is peculiar to the actual gun.
Posted 11/07/09 at 08:40am
JDKJ: We can sit here all day and debate the relative merits. However, I think the events of recent days suggest that an FN Five-Seven ain't exactly the same as that Daisy BB gun you got for Christmas when you were a kid.
Posted 11/07/09 at 08:38am
Austin_Lewis: JDKJ: tumbling can be quite dangerous. However, the rounds that commonly tumbled were variants of the SS90. Civilian ammo tends to tumble far less commonly.
Posted 11/07/09 at 08:33am
JDKJ: I understand that while they don't have much expansion effect, they tend to "yaw" on impact. Yaw can be almost just as damaging as mushrooming.
Posted 11/07/09 at 08:30am
Austin_Lewis: JDKJ: Except when one considers the lack of expansion for the 5.7, it basically ends up leaving a far smaller hole.
Posted 11/07/09 at 08:29am
JDKJ: But if the latter's travelling at close to twice the speed of the former, there's a compensatory effect on the weight difference.
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