Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

October 25, 2008 -

Despite yesterday's massive search effort, Brandon Crisp remains missing. The 15-year-old gamer disappeared after a family dispute on October 13th.

The Vancouver Sun reports that Microsoft Canada has chipped in $25,000, raising the reward fund total to $50,000. Brandon's parents told police that the young man left home after an argument over what they described as his obsessive play of Call of Duty 4 on Xbox Live.

A Barrie P.D. spokesman said that Microsoft was cooperating fully with the investigation: 

Microsoft said they would do anything they can to expedite the process to find Brandon," said Sgt. Dave Goodbrand, spokesman for the Barrie police.

Brandon's parents say he was obsessed with playing an online game called Call of Duty 4 on his Xbox and police have been working with Microsoft to track down the Internet addresses of everyone who interacted with the 15-year-old before he disappeared. There are concerns he may have gone to meet someone he met online.

Barrie P.D. says that it has received more than a thousand tips that need follow-up. Psychics and even the newly-disbarred Jack Thompson have offered advice. From the Sun:

Miami lawyer Jack Thompson called Barrie police offering his help. Thompson, whose cases have included a youth who committed murder by re-enacting scenes from video games, said a young person addicted to video games can be traumatized if forced to go cold turkey.


"It's a psychological and physiological condition," said Thompson. "These are tough things to have the kid go cold turkey."

Barrie P.D. has established a tip line for information concerning Brandon's whereabouts: 705-725-7025 ext. 2160

For all GP coverage on the Brandon Crisp case click here.

UPDATE: Steve Crisp, Brandon's father, is urging Microsoft to expedite the process of extracting contact information from the hard drive of the missing boy's Xbox 360, reports CTV. Mr. Crisp made this plea:

The key to finding my son lies in this XBox hard drive. Please, if you can speed up the process of handing this information over to our police, it could mean a big difference in our son's safe return. There are a lot of red tape and legal issues I know that Microsoft probably has, and the police probably have.

CTV has posted video interviews with Steve Crisp as well as with Sgt. Dave Goodbrand of the Barrie P.D.

Comments

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

The likelihood is by now the kid's dead.

The second likelihood is if he met someone on XBL, he probably voicechatted, meaning he could hear the other person speaking.

If he did so, he either knew the person was older than he was and went with him, or it was someone his own age. (Edit:If he knew it was someone his own age, that person wouldn't have the resources to get him very far)

Shame on his parents for not even taking the time to listen at his door. When I was that age, my mom regularly walked up behind me and read my conversations, or would go into her room and watch TV (her room is across from mine) while I was on the phone with online friends.

It was ENTIRELY the parents' decision to let this kid play an M rated game. They had, if they were paying attention to what this kid was doing, NO DOUBT IN THEIR MINDS that people over 18 would be ALL OVER this game, and that there would occasionally be a stalker.

It's easy to blame problems on video games. It's not the games' fault the kid was kidnapped. Addiction to video games takes a LONG time to build up, or requires a mind that's easily addicted to things, or even OCD.

In any case, the problem was already there.

More likely, though, anyone inviting other players to come over to their house would be banned off of a server in CoD 4. I'd certainly ban and call the police on anyone talking about ANYTHING that highly inappropriate on any server I ran.

Epic fail on the parent's part for not nipping this thing in the bud. Epic fail for blaming it on anything other than themselves, and if this is just purposeful media misquoting, epic fail on the media's part for butchering what they said.

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

It is just as easy to blame the parents as it is to blame the game.

It's no time for blaming yet. Once the kid (or at least a body) is found, now you can start with the blaming.

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

THE PARENTS NEVER BLAMED THE GAME!

Why are these stupid news stories all culminating into a ridiculous debate about which is to blame?

The parents made a few mistakes, and did their best to correct them. Their best wasn't quite good enough. Yeah, WE GET THAT! We don't need a bunch of teenage turds constantly calling adults "sucky parents".

But the bottom line is that NO ONE HAS YET TO BLAME COD4 for this kid's disappearance; they blame the gamers that played on Live. Why can't people get that through their heads?

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

"THE PARENTS NEVER BLAMED THE GAME!"

BZZZZ, wrong.  Out of the mouth of Mrs. Crisp: "If Bill Gates is such a philanthropist, (he should) take this game off the market, save some children and families from the horrific experience I’ve had,”

Source: http://www.georginaadvocate.com/News/Regional%20News/article/83309

 

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

Okay, good find, but you took that out of context: she's making that statement in an effort to keep the Xbox Live community from wreaking more havoc (as she believes the case to be)...I don't feel that she has an issue with the game itself, just with the people who play it online:

“This is a huge wake-up call for me and other parents with all these Internet games,” said Brandon’s mother Angelika Crisp. “We know it’s dangerous but don’t know how complex they are.

Basically, if the game in question was a single-player game, then I don't think they'd be bringing it up, because they apparently believe that Brandon is with other gamers that he met through Live.

So nice try, and good looking out. But I stand by that they never outright have blamed the game...they are blaming the gamers, and rightly so.

All many people know of gamers is the comments that we make on GamePolitics, Amazon, FoxNews.com, etc, which -- sad to say -- are often ignorant and juvenile.

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

Actually it sounds like you are the one taking it out of context.  Or more appropirately, trying to twist the context to fit your paradigm.  The community has not been mentioned.  But what has been mentioned is her desire for the physical game disc to not be sold.  Ergo even if the game is no longer sold that would not remove the community from the equation.  Therefore she is trying to find a scapegoat for shitty parenting and blaming the game.  Otherwise why want it taken off the market?

And as far as the comments go.  I find the most ignorant ones coming from either the parents or from fools such as exgamer.net

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

Everyone's entitled to their opinion, I suppose, but it's insane how many gamers get their panties in a wad over this woman's silly remarks, and don't focus on the REAL problem.

Who cares if game companies get sued? McDonald's gets sued all the time; I still eat there.

It's just mind-boggling how so many people will take a story like this, start preaching SELF-ACCOUNTABILITY, and then flash Obama "Spread the Wealth" stickers everywhere...

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

...Right.  Well at this point all I can say is: Stay on target.  The Presidential campaigns are a whole different ball of wax.

But what I see is the biggest problem is that the people directly involved, the parents the police, massacare chasers are not focusing on the real problem and instead have to beat a scapegoat.

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

Then you're seeing wrong. There may be an element of finger-pointing behind the scenes, but we're not seeing it. Have the parents filed a lawsuit? No. Have they even discarded Brandon's copy of the game? Probably not.

All I see are a couple of parents at their wits' end, and they're using every last stretch -- logical or not -- in a last-ditch effort to find their child. You would, too.

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

"You would, too."

No, I would take personal responsibility and realize that my child needs therapy of some kind.  What I wouldn't do is put the blame on some inanimate object and say that by removing it from the market such mental problems would magically dissappear.

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

That statement also just goes to show you how out of touch these particular parents are.  They act as if Bill Gates is responsible for COD4 being on the market.

I still have issues with the idea that this was COD4 since his parents are adamant this kid was playing the game for 2+ years and COD4 only came out last Nov.  But that's a whole other issue.

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

Wonder why EZk, or Den, Didnt ban Thommy Boy, Cause He is starting to be a real forum troll here, And pupkin sucked Thompson, Just like your career.

Magic Taco

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

there is a ban. He re-registers with new user names... And yet, gamers are the ones who are obsessed?

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

Didn’t see you’d banned him.  I’m back around a bit Dennis, things slowed down at the whole day job lol.– Toll   

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

 Can't you IP ban him like you did a while back?

 

If you don't have something in your hosting software to allow you to do it, I'd happily write up a little PHP code for you to use that will have the same effect.  Just lemme know.

 

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

Yes we can, but the commonality of proxies makes that hard to enforce as well.

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Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

maybe we should point out that proxies are like burglar's tools and that breaking and entering is not covered by the first amendment.

it might just be easier to find out what the *chans use to block proxies

岩「…Ace beats Jack」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

 I can look into that if you like.  I'd like nothing better than to see JT struck completely impotent.

Just let me know.

 

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

Starting to be?

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

http://www.myspace.com/hermoinefan_420 (and boom goes the dynamite)

 

 

damn nightwing i love reading ur posts now man....what a way to own jacky boy

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

John Bruce, you're a sick sociopath.  You've actually admitted that you knowingly and intentionally interferred and manipulated the police investigation and search for Brandon, thereby possibly endangering his life further.

Your character has spoken quite well on your REAL concern for human life.

An individual who mocks the suicides of several individuals.

An individual who actually tried to place a kid playing a violent video game as being far worse than that kid having been verbally, mentally, physically, and nearly sexually abused.

An individual who tried to take advantage of the tragedy at NIU by offering to spout your agenda, then turning around and threatening to sue the college if they didn't turn over computer evidence to you.

An individual who knowingly and intentionally lied to and deceived government officials, including the FTC by falsely and fraudulently claiming there was "gay sex" in a particular video game when there was, in fact, NO sex whatsoever.  (PROVING that your character considers lies and deceit to be "moral".)

An individual who claimed to have attempted to interfere and manipulate the Robida case, which, turned out to be false and then, when proven false, you attempted to have the DA arrested because he didn't do things YOUR way.

And shall we get on this "fascist" bit you keep spouting?  An individual who repeatedly calls others fascist but who, himself, states that those who even verbally (even in writing) oppose his stance should be legally put to death.

On the issue of Brandon, there has been a lot of comment around his internet friends.  It appears he may have attempted to find one of them, or at least someone offline to hide with.  It was clear he attempted to travel a distance since he took his bike, which was reportedly found.

Since he considered leaving his home to be rational, it's entirely possible that he may have considered other acts which, normally, would have not been considered good ideas and tried them.  Especially in his emotional state.  It's entirely possible that he hitched a ride, even with a stranger.

Unfortunately, with John Bruce manipulating the investigation, that possibility may not be considered.

Nightwng2000

NW2K Software

Nightwng2000 has also updated his MySpace page: http://www.myspace.com/nightwing2000 Nightwng2000 is now admin to the group "Parents For Education, Not Legislation" on MySpace as http://groups.myspace.com/pfenl

Nightwng2000 NW2K Software http://www.facebook.com/nightwing2000 Nightwng2000 is now admin to the group "Parents For Education, Not Legislation" on MySpace as http://groups.myspace.com/pfenl

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

Sorry Jack, you're the fascist here. The fact that you don't realize that does not make it untrue. Oh, and the mere fact that law enforcement contacted you does not mean you're in anyway a reputable/credible man. It only means that they failed to learn more about exactly what kind of man you are beforehand.

~Pre-October 25, 2008: Jack Thompson, Asshole Attorney

  Post-October 25, 2008: Jack Thompson, Asshole

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

http://www.myspace.com/hermoinefan_420 (and boom goes the dynamite)

 

wow no posts from him yet...hmmm maybe he gave up and wont come back again?? naaa we cant get that lucky

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

you know in all honesty (and with all due respect) if dennis wanted to he could ban every user name that began with c just because

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

Great to see Microsoft helping out when they can

 

shame that we are the only ones who really know about what Jack Thompson does while the mainstream media still does not know about his disbarment.

 

 

TBoneTony

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

http://www.myspace.com/hermoinefan_420 (and boom goes the dynamite)

 

 

 

 

wow so it is like the old gp days when jack would throw a tantram and make a new name and then get banned again...ahhh memories

 

so its official he lost his license??

 

 

 

 

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

Yes.  Though he expects to be able to get it back in a Federal case.  Though he also thought he was going to be able to get Penny Arcade arrested for donating to charity, or have police officers remove games from the shelves in Califonia, or get Norm Kent in trouble by submitting porn to a court, or prevent Bully from coming out, or prevent Manhunt 2 from coming out, or prevent Grand Theft Auto 4 from coming out, or sue Kotaku, or have Judge Tunis removed from the bench, etc etc etc.

Basicly this is no different from any of his past posturing and will also end in failure.  Its just so sad that his pattern recognition is so underdeveloped that he just can't see it.  I guess all that gay porn fried his frontal lobes.

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

And I speak truth not lies which your a expert Jack.

When Life gives you lemons, you find a new god.

When Life gives you lemons, you find a new god.

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

Congratulations You've admitted defeat... with that we can now rest since your pretty much useless.

When Life gives you lemons, you find a new god.

When Life gives you lemons, you find a new god.

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

 Jack's throwing another tantrum like the devilish little child he is at heart.  How sad.  How predictable.

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

http://www.myspace.com/hermoinefan_420 (and boom goes the dynamite)

 

 


 

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FOR YOUR
 
HITLER
 
YOUTH
 
RALLY"
 
 

 

 

wait what???? i'm beyond lost??? what the hell was up with that

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

Well its hard to understand without first understanding that Jack is likely off his meds.  But you see he thinks that by having media banned he is protecting the First Amendment.  And by defending media we are against the First Amendment. 

Don't think about it too hard though, Jack's illogic is not to be understood by a functional mind.

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

Two things that Jack Thompson and Don Imus have in common.


They are both old and they don't know when to quit while they are ahead.

*rimshot*

Ba dum dum.

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

At what point was Jack ever ahead?

"There is no sin except stupidity." - Oscar Wilde

"De minimus non curat lex"

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

Well he isn't in jail for harassment.  Thats ahead......for someone with his mentality. 

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

Okay people, we need to stop attacking Jack Thompson. The group on Facebook has been wanred not to trust Jack Thompson and that he is disbarred. The minute I heard this news this morning, I posted it up on that group.

And stop pointing fingers at each other. First of all, let's try and fin this kid. Then we can whine and complain at the causes later on/

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

Why does this make sense?

~You Could Be Mine, But You're Way Out Of Line..~

~You Could Be Mine, But You're Way Out Of Line..~

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

Because I had a dear friend of mine who went and disappeared 8 months ago and there was blame that was pointed between the parents and counsellors of the university she went to, Carleton/

When we're all pointing fingers at each other like this, we waste time. When we try and figure out the reasons of disappearance, we waste time. It was too late regardless for my friend, she fell through the ice at the Rideau Canal, but there's still hope for this kid.

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

What if, as I suspect is true, the parents are the ones who know where their child really is?  The longer we wait to begin questioning their involvement, the less likely the chance of seeing justice done are.  Don't let one incident color your opinion; think rationally.  There is no time for emotion here, not yet.

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

still childish and clueless as ever eh jackie boy??? The whole deal with microsoft is not an admission of guilt(what are they guilty of, making fps games, last I checked thats ont a crime nor is selling the game.)Microsoft is willing to help with the investigation to find this boy, It has nothing to do with guilt. just cause the game industry willing to offer help to find this boy.

You see, you live in your own fantasy world, you seem to think that you are winning but alas, you are losing, you have been disbarred from practicing law for good. Face it and quit before you embarass yourself even further.

Attention Jack Thompson

As of right now, you have just declared war. Here's what I'm going to tell you right now.

BACK

THE

FUCK

OFF

And one more thing

I declare war againsts you.

 

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

i doubt that the finacial situation of take-two has anything too do with you Mr.jack thompson X-attorney in florida

Shobidoo, the hardcore gamer

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

Does anything have anything to do with Jackie Boy?

~You Could Be Mine, But You're Way Out Of Line..~

~You Could Be Mine, But You're Way Out Of Line..~

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

Well, I hate to bring his family into this, but for his own sanity's sake, his son's existence had better have something to do with him....  =/


------------------------------------------------------------------------ Oooh! You mean there are people around with the mythical "Common Sense"?

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

By the way, Microsoft's pledge of a reward is quite the admission of guilt.  Apparently the pr dept won in the fight with the legal department at Microsoft over the reward issue.  Look for the jury to hear this.

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

You utter moron.

 

You do realise microsoft didnt develop or publish the game right?

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

In reality, it's quite the stretch.  In practice, plaintiff lawyers love to pull things out of context to say something is an admission of guilt.  If car companies become aware that some behavior is dangerous, and going forward they put a warning in owner's manuals not to do that behavior, it would seem like they're trying to prevent accidents and improve safety.  But to the plaintiff bar it's a sign that they knew about the original hazard but chose to cut costs by not saying anything about it until faced with lawsuits.


Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

Keep telling yourself that, He-Man...

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

gAt least Microsotf is actually trying to help, unlike you.

And if yo udo break your current ban recor,d I'll submit the paperwork to Guiness. That way, hehe, you'll at least be known for how hard you keep failing.

Re: Microsoft Adds $25K to Missing Gamer Reward Fund

By the way, Microsoft's pledge of a reward is quite the admission of guilt.

is that why you never donated any money to a good cause?

岩「…Ace beats Jack」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

 
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