If you thought being permanently disbarred would cause Jack Thompson to ride off into the sunset, guess again.
The ex-attorney is currently seeing fire and damnation in Bethesda's recent recall of Fallout 3 trailer videos. A rambling letter from Thompson to the Federal Trade Commission accuses the ESRB of duplicity in the enforcement of its advertising guidelines:
The ESRB’s [advertising] Principles and Guidelines are not intended to protect the public. They are obviously intended to protect the video game industry from the public backlash prior to a hyperviolent game’s commercial release. The ESRB, by allowing such violence in games but not in the advertising is institutionally mandating the cloaking of a game’s real content from the public in advertising.
Thus, the ESRB is actively using its “watchdog” muscle to intimidate game developers into participating in the ESRB’s long-standing shell game by which it has tried to hoodwink Congress and the American people into thinking that the video game rating system is working, that the ratings are reliable, and that minors are being protected from the sale of “Mature” games...
And, even though Take-Two has zilch to do with Fallout 3, Thompson cannot resist taking a shot at the GTA publisher:
Take-Two, for example, knows that if it adhered to “truth in advertising,” most of its Grand Theft Auto games never would have made it out of the warehouse. Take-Two has figured out how to collaborate with the ESRB in this shell game by which false advertising cloaks the real nature of their games until the games are released, and then it is too late...
Bethesda’s only sin was that it advertised truthfully what its game Fallout 3 is all about. The ESRB’s idiotic but telling response has fashioned a noose that I expect either the FTC or Congress to slip around the ESRB’s neck...
Full letter after the jump...
William E. Kovacic, Chairman
Federal Trade Commission 600 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW Washington, DC20580 Fax to 202-xxx-xxxx
Re:Fraudulent and Deceptive Advertising Mandated by the Entertainment Software
Rating Board (ESRB)
Dear Chairman Kovacic:
The video game industry became embroiled in yet another controversy this week that reveals the patent fraud and deception actively engaged in by its Entertainment Software Rating Board.This requires swift action by the FTC to end this ongoing fraud by the ESRB.If the FTC does not act, Congress will: Please note:
Yesterday video game developer Bethesda released a hyperviolent game called Fallout 3.It is rated “Mature” by the ESRB, and its ESRB descriptor states that the game contains the following content: [graphics of Fallout 3 content descriptors]
Prior to this game’s release, Bethesda provided “trailers” for the game that correctly and accurately depict the content in the game, including slow motion exploding of heads.
The ESRB, aware of the truthful content in these trailers, threatened Bethesda with punishment for alleged violation of its Advertising Principles and Guidelines through the ESRB’s Advertising Review Council.As a result, Bethesda, in a panic, then asked video game sites to whom it gave the advertising trailers to remove the trailers.Bear with me, please, because now we come to the patent fraud by the ESRB that may amount to criminal activity, proof of which isfound at http://www.esrb.org/ratings/principles_guidlines.jsp.The relevant portions of the ESRB ARC Principles and Guidelines are underscored below:
PRINCIPLES
An advertisement should accurately reflect the nature and content of the product it represents and the rating issued (i.e., an advertisement should not mislead the consumer as to the product’s true character).
An advertisement should not glamorize or exploit the ESRB rating of a product.
All advertisements should be created with a sense of responsibility toward the public.
No advertisement should contain any content that is likely to cause serious or widespread offense to the average consumer.
Companies must not specifically target advertising for entertainment software products rated “Teen,” “Mature” or “Adults Only” to consumers for whom the product is not rated as appropriate.
GUIDELINES
In applying the above Principles when evaluating advertisements, ARC will focus on the following core Guidelines. The scope and weight of each Guideline shall vary on a case-by-case basis in accordance with the demographic for which each product and its associated advertising, is intended and in relation to the advertising medium involved. While the Principles set forth the scope of ARC’s review, the Guidelines are general parameters intended to further assist companies in providing responsible, appropriate, and accurate advertising. These Guidelines are not intended to restrict or impede creative and/or innovative advertising. Rather, the following areas merely highlight certain types of content that publishers should avoid when creating advertisements.
1. ESRB Ratings and Truth and Accuracy in Advertising
Misrepresentations regarding the character and/or rating of a product
Inaccurate or false content
Exploitation of an ESRB rating
2. Violence
Graphic and/or excessive depictions of violence
Graphic and/or violent depictions of the use of weapons
Graphic and/or excessive depictions of blood and/or gore
Here, then, is the problem that amounts to fraud:The ESRB seeks to enforce two mutually exclusive advertising Principles and Guidelines, and it is doing so in order to hide, as opposed to reveal, the true content of games from the public, most notably parents.
More specifically, the trailers for Fallout 3 in fact comply with Principle #1, above, in that they “accurately reflect the nature and content of the product it represents and the rating issued.”The trailers show the exploding heads in the game.They show the violence that is the hallmark of the game.As the narrator in the following trailer states, the exploding heads “never get old.”See http://www.gamepolitics.com/2008/10/28/eve-launch-fallout-3-trailer-unexpectedly-yanked
However, the ESRB, at the same time that it supposedly mandates “truth in advertising” mandates adherence to a completely contradictory Principle #4: “No advertisement should contain any content that is likely to cause serious or widespread offense to the average consumer.”
The ESRB cannot insist upon both Principle 1 and Principle 4.Either advertising must be truthful as to what is really in the game, or ads cannot cause offense.The ESRB can’t have it both ways.Proof of the disharmony in these two Principles is that the ESRB strong armed Bethesda into pulling the trailers precisely because they were accurate as to the content in the game.
Look then at the disharmony also in the ESRB “Guidelines” as well, above:Under Guideline #1, there must not be “Misrepresentations regarding the character and/or rating of a product” or“Inaccurate or false content,” in the advertising, but Guideline #2 mandates that game advertising shall not contain “Graphic and/or excessive depictions of violence” or “Graphic and/or violent depictions of the use of weapons” or “Graphic and/or excessive depictions of blood and/or gore.”
Wait a minute.If the advertising for Fallout 3 is to be truthful and accurate it MUST reveal the endemic and high levels in the game of blood and gore, the graphic and violent use of weapons, and the graphic depictions of violence!
Let me then conclude by pointing out the obvious:The ESRB’s Principles and Guidelines are not intended to protect the public.They are obviously intended to protect the video game industry from the public backlash prior to a hyperviolent game’s commercial release.The ESRB, by allowing such violence in games but not in the advertising is institutionally mandating the cloaking of a game’s real content from the public in advertising.
Thus, the ESRB is actively using its “watchdog” muscle to intimidate game developers into participating in the ESRB’s long-standing shell game by which it has tried to hoodwink Congress and the American people into thinking that the video game rating system is working, that the ratings are reliable, and that minors are being protected from the sale of “Mature” games.Nothing could be further from the truth.The ESRB is in fact mandating false advertising to protect the industry and the ESRB/ESA as well.
The current uproar over Fallout 3 and the above examination of its two totally contradictory sets of Principles and Guidelines prove that the ESRB is simply a video gameindustry that is fraudulently facilitating the sale of inappropriate interactive sex and violence to minors in violation of federal and state RICO and Fraudulent and Deceptive Trade Practices laws.Take-Two, for example, knows that if it adhered to “truth in advertising,” most of its Grand Theft Auto games never would have made it out of the warehouse.Take-Two has figured out how to collaborate with the ESRB in this shell game by which false advertising cloaks the real nature of their games until the games are released, and then it is too late.
I call upon the FTC to act today to end this fraudulent, illegal charade by the ESRB.If there is to be “truth in advertising” then game advertising must accurately reflect what is in the games sold.
Bethesda’s only sin was that it advertised truthfully what its game Fallout 3 is all about.The ESRB’s idiotic but telling response has fashioned a noose that I expect either the FTC or Congress to slip around the ESRB’s neck.Please do so.If you don’t, I shall.
Submitted by BearDogg-X on Thu, 10/30/2008 - 14:24.
Plus, Kevin Smith successfully got the MPAA to change the rating from NC-17 to R.
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Submitted by sortableturnip on Thu, 10/30/2008 - 13:23.
Every company that makes a mature rated game is evil in JT's eyes....
"It's the devil's work!"
Meanwhile, his rants are free advertising for the game...
Sortableturnip's Law: As an online discussion of video game violence grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Jack Thompson approaches 1
Submitted by Mnementh2230 on Thu, 10/30/2008 - 13:22.
"The current uproar over Fallout 3 and the above examination of its two totally contradictory sets of Principles and Guidelines prove that the ESRB is simply a video gameindustry that is fraudulently facilitating the sale of inappropriate interactive sex and violence to minors in violation of federal and state RICO and Fraudulent and Deceptive Trade Practices laws."
As far as I know, there's no real uproar over the game. It's labeled as "mature", and as such should really only be played by adults. If parents are getting it for their kids, or if kids are playing it , the parents are to blame. The ESRB rating is still accurate.
Further, principles 1 and 4 are not mutually exclusive. You can allude to a lot of violence without showing it. You can show some violence without being extremely graphic. by doing this, you satisfy both requirements - the ads are truthful, and yet not likely to offend most people. The fact that JT doesn't have the imagination required to figure this out is not a stunning revelation.
Submitted by transformergirl on Thu, 10/30/2008 - 13:17.
...huh? I'm confused...I thought he'd be glad an ad like this had been pulled (you know, stopping the word about a violent videogame). Now he's complaining about it?
Can you imagine this guy trying to explain it to you in person? It'd be a lot of "Okay, stay with me here..." and "SO if you think of it like THIS...". And probably a little bit of "Am I right or what?" thrown in for good measure.
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"Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor, and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Breeds that forget this basic truth have always paid for it with their lives and freedom
from now on, i declare all of Thompsons "or i will" statements to be obvious threats full of malice and obvious intents of harm towards persons other than himself.
Jack Thompson just threatened to hang Patricia Vance.
Submitted by sortableturnip on Thu, 10/30/2008 - 13:25.
Jack's more like the black knight in Monty Python's the Holy Grail...
"Come back here you yellow belly bastards!!! I'll bite your legs off!!!!"
Sortableturnip's Law: As an online discussion of video game violence grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Jack Thompson approaches 1
Submitted by sortableturnip on Thu, 10/30/2008 - 13:56.
Do not publish Fallout 3 or I will taunt you a second time!!!!
Sortableturnip's Law: As an online discussion of video game violence grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Jack Thompson approaches 1
Submitted by Gabriel Celesta on Thu, 10/30/2008 - 18:35.
What... is your name?
"Jack Thompson."
What... is your quest?
"I seek the death of the video game industry..." (insert hours and hours of BS about murder simulators, school shootings, evil conspiracies, brain scans, direct causal links, 60 Minutes, his book, etc., etc., etc., etc...) "HOOAH!"
Submitted by Vake Xeacons on Thu, 10/30/2008 - 16:41.
He's actually mad that the "violence-inducing" trailers were recalled. Of course, he'd have sent the [almost] exact same letter, had the trailers stayed.
No, I didn't expect Jack to disappear. In fact, stuff like this was exactly what I expected (maybe even less than I expected). But this time, he's got no one to listen to him. He's a wild dog, barking in a cage. Harmless from this distance.
Jack Thomspon... failing in epic fashion since 1977.
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"Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor, and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Breeds that forget this basic truth have always paid for it with their lives and freedom
"The most difficult pain a man can suffer is to have knowledge of much and power over little" - Herodotus
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"The most difficult pain a man can suffer is to have knowledge of much and power over little" - Herodotus
On a side note, he can't put 'Esq.' or 'Attorney at Law' with his signatures anymore, which makes me feel all squishy inside.
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"Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor, and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Breeds that forget this basic truth have always paid for it with their lives and freedom
MechaTama31: I mean, of the groups being bullied here, which of the two would you refer to collectively as "nerds"?10/19/2014 - 11:30pm
MechaTama31: But that's the thing, it doesn't sound to me like he is advocating bullying, it sounds like he is accusing the SJWs of bullying the "nerds", who I can only assume refers to the GGers.10/19/2014 - 11:21pm
Andrew Eisen: Interesting read. Unfortunately, too vague to form an opinion on but at least now I know what faefrost was talking about in James' editorial.10/19/2014 - 10:39pm
Neo_DrKefka: Breaking GameJournoPros organized a blacklist of former Destructoid writer Allistar Pinsof for investigating fraud in IndieGoGo campaign http://blogjob.com/oneangrygamer/2014/10/gamergate-destructoid-corruption-and-ruined-careers/10/19/2014 - 8:57pm
Neo_DrKefka: Only good thing I seen come out of the Biddle incident was the fact a professional fighter offered to give 10k to an anti bullying charity for a round in the ring with Biddle.10/19/2014 - 7:49pm
Neo_DrKefka: Even after all the interviews she is still on twitter making fun of people with disabilities (Autism) yet she is a part of the crowd that is on the so called right side of history...10/19/2014 - 7:48pm
Neo_DrKefka: Which #GameGate supports are constantly being harassed and bullied. Brianna Wu who I told everyone she was trolling GamerGate weeks ago with her passive aggressive threats was looking for that crazy person in the crowd.10/19/2014 - 7:47pm
Neo_DrKefka: I believe the problem #GamerGate has with Sam Biddle is he is apart of this blogging group that in a way hates or detests its readers. Also being apart of the crowd that claims its on the right side of history isn't helping when he is advocating bullying10/19/2014 - 7:45pm
MechaTama31: Of course, I'm looking at these tweets in isolation, I don't know a thing about the guy.10/19/2014 - 7:06pm
MechaTama31: If anything, the sarcastic implication seems to be that the SJW crowd is bringing back the bullying of nerds. But it's the GGers who are out for his blood? I'm lost...10/19/2014 - 7:01pm
MechaTama31: I don't really get this Sam Biddle thing. The reaction to his tweets seems to be taking them at face value, but... they're tongue in cheek. Right?10/19/2014 - 7:00pm
Andrew Eisen: I have it. The problem, so far as I can tell, is neither of them allow me to overlay my webcam feed or text links to my Extra-Life fundraising page.10/19/2014 - 4:08pm
quiknkold: and yes, its free10/19/2014 - 4:05pm
quiknkold: should grab Hauppauge capture. has mic support and can upload directly to youtube10/19/2014 - 4:05pm
Andrew Eisen: The former.10/19/2014 - 4:00pm
quiknkold: was it StreamEez, or the StreamEez feature in Hauppauge Capture? cause I know Capture has alot more support from the devs.10/19/2014 - 3:54pm
Andrew Eisen: I actually tried StreamEez last week. Flat out didn't work.10/19/2014 - 3:53pm
quiknkold: I use the Hauppauge Capture software's StreamEez. Arcsoft showbiz for recording. I just streamed a few hours of Persona 4 Golden with zero problem using the program. Xsplit is finniky when it comes to Hauppauge10/19/2014 - 3:40pm
Andrew Eisen: Trying to capture console games and broadcast with Open Broadcaster System because I've had technical difficulties using XSplit 3 weeks in a row.10/19/2014 - 3:37pm
quiknkold: and what are you trying to capture?10/19/2014 - 3:31pm
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Re: Jack Thompson Wades Into Fallout 3 Trailer Controversy
So did I, LOL!
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Re: Jack Thompson Wades Into Fallout 3 Trailer Controversy
To your PS. My thoughts exactly.
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Re: Jack Thompson Whines Over Fallout 3 Trailer; Boredom Ensues
Plus, Kevin Smith successfully got the MPAA to change the rating from NC-17 to R.
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Re: Jack Thompson Wades Into Fallout 3 Trailer Controversy
I've noticed the commercials have started calling it simply "Zack and Miri".
Re: Jack Thompson Wades Into Fallout 3 Trailer Controversy
From what I've gathered that's not the doing of the MPAA. It's the call of the TV stations and newspapers running the ads.
Andrew Eisen
Re: Jack Thompson Wades Into Fallout 3 Trailer Controversy
it's shorter to say when you have 30 seconds to say something. i suspect it's less about the Porno than just time issues.
Here are we -- and yonder yawns the universe.
Re: Jack Thompson Wades Into Fallout 3 Trailer Controversy
Not a bad theory but that doesn't appear to be the case in this instance.
Read all about it.
Andrew Eisen
Re: Jack Thompson Wades Into Fallout 3 Trailer Controversy
At least he's consistent.
Re: Jack Thompson Wades Into Fallout 3 Trailer Controversy
Oh now I HAVE to get Fallout 3.
---You are likely to be eaten by a Grue.
Re: Jack Thompson Wades Into Fallout 3 Trailer Controversy
My 360 is broken! My PC sucks! GAAAAHHH!
Re: Jack Thompson Wades Into Fallout 3 Trailer Controversy
It is amazing!
Re: Jack Thompson Wades Into Fallout 3 Trailer Controversy
Yes you fucking do.
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Re: Jack Thompson Wades Into Fallout 3 Trailer Controversy
Seconded!
Re: Jack Thompson Wades Into Fallout 3 Trailer Controversy
I was definitely going to get it before this, but I was going to wait until I got a PS3, so that I had that whole thing behind me.
But now I HAVE to stop my careful saving and pick this thing up.
---You are likely to be eaten by a Grue.
Re: Jack Thompson Wades Into Fallout 3 Trailer Controversy
Good Luck with that Jack. You will fail as you already have so many times. Thats's all I'm going to say.
Re: Jack Thompson Wades Into Fallout 3 Trailer Controversy
Every company that makes a mature rated game is evil in JT's eyes....
"It's the devil's work!"
Meanwhile, his rants are free advertising for the game...
Re: Jack Thompson Wades Into Fallout 3 Trailer Controversy
"Every company that makes a game is evil in JT's eyes...."
Fixed. Remember, he went after a fast food restaurant because they sold MARIO toys...
Re: Jack Thompson Wades Into Fallout 3 Trailer Controversy
"If you don’t, I shall."
Ooooh, so scary. Because he's been SUPER-Effective doing so in the past....
Re: Jack Thompson Wades Into Fallout 3 Trailer Controversy
"The current uproar over Fallout 3 and the above examination of its two totally contradictory sets of Principles and Guidelines prove that the ESRB is simply a video game industry that is fraudulently facilitating the sale of inappropriate interactive sex and violence to minors in violation of federal and state RICO and Fraudulent and Deceptive Trade Practices laws."
As far as I know, there's no real uproar over the game. It's labeled as "mature", and as such should really only be played by adults. If parents are getting it for their kids, or if kids are playing it , the parents are to blame. The ESRB rating is still accurate.
Further, principles 1 and 4 are not mutually exclusive. You can allude to a lot of violence without showing it. You can show some violence without being extremely graphic. by doing this, you satisfy both requirements - the ads are truthful, and yet not likely to offend most people. The fact that JT doesn't have the imagination required to figure this out is not a stunning revelation.
Re: Jack Thompson Wades Into Fallout 3 Trailer Controversy
...huh? I'm confused...I thought he'd be glad an ad like this had been pulled (you know, stopping the word about a violent videogame). Now he's complaining about it?
Re: Jack Thompson Wades Into Fallout 3 Trailer Controversy
Can you imagine this guy trying to explain it to you in person? It'd be a lot of "Okay, stay with me here..." and "SO if you think of it like THIS...". And probably a little bit of "Am I right or what?" thrown in for good measure.
Re: Jack Thompson Wades Into Fallout 3 Trailer Controversy
from now on, i declare all of Thompsons "or i will" statements to be obvious threats full of malice and obvious intents of harm towards persons other than himself.
Jack Thompson just threatened to hang Patricia Vance.
Here are we -- and yonder yawns the universe.
Re: Jack Thompson Wades Into Fallout 3 Trailer Controversy
Jack's more like the black knight in Monty Python's the Holy Grail...
"Come back here you yellow belly bastards!!! I'll bite your legs off!!!!"
Re: Jack Thompson Wades Into Fallout 3 Trailer Controversy
Monty: You got no arm!
Jack: Tis nothing but a flesh wound.
hahaha
Sorry it was too good to pass up
Re: Jack Thompson Wades Into Fallout 3 Trailer Controversy
Do not publish Fallout 3 or I will taunt you a second time!!!!
Re: Jack Thompson Wades Into Fallout 3 Trailer Controversy
I fart in Jack Thompson's general direction! His father is a hamster and his mother smells of elderberries!
Re: Jack Thompson Wades Into Fallout 3 Trailer Controversy
What... is your name?
"Jack Thompson."
What... is your quest?
"I seek the death of the video game industry..." (insert hours and hours of BS about murder simulators, school shootings, evil conspiracies, brain scans, direct causal links, 60 Minutes, his book, etc., etc., etc., etc...) "HOOAH!"
What... is your favorite color?
"Blue.
"No -- YELLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWW........"
Re: Jack Thompson Wades Into Fallout 3 Trailer Controversy
You have ativated my ROFLCOPTER. Congratulatoins.
Re: Jack Thompson Wades Into Fallout 3 Trailer Controversy
Video games show violence in their trailors:
JT"It's a god awful game. That murder simulator is using violence in their trailors to make money! They're evil!"
Video game does not show violence in their trailor:
JT "Video games are trying to cloak their murder simulators to make money! They're evil!"
Nothing to see here... move along.
Re: Jack Thompson Wades Into Fallout 3 Trailer Controversy
What's up he this time?
Re: Jack Thompson Wades Into Fallout 3 Trailer Controversy
He's actually mad that the "violence-inducing" trailers were recalled. Of course, he'd have sent the [almost] exact same letter, had the trailers stayed.
No, I didn't expect Jack to disappear. In fact, stuff like this was exactly what I expected (maybe even less than I expected). But this time, he's got no one to listen to him. He's a wild dog, barking in a cage. Harmless from this distance.
Re: Jack Thompson Wades Into Fallout 3 Trailer Controversy
Jack Thomspon... failing in epic fashion since 1977.
Re: Jack Thompson Wades Into Fallout 3 Trailer Controversy
Pure awesome sauce!
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Re: Jack Thompson Wades Into Fallout 3 Trailer Controversy
I was going to say something but you just said it so much better.
~You Could Be Mine, But You're Way Out Of Line..~
Re: Jack Thompson Wades Into Fallout 3 Trailer Controversy
On a side note, he can't put 'Esq.' or 'Attorney at Law' with his signatures anymore, which makes me feel all squishy inside.