Report: Bad Behavior in EA Forums will Lock You Out of Game You Bought

October 30, 2008 -

There is a report floating around on Kotaku and other sites that getting yourself banned from EA's forums will also lock you out of your EA PC games. You know, the ones that you bought with your hard-earned cash.

The issue seems to be a claim by an EA community manager for C&C Red Alert 3 that forum accounts are mystically linked to one's master EA acocunt. Here's the post:

Your forum account will be directly tied to your Master EA Account, so if we ban you on the forums, you would be banned from the game as well since the login process is the same. And you'd actually be banned from your other EA games as well since its all tied to your account. So if you have SPORE and Red Alert 3 and you get yourself banned on our forums or in-game, well, your SPORE account would be banned to. It's all one in the same, so I strongly recommend people play nice and act mature.

 

All in all, we expect people to come on here and abide by our ToS. We hate banning people, it makes our lives a lot tougher, but its what we have to do.

Those banned will stay banned, but like most other internet services, its not that hard to create a new fake e-mail account. However, its a lot harder to get a new serial key =

GP: I'm not sure that I buy this one.

Thinking back to the confusion over whether Dead Space was or was not banned in three countries, that misinformation came from EA community managers as well. Are these guys paid employees, or are they loose-lipped volunteers?

Either way, someone at EA needs to sit on them because they are spewing questionable information that is annoying the customer base.

And, even if this is true, it can't be legal.

UPDATE: GameCyte is now calling this just a bad rumor:

EA has taken the time today to definitively squash this rumor. “Players who have been banned from EA Forums are not automatically banned from online access to their other EA games,” an EA representative told GameCyte.

 

“Posting in EA Forums is enabled by an EA Nucleus account — but access to the forums and access to the games are separate.”


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Re: Report: Bad Behavior in EA Forums will Lock You Out of Game

Heh, GP has a "WTF" tag.  That's awesome.

 

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Re: Report: Bad Behavior in EA Forums will Lock You Out of Game

I saw that too. It's when even dennis has no clue what to make of it,

Re: Report: Bad Behavior in EA Forums will Lock You Out of Game

once again, EA mishandles another issue and it pisses everyone off

then again, we really shouldn't be suprised by EA for supposedly doing something so idiotic like this

Re: Report: Bad Behavior in EA Forums will Lock You Out of Game

Meh.  So being a little shithead online has real life conesquences.  Tell me why I should give a crap.  If you buy sports tickets (for typically more than $60), and act like a disruptive tool, you run the risk of getting tossed and being out the ticket price. 

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Re: Report: Bad Behavior in EA Forums will Lock You Out of Game

Not exactly. Since you're not being a dick in the game, you're being a dick on the forums, and then losing your access to the game. Sure the forum ban is fine, and warranted, but losing access to your game in unecessary. I think a better way to describe it would be acting like a dick at a sports game, and not only being tossed out, but having any Pay-Per-View subscriptions you had going for the sports game revoked as well.

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Re: Report: Bad Behavior in EA Forums will Lock You Out of Game

Do they prevent you from watching the game on TV? Or playing the sport?

I can understand banning online play. It happens, and there are people out there that make the game worse. Like most of the Halo players I've run into over Xbox Live (not to say every Halo player is an jerk (using a polite term), there are bound to be more polite people), I'd rather not play with them. However, banning someone from even playing single player, or LAN, isn't within their rights (although, if this banning thing is true, they probably put a clause in the Terms of Agreement to be total A-holes). We bought the game for personal enjoyment.

I agree that there are those people that should just get booted every time they enter a match... But they money to at least enjoy the game by himself or herself.

Re: Report: Bad Behavior in EA Forums will Lock You Out of Game

Not being able to play single player without an online log-in is a separate issue.  I agree with you there.  But both Red Alert and Spore are mostly online, and acting like a horsedong and getting banned from a forum is a likely indicator to acting that way in-game. 

I fail to see where in the EA online TOS you can get banned for posting legitmate concerns and criticism when presented in a rational way.  If that was the case, the real story shoud be, "Users Get Banned for Airing Legit Concerns!"  I don't see it.

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Re: Report: Bad Behavior in EA Forums will Lock You Out of Game

um, no. Spore is not an online game.  it's a single player game.

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Re: Report: Bad Behavior in EA Forums will Lock You Out of Game

There is an online component, even if it is just sharing creatures.  If not, I said that blocking the single player portion is an issue, but this is true of other games, and needs to be addressed universally.  This is not exclusively EA's doing (Hello, Steam).

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Re: Report: Bad Behavior in EA Forums will Lock You Out of Game

Exactly. Same with these “Stop the bloodshed in Iraq" and "Equal representation for homosexuals" protesters that tie up traffic. They need to get the governmental ban hammer and exiled from the country.
</Sarcasm>

Seriously, this goes way beyond some douche-bag 13 year old acting like a tool on the forum. He is pretty much saying “If you criticize our company, we will strip you of several products that you legitimately purchased”. EA is, in my mind, the biggest threat to the gaming industry as a whole.
 

Re: Report: Bad Behavior in EA Forums will Lock You Out of Game

Apples and Oranges.  Try again later.

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Re: Report: Bad Behavior in EA Forums will Lock You Out of Game

Here's the rub: you COULD be banned for disagreeing with EA's DRM policies and continually making threads about it.

this isn't like going to a football game and throwing bottles on the field, this is just disagreeing with a company's unethical practises.

consider the implications.  what if you, as a computer user, complained about your OS and then were suddenly stripped of the right to use it?  what if you complained about your car and the company towed it away?

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Re: Report: Bad Behavior in EA Forums will Lock You Out of Game

Where are the reports of users being banned for legit complaints? (A la DRM).

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Re: Report: Bad Behavior in EA Forums will Lock You Out of Game

misleading question.  you can't ask for proof of victims before the crime has happened.

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Re: Report: Bad Behavior in EA Forums will Lock You Out of Game

Um, no shit.  That's exactly my point.  It hasn't happened.  I'm not going to start condemning EA for hypotheticals.  They do quite enough in reality that gives me reason to not give EA any money.

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Re: Report: Bad Behavior in EA Forums will Lock You Out of Game

what has happened is a statement that if you are banned from the forums, they are going to revoke your ability to play the EA games you own, even the single player games (Spore is DIRECTLY mentioned).

what has happened before is heavy-handed tactics from EA forum mods.

ignoring that these two items make a high liklihood for people to get screwed because they disagree with EA's policies (including this one) seems like a pretty daft move.

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Re: Report: Bad Behavior in EA Forums will Lock You Out of Game

Fair enough.  I'll admit EA draconian past tactics make this is a 'discussable' issue, hence the need for a GP article.  However, the general reaction has been to fault EA for doing this before they have, instead of disucssing it in preventative terms.  Also, while we are in hypothetical mode, I'd like a pony.

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Re: Report: Bad Behavior in EA Forums will Lock You Out of Game

i'll concede that we need to look at prevention of a sticky situation rather than grabbing the pitchforks right away.

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Re: Report: Bad Behavior in EA Forums will Lock You Out of Game

Wow if that was true it would be taking Draconian to a whole new level.

Like others have mentioned, though, I doubt it really works that way.

Re: Report: Bad Behavior in EA Forums will Lock You Out of Game

I agree that something needs to be done to reign in wild admins and moderators on their forums. You cannot make a claim like this and get away with it, at least you shouldn't be able to.

I hope this is not true. It mostly likely is not true. But if it is, there will be hell to pay by the EA gaming community.

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Re: Report: Bad Behavior in EA Forums will Lock You Out of Game

I hope it is true myself.  I want to see EA go out of business.

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Re: Report: Bad Behavior in EA Forums will Lock You Out of Game

No you don't. EA is just so big from snapping up so many smaller companies that if they went under, it could throw the entire industry into total chaos.

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Re: Report: Bad Behavior in EA Forums will Lock You Out of Game

Someone in another forum got banned a while ago on the EA forums because apparently pointing out flaws/ways game could be fixed is conspiracy

Re: Report: Bad Behavior in EA Forums will Lock You Out of Game

When I first saw this earlier today I figured it was another moderator on a powertrip like when it happened last month.  However, the post was made by EA's community manager. 

The fact that this has happened twice in just over a month seems rather telling.  First a mod on a powertrip claims he can ban access to Spore, EA quells it quickly, then a month later an actual EA employee makes the same claim.

Re: Report: Bad Behavior in EA Forums will Lock You Out of Game

The fallout from this one is going to be fun.

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Re: Report: Bad Behavior in EA Forums will Lock You Out of Game

Wasn't much attention when they made this same threat on their Spore forum that those talking about drm would have their master account killed...

Re: Report: Bad Behavior in EA Forums will Lock You Out of Game

If they lock you out of single player content, they.. are doing osmething illegal. Multiplayer content is still iffy, but slightly, ever so slightly more tolerable.

Re: Report: Bad Behavior in EA Forums will Lock You Out of Game

so I strongly recommend people play nice and act mature.

Would be their recommendation....

My personal recommendation would be "EA should act mature and give it's customers some respect" and "Customers should BE ABLE TO PLAY their nice games, so don't buy EA"

 
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