Submitted by SeanB - November 1, 2008 at 8:50 am -0500
From the linked website
"The spin of his campaign is that polls don’t matter and things are “more or less tied,” but really, is there any hope at this point?"
If McCain actually wins this thing, there's going to be a major backlash and investigation into the republicans. The numbers already showed some suspicious things in 2004, but the race was closer then. If the GOP pull a win here.... woah!
Submitted by Conejo - November 1, 2008 at 9:25 am -0500
There is absolutely no connection to the fact gas prices are plummeting right before a Republican needs a big win. please keep your tinfoil hats on and look the other way.
Submitted by Chuma - November 2, 2008 at 7:31 am -0500
Nope, it is about supply and demand. Oil prices rose on demand. They are plummeting because people have lost lots of money in the global economic crisis and cutting back on their trips, holidays, getting more fuel efficient cars etc and so oil has had to drop.
Additionally, oil prices rose exceptionally high because of speculative investment. People were buying up oil to sell at a higher price and it's a self fulfilling proficy. Once they start to hit a peak and people start to sell, the speculators quickly sell up all their stock and the price comes tumbling down again. In reality, the price should have settled at about $100/barrel but it coincided with the banking troubles and financial recession and so just kept on going.
The notion it was something to do with a conspiracy theory or Republicans trying to win an election is hillarious.
Submitted by PHOENIXZERO - November 1, 2008 at 4:26 pm -0500
Seems like according to this that perhaps the last game McCain played would be Pac Man, which is still newer than the last game Obama has said he played with Pong. >_>
Either that or it's just the last game McCain heard of. <_<
Posted 02/09/10 at 01:18pm Valdearg: I do agree that it shouldn't be legal. That's for sure.
Posted 02/09/10 at 01:16pm Andrew Eisen: Shouldn't be. Spirit of anti-discrimination laws would seem to include sexual orientation (and eye color). Plus there's always equal protection and such. Never know until you try.
Posted 02/09/10 at 01:10pm Andrew Eisen: Should have sued (unless that wasn't an option given her financial situation or something). Might have won.
Posted 02/09/10 at 01:00pm Valdearg: Story about a Male to Female TG who was expressly told she wouldn't be given a job because she was TG. Its not the main point of the story, but explicit, perfectly legal discrimination like this exists.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:53pm Valdearg: Lol, I don't know. It may very well be legal to do so. Though that might able to fall under the "race" restriction, depending on how that point is argued.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:51pm Valdearg: I don't think they do have any legal recourse. I'll have to dig around, but I seriously believe that if the law doesn't specifically mention Sexual Orientation or Gender Identity, they can still be discriminated against in those 29 states.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:51pm Andrew Eisen: Eye color isn't covered either but I doubt it would be considered legal to refuse to hire people with green eyes.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:48pm Andrew Eisen: My explanation is longer than the Shoutbox will allow. Suffice to say that while those who are discriminated against do have legal recourse, anti-discrimination law should specifically cite sexual orientation so that there’s no question about it.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:42pm Valdearg: "There is no federal law that consistently protects LGBT individuals from employment discrimination; it remains legal in 29 states, and in 38 states to do so based on gender identity or expression." From the Human Rights Campaign.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:40pm Valdearg: @AE: Why don't you think I'm correct? I know Wiki could be flawed, but as far as it says, its up to date as of June 2009.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:39pm Andrew Eisen: I don't think you're right but I really don't know and don't have the time to find out. However things actually are, it's very clear how they actually should be.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:34pm Valdearg: "just because there's no specific state level protection for it, doesn't make discrimination right or legal." I would disagree. If there's no laws against it, it makes it perfectly legal. It's definitely not right, but perfectly legal to do.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:33pm Valdearg: Meaning in 29 states, private sector discrimination against gays is perfectly legal.. Sickening.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:33pm Valdearg: 19 states have no protections, and another 10 only have protections for public sector jobs.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:32pm Andrew Eisen: Well, most businesses have equal rights policies in place and just because there's no specific state level protection for it, doesn't make discrimination right or legal. Still, no argument against adding such protections.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:28pm Valdearg: More information. Apparently, it's worse than I actually thought.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:28pm Valdearg: Check the link. Apparently, its more like 20 states that have no protections.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:26pm Andrew Eisen: In the US? Not that I'm aware of. Sad if true.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:25pm Valdearg: @AE: Actually, I think, at least for now, businesses can still discriminate against gays in a few states.. Something like 5 or 8. Its part of why Gay Rights Advocates are in support of the Employee Nondiscrimination Act, or ENDA.
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From the linked website
"The spin of his campaign is that polls don’t matter and things are “more or less tied,” but really, is there any hope at this point?"
If McCain actually wins this thing, there's going to be a major backlash and investigation into the republicans. The numbers already showed some suspicious things in 2004, but the race was closer then. If the GOP pull a win here.... woah!
What does GOP stand for?
Grand Old Party.
Which is odd, consdidering that the Republican Party is newer than the Democrat Party.
Its implying that most of the people in that party are old and out of touch :D
There is absolutely no connection to the fact gas prices are plummeting right before a Republican needs a big win. please keep your tinfoil hats on and look the other way.
Here are we -- and yonder yawns the universe.
Nope, it is about supply and demand. Oil prices rose on demand. They are plummeting because people have lost lots of money in the global economic crisis and cutting back on their trips, holidays, getting more fuel efficient cars etc and so oil has had to drop.
Additionally, oil prices rose exceptionally high because of speculative investment. People were buying up oil to sell at a higher price and it's a self fulfilling proficy. Once they start to hit a peak and people start to sell, the speculators quickly sell up all their stock and the price comes tumbling down again. In reality, the price should have settled at about $100/barrel but it coincided with the banking troubles and financial recession and so just kept on going.
The notion it was something to do with a conspiracy theory or Republicans trying to win an election is hillarious.
Shouldn't Obama be asking where the ball and paddles are?
Well, I believe they're using videogames as a metaphor for underachi... I mean, as a metaphor for being in touch with what's going on.
I see wat you did there...
Also, I think most politicians are 'out of touch' with what's going on.
Yeah, and asking where the quarters go! McCain's comment should have been more along the lines of "Where are the flippers at? TILT!"
Seems like according to this that perhaps the last game McCain played would be Pac Man, which is still newer than the last game Obama has said he played with Pong. >_>
Either that or it's just the last game McCain heard of. <_<
The guy who does that comic used to be a staff member on this website....
Oh wow.
An old white Republican and a self righteous hipster democrat. Yep this election is TOTALLY different.