Missing Gamer Found Dead

November 5, 2008 -

Toronto TV station CP-24 is reporting that missing gamer Brandon Crisp has been found dead.

From the report: 

Police have found the body of missing Barrie-area boy Brandon Crisp... He was found on Fifth Line in the Barrie area...

 

A massive search was underway for the teen in Shanty Bay on the Oro Medonte Rail Trail, just outside of Barrie, since his disappearance on Thanksgiving Day.

 

Last week, a second witness confirmed seeing Crisp on the trail the night he disappeared.

CTV spoke with Sgt. Dave Goodbrand of the Barrie Police: 

At this point we believe it to be Brandon, and we're still obviously in the early stages of our investigation, It's not confirmed because nothing's confirmed until we have pathology, but we believe it to be Brandon... [Brandon's parents are] obviously distraught by the information.

On the Facebook group Where is Brandon Crisp? some posters are saying that Brandon's body was discovered by hunters, but that is unconfirmed by police at this point. The London Free Press also reports that Brandon was found by hunters.

UPDATE: The Facebook group has been removed by its moderator, apparently over hurtful remarks being posted.

UPDATE 2: Police are now saying that they don't suspect foul play. CTV quotes Ontario Provincial Police Const. George Silvestri:

Our indication is, at this time, no foul play suspected, but of course we have to examine every possibility... There's absolutely no fear for any residents of Oro-Medonte. This is a safe community.


Comments

Re: Missing Gamer Found Dead

Looks like I'll be breaking my promise not to make any more responses here.

Let's start with the least important part: There's a difference between a study's claims and what the numbers it has truly can support in claims. On top of that these numbers don't have to be correct. You cut-and-paste links to studies, without knowing whether or not these studies are actually proper ones. A fine example has been in the GP news lately, a study which other experts immediately disagreed with due to mistakes it made from their perspective. Blind faith in studies will only serve to discredit one's position. So will stating one's position and then refusing to show any interest in the rebuttals.
There's also a difference between opinions and facts, and as much as people might believe their opinion to be fully correct, since it is an opinion anyone can disagree with it, and try to reason against it. For example, it is your opinion that there were no underlying reasons with Brandon. This may or may not be a fact, but it is an opinion for sure, just like it's an opinion of some experts that most likely there were underlying reasons.


Now for a more important part: I don't claim video games had nothing to do with what happened to Brandon. However, I refuse to believe the claim they are the one and only cause. Many others have been arguing the same thing, stating a belief in that the addiction was more a symptom than a cause. So no, many of 'us' won't "argue until the cows come home that Gaming had nothing to do with Brandon's death." It is related to the trigger, and was at the very least a symptom, and I would never deny that much, I never did in the past either.


And the most important part. You say "You are very mean people here. Cursing and swearing and calling me names. Didn't see any of you so concerned that you joined the search."

Let me start with telling I live in the Netherlands, and unfortunately I am a poor student. I cannot afford to fly over to Canada to help looking for a missing child, and even if I could, doing so only because it's a gamer and games are said to be tied to the case would be a cruel thing for me to do, it would objectivy Brandon to "a gamer" rather than the individual he was. Why would I help look for Brandon and not in other, famous or infamous, cases of missing children? Who am I to decide which of thousands of searches over time I should spend my money, time and life on? I say this because even though you might believe otherwise, my concern was in no way tied to not joining the search.

I notice you generalize a lot. You say "you are very mean people", you talk about 'us' calling you names. However, many of 'us' haven't. Also, many of 'us' have tried to respond properly to your story, your claims, your knowledge and your opinion. In return you have demonized all of us, generalizing 'us', calling us all mean, accusing us of not caring enough to join the search. And you tell us you don't WANT us to respond to you with reason, which would equal telling us not to respond to the claims you make about Brandon's addiction, our addiction (you did ask us if we were able to cope, the tone you used seemed to suggest that we were in denial about suffering from addiction symptoms), addiction in general, the studies you talk about with blind copy-and-pasting.

Now many people around here have done their best to show you as much respect as possible, or have gone back and changed the harsh words they used because they considered them unfit. I ask of you, would you please treat 'us' in the same way, and not let the way some individuals act cloud your judgement, acting as if all of us are your enemy, mean, even evil perhaps? The way you keep generalizing and accuse us all of the actions of specific individuals, gives an extremely hostile impression and one I am quite uncomfortable with. It troubles me nearly as much as the actions against you that cross lines for me I do not think should be crossed, because words I personally oppose are put down as 'my' words by you.


PS: Please forgive me for not fully responding to your latest post, I am afraid that after you first asked us how we would cope with games being taken away from us, I would not be able to offer a neutral response on your frustration and claims about the "us being addicts" subject. But do note I do not think you are attacking gamers in general. In my opinion you do seem, however, to be attacking the GamePolitics responders in general, as I already spoke about 2 paragraphs above this one.


Sincerely,
Michael Chandra

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And I never said that all gamers were addicts, you folks start your fights and put words into peoples posts. I said that Brandon was addicted to playing his XBOx, you folks said there was no such thing as being addicted to gaming.

You are also blaming his parents for letting him leave to the point you are saying that his father Packed his napsack. I think that you folks here have been so brutally attacked about gaming that you are all taking everything that I have said to mean that I am attacking gamers. On the contraire. I don't claim to be an expert on gaming addiction, but I do know that it is very real and effects peoples lives. And no I would not go into a wine store and start ranting about liquor being sold because of all the drunk drivers out there. I am not in here to blame anyone. I was only trying to clarify some facts about Brandon. MY GOD what is wrong with people. Stop being on the defense about gaming. 

 The term "addiction" is used in many contexts to describe an obsession, compulsion, or excessive physical dependence or psychological dependence, such as: drug addiction, alcoholism, crime, compulsive overeating, problem gambling, computer addiction, etc.

The term addiction is also sometimes applied to compulsions that are not substance-related, such as problem gambling and computer addiction. In these kinds of common usages, the term addiction is used to describe a recurring compulsion by an individual to engage in some specific activity, despite harmful consequences to the individual's health, mental state or social life.

Now what part of addiction don't you understand. Gaming addiction exists, get it through your head. A young boy just died because of his addiction and the addicting game being taken away from him. There are no other underlying reasons. No he was not mental, no he was not depressed, no he was not into drugs, no he was not dealing with an unhappy life at home. HE LOVED PLAYING GAMES AND BECAME ADDICTED.

 

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And I never said that all gamers were addicts

You implied it:

I challenge all of you gamers to stop playing for one week. or one month, and see how you cope. Bet you wouldn't last a day.

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You are also blaming his parents for letting him leave to the point you are saying that his father Packed his napsack.

It came from a news article:

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/521731

Steve called his son's bluff and even helped him pack his knapsack.

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I do find it weird that everytime you copy/pasted the wikipedia article, you conveniently omit the first sentence:

"No formal studies have been published addressing the prevalence of a possible video game addiction."

Also, a study on alledged "video game addiction" was inconclusive, meaning it wasn't proven one way or another. Maybe it does exist, then again, maybe it doesn't.

In another article(http://www.simcoe.com/innisfil_journal/article/119697): St. Joseph’s Catholic Secondary School principal Matt McCann said Brandon was a good student, without attendance issues, until he left home over a week ago.

Maybe we are sick and tired of self-righteous hypocrites attacking our hobby, but it still doesn't give you the right to look down on us. You owe us an apology as far as I'm concerned.

Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Hornets, Jack Thompson can geaux chase a chupacabra.

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Yup, she said it.  Saying I challenge all of you gamers to stop playing...  that was stating that all gamers are addicts.  You may not have said it directly, but that is what you said.

And studies do not get published if publishers feel such articles were researched with bias views.  The publishers have a reputation to uphold, and publishing something that is bias does them no good.  They only publish facts.  As someone who has seen addiction, grades in school will go lower unless doing homework is the person's addiction, which it definitely was not here.

I think the majority of us are being resonable.  Granted, I urge everyone in the world to see a psychologist at least once every few years to make sure they are okay, but other than that, I don't think there is any unreasonable things going on here given communities like these and the number of people we are talking about.  If you expect better, then you need to realize how the majority of article based threads like these go.  The majority of them I see are FAR worse than this.  You have a good number of people trying to talk logically with you, while in a normal community, like a local online news paper, you would only have 1 or 2 logical people on the entire site.

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I am who I say I am, and it doesn't really matter if you believe me or not.  You will no doubt argue until the cows come home that Gaming had nothing to do with Brandon's death. Well folks, I am entitled to have my own opinion without being called a dork or some other foul mouth name.

 You are very mean people here. Cursing and swearing and calling me names. Didn't see any of you so concerned that you joined the search.

I do not care if you disagree with cut and past article, I do not want you to prove to me one way or another. I know what I know. And for the 100 time. Brandons' dad DID NOT HELP HIM PACK HIS NAPSACK.

His exact words to my husband were. " looked inside his napsack and it was evident that he was packed to stay overnight." He had his toothbrush, deoderant, a change of cloths and a pack of crackers." "I thought he was only going to a friends house for the night" and would be back tomorrow. "

"when he didn't come home we called all his friends, the school and no one had heard from him or seen him. Now we are worried that he took up with one of his internet friends that he played online with"

That is what he said to my husband word for word.

The police were concentrating on his xbox to see if there were any of his on line gaming friends nearby. 1000's of tips and calls were made to police and were putting every idea into their heads. From Going to Las Vegas to a gaming covention to someone kidnapping him for tournament playing.  They were leaving no call unturned. They had to follow up on all calls.

 

 

Re: Missing Gamer Found Dead

I gather from your complaints about swear at you and calling you names that you are one and the same as the poster Yahweh?

Kindly stick to one name, or clearly identify that you've switch. Otherwise it makes it look like you're trying to create a sockpuppet for support.

-Gray17

-Gray17

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You accused us of being addicts. That is why people are angry with you. We dissagree with each other all the time, including the topic of game addiction but we do our best to keep it civil. However, when a person comes along and insinuates that people she doesn't even know are addicts and says things like "you couldn't even last a day", people get angry.

 

As for joining in the search, I live in California. Kinda difficult for me to do any searching in Canada.

 

 

Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

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Join the search? My dear, quite a few of us do not live in the area in which Brandon Crisp lived. It would be hard for one such as myself, who lives in North Carolina, to search for someone that is in Canada. As I said in an earlier post, if you have taken the time to read them, is that if we all lived in the area where he lived, I'm sure a great deal of us would be looking for him too, but alas we do not. I take it you searched for him then if you made such a big deal of it. If not then get off our case, and quit pushing your agenda on us. Oh and as far as I know chat transcripts arn not kept on the XBOX or on the XBOX 360, or even the PS3.

 - Warren Lewis

Consumer responsibility is just as important as Corporate responsibility. So, be responsible consumers.

Re: Missing Gamer Found Dead

Edit: Please delete this, due to the constant new posts added a reply might not be read, so I'll post it normally instead.

Re: Missing Gamer Found Dead

You'll forgive me if I don't backtrack and read your earlier comments but I take it you are of the opinion that video game play is at least partially responsible for his death.

My question is: without knowing how Brandon died, why would you assume his gaming habits had anything to do with it?

 

Andrew Eisen

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To this Yawheh character (you talked about your husband, so I'm going to assume you are a woman)-

Why do you assume everyone on here is an addict? Hell, I just started playing games again about a week ago. I beat my games pretty fast, and get bored quickly, so unless there is a massive wave of new games, I tend to play a game and then take a month or two off, with the ocassional 20-30 minute speed session when I have nothing else to do.

Game addiction, sex addiction, food addiction, gambling addiction, etc. are, as stated in previous posts, symptoms more than causes. People become addicted to these things because they have a void in their lives. If Brandon was genuinely addicted (I really don't know), that would mean something else was troubling him and causing him to seek comfort from virtual entertainment. You could take away his games, but that wouldn't mean anything unless something was done about the underlying problem. He would either relapse or find a new addiction.

And finally, I'd like to add that there is a difference between addiction and a lack of discipline. Some people are just lazy jerks, some people can't manage time worth a damn etc. We'll wait for follow up before we start with the judgements and condemnations.

 

-Remember kids, personal responsibility is for losers!

 

Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

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It's not really nice of me to say, but 350 posts without Jack Thompson, and his name only being involved indirectly due to another upset individual, there goes his credit for all high comment counts around here.

As for Brandon, let's call him by his name instead of "the kid" people, it's the least we can do for him, I'm sorry to hear he is dead. Truth be told I feared as much but I hoped for him and his parents that my suspiciousness would turn out to be incorrect. May he rest in peace, and may his parents be left alone by all the cold-hearted who will try to use him as a tool, an argument, a case to support their claims even if no credibility is present, who will treat him as indeed "that kid", an object, rather than show respect for that he had a name, a family, who should be left alone.

As for games, let's face it, people get addicted. People get arguments with their parents, some walk away from home. The trigger may only hide the real cause, and there's so many situations where other triggers were present that you can't just blame video games themselves for this. If not games, it could have been something different, maybe hanging with a gang, music, something else.

Let's hope also that the parents will be able to cope with their grief, rather than and I will borrow some terms from the first post of mr(?) grey_poet here, latch onto a scapegoat and only hurt themselves and others more in the end.

Sincerely,
Michael Chandra

Re: Missing Gamer Found Dead

Has anymore news been made in this case?

Re: Missing Gamer Found Dead

"I challenge all of you gamers to stop playing for one week, or one mone, and see how you cope. Bet you wouldn't last a day."

Been there, done that, resumed playing video games when my schedule allowed it (about three months).

Look, no one's trying to deny that video game addiction is serious. In fact, several people in this article's comments have said as much. And I don't see many people denying that Brandon's addiction wasn't powerful enough that it probably clouded his mind enough that he did this.

But take a look at that sentence again: he did this.

I didn't know Brandon, but I have no doubt that he was not a mindless child, incapable of thinking for himself. He chose to play a game that was rated for a group of people outside his age range. He chose to reject the help that was being offered to him. He chose to run away.

These were his choices, addiction or no.

Let me tell you something; I've lost someone I loved dearly to an addiction. Alcohol. He'd blast through a 24-pack a night after skimming alcohol from his job as a bartender all day. I'm not kidding. If the man was sober, he was asleep.

His liver shut down. He kept drinking.

His kidneys shut down. He kept drinking.

He was told that if he didn't get transplants, he would die. In order to get those transplants, he needed to stop drinking.

He kept drinking until the very damn day he was rushed to the hospital because it was obvious he was dying.

Did his addiction to alcohol contribute to his death? ABSOLUTELY. I personally think alcohol is a horrible, despicable thing and hate it with every fiber of my being. But I'm not about to go to a wine tasting or a bar and try to make the people there answer for my friend's death because they're able to engage in a recreational activity with no problem, but my friend was not.

My friend chose the path that killed him. It was his choice.

Apologies if this comes up twice. I'm not sure what's going on here.

Re: Missing Gamer Found Dead

"I challenge all of you gamers to stop playing for one week, or one mone, and see how you cope. Bet you wouldn't last a day."

Been there, done that, resumed playing video games when my schedule allowed it (about three months).

Look, no one's trying to deny that video game addiction is serious. In fact, several people in this article's comments have said as much. And I don't see many people denying that Brandon's addiction wasn't powerful enough that it probably clouded his mind enough that he did this.

But take a look at that sentence again: he did this.

I didn't know Brandon, but I have no doubt that he was not a mindless child, incapable of thinking for himself. He chose to play a game that was rated for a group of people outside his age range. He chose to reject the help that was being offered to him. He chose to run away.

These were his choices, addiction or no.

Let me tell you something; I've lost someone I loved dearly to an addiction. Alcohol. He'd blast through a 24-pack a night after skimming alcohol from his job as a bartender all day. I'm not kidding. If the man was sober, he was asleep.

His liver shut down. He kept drinking.

His kidneys shut down. He kept drinking.

He was told that if he didn't get transplants, he would die. In order to get those transplants, he needed to stop drinking.

He kept drinking until the very damn day he was rushed to the hospital because it was obvious he was dying.

Did his addiction to alcohol contribute to his death? ABSOLUTELY. I personally think alcohol is a horrible, despicable thing and hate it with every fiber of my being. But I'm not about to go to a wine tasting or a bar and try to make the people there answer for my friend's death because they're able to engage in a recreational activity with no problem, but my friend was not.

My friend chose the path that killed him. It was his choice.

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The Bottom line here is. YES Gaming in any form can be addicting. Was Brandon addicted? Yes he was. Was this addiction so powerful that it contributed to his death? YES. This game was his entire life. Some experts say that the withdrawl can be worse than coming off any highly addictive drug.

The Bottom line here is. YES Exercise in any form can be addicting. Was Brandon addicted? Yes he was. Was this addiction so powerful that it contributed to his death? YES. This exercise was his entire life. Some experts say that the withdrawl can be worse than coming off any highly addictive drug.

The Bottom line here is. YES Religion in any form can be addicting. Was Brandon addicted? Yes he was. Was this addiction so powerful that it contributed to his death? YES. This religion was his entire life. Some experts say that the withdrawl can be worse than coming off any highly addictive drug.

The Bottom line here is. YES Cheese in any form can be addicting. Was Brandon addicted? Yes he was. Was this addiction so powerful that it contributed to his death? YES. This cheese was his entire life. Some experts say that the withdrawl can be worse than coming off any highly addictive drug.

It works for anything...

 

The problem is that you seem to be blending psychological and physiological addiction into one condition simply because of the word 'addiction'. To use an anaology, that would be like operating on the lungs to remove breast cancer because of the commonality of the word 'cancer'.

Physiological addiction requires the introduction of a chemical to the body upon which it depends after a while. Psychological additction merely requires any form of stimulus, it can be enjoyable, productive, helpful to the community or even painful & futile. The end result is that the individual feels gratified by it and gets what their brain thinks it needs. If games were physiologically addictive then there would be a seriously widespread problem the likes of which fox news and similar disreputable media organisations can only have wet dreams about BUT the fact remains that it is not physiologically addictive and therefore any deleterious addictive effects are the result of the psyche of the individual.

We cannot curtail access to something because one or two people might have a problem with it otherwise we will soon end up with nothing at all. Photoreactive epilepsy is probably a lot more common than game addiction and games have been SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN to have the capability of inducing that in sufferers of the condition. Since the late 80s, almost all games have come with an epilepsy warning to inform people of the unlikely but possible effects that a game MAY have and recommend precautions. That is a responsible reaction to scientific data whilst not constraining the individual's right to do whatever the hell they want & suffer the consequences. A screen talking about the possibility of psychological game addiction SOUNDS like a good idea but then that would set a precedent and after a few years, you'd see the warning stamped in tiny letters on the shell of every egg you boil for breakfast.

 

You know what? I actually SUPPORT stronger controls on access to games & movies. I think it is appropriate for a unified and official ratings board to set a required minimum age level (but not 18+ in Australia obviously, we're apparently too immature for that!) and that stores be penalised for breaching that. I am, for some parts, on the side of the 'think of the children' people but only until the discussion devolves into it's natural end of "If children can't play it, then it has to be erased from existence", then I remember that most people are idiots and walk away shaking my head in disappointment.

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I'm not going to bother with the whole argument as I'm quite busy at work today but I will say this:

I find it very telling that each time the wiki entry for Video Game Addiction has been copy/pasted into this thread, the first sentence has been left off.

"No formal studies have been published addressing the prevalence of a possible video game addiction."

Now, why would that be deliberately omitted?

 

Andrew Eisen

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Just to piggy-back on Andrews point, a quick look into the articles that are referenced in the wikipedia pastins brings up some telling sentances.

Being British myself I looked into that one from Professor Mark Griffiths, of Nottingham Trent University which surveyed 7000 online gamers:

Although these gamers show some signs of addiction, our results do not conclusively show that the gamers are genuinely addicted.

 

Re: Missing Gamer Found Dead

 

I consider myself between casual and hardcore when it came to games, I used to be on XBL pretty much everyday for maybe 3 hours total.  My 360 went on the fritz about 5 months ago and it still isn't fixed. I've gone without my 360 for 5 months, and I'm still here and fine. My PS3 is in perfect working condition and I play it maybe a total of 4 hours a week. I use my other consoles maybe once or twice a week for a few hours at the most.

So saying a gamer wouldn't last a day without their console is a pretty broad generalization isn't it? I have other things to worry about rather than gaming. Would I love to have my 360 fixed? Hell yeah, but at the moment it's low on my list of life priorities.

(I apologize if this double posted, my computer was acting funny)

 

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Let's just stop what we're doing for a moment. we dont want to end up being outright banned. so lets calm down for once. we don't want people(Both gamers and non-gamers) getting out of control and becoming Trolls. to the point of forcing Dennis to ban ppl who violate the Terms he set forth.

America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.

Agreed

I went back and fixed my comments once I realized how immature and stupid they were. Not to mention, this thing is already getting out of hand becasue its like JT all over again minus JT (which I guess is a good thing depending on how you look at it). I mean tarosan got banned today for saying something really offensive today, and was banned for that. We are getting too emotional here.

Re: Agreed

Kotaku and destructoid also got out of control(over brandon crisp, RIP) the same way this site did but after a few disemvowelings and bannings they stopped

Here are the Incidents

http://kotaku.com/5077313/body-discovered-feared-to-be-that-of-missing-t...

http://www.destructoid.com/-missing-gamer-brandon-crisp-found-dead-11039...

read the comments there and please don't laugh

America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.

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Could beat that in my sleep,

 

Good luck miss, I hope i get something good,Cause i've not touched a video game in a month, Well I spend more time weightlifting, Drawing Furry art, Studying business and finance at Job corps of america, And Oh did i mention studying?

Magic Taco

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Yawheh, I agree that it’s wrong to lump the blame solely on the parents but honestly, you’re not exactly building sympathy by insinuating everyone here is addicted to games.

As for a game addiction being worse than heroin...

This has been mentioned before and (to put it bluntly) is the BIGGEST load of rubbish I’ve ever heard. It trivializes chemical addiction if anything and I can’t even begin to express how infuriated that makes me.

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What is going on in here?

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1) You're copy/pasting from Wikipedia like Yahweh up there is, which isn't exactly a good source of unbiased research or facts.

2) Posts over 300 end up on a second page.

-Gray17

-Gray17

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I guess the entire population that have recorded studies are all wrong too.

A Harris Interactive poll released in April 2007 found that 8.5% of "youth gamers" in the United States could be "classified as pathologically or clinically 'addicted' to playing video games."[9] A British survey reported in November 2006 indicated 12% of polled gamers exhibit addictive behaviours.[10] Video game overuse is believed to be more of a problem in Asia.[11] A governmental survey in South Korea estimated that 2.4% of South Koreans aged 9 to 39 are addicts, with 10.2 percent more "borderline cases."[12]

A 2005 survey by the Entertainment Software Association found that "video game overuse" was more common in players of MMORPGs.[13] In an interview in 2005, Dr. Maressa Orzack of McLean Hospital in Belmont, Massachusetts estimated that 40% of the 10 million players of MMORPG World of Warcraft are addicted, a figure she derived from the survey managed by Nick Yee at the The Daedalus Project. [14]. However, Nick Yee has pointed out that caution should be exercised when interpreting this survey data[15].

A July 2007 article indicates a 15-year-old boy from Perth, Western Australia abandoned all other activities to play RuneScape, a popular MMORPG. The boy's father compared the condition to a heroin addiction.[16]

A 2008 Study by Stanford University School of Medicine suggests that video game addiction in men may be more prevalent than women when the game concept revolves around territorial control. [17] In a first-of-its-kind imaging study, the Stanford University School of Medicine researchers have shown that the part of the brain that generates rewarding feelings is more activated in men than women during video-game play. "These gender differences may help explain why males are more attracted to, and more likely to become 'hooked' on video games than females," the researchers wrote in their paper, which was recently published online in the Journal of Psychiatric Research.

Some countries, like South Korea, China, the Netherlands and the United States, have responded to the perceived threat of video game addiction by opening treatment centers

The Chinese government operates several clinics to treat those addicted to online games, chatting and web surfing. Treatment for the patients, most of whom have been forced to attend by parents or government officials, include various forms of pain or uneasiness.[24][25]

China also introduced an "anti-online gaming addiction system" in 2005 intended to reduce addiction by diminishing in-game rewards after three hours of play.[26] In 2006, the system was altered so that users over 18 did not face the limitations.[27] Reports indicate underage gamers are finding ways to circumvent the measure.[28]

The Chinese government has launched a campaign to limit the number of hours teenagers spend online playing games. Under new rules, from July 2007 Internet cafes in China must install a program that requires users to enter their ID card numbers. After three hours, players under 18 are prompted to stop and "do suitable physical exercise." If they continue, the software slashes by half any points earned in the game; all points are erased if players stay on more than five hours. [29]

The Netherlands

In June 2006, the Smith and Jones Clinic[30] in Amsterdam became the first treatment facility in Europe to offer a residential treatment program for compulsive gamers.[31] ...

 United States and Canada

McLean Hospital in Belmont, Massachusetts has set up "Computer Addiction Services"[32]. Elsewhere, gamers may seek services at generalized addiction support centers. At one such center in Richmond, British Columbia, Canada, excessive gaming accounts for 80% of one youth counselor's caseload.[33]

Online Gamers Anonymous, an American non-profit organization formed in 2002, is a twelve-step, self-help, support and recovery organization for gamers and their loved ones who are suffering from the adverse effects of excessive computer game playing. The organization provides a variety of message boards, several on-line meetings and other tools for healing and support

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The Wikipedia article has already been copy/pasted from once. Kindly do not keep repeatedly doing so, as it adds nothing to the argument, takes up space, and makes you look likea fool that cannot do research, or come up with their own arguements.

-Gray17

-Gray17

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Edited to be a more mature here.

1. Using information from wikipedia is useless becasue almost most of the time its incorrect or biased

2. Challenging us to go without gaming. Already Completted, in fact, im more of a gamer than my roommate is in college and he's playing on my xbox everyday, while i on the other hand am studying most of the day, and haven't even touched my xbox in a full month now

3. Yes it sad what happend, but the more i think about it, the more I see that Brandon had a chocie and chose to keep playing. I will admit, games can be addicting, but one has to be able to seperate games from their life and Brandon oviboulsy couldn't do that. Here's why Im able to. My parents set time limits for me. At first i hated it, but in the end now, I appriciate it. Had they not done something siimple as that i would be in the same boat as brandon (not dead however) playing non stop. Its that simple, make time limits and be more involved with your kids life. Yes I'm now saying that both the parents and the kid are at fault for this whole ordeal but it still a tragedy at the same time for the family.

4. Stop generalizing, not all of us here are who you say we are.

 

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I do not know about any comments or dates about COD4, this is what Brandon's father told my husband.

Brandon was very upset that we took is XBOX away from him, we had tried to limit his use several times, with no success. We had taken the xbox and hid it from him, but only to come home and find that he had found it and was playing online against our wishes. Brandon had become so addicted to playing online that he wouldn't even sit at the table with us for dinner.

On the Thursday before thanksgiving, Brandon's parents spoke to him about skipping school that day and staying home to play COD4. They took away his xbox and Brandon became quite upset. Brandon tried to look desperatley for the xbox but the parents had removed it from the house. Brandon got really upset and threatened to run away if his parents didn't return the xbox to him. When his parents refused to give him back the xbox, Brandon packed his napsack and left. Just before he walked out the door, the father looked in his napsack to see what he had inside. A tooth brush, deodorant, a shirt, and a pack of crackers.  All indicating that he might be gone overnight to a friends house and prove to his parents that he was serious about running away if he didn't get his xbox back..

Lots of children threaten to run away when they don't get their own way.

This is why the police wouldn't conduct a search right away. Brandon was thought of as a runaway, but here in Canada children at the age of 14 can leave home if they wish and the parents can not make them stay.

After several days passed and there was no word from Brandon the police put out a missing persons report. My husband got the call late one night requesting his participation in the search. My husband belongs the proffesional team of searchers that assit police in missing persons in Ontario. They commensed there search with a lead from the witness that said she saw Brandon onlong the railroad trail. The search was massive, my husbands team seached along with the police unit, using tracking dogs. Terry Grant, an expert bush tracker who is featured in the Outdoor Life Network show Mantracker, arrived Friday night to take part in the search. He assisted the volunteers (over 100) so they would have some guidance in the search. My Husband also spoke to Terry Grant on Saturday Morning. Terry advised that there was very little hope that Brandon would be found alive if indeed he was loss in the woods for this long a period.  Others on the scene had speculated that Brandon might have commited suicide as his withdrawl worsened. And that withdrawl could be worse than coming off heroin.

I know that alot of things are being said, some constructive and some cruel. Like I said in an earlier post. I originally came to this site in hopes of gaing some insight to help with the search. When my husband came home after each day of searching, I found myself getting more and more involved emotionally. I know Brandon's mother from when I worked at a sister paper of where she works. I do not know her very well, but I am sickened at the thought that she has loss her only son. Angelika  and Steve Crisp deserve your support at their time of loss, not bashing their parenting skills or descrediting their true belief of their sons gaming addiction.

 

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Nice narrative. Seriously, you could be a novelist with all of that. So you know exactly what happened in that household huh? Know every detail, and every thought? I would ask that you do not try and present your person opinion as fact, because at this point...no one knows what the FACTS are.

I am in Alberta, ma'am. I do know quite a bit of Ontario laws. The moment a 15 year old boy exits out of the house the father could have called him as a runaway. It is very unfortunate, but a lot of this is speculation and heresay at this time. I would say you should refrain from assuming so much, but it seems you have weaved a tale of intricate blame and possibilities...so I am not sure if reason would appeal to you. I support any parent that has had such a devastating loss, and I feel nothing but sympathy for the Crisp family and wished there was a better solution to all of this. However please, rather than come here to insult and berate those who were not involved in this matter what so ever, refrain from such comments and instead go and support the family as well. They need it now more than ever.

 

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Miss (madam?), I'll be blunt, as far as I'm concerned you do not have the right to tell me what I am supposed to give to people. If someone insists on insulting me out of grief, you can't just expect me to swallow it due to their being emotional. The way you insist on treating us shows us as little respect as you blame us ALL from showing.
As for their true beliefs, they can keep those. It's claims I have a problem with, especially when they are used by people to take out things on us.

 

Now that we put that aside, the first reply I made was one posting my regrets. You'll be able to find it if you look for the following line: "As for Brandon, let's call him by his name instead of "the kid" people, it's the least we can do for him, I'm sorry to hear he is dead."
Only after that did I bother to start replying to posts others made, trying to fight the crude things said. You see, expressing my regrets and sympathy I considered more important than trying to defend myself against the attacks some people seem to make, and to defend 'us gamers' from the fanatic way others acted.
For a few minutes I considered heavily beating down a post from someone who said actions like yours decrease sympathy, since as far as I'm concerned sympathy should be unrelated to disgust over the behaviour of those caught up in grief or personal interests. However, I decided it wouldn't help the discussion at hand to answer anger with anger.

I ended my first response with the hope that the parents wouldn't get caught up in latching onto a scapegoat and would instead be able to find a way to cope with their grief. I would like to express the same hope for you.
 

 

Edit: I won't make another post after this, because I too would like to keep this discussion from becoming a flamefest. I don't think we should do this, so rather than making more posts like this one, getting worse and worse, I will leave the responses to the few selected individuals such as Dennis, EZK and grey_poet, who I think will be able to deal with this better and seem to have a better insight on the manner than I have.

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You probably aren't reading much of the comments here, but I will ask you this:

If what you say is true and Brandon was addicted to gaming, What were his parents doing to find and fill that emotional need he had been filling with gaming?

If read my comments above I outline the difference between a chemical addiction(alcohol, tobacco, drugs) and an emotional addiction (gaming, gambling, porn). In essence, chemical addictions alter the body's chemical balance and the body becomes dependent on the outside chemical to retain the new balance. This can be fixed through proper treatment and heavy withdrawal. The body re-balances itself eventually.

Unfortunately, emotional addictions cannot be fixed as easily. First you have to find what emotional void the person is filling with the object of the addiction. Then you have to replace that with something better that fulfills that need. You cannot, understand that cannot, simply remove the object that fills that need. Because of the emotional and psychological attachment, the person will not be able to cope without it.

Now I bring this up because emotional addictions can be expressed in a variety of ways. They can be expressed through gaming, gambling, pornography, even relationships to other people. Have you ever met someone who just lost their best friend. Depending on that person's emotional connection to the lost friend, their life starts to collapse. That friend filled an emotional need for the person and now that is left void. They cannot fill it with anything else. This person could be said to have been addicted to their friend.

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EDIT 2: I take that back. This is pissing me off. Why aren't my pics showing up?

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EZK you always amaze me with the points you make everytime in a argument. I couldn't agree more with what you said.

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Here here.

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Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

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You are completely wrong on the age thing, you know.

This is why the police wouldn't conduct a search right away. Brandon was thought of as a runaway, but here in Canada children at the age of 14 can leave home if they wish and the parents can not make them stay.

No. What you are quoting is the Age of Consent (sexual consent) for Canada, which WAS 14 until a year or two ago. It was raised to 16. However, for a minor to be considered an adult (and no longer a minor), the age in Canada is 18 in Ontario (yes, I know the two seperate ages don't make sense; at least not to me). Here are the other provinces:

CANADA-AGE OF MAJORITY BY PROVINCE:

Alberta: 18.
British Columbia: 19.
Manitoba: 18.
New Brunswick: 19.
Newfoundland: 19
Northwest Territories: 19.
Nova Scotia: 19.
Ontario: 18.
Prince Edward Island: 18.
Quebec: 18.
Saskatchewan: 18.

So at the age of 15, Brendan was a MINOR and his father, while unable to use FORCE to keep him at home, had every LEGAL right to have him considered a run-away the minute his foot stepped out the door, and the police can be called at that time. As I said in a previous post, though, 99% of parents aren't calling the cops when their kid says they are going to runaway.

Al

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Challenge me not to play for week? Ha, my dear Yawheh, I often don't play video games for even more than a week at a time. It has something to do with work, sports, and my studies. Think next time before you make an ignorant, rash generalization such as that.

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Yawheh, I love how you paint everyone here as some sort of game addict. Yes, games, like anything else, can be highly addictive for certain people. But I am being completely and truly honest when I say that I am in no way, shape, or form addicted to video games. With school and work, I'm lucky if I'm able to play games for one day a week, and even when I do have free time i often spend it doing something other than gaming anyway. Bottom line: rash generalizations and stereotyping do more to make you look like the fool than me.

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 Anyways, your comment from the experts only applies to chemical addictions, not to psychological addictions?

 

China introduced an "anti-online gaming addiction system" in 2005 intended to reduce addiction by diminishing in-game rewards after three hours of play.[26] In 2006, the system was altered so that users over 18 did not face the limitations.[27] Reports indicate underage gamers are finding ways to circumvent the measure.[28]

The Chinese government has launched a campaign to limit the number of hours teenagers spend online playing games. Under new rules, from July 2007 Internet cafes in China must install a program that requires users to enter their ID card numbers. After three hours, players under 18 are prompted to stop and "do suitable physical exercise." If they continue, the software slashes by half any points earned in the game; all points are erased if players stay on more than five hours. [29]

McLean Hospital in Belmont, Massachusetts has set up "Computer Addiction Services"[32]. Elsewhere, gamers may seek services at generalized addiction support centers. At one such center in Richmond, British Columbia, Canada, excessive gaming accounts for 80% of one youth counselor's caseload.[33]

Online Gamers Anonymous, an American non-profit organization formed in 2002, is a twelve-step, self-help, support and recovery organization for gamers and their loved ones who are suffering from the adverse effects of excessive computer game playing. The organization provides a variety of message boards, several on-line meetings and other tools for healing and support.

Do the research for yourself. It is highly documented that Gaming is addictive.

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edit: my post was a little over the top, i apologize, i was a little angry : /

"Go ahead and hate your neighbor, go ahead and cheat a friend. Do it in the name of Heaven, Jack Thompson'll justify it in the end." - nightwng2000

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Do the research for yourself. It is highly documented that Gaming is addictive.

Again, your copy/pastes from Wikipedia are not research. Nor does anything in the section you just pasted actually refute or even dispute my statement that your comment from the experts regarding withdraw only applies to chemical addictions, not to psychological addictions.

-Gray17

-Gray17

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Don't lump all gamers into one category.

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Here are some facts that I found

A Harris Interactive poll released in April 2007 found that 8.5% of "youth gamers" in the United States could be "classified as pathologically or clinically 'addicted' to playing video games."[9] A British survey reported in November 2006 indicated 12% of polled gamers exhibit addictive behaviours.[10] Video game overuse is believed to be more of a problem in Asia.[11] A governmental survey in South Korea estimated that 2.4% of South Koreans aged 9 to 39 are addicts, with 10.2 percent more "borderline cases."[12]

A 2005 survey by the Entertainment Software Association found that "video game overuse" was more common in players of MMORPGs.[13] In an interview in 2005, Dr. Maressa Orzack of McLean Hospital in Belmont, Massachusetts estimated that 40% of the 10 million players of MMORPG World of Warcraft are addicted, a figure she derived from the survey managed by Nick Yee at the The Daedalus Project.

A 2008 Study by Stanford University School of Medicine suggests that video game addiction in men may be more prevalent than women when the game concept revolves around territorial control. [17] In a first-of-its-kind imaging study, the Stanford University School of Medicine researchers have shown that the part of the brain that generates rewarding feelings is more activated in men than women during video-game play. "These gender differences may help explain why males are more attracted to, and more likely to become 'hooked' on video games than females," the researchers wrote in their paper, which was recently published online in the Journal of Psychiatric Research.

Researchers at the University of Rochester and Immersyve Inc. investigated what motivates gamers to continue playing video games. According to lead investigator Richard Ryan, they believe that players play for more reasons than just mere fun. Ryan, a motivational psychologist at Rochester, says that many video games can satisfy some basic psychological needs and often players continue to play because of rewards, freedom, and often a connection with other players.[

The Chinese government operates several clinics to treat those addicted to online games, chatting and web surfing. Treatment for the patients, most of whom have been forced to attend by parents or government officials, include various forms of pain or uneasiness.[24][25]

China also introduced an "anti-online gaming addiction system" in 2005 intended to reduce addiction by diminishing in-game rewards after three hours of play.[26] In 2006, the system was altered so that users over 18 did not face the limitations.[27] Reports indicate underage gamers are finding ways to circumvent the measure.[28]

The Chinese government has launched a campaign to limit the number of hours teenagers spend online playing games. Under new rules, from July 2007 Internet cafes in China must install a program that requires users to enter their ID card numbers. After three hours, players under 18 are prompted to stop and "do suitable physical exercise." If they continue, the software slashes by half any points earned in the game; all points are erased if players stay on more than five hours. [29]

McLean Hospital in Belmont, Massachusetts has set up "Computer Addiction Services"[32]. Elsewhere, gamers may seek services at generalized addiction support centers. At one such center in Richmond, British Columbia, Canada, excessive gaming accounts for 80% of one youth counselor's caseload.[33]

Online Gamers Anonymous, an American non-profit organization formed in 2002, is a twelve-step, self-help, support and recovery organization for gamers and their loved ones who are suffering from the adverse effects of excessive computer game playing. The organization provides a variety of message boards, several on-line meetings and other tools for healing and support.

There have been a variety of well-documented deaths around the world caused directly by exhaustion from playing games for excessive periods of time

Gamer Lee Seung Seop died after playing Starcraft in a non-stop, 50 hour gaming marathon

Dr. Karen Pierce, a psychiatrist at a children's hospital in Seattle, treats at least two children a week who play computer and video games excessively, and "treats it like any addiction." [22]

So for you folks that are truly uneducated about the reality of gaming addiction, why don't you really do some research on the subject before trying to convince others that gaming is not addictive.

 

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Ummm.... Might I point out that, at least in the Chinese sources listed... CHINA is an OPPRESIVE REGIME that has been trying to control access to the internet for years because of access to information they do not want their citizens to access? The simple fact that your trying to cite research from such a dictatorship's medical establishment is rediculous. As your post mentioned:  " Most of whom have been Forced to attend by Parents or Government Officals.  So excuse me if I say That such a report is as much use as a pile of bullshit in a Clean Room.

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So for you folks that are truly uneducated about the reality of gaming addiction, why don't you really do some research on the subject before trying to convince others that gaming is not addictive.

Copy/pasting from Wikipedia is not research. Certainly no self respecting scholar would accept it as a source for a research paper, and there are a number of Universities that would issue a failing grade to any assignment that did so.

-Gray17

-Gray17

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Game addiction was and is the CAUSE of Brandon running away. Do you folks only read between the lines. My Husband Spoke to Brandon's father during the search. His addiction to this game was soo bad that he would stay up until 4 or 5 in the morning playing this game. He also started to skip school. Friends would come over to his house and he would refuse to go out and play a game of Basketball  or go to the movies to stay behind and play COD4.

Tell me something! what do you folks get out of gaming. How many hours a day do you spend on your games.  Gaming is an emotionally satisfying ritual. It is an adrenaline rush, to beat your opponant wether real or animated. I am assuming that most of you are adults on this site and are not under the rules of parents when it comes to playing your games. Lets see how most of you would cope if your gaming was taken away from you indefinately. Mybe you would not run away or commit suicide , but I guess there would be a whole lot of withdrawl going on. Now remember we are talking about a young 15 year boy who was realtively shy and never got into any trouble.

As I said earlier, my husband had the opportunity to  speak to Brandon's father. HE DID NOT PACK HIS BAG. He looked inside his napsack to see what he had packed. With what he saw, he assumed that his son was going to stay overnight somehwere and would be back after he cooled down. By LAW Brandon's father could not stop him.  When Brandon did not show up at anyone of his friends home, they assumed that he might have went to another gamers residence that he met online. Brandon had over 200 contacts on his XBOX.  Brandon was MISSING. None of his friends had heard from him and it wasn't until they launched a Missing persons report on the news they got their first clue. Please do not believe everything you read on the news. The media gets most things wrong. No one is blaming the game or gaming community! They are blaming his addiction to the Game.  After they didn't hear from Brandon for over a week, all kinds of things started to run through everyones minds. One thought was that he was lured by another gamer and was hurt or being kept against his will. He had not logged onto his account, he was not in touch with anyone. Yes there are many sick individuals out there that also prey on young boys. I am not saying that Gamers are sick individuals, but predators use any means to lure their victims. And what better place than a  site being used by thousands of children.

The Bottom line here is. YES Gaming in any form can be addicting. Was Brandon addicted? Yes he was. Was this addiction so powerful that it contributed to his death? YES. This game was his entire life. Some experts say that the withdrawl can be worse than coming off any highly addictive drug.

I challenge all of you gamers to stop playing for one week. or one month, and see how you cope. Bet you wouldn't last a day.

 

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I play 0 to 8 hours (or more if a vacation) per day, depending on if I'm currently hooked on a game. I tend to get hooked on a game, a book (series), a comic, a different hobby, a story concept I have lying around, and it will drive out all interest in other things and be on my mind all day. Haven't touched my favourite online games in weeks due to being too busy to be able to focus on them, and NaNoWriMo starting again with me behind schedule won't really help much either.
Now the INTERNET, I seriously am addicted to. If I go several days without forums and internet comics I'll start looking for internet cafes or anything. Of course, if need be I could always just go to the library and take up reading again. Plenty of famous authors who I still haven't read much or anything from, I can easily waste an entire year or more there. The good thing about having multiple hobbies, and I'd like to emphasize the word "hobbies", is that if one becomes unavailable to me I can simply switch to another. God knows I did it the two times my favourite MMO banned me. (Off topic, in my defense the server owner was an emo. Second ban actually was for me calling him that.)

As far as your claim that game addiction was the CAUSE, rather than the symptom and the trigger, I'd hate to repeat others so I'd like to refer you back to the post Dennis made in response to you earlier, which started with "I'm glad to hear from someone in Brandon's community, and thank you for taking the time to post." Also, I'd advise checking a previous article about Brandon that featured an expert's opinion about how addictions can often be merely the symptoms of something deeper, or so I recall a rough summary would be. Please read those things with an open mind, rather than one shut off by grief, and try to understand that your opinion can be seen as flawed as much as it can be believed to be correct. It's rude for me to say this, but you might actually be wrong on some things, jumping to conclusion without looking at all the experts' opinions and all the facts. Please, before you put the blames on the video game addiction in itself, ask yourself if there may not have been a different cause underneath, and try to supply yourself with enough information to be able to make a less biased answer to it.

Sincerely,
Michael Chandra

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"By LAW Brandon's father could not stop him."

If I was Brandon's age and in his situation, my dad would have stopped me.

"The Bottom line here is. YES Gaming in any form can be addicting. Was Brandon addicted? Yes he was. Was this addiction so powerful that it contributed to his death? YES. This game was his entire life. Some experts say that the withdrawl can be worse than coming off any highly addictive drug."

Sounds like you have an agenda going here. Maybe you are getting something out of the kid's death.

"I challenge all of you gamers to stop playing for one week. or one month, and see how you cope. Bet you wouldn't last a day."

1. What makes you think all of us are gamers?

2. What are you betting? What if I go without a day, or a month, or a year? Can you spend the same amount of time without you being on your high horse, acting so damn high and mighty, huh, CAN YOU?!

 - Warren Lewis

Consumer responsibility is just as important as Corporate responsibility. So, be responsible consumers.

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Well Yahweh, I think you, much like Brad from exgamer.net, are a fucking liar.

Why would I think this?  Your husband spoke to Brandon's father during the search, and came up with something completely different than the rest of the world found.  If I'm not mistaken, NEWS OUTLETS were reporting that Brandon's father helped him pack.  I'm sure you're a more reliable source. 

If his addiction was indeed 'so bad', he would've gone somewhere he could satisfy it when he ran away.  I know, you know better because your husband was part of the search team (sad though, that none of you geniuses thought to check the last place he was known to be seen well enough to find Brandon), but him walking away from his community and not walking towards the nearest friend with an XBOX 360 rules out an addiction.  Come back when you have a Doctorate in Criminology and Sociology and any knowledge of how addiction affects a family and you can try and discuss this again. 

What do I get out of gaming?  An activity that branches generations; my dad, my son, and I can play guitar hero together and everyone has a good time.  Now, my dad and I can play guitar together, but any time my son tries to he gets embarassed (he's not quite as talented as us yet) and gives up, which turns fun into embarassment for him.  What do my wife and I get out of it?  A fun activity that we can compete against each other in without resentment spawned by certain other activities.  We also enjoy the stories games have, from the tale of Niko Bellic and his life in America to the tale of the Wanderer of the Wastes, to a tale of a child named Link carrying a man's burden, the tale of a blonde kid with a punk hairdo and giant sword who saved the world, the tale of a team of Elite SAS soldiers who gave their lives to put an end to a terrorists' regime and save the world, to the tale of a scientist who put down his pencil and picked up a crowbar to make a future, to a whimsical tale of an AI that had some strange tests to run and lied to me about some cake that I NEVER FUCKING GOT.

Once again, I think you're lying about your husband helping in the 'search'.  Call it a gut feeling.

Anything can be 'addicting' but it isn't the cause, addiction is the symptom.  Find the underlying cause; let's examine his home life, his school life, his peer interaction, and his self-image.  Or we could pussy out again as a community and blame an inanimate object.

By the by, I recently went without video games (and power) for a week.  How did I survive?  Oh, wait, I have other hobbies too.  Hmm, probably because VIDEO GAMES ARE NO MORE ADDICTIVE THAN GAMBLING, CHURCH, SPORTS, OR ANY OTHER ACTIVITY.

Go spout your idiocy in Canada, we've had enough of it on the internet.

 
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