Brandon Crisp, the gamer whose disappearance touched so many in Canada and in the video game community, died of injuries consistent with a fall from a tree, according to a coroner's report.
More details from Canada.com:
An autopsy performed Friday in Toronto confirmed that missing 15-year-old Brandon Crisp died from a fall from a tree. Coroner Dr. Dirk Huyer said Saturday that the autopsy confirmed the boy's identity and cause of death, putting to end the faint hope the missing teen might still be alive.
Results from the autopsy indicated that Crisp died from chest wounds "consistent with a fall from a tree," a statement released by Barrie police said. Many media reports speculated that Crisp, whose body was found Wednesday near a popular hiking trail outside of the central Ontario city, had likely died from hypothermia.
Police said foul play isn't suspected.
Police are still attempting to piece together the last moments of Brandon's life. His funeral is planned for Friday, November 14th.
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Re: BREAKING: Missing Gamer Brandon Crisp Died from Fall
..... Bloody hell...
Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.
Re: BREAKING: Missing Gamer Brandon Crisp Died from Fall
If it's true, then they're pretty foolish, especially since it was the father who packed the bag for him and allowed him to leave the house. And paid for Brandon's XBox Live subscription. And the principal of his school refuted any claims of poor grades and poor attendance of school, suggesting no "addiction" at all. And that there's no conclusive evidence of any "video game addiction".
So I believe that the parents would lose any lawsuit.
But if they were intending for them to become unsympathetic, they won that. I no longer have sympathy for the parents, since they apparently want to put a price tag on their son's life.
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Re: BREAKING: Missing Gamer Brandon Crisp Died from Fall
The life of a Canadian is only worth about 3/4 the life of an American.
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Re: BREAKING: Missing Gamer Brandon Crisp Died from Fall
Hey now for the last year our dollar was higher than yours :P
Re: BREAKING: Missing Gamer Brandon Crisp Died from Fall
I wonder if Canada got better or if America got worse.....
Anyway, here is to Canada! America's Hat!
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Re: BREAKING: Missing Gamer Brandon Crisp Died from Fall
*facepalm*
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Re: BREAKING: Missing Gamer Brandon Crisp Died from Fall
I believe this thread should simply be used as a place to post thoughts and opinions. Not flame wars and blame games. A kid's dead guys. Yeah I know earily, i had opinated posts but now its like, come one. Just stop fighting. Please.
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Re: BREAKING: Missing Gamer Brandon Crisp Died from Fall
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Re: BREAKING: Missing Gamer Brandon Crisp Died from Fall
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Re: BREAKING: Missing Gamer Brandon Crisp Died from Fall
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Re: BREAKING: Missing Gamer Brandon Crisp Died from Fall
The sad fact is that thousands of children die in these kind of accidents, bad luck doesn't make it less sad, esspecially for the parents and other people in his life.
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Re: BREAKING: Missing Gamer Brandon Crisp Died from Fall
I came on to pay my condolences to Brandon Crisp, but everybody insulted me and called me every name in the book, so I have no sympathy for anybody now. Fuck all you gamers for calling me fake, and fuck the ambulance chasers for calling me a murderer. You all can go to hell.
: D
EDIT: I didn't defend gaming even once.
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Re: BREAKING: Missing Gamer Brandon Crisp Died from Fall
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Re: BREAKING: Missing Gamer Brandon Crisp Died from Fall
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Re: BREAKING: Missing Gamer Brandon Crisp Died from Fall
Did you not notice the bitching of Liz Woolley, the trolls, all the jackass gamers that make fun of Brandon Crisp's death, sympathetic people getting called fake, the ambulance chasers, etc. I was going to get into the video game industry, but seeing how it's nothing but assholes I think I'll pick another career choice, because I know I'll get no thanks here.
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Re: BREAKING: Missing Gamer Brandon Crisp Died from Fall
There are assholes on the internet.
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Re: BREAKING: Missing Gamer Brandon Crisp Died from Fall
Don't do the same thing as the trolls here by generalyzing every gamer as assholes. Think for a moment for those who really cared.
It's unfortunate that the negative minority is often the loudest.
Re: BREAKING: Missing Gamer Brandon Crisp Died from Fall
usually, when you are the miniority, you're going to speak louder than everyone eles because of your size. Like they say, "The biggest bitch (retarded troll) barks the loudest". Almost all of these "trolls" can't even troll right!
Also, people like negative things because it's popular.
I had a feeling he would died to the elements and not to something even more tragic like murder. I'm just sorry for what his family going to go through. The media cirus, people ousting the dad (despite he blamming whatever, as a father, he did the right thing by steeping in and trying to stop his son from getting addicted)
Sad that the kid died for being a fool.
"We may be human, but we're still animals" -Steve Vai (World's greatest guitarist!)
Re: BREAKING: Missing Gamer Brandon Crisp Died from Fall
"The biggest bitch (retarded troll) barks the loudest".
Call me what you like, but if you have any intelligence whatsoever then you would actually give a comment as such.
I am not troll, I am a human being drawn in by a bunch of insensitive comments.
I do not classify all gamers into one catergory, I do not blame Gamers for Brandon's death, but I am disgusted at some of the posts. SO WHAT.
You say that I am the minority? I think that my only fault here is taking the baite. But I have been accussed of not knowing when to let go.
As for the others, I think that they so not want to get caught up in your bashing remarks. They are twice removed from the situation and probably don't have the time or energy to rubutt your postings.
It is really sad that you can not have a civilized discussion over an issue and resort to calling people names to get attention.
Would you like me to go and change my username to TROLL,???
Re: BREAKING: Missing Gamer Brandon Crisp Died from Fall
I think the problem may not be that the negative minority is the loudest. The positive and/or compassionate are just as loud. Its just that the detractors seem to ignore them in favour of proclaiming that the gamers and gaming industry are insensitive to human loss, incompassionate, evil so on and so forth.
No matter what we do, we will not be able to stop negative comments, at least not without some serious thought control, but that's not a place we should be looking to go into. The main issue I see here, is that for some reason, as gamers, we're supposed to display compassion and sympathy above and beyond the average human so as to be able to be part of human society. However, that's odd in itself.
The mindset of our detractors as a whole (I may be wrong, so correct me please.) is that as gamers, our hobbies apparently put upon us, a higher burden of proof of our "humanity" in order to be human. Is that necessary? Where does it end? How far back must we lean back in order to please them?
To those who claim that we must show sympathy for this case because we're human, I say to ye all, "Nay!". It is precisely that we have a choice to do so or not that makes us human. I will say this, "We are human. We are not compelled to think as others do, or as others instruct. We are free!" While this may sound dramatic, or sound like we're some kinda resistance group, this is the main thing that bothers me. That unfortunately, humans have the tendency to demonify others and require them to act in a similar fashion to be "human", as if being human was an elite members-only club.
Sorry for the long-winded text block, but I feel that this whole flamewar over Brandon Crisp has gone too far. It can only end in tears if we were to let it go on.
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Re: BREAKING: Missing Gamer Brandon Crisp Died from Fall
I’m sorry but I… I really don’t care…
Re: BREAKING: Missing Gamer Brandon Crisp Died from Fall
That's my point. Nobody cares.
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Re: BREAKING: Missing Gamer Brandon Crisp Died from Fall
Sooo...your solution is to throw a hissy fit and lose hope in something you wished to persue as a career? Don't you realize that this isn't the nature of the games industry, it's the nature of the entire #$%^ing world? Especially when you add in the anonymity of the internet. There could be a news story about a dead baby found mutilated in a dumpster (God forbid) and for every post of someone being sympathetic and saying how horrible it is, there'll be about 3 other people making dead baby jokes or some other crap. Maybe it's because they're jerks. Maybe it's because the situation is so horrible that they don't want to deal with it directly, so they make bad jokes to help themselves sort through it. You don't know who these people are or where they're coming from, just like I don't know you, so maybe everything I'm saying right now is unwarrented. And if so, then I apologize.
But my harshest point of view on you right now? You're whining about the game industry as having disillusioned you and being a cold, unfeeling monster based on immature INTERNET comments of random people, some who don't even work in the game industry.
Well, feel free to rip my comments apart anyway. I try to sound self-righteous and it always comes out stupid drivel.
Re: BREAKING: Missing Gamer Brandon Crisp Died from Fall
Pursue is spelled with a "u," like unintelligent.
Re: BREAKING: Missing Gamer Brandon Crisp Died from Fall
A lot of people can be jerks when certain things happen, Sarah. No one's perfect, and that's why we have admins and mods.
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Re: BREAKING: Missing Gamer Brandon Crisp Died from Fall
Yeah, I know. I'm not upset about that, or upset at all really. I just think Videolandhero's whole, "People here have been jerks about the situation, so that means that the entire gaming industry is the same way and I want to nothing to do with them anymore" is just childish. I'm not saying the game's industry is some kinda of sacred deity, but geez, that sort of thinking is just silly. I don't know, maybe I'm just letting it rub me the wrong way too much.
Re: BREAKING: Missing Gamer Brandon Crisp Died from Fall
Actually, I don't get how or why he turned like that.
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I don't get why he thinks we care. Like we need more self-important assholes in the games industry. We'll just get another inhuman Too Human dev.
/rant
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Nice.
*Tosses d.vel.oper a cookie*
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Re: BREAKING: Missing Gamer Brandon Crisp Died from Fall
Oh, I might’ve, if you hadn’t established yourself as an asshole within your first two posts. Seriously, I hardly believe Grizzam deserved being insulted simply because he missed your point, hypocrite.
Re: BREAKING: Missing Gamer Brandon Crisp Died from Fall
Let me get this straight: You're criticizing someone for being critical of someone else, and in doing so you call him an "asshole" and a "hypocrite"???!!! Dude, buy a freaking mirror to see the hypocrite. Seriously.
Re: BREAKING: Missing Gamer Brandon Crisp Died from Fall
Whether I’m a hypocrite or not is seriously all a matter of opinion as I, personally, saw no reason to attack Grizzam, while you apparently believe he deserved being called stupid. If you could elaborate on why Grizzam warranted this insult, then please, go on; it may help your argument. Otherwise, I hardly see my action as hypocritical as I was merely defending someone, along with myself (considering videloandhero initially did insult everyone) from a senseless attack. If defending myself (or someone else) is considered the route only an asshole would take, then really, who am I to argue against such awe-inspiring “wisdom” eh?
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*YAWN*
Re: BREAKING: Missing Gamer Brandon Crisp Died from Fall
What the fuck? Did I miss an arguement or something, because that went right over my head.
-Remember kids, personal responsibility is for losers! -The Buck Stops Here.
Re: BREAKING: Missing Gamer Brandon Crisp Died from Fall
Are you stupid? Did you miss this whole "argument" over Brandon Crisp that's been going on at every major gaming site for the past month?
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Re: BREAKING: Missing Gamer Brandon Crisp Died from Fall
It was very sickening to see the statements, We should be Mature before we hold a debate in the comments section
America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.
Re: BREAKING: Missing Gamer Brandon Crisp Died from Fall
That fell on everybody, and I don't see anybody else doing this shit.
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Re: BREAKING: Missing Gamer Brandon Crisp Died from Fall
He meant you in specific Einstein.
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Re: BREAKING: Missing Gamer Brandon Crisp Died from Fall
Um, are you joking? If so, that's not funny. I haven't seen anyone call you names nor have I done so myself.
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Excuse me, but I actually did heavy research in the feild, and in the direction of game addiction and how game can cause certain levels of violence. Though I decided to get my degree to make games instead, I still could go back for a semester and get my degree in psychology for you.
What has came to my attention during all the research between violence and addiction, was that parents were not parenting their kids, but just letting them do as they please when they reported a problem in the first place or a situation like this occured. It goes to the point where I have started to feel that parents should be charged for their children's actions or at least for neglect due to their bad parenting. I think this case is different because they lost their son, and that is torture enough, but for those whose kids end up in jail 'because of video games' should be jailed as well.
When I have kids, I would let you video tape me parenting them and critique me all that you want.
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Re: BREAKING: Missing Gamer Brandon Crisp Died from Fall
As I stated before, you clearly didn't come here for help in regards to Brandon because there was no evidence Brandon was a direct part of the specific GP community. The specific community he was a part of was the COD4 Xbox Live community.
It was clear you weren't looking for help. You came to spew your diatribe and expect everyone to agree, not because they agreed but because you called on sympathy for the disappearance then death of a child. Garnering support for an agenda through sympathy, gee, that sounds so familiar.
No, you didn't come here to debate, or discuss, or gain insight, or expand your knowledge. You came to rant. That's your Right. Just as it is the Right for others to have opposing viewpoints.
Defending games? Are we now? Pray tell me EXACTLY where I denied that games or any product had NO effect on Brandon? Indeed, I clearly stated that whether you called it the equivilant of "a book you can't put down", an obsession, or an addiction, it was in the family home, far more controlable by the Parents than things he could be exposed to outside the home (such as gangs, drugs, and even shopping). Being in the home, the Parents had far more control, or should have, very early on. Long before the situation reached the level it did.
Nor was there anywhere I decreed myself an Expert. You'll notice, after having visited my Myspace blog, the title of my blog is "The Couch Potato Psychologist's Home - No Experts, just sharing each other's thoughts". Hardly a term used by a formal expert. But, at the same time, life experience far outweighs looking up studies on Wikipedia or various articles found searching on Google. After all, I could pull a great many counter articles and studies if I wanted to. But you wouldn't be interested in them. After all, you came with your opinions ready to smash down on the evil gamer community. And nothing anyone here said would make a difference. After all, we're just gamers defending our hobby, huh? So much for the open mind of someone claiming to be looking for help. What you were looking for was blind agreement with your viewpoint.
But, hey, whatever makes ya feel good about yourself.
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Re: BREAKING: Missing Gamer Brandon Crisp Died from Fall
I had nnoooooooooo opinion before I came on here. I had searched several sites to gain some knowleged to where I maybe could get some input on how to help search for Brandon...I had no idea what GAME POLITICS was as to any other gaming site, Didn't know who LIz Wooley was until some asked if I knew her. Didn't know what Katoku was until mentioned, so buzz off.
I have been called a liar, cheat, moron, fucking idiot, not to mention several other nasty names. I refrained from responding, most of the time, but when I saw you so hardenly ripping apart the parents of a dead child, you deserved a bit of your own medicine. I do not spend much time on gaming information. never had and probably never will. I am not interested in games and my husband is too busy looking for missing children addicted to games,so he has no time to -play...
I didn't come here to rant, because I couldn't give a rats ass about debating your pass times. I did gain some pretty good insight about how and why you get to be hated so much.
Would I have ever come here if it wasn't for research, NO
Why did I post on this thread, well go back and look at my first post. It was under Yawheh, I changed a little further down.
Do I think you are evil. Yes
Is it because you disagree with me. NO
It is because you choose to pick apart and lay blame on parents you know nothing about.
"""life experience far outweighs looking up studies on Wikipedia or various articles found searching on Google, """
Are you NUTS?
Ya I am just suppose to take your opnion to be truth. because well you have a more screwed up life than most right?
Re: BREAKING: Missing Gamer Brandon Crisp Died from Fall
That's...not true. You're actually a poster at OLGANON (or whatever that abortion of a website is called). Your "addiction to Super Mario Brothers" gave it away (a user there mentioned it in a recent post).
Re: BREAKING: Missing Gamer Brandon Crisp Died from Fall
So you see a site with the word "politics" in the name and it's an option for help in searching for Brandon?
Seriously. The claims were he was involved in an XBox Live game of COD4. If you really wanted help finding him, you should have looked up the resources most closely relating to those he directly associated with. One would think that you would have gotten such search suggestions from your husband who supposedly is in the business of search and rescue.
I don't care what your leisure time interests are. I, like many, actually have dozens. Books, movies, video/computer games, writing, visiting various news sites and discussing/arguing about various issues, and many others. You seem to be of the opinion that the folks here have only one interest and probably even only one genre within that interest is what they focus on. Because this is a specialty news site, that's how it would APPEAR. If this were a site about sports, it would appear we would only care about sports. Same with business, general politics (or even specific political issues), or any number of specific specialty sites.
"...my husband is too busy looking for missing children addicted to games..."
Actually, if he's intelligent, he looks for kids who go missing, no matter WHY they go missing and doesn't taint his searches with such limited, ignorant bull pucky as that.
"Do I think you are evil. Yes."
Whoopy doo.
"It is because you choose to pick apart and lay blame on parents you know nothing about."
Amazing the hypocrisy in that one statement, huh? It's ok for you to use generalized, one sided "research" to pick apart and attack individuals you know nothing about, but when we use the information available to pick apart things that happen in the public eye, we're evil. Tell ya what, when you read a news story, ANY news story, never ever make a comment about it ever again. Why? Look up at that very sentence of yours and apply it to YOU. You're telling us we have no Right to comment on others. Fine. Neither do you. Personally, I prefer Freedom of Speech, but hey, whatever rocks yer boat.
BTW, nowhere did I say you, or anyone else, HAD to accept my opinion. YOU are the one doing that. If we don't accept YOUR views, you attack the individual making the counter argument.
Please. Keep going. I'm enjoying your rants.
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Re: BREAKING: Missing Gamer Brandon Crisp Died from Fall
Sorry, but you don't get to decide who is "evil" or not, and accusing people of being stupid because of their "pass time" is frankly pathetic. Gamers are not a clique or small demographic anymore; they number in their tens of millions and cover all ages, social backgrounds and both genders. Last Christmas, we got my mom a DS and she has been playing on it ever since, so much so that we got her a Wii for her birthday which she is now enjoying. Both myself and my sister have been playing computer games since an early age and what has come of it? I enjoy a career as a programmer.
If you were just attacking those that were making sick jokes, well that would be one thing, though frankly there were plenty of people within the GP community that were on top of that long before you arrived. If you were attacking those that didn't care, there's limited sympathy on my part for that but frankly most people in the world aren't going to care about someone they have never met, even if they do agree it is a shame. Unfortunately you chose to attack everyone involved in gaming on this site and try to generalise us, ignoring any comments that didn't fit your profile. This makes you as popular and as oblivious as certain ex-attorneys.
It is sad that people like you know so little about something but still try to tell those who are actually involved in it the repeated misinformation they know to be untrue, as well as insulting their intelligence. You chose the wrong method to debate and thus you have been exposed to be nothing more than a troll on here. We are programmers, lawyers, doctors, republicans, democrats, lib dems, tories, labour voters, white, black, asian, male, female, young, old and come from across the globe. Until people like you learn this and stop generalising, your views will always be misshapen and erroneous.
I'd suggest you live true to your word and go now as these flame wars get tiresome.
Re: BREAKING: Missing Gamer Brandon Crisp Died from Fall
We are white, black, asian, male, female, young, old and come from across the globe. Until people like you learn this and stop generalising, your views will always be misshapen and erroneous.
Yeah what's your point, Hells Angels are are white, black, asian, male, female, young, old and come from across the globe too.
Re: BREAKING: Missing Gamer Brandon Crisp Died from Fall
If my point was lost on you, then I give up on you before I even begin. Also, if you picked the Hells Angels because you wanted to universally condemn a group, you failed. I know a couple of people who used to be in the Hells Angels, one of whom is still a friend of mine and SHE is married with a kid and a great woman.
Let me spell it out for you; generalisations on such a grand scale as "gamers" fail. As long as you continue to make sweeping statements, you will only find resentment, annoyance and, in some cases, vitriol. If you want to debate Game Politics on this website, at least do a little bit of research on the subject and the people involved within it before making such comments or you are going to be compared to the likes Of Jack Thompson. The reason? He constantly made sweeping generalisations that were so wide of the mark as to be potentially libelous.
...And no, before you say it, I don't think you are him, I just think you are deluded with your preconceptions and unwilling to actually curb your attitudes towards us as a group. I know there have been some pretty spiteful comments by some of the members of the forum in previous threads, but that is no reason to continue this vendetta-like behaviour.