Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

November 12, 2008 -

In a just-released statement the parents of Brandon Crisp say that they plan to create a foundation to help unpriveleged children have the opportunity to play sports.

Although it was known that the Crisps would release a statement today, the focus of the proposed foundation is a bit of a surprise. Some believed that the family would target video game addiction, which was initially blamed for Brandon's disappearance by his parents. The oft-repeated game addiction theme gathered much traction in the Canadian media as well.

The 15-year-old gamer will be buried on Friday.

The full text of the Crisp family's statement follows:

The story of our son's disappearance and tragic outcome has touched the hearts of families throughout our community and across our Country.

 

We are so very proud to have parented such a wonderful, caring and beautiful son who has touched so many hearts.


We take great comfort in our time of grief, knowing that his story has and will continue to have a profound impact on parents and children alike, that more time will be made by families to share precious time together. Life and love should never be taken for granted.

 

To honor Brandon's name we will be creating a foundation to support under privileged children throughout our community and across Canada to play minor sports they may not otherwise be able to afford. An interim donation account has been set up with the CIBC as the Brandon Crisp Trust Account, Donations can be made at any CIBC branch across Canada.

 

The support we have had from so many has been completely overwhelming and has made an everlasting impression on our family. 

We would now like to give special thanks to the many from our community and throughout Canada who have touched the hearts of the Crisp family and helped to relay this story throughout our great Country.

 

The Community of the City of Barrie, the Barrie Police dept, the Barrie Advance Newspaper and all of its staff, Family & Friends, Neighbors, clients, employees & sub contractors of Basement Concepts, St Josephs High School, The Catholic school board, The Sweetzer Family, Roosters Bar & Grill (Todd & Suzy), Microsoft Canada, Rogers Television, Metroland Media, Childsave Canada, Childfind Canada, CP24 News, A Channel news, CTV news, CTV National, CBC news, Global News, City TV, Breakfast Television (Kevin Frankish), Macleans Magazine, The Fifth Estate, CBC Sunday Morning, Annan-Bird Graphics company of Mississauga, Indy Imaging of Indianapolis, Strategic Outdoor Advertising of Barrie and Freskiw Farms of Coldwater.


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Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

RE:  A prior note about not having heard news stories about a kid running away because they had their books taken away...

No, we may not have heard of such news stories in major news media venues.  Maybe not even in small news media venues.  Not in present days anyway.

But here are some facts that were ignored:

Decades ago, the evils of rock n' roll, various dance styles, comic books, even very notable literature were blamed for various acts by young people.  From violent acts against others to "immoral thoughts" and even rude behavior.  It would not be of any surprise that if one did a thorough search (and not all information is on the internet, sadly), one might find various op-ed pieces, or even small local newspaper articles blaming those things for even the disappearance of a child.  Indeed, it was very popular to flat out blame the internet just a decade or so ago for children's disappearances without considering that the Parents weren't observant enough or moderating their children enough.  The tech was to blame much of the time when the focus went to the Parents.  Not to mention that children would lash out when they preceived their personal Rights violated.  This also became popular in the '80s and '90s with the ability to "divorce" one's Parents.

Another point is that a great many events occur that never make it into the press, even local events.  It would take an entire network devoted solely to children disappearing to report every current child going missing and those that still are.  A single 30 minute news report cannot cover every single story that occurs even locally.

Spouse A has been a victim of abuse for all their lives and has never reported the abuse.  Now they are abuse victims in adulthood.... yadda yadda.

Child B has been abused in school for the past several years and authority figures tell them to "not be a tattle tale", which will some day make them Adult C who will have been a life long victim of abuse.... yadda yadda.

Homeless person Q has been on drugs all their live and died this morning.  Their life experience included... (7 hour montage).

Spouse 12 has gone missing and is thought to have run away from home.  Speculations include.... yadda yadda.

Child Purple took a bottle of pills and died late last night.  We only ask the people who thought little of them and those who knew them best were Goths and so their viewpoint doesn't count.

Adult Messiah decided that what they had been taught for decades in their religious circle was reason enough to go shoot up a gay bar.  But Adult Messiah was just nutty or maybe the gays deserved it because they are "immoral".  No reason to look sideways at the religion.

If you've ever heard the old saying that there are a lot of stories in the big city, one needs to realize that 97% of them aren't written down and 99% most people couldn't give a poop about because it doesn't affect them directly or even very close indirectly.

We haven't heard of a kid running away because they couldn't read their books?  Who's to say that some "morally superior" Anti-Freedom of Speech twit didn't drive the kid's Parents into believing that Harry Potter, Mark Twain, and Shakespeare were spawns of the devil and the only book they should have in their home should be the Christian Bible (the one with the Hot Sacrament mod that says bigotry, hate, lies, deceit, ignorance, dishonor, and corruption are "moral" acts so long as they are committed by those who follow that particular version of the Bible).  Having been "mentally molested" (a term used by another individual) by such obscene ideals, in the child's view, didn't decide to run away to be free of such things?  And would any major news venue carry that much detail?  Or would there be a nice little spin on the issue, if carried at all?

No, we might not have heard of a kid running away fro that reason.

Doesn't mean it didn't happen.

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Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

Amen4u, you're a tool.  You're attacking the majority of people on the site based on quotes taken out of context and the posts of a minority element.  You know what that means?  It means you lack integrity.

 

The vast majority of posts up to the point you came on here were in favor of the Crisp family's endeavor.  What the hell is your problem?  Do you dispise us because we have a hobby that we enjoy?  Do you resent that we have a passion for interactive story telling in an electronic medium?  Does it offend you that we wish to defend our choice of hobby from unwarranted attack?

 

From your posts, it seems you only wish to start a fight.  That's a pretty pathetic way to live.  In the immortal words of John Bruce "Duuuur, I'm a lawyer...  oh wait..." Thompson, "Grow up and get a life".

Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

Sortableturnip's Law: As an online discussion of video game violence grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Jack Thompson approaches 1

Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

Hah! It's killed your pics too!

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Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

Sortableturnip's Law: As an online discussion of video game violence grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Jack Thompson approaches 1

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Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

I support what they have setup here and I would donate $$$ if I had $$$ right now. I might next month. :) I wish them all the luck with this.

 - Warren Lewis

Consumer responsibility is just as important as Corporate responsibility. So, be responsible consumers.

Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

OMG! This thread turned into a train wreck of epic proportions!

AE: The rest is going a bit too far so I've deleted it.

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Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

For the record I disagree. The thread is a train wreck now and my other comments did not break any of the rules. However I understand you are trying to control the situation nonetheless.

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Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

Upon reflection I've put the first part of your post back.  The rest stays gone however as it's merely finger pointing and name calling and won't do anything more than start another flame war which (as you've noticed) this article has enough of.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

No worries. Again I understand your intentions. I did not intend the rest to be taken as finger pointing and or name calling statement it was meant in a light humor way. The way we all take JT and his antics. Apparently I clearly failed to communicate.

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Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

@Amen4u: why did you flame those people? they did not say anything offensive, and they did not purposly try to offend anybody. I think it would be better if you stopped commenting on this article, as its only going to upset you, other readers, and the mods. Also, I find it very offensive that you insulted me and members of my family(lawyers/gamers) who were neutral in this arguement up until this point. While you did indirectly insult gamers and lawyers,an apology would be nice. EDIT: do I have to use HTML or something to format my posts?

Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

That is why we are different. And no offense, but I wish not to reply to your post.

Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

No, all the formatting tools you need should be immediately above the text entry box.  Bold, italics, bullets, hyperlinks, emoticons...the works.


Andrew Eisen

Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

it looks like my iTouch's crappy browser is the problem here. thanks anyways.

Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

lol Apple fails again. Seriously though, maybe GP should expose an RSS backend, because the resolution constraints on this page are most likely at fault. However, let me say you made quite the coherent post, and I hope your screen isn't too smudged that you can't read this. :P

Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

"lol Apple fails again."

Filters fail worse. 

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Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

Her calling me a bitch isn't inappropriate???

Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

It's quite inapproriate, hence why it was left. Like Andrew said, he's attempting to make it clear why the thread was pruned. You don't ALWAYS have to have the last word, ma'am.

Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

I didn't want to have the last word, but I also don't want the last thing read was some bimbo calling me a bitch either, get my point....

Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

Didn't you say earlier that you didn't call people names?

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Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

This is understandable, but by allowing your follow-up comments, the fire gets bigger. As much as we'd like to please everybody, including you, it's not possible. By deleting the 'bitch' comment, that leg of the thread would appear incoherent, and allow more scornful follow up. It may be hard for you to recognize right now, but it's really for the best. I attempt to be respectful in my debates, and though many of the people here have as twisted, if not more, a sense of humor as I do, I don't believe either side of a debate should lodge any sort of insult. I sincerely apologize if you feel wronged, but please try to see passed the insults to the core of the issue that you're obviously so passionate about. Eloquent arguments far outweight childish insults, do they not?

Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

wow do you have a split personality, because this was not your attitude last night or before. You were quite ignorant to me....Why the change of attitude.

Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

Split personality? Not so much. I am compassionate, while also being quite cynical. We are all products of our environment. Hence why I reference the 'twisted' sense of humor I posess. The humor was at your expense, admittedly, but as I said previously, I'm tired of Brandon's memory being invoked in this argument. Yes, he gamed. To what extent? Only him (rest his soul) and his family know the answer. Now his parents are attempting to turn this wholly negative into a positive, and rather than sit back and watch you and my compatriots (however unintentionally) turn this into another flame war, I'm attempting to exercise my better nature. How long will it last? I don't know, but this has to end, because it's far from constructive.

Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

You know we were just having a civilized discussion and you break it up,,,,,,

Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

True, but it was off topic.  Still, if I had the ability to clip out the middle portion of a thread I would have left that bit in.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

then why did you leave the part where she called me a bitch,,,,,,

Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

Because I want it to be clear why I cut it off at that point.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

Well I never called anyone names, and your deleting a portion anly leaves the rest to the imagination...

Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

You're welcome to reply to that post and clarify as such if you'd like.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

Are you joking..... why would I do that.... why don't you clarify your reason instead?

Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

I feel my reason for clipping the thread where I did is clear.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

Of course you do, why would  I think you were any different.

Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

I'm not following you.  What exactly are you taking issue with?

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

You're a gamer, you're a part of the conspiracy. Blah blah blah.

Seriously though, good job Andy (do you take issue with that moniker), I'm sick of Brandon's memory getting fouled up by those who purport to be 'on his side'.

AE: If I told you some of the nicknames my sister has for me I'd have to ban myself!

So yeah, "Andy" is fine.

Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

"...you're a part of the conspiracy."

Do you realize you sound like JT when you say that?

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Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

Now I know exactely why the Crisp family do not want their son's name to remebered as a gamer....

AE:  Going to clip the thread here.  I understand where you're coming from but not all gamers are as disreputable as you seem to think.  Are some?  Of course; every group has its assholes.  But check out the comments time stamped 7p and earlier.  The vast majority of them are from gamers offering their heartfelt condolences for the Crisp's loss and kind words of encouragement towards the foundation.

Also, check out the Gamers Doing Good articles for even more examples.

Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

Yes but would it have been the same if they decided to sue, or make a bigger issue out of gaming addiction. I do not think so, or they would have stepped up right at the first.. Maybe I do have a bias opion on gamers now and maybe I am generlaizing, but what I have experienced here is to blame.. Go ahead and say that we are all human,and defensive over games, come on now, when was putting gaming over a life being human.

Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

If they decided to sue or make a bigger issue it wouldn't have been the same.  They spent most of the investigation blaming 'game addiction' and an 'internet gaming mafia ring' or pedophiles for kidnapping their son, which kept the police from looking nearby for the child, who, if I've been hearing correctly, was 2 blocks away from his home when he was found.   As for filing a lawsuit against Microsoft, that's both ungrateful and unreasonable.  The parents are responsible for their child, not Microsoft.

Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

How wrong you are, in everything you just said. Brandon was found miles away from his home, not 2 blocks, the police didn't know where to search until they got a call that Brandon was seen in a certain location...whereupon my husband and his search team then had a location to now search...And if you weren't blind  you would read the article and not just the damn headlines...

Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

Question: When your local search teams got the information about him being seen with his bike, why didn't they search there?  Or are your search teams just worthless?

Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

Oddly enough you are also showing why Christians have such a bad reputation.  Starting with an offensive screen name was not a good start and jumping in immediatly with 'gamers are insenstive adicts and this is all games fault!' didn't help.

And of course people would react differntly if they decided to sue.  Tradegy is not an exuse for injustice and as long as the parents are doing bad things then a site dedicated to tracking and fighting such things is going to react poorly.

Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

Well for one, my screen name is not offensive and if you assume that I choose it for christian purposes, then think again. But the entire world assumes so you are forgiven, And I have never once, not once talked about or even metioned religion on here.  I also never once blamed the console for anything, never blamed gamers, never blamed xbox, I only stated that the Crisps stated that Brandon had an addiction to COD4 and that is what the argument was about and why he ran away... If the arguement was about anything else then I would have stated that too. But in all reality I probably would not have stumbled in here if the arguement was about him wanting to figure skate instead of play hockey.. I don't know....I have never met so many people in one place so damn defensive about a hobby.

Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

Hey, I totally understand where you're coming from.  But again, check out all of the earlier Brandon articles.  The ones prior to the report of his death were chockfull of genuine hope that the lad would turn out to be okay and the ones afterwards where filled with genuine offers of condolences.

That said, there were a good number of repugnant posts as well.  But those posts are representative of the individuals who posted them, not gamers as a whole.

"Yes but would it have been the same if they decided to sue, or make a bigger issue out of gaming addiction."

To directly answer your question, I'm positive we would have seen a mix of posts.  Some understanding of where the Crisps were coming from (in this hypothetical situation), some pissy that their hobby is being attacked again, and some whose feelings lie somewhere in between.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

I can say with ultimate certainty that I would have been pissy. There would be far fewer condolences offered. I would be able to see where the parents are coming from, but a dick move is a dick move no matter what the (hypothetical) situation.

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Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

Is it not a dick-move to place your hobby above anothers life? Believe me, I understand where you are coming from, we're ostracized almost every step of the way, but if we only see our own viewpoint and not others, we are doomed from the start.

Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

Yeah, that's a dick move too. That's not what I'm doing though. The kid is dead, and crucifying gamers isn't going to bring him back, nor is it the right thing to do. What I'm doing is being thankful that the parents chose not to do that. Do I give a shit about the kid or the parents? No. Am and being callous? Yes. Am I being a dick? Probably. But I still see their viewpoint.

EDIT: Incidentally, how far to the right can these posts be indented before we run into trouble?

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Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

Nor is crucifying him or his parents. Or me for standing up to dicks. And why are you thankful that they didn't crucfy gaming, what personal attack did they represent to you. They said Brandon had an addiction to gaming, not that all gamers were evil.

 

Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

Okay, let me break this down for you. The original view of his parents (or that portrayed by the media) was that his XB360 gaming was at fault for his (death) disappearance. If you can't see that due to previous statements given by them, then all my time this morning has been wasted, as you will never see reason. Put yourself in our position, every step we take forward as gamers (and there are lots of them, reference the Gamers Doing Good tag on this site for just a small portion) the media and general public knock us two steps back. Yes, there were those being defensive. Just as Brandon's parents were doing. If we are to ever come to a constructive end to the 'gaming addiction problem', there needs to be a fair viewpoint presented. If you let your comments be colored by your beliefs, just as those you chastise have, then there will never be a solution to the problem. I will admit that there can be an addiction to anything, because addiction is a personality trait, it is not the fault of a specific cause. Obsessive people become obsessed with whatever is either accessible or forbidden (usually both at the same time) to them. Brandon may have become obsessed with Call of Duty 4, and when wind came here of the news, mosts reaction was 'Fuck, not again.' and the defensiveness followed. However, and I may just be too optimistic for the real world, most can understand the true issue is the loss of a young boy, whose life meant something to those around him, and due to media coverage, those who have never even met him. I really do feel for and with you, as many here do, contrary to their comments. The entire event is sad, I just wish you could lose the venom and feel with us as I feel for you.

 

Edit: Holy shit, it's the great wall of text.

Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory

But I think most people were on the defense right away..myself I had no opinion one way or another until I got attacked for standing up for what was being so cruely stated here about Brandon and His parents. My husband is out searching for a lost boy, who's parents are devasted.. everything is going through their minds at this point..  They are asked by police.. WHAT HAPPENED. their reply. We have been having trouble with this xbox situation and when we took it away he ran way...For the love of GOD, these parents were not on a witch hunt, they were a hunt for their son. a son they loved very much...

 
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