In a just-released statement the parents of Brandon Crisp say that they plan to create a foundation to help unpriveleged children have the opportunity to play sports.
Although it was known that the Crisps would release a statement today, the focus of the proposed foundation is a bit of a surprise. Some believed that the family would target video game addiction, which was initially blamed for Brandon's disappearance by his parents. The oft-repeated game addiction theme gathered much traction in the Canadian media as well.
The 15-year-old gamer will be buried on Friday.
The full text of the Crisp family's statement follows:
The story of our son's disappearance and tragic outcome has touched the hearts of families throughout our community and across our Country.
We are so very proud to have parented such a wonderful, caring and beautiful son who has touched so many hearts.
We take great comfort in our time of grief, knowing that his story has and will continue to have a profound impact on parents and children alike, that more time will be made by families to share precious time together. Life and love should never be taken for granted.
To honor Brandon's name we will be creating a foundation to support under privileged children throughout our community and across Canada to play minor sports they may not otherwise be able to afford. An interim donation account has been set up with the CIBC as the Brandon Crisp Trust Account, Donations can be made at any CIBC branch across Canada.
The support we have had from so many has been completely overwhelming and has made an everlasting impression on our family.
We would now like to give special thanks to the many from our community and throughout Canada who have touched the hearts of the Crisp family and helped to relay this story throughout our great Country.
The Community of the City of Barrie, the Barrie Police dept, the Barrie Advance Newspaper and all of its staff, Family & Friends, Neighbors, clients, employees & sub contractors of Basement Concepts, St Josephs High School, The Catholic school board, The Sweetzer Family, Roosters Bar & Grill (Todd & Suzy), Microsoft Canada, Rogers Television, Metroland Media, Childsave Canada, Childfind Canada, CP24 News, A Channel news, CTV news, CTV National, CBC news, Global News, City TV, Breakfast Television (Kevin Frankish), Macleans Magazine, The Fifth Estate, CBC Sunday Morning, Annan-Bird Graphics company of Mississauga, Indy Imaging of Indianapolis, Strategic Outdoor Advertising of Barrie and Freskiw Farms of Coldwater.
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Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
Right. And if you look at the history of this site, you will realize that for us, it is a beacon of hope. A beacon that one day somebody in your position will read it, and try to understand what you didn't previously. We are the utter and complete minority in EVERY gaming debate, solely because we have a passion for truely interactive entertainment? We embrace the technology of our era, and we are beaten down, censorsed, and accused for what we love. Is it so wrong for those of us who choose to be defensive? For those of us who react instantly with 'Oh no, not again' sentiments? What part of society is free from these ills, I ask you? We try to be understanding, we try to be logical, but time and time again our past-time is viewed as for childen, and insignificant. Of course they loved their son, but for many here, on this site, which you have chosen to voice your opinion on, our daily reality is attack. Defense is a natural mechanism, is it not? Had you worded your arguments more carefully, I promise you would have those who would sympathize with you and Brandon's family.
Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
So in better terms, if my child dies of an overdoes to cocaine, I better not go to a site that people are all cocaine users bcause I am banging my head againts the wall... is this fair to say?
Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
Bad example.
A better one would be if someone commited suicde over breaking up with their girlfriend then going to a feminist politics website and ranting about how women are evil and should never have been given the rigth to vote because this is what happens.
Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
''So in better terms, if my child dies of an overdoes to cocaine, I''
THAT right there is the problem.. you are analagising, but once again you show that you feel brandon died because of an addiciton to his xbox. the whole point was that that wasnt the case!
And to answer your full question..
if a) cocaine had no proven negative consequences
and b) taking cocaine was a socially acceptable, and legal , past time
then yeah.. if you went to a bunch of cocaine users saying cocaine killed him.. then i dont really see your point, you would meet opposition to your view. What else would you expect?
Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
Is this not common sense?
Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
lol! You'd think so, huh. God, I'm laughing so hard. You phrased that comment very well.
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Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
Well one would think that when a boys goes missing, and they suspect foul play, and an addiction to gaming, you might, just might get some help form a gaming site. Not everyone is on a linching here.
Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
Help! Help! I'm being compressed!!!
Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
Most people were on the defense right away because that's what we've been trained to do after countless video game witch hunts. You can't blame us for that. You got attacked not because you stood up to people who were berating the Crisps, but because you chastized people who expressed relief that the Crisps chose not to go after gaming in general, under the assumption that they didn't appreciate the fact that a boy just died. In my case you were right, but I doubt those other people felt no empathy for the Crisps.
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Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
This goes way beyond today my dear...
Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
What made you think I was a woman? Was it the frequent use of profanity or my total lack of empathy?
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Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
...wut?
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Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
You took their understanding of why he ran away as a persoanl attack against gamers. They were concerned that maybe, just maybe he was lured by some sick asshole preying on kids..It happens everywhere on the net and on the streests.
Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
Hey "ma'm", don't go putting words in people's mouths. I actually don't care what their understanding of why he ran away is as long as they don't actually turn it into a public attack on gamers.
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Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
Reply to edit: Depends on the browser and screen resolution, I guess, lol.
I understand your reasoning friend, but my point is that you should understand hers as well. Callousness is not a substitute for perception.
Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
Understand whose? The *ahem* distinguished lady's? I understand it just fine. Thing is, I like my reasoning a lot better.
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Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
And here I was hoping for an interesting conversation about the actual article...
Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
Shit like this always happens with stories like these. People will be talking about it normally for a while, some people will crack an innapropriate joke or 2 (which I'm ok with, it's the freaking internet after all), and then in comes the paly to ruin the thread for everyone. In any case, there's not to much to discuss. It was an appropriate move by the parents, and I'm thankful that they didn't try to direct misguided rage against the gaming community. They could have really fucked us over in the news, but they decided to harness the media attention the death of their son got them and do something productive to help other people. It's an example that more should follow.
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Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
And you calling me a bitch was inappropriate too.
Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
Case in fucking point. Will you just stop already! I don't care if it was inappropriate!
Andrew, I don't usually like telling people what to do if it doesn't directly affect me, but compare the comments before Amen4u entered the discussion to the ones afterwards. Not to hard to identify the source of the problem here, is it?
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Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
Amen4u is welcome to express her opinion as long as it's on topic and civil. No one had to respond to her post but any who want to are welcome to as long as they follow the same criteria. EZK, GP, and I will do our best to keep an eye on things and intervene if things get out of hand.
Andrew Eisen
Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
You're more liberal than I am. That's OK I guess. I rather have a liberal moderator than one who bans the second things start to get a little hairy.
EDIT: Of course, sometimes it's easier to nip it in the bud than to have to keep clipping away at the thread.
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Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
Sorry blame it all on me, it is all my fault, Thought I would say it before someone else did.
Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
If you want to debate, do so without name calling, direct insults, and generalization. Keep the debate factual, structured, and clean. We have debates around here all of the time, but they normally stick to some form of logical progression and dont go toward direct insults unless we are joking around with each other or JT because he is fun to joke around with.
I can see the logic behind jack though. He thinks he is doing something for the greater good. Half of what is going on with you has nothing about any greater good, but just arguing with people, and half the time not even related to the topic at hand. If you need to vent, then by all means do so, to a professional psychologist/therapist or your family to help you through your frustrations.
If you want to vent toward the gaming community, there are better places than here. Some of them are places created for just that even. You are welcome here by all means when talking or debating about the topic at hand, but only if you stick with the rules. If someone directly insulted you and called you a bitch like I believe you stated above, then they were far out of line, but there is no reason to sink to their level. (I come here to joke around [like talking about duct taping and chaining mike up], have fun, and check up on news Dennis has posted more than anything though.)
If we are debating, I might take a few deep shots and question your knowledge, facts, and experience, but that is part of a debate. You did it to me about my knowledge if your situation, it is just how it works. I questioned your Mario Bros addiction due to the type of game it is, and asked for more information about that story even. Maybe I could learn something from it. I would love to discuss further about that if you wish even. How we do so would be up to you even.
My background in psychology is well respected by licensed psychologists and the area I was focusing around was addiction and depression, which every case of addiction I have seen has been linked to depression. I am not going any deep on that here though.
I love to learn and research many different things, sciences, history, and so on. I watch at least 2 hours of video or read different items posted by professionals in different fields of science. I just love to learn, and hate seeing how many people are so far behind in knowing so much about these areas where man kind could progress. (I love how Canadians said pro-gress compared to the US's progress with no emphasis on o giving it an ah sound. I love how Aussies say aluminum too.)
Now that you know a little more about me, lets all just be friends and be civil.
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Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
At least it's a lot more civil than it was.
Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
Alright I'm shutting down now. E. Zachary Knight, I bear some responsibility for derailing the thread and I apologize. Amen4u I guess just really pushed my buttons but I should have posted my first response and just let it go at that.
It's abundantly clear that she isn't interested in discussion or debate, only in attacking and I don't want to sidetrack this thread anymore. Besides...I have law school work I should be doing.
Again, sorry for hijacking the thread. To bring it back on topic.
Good for Brandon's parents. Athletics are certainly something to get kids involved in and it's a great cause. Nice to see that something good is going to come out of this kind of tragedy. If I had any money I'd donate, but alas, I'm living off Law School loans right now.
Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
I apologize. Amen4u I guess just really pushed my buttons but I should have posted my first response and just let it go at that.
It's abundantly clear that she isn't interested in discussion or debate, only in attacking and I don't want to sidetrack this thread anymore. Besides...I have law school work I should be doing.
Ya it's so nice for you to appologize yet hide a slammer inside for me,,
So typical of a person who is studying law.
And FYI you might want to look up the word "Bear"
Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
1) I wasn't apologizing to you. I was apologizing to EZK and this community for being a part of the problem. If I wanted to apologize to you, I would have, and left it at that. I'm quite capable of making two points, to two or more different parties, in one post
2) There are 33 meanings of the word "Bear." The one I was using is meaning number 9:
9. to suffer; endure; undergo: to bear the blame.
3) Thank you for the slam on my chosen profession. Of course, you wouldn't know that I volunteer my own time at pro bono clinics to help people withe landlord tenant disputes and domestic relations issues. You also might be interested to know that I plan to go into JDR (Juvenile and Domestic Relations) Prosecution. Certainly not a big money-maker. But hey, someone has to go after people who abuse their spouses and children. And at least the juvenile system gives a chance of rehabilitiation in my state as opposed to the adult prison system.
Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
Why would he have to look up the word Bear?
Its defined as 12. To carry on, or maintain; to have. ``The credit of bearing a part in the conversation.'' --Locke.
It made sense to me.
Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
Alright, seriously, I'm all for second chances for people and letting forums moderate themselves, but somebody needs to ban this bitch. When you talk down to lawyers in general, that's when you lose all sympathy from me.
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AE: Okay, that's enough. I'm stopping it right here and deleting everything below this point as it's gone off topic and devolved into namecalling.
Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
Again the question must be asked, why are you here? If it is only to antagonize then you really have to expect the way you are being treated. What you are doing is akin to punching someone in the face and then bitching when they defend themselves.
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Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
Because she is a troll? Too well spoken for a /b/tard but seems to be in it for the lulz anyway.
Probably someone who simply really likes feeling superior over a group of people that she sees as less then human (or at least less then her class) and thus needs to validate her pathedic existance by trolling sites she doesn't agree. You don't go on the attack outside your community like this unless you are getting something out of it.
Esp since her original explination of why she came here doesn't hold water... looking for clues? On a politics site? More like looking for a site that is going to be reporting on the sillyness of the parent's accusations so she could start off with claims of insensitivty. GP was a well choosen target by a practiced troll, nothing more.
Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
Are you serious, I think that I have been beat up for 1000 people on this thread, and yu have the gull to tell me that I am being unkind. THEN TAKE OFF THOSE HORSE BLINDERS Its a free world right.. Why are you here?????
Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
Yes that is exactly what I am telling you. You have no discernable purpose here that I've seen other than to berate the people here. So again I ask, why the fuck are you here?
-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-
Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
i dont know what else you expect..
If i put on a giant sign saying ''All members of (insert a particular race or culture here ) are genetically inferior and (add inults here) " and then walked around an area predominantly habited by those same people.... would i be suprised if i got insulted?
Its narrow-minded, rude, ignorant, and just plain wrong to prejudge and generalise in the ways you have (and continue) to do. As long as you insist on not debating constructively, you wont get anything better back. We are always welcome and open to new members gamer or non gamer, it has no bearing. What matters is that they share a simple respect.
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Few and far between? I can guarantee that if you count up the posts you will find the posts expressing concern, condolence, and suggestions for finding this young man alive will outnumber (perhaps vastly) the negative posts.
Fine I will go back and check... how about that.?????
Madam. I am posting as a moderator here. This thread was rather civil and the overall demeanor of the conversations were in support of this charity.
You were the one who came in here flame throwers blazing and derailed this thread. Please knock it off. If you have condolenses to share or support to Brandon's parents, feel free to leave those. But I will not have you attacking the people of this site the way you have been.
E. Zachary Knight
Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
Who's atacking, I make one comment on how some have insensitive and every attacks me for my comment... Face it... I could have written the Lords Prayer in a post and they still would have attacked. And I know you don't like me either ...
Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
Since "I'll pray for you" is generally 'Christian'* for "Fuck you" when it's unsolicited, yeah, we would've attacked.
* For Christians like JT and you, not the ones that actually strive to be Christ like.
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I never claimed to be a christian, and you can not make assumptions just because I speak of christianity,,,Just like I can't judge you are living in a mental instituation just becaue you act like a mental patient.......
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You never claimed to be Christian, but I'd be willing to place a bet on it.
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Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
I'll agree, especially with the use of the name Yahweh and Amen4u (Yahweh is judeo-chrisitan title for God),
Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
there you go again, can't you do anything without placing a bet... probably one of your addictions right? Gambling.
I know where you can get some help if you need it... LMAO...
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You know, for someone who is actually going to be in the field HELPING those with addictions, I really have to find your gross overgeneralization of all things "addicting" simple minded at best. Of course, since you know more than me, I bet you'd have no problem giving a lecture on how addiction actually takes place, the genetic vs reinforcement debate, the psychology of true addiction, and the ramifications of brain trauma on addictions. I'm also betting you have been published and probably even funded by the hundreds of government organizations who are emphasizing the study of addiction. I'm also sure that you've helped hundreds of people detox, recover from relapse, and know how to handle an alcoholic that is having a seizure during withdrawal.
Please... I doubt you could even adequately define the different base components of addiction, let alone know what they are.
By the by, wasnt this entire thread about how awesome it is that they are using the death of their son to help others? You, madam, are the reason... You know what, no. I'm done with you. I'm done trying to reason with you. I'm done trying to help you understand the folly of your misguided crusade and self proclaimed martyrdom. If you want to continuously throw yourself to the lions and then whine when those in the coliseum cry for your blood, then so be it.
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You know, for someone who is actually going to be in the field HELPING those with addictions, I really have to find your gross overgeneralization of all things "addicting" simple minded at best
Has gaming really taken you out of reality that bad... I never said that I was going into the field of helping those with addictions... It was a sarcastic remark... But I am not as uneducated as you make me out to be...Probably older than most on this site and a little more in tune than I let on...
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''Probably older than most on this site ... ''
really? how old am i then? i mean you DO know dont you? oh.. you dont? ahh right.. you were STEREOTYPING again werent you?
I dont understand why you cant see that this is exactly the same as generalising a whole race, age, gender ..etc. ITs JUST as bad. PLEASE stop doing it.
Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
No, I was referring to myself. I should have said AS someone who is going into the helping profession, but it's a wee bit past my bedtime, so I'll let that be my excuse for my typo. Some of us have to be up for work tomorrow morning ;) I'll just leave my post unedited because it shows just how blatantly you are grasping at straws.
Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
Where is that? A 12 step program that'll force religion down his throat?
Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
Ma'am, with all due respect, this is the internet., since there are no reprecusssion, for isntance getting yelled out or punched in the gut for a comment, people are going to be jerks and are going to be insensitive, though not all are.
Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
As I said. The overall demeanor of the comments was in support of the Crisp families charity and you chose to focus on the most negative comments.
I don't understand why you assume I don't like you. I have said nothing to you until now. When you first showed up, I was fine with you comments, but you quickly escilated to attacking those who didn't see eye to eye with you. There were many civil and well thought out counter arguments to your claims of gaming addiction, with a few crass remarks dotted within and yet all you had to come back with were insults and attacks.
I don't care if you post as long as it is civil and on topic. You can disagree with others all you want. You can even post those disagreements. I don't care.
But when you openly attack the majority of people here by taking the words of a few and implying that it is the majorities opinion. That is going to far.
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Re: Parents To Start a Foundation in Brandon Crisp's Memory
But when you openly attack the majority of people here by taking the words of a few and implying that it is the majorities opinion. That is going to far.
Going to far-- so it is ok for the members here to call me anything they like, because I am the bad one for responding to the so called few for being so far opinioniated up the ass that they only see the crisis as a backward step in the so called fight for their hobby.
Like I said before, my husband plays games, he also searched for Brandon.. did he ever make a judgment on their statements about their sons's gaming obbession, did he stand their and tell Steve right to his face that he was an idiot for making that claim and that he didn't know his son at all and that he was in poor judgement to blame gaming addiction and that he ran away because he was a bad parent, and he should be the one under suspicion because, 80% of the time it is the parents that murder their child and nothing else.. And maybe we should tell them at the funeral tommorow that they should make a public appology to all the insulted gamers out there that have been so deeply affected by their claims of their child being addicted to gaming..and spent so much time and money in the search for your son.
Stop telling me what I am suppose to do and how I am suppose to repond to such idiotic remarks. Stop telling me that I am attacking the majority. I may have generalized in the past, but then again the negative and most idiotic remarks stand out and deserve a response for their comments.
I am not as thick Skinned as others, and I wish you would all just stop telling me how to respond or post. I have kept it civil as asked, but as far as telling me what I comment on and what I can't, that is sensoring or cyber bullying.