Bill O'Reilly Whines About Heidi Klum's Guitar Hero Commercial
Bill O'Reilly Whines About Heidi Klum's Guitar Hero Commercial
November 14, 2008
On Fox News program The O'Reilly Factor, pundit Bill O'Reilly tries to drag Heidi Klum's Guitar Hero commercial into the culture wars, but even his two conservative female guests don't want to go there.
At issue is Heidi's Risky Business-inspired Guitar Hero shredding routine. O'Reilly is apparently concerned about the the moral effects of the commercial, featuring a lingerie-clad Klum, airing in prime time.
Then again, O'Reilly has never been much of a fan of video games. Or iPods. Or Blackberries. But Mr. Morality does enjoy a good loofa.
GP: Thanks to GP jack-of-all-trades Andrew Eisen for the sharp eyes...
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Posted 11/07/09 at 03:34pm
ZippyDSMlee: ggrrrrr......vista lost one of my hard drives and I had a heart attack thinking I lost 1TB of data....
ZippyDSMlee: ggrrrrr......vista lost one of my hard drives and I had a heart attack thinking I lost 1TB of data....
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:58am
JDKJ: Which could be explained by both (a) and (b).
JDKJ: Which could be explained by both (a) and (b).
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:56am
Austin_Lewis: JDKJ: You forgot C) the fact that, for some reason, every time he did something that would suggest he shouldn't be in the military, let alone an officer, higher ups ignored it or let it slide.
Austin_Lewis: JDKJ: You forgot C) the fact that, for some reason, every time he did something that would suggest he shouldn't be in the military, let alone an officer, higher ups ignored it or let it slide.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:51am
JDKJ: Part of the problem is, I believe, that (a) the Army had a lot of time and money already invested in him and which they were unwilling to simply write-off and (b) an increasing need for the type of skills and services he provided.
JDKJ: Part of the problem is, I believe, that (a) the Army had a lot of time and money already invested in him and which they were unwilling to simply write-off and (b) an increasing need for the type of skills and services he provided.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:48am
JDKJ: And that even if he was begging not to get cut loose, he was apparently a real good candidate for being cut loose, anyway.
JDKJ: And that even if he was begging not to get cut loose, he was apparently a real good candidate for being cut loose, anyway.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:11am
JDKJ: @chada: And while Kennedy once noted that there's usually more than enough blame for everyone to get a slice, the possibility that the Army was unwilling to cut loose someone who was asking to get cut loose could be a factor.
JDKJ: @chada: And while Kennedy once noted that there's usually more than enough blame for everyone to get a slice, the possibility that the Army was unwilling to cut loose someone who was asking to get cut loose could be a factor.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:07am
ZippyDSMlee: *noms on his feet*..nomnomnomnom*droooll* ...wuuutttttt uuu looking at?
ZippyDSMlee: *noms on his feet*..nomnomnomnom*droooll* ...wuuutttttt uuu looking at?
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:05am
JDKJ: I'm no psychologist, but I'm told that crazy people have a tendency to do crazy things.
JDKJ: I'm no psychologist, but I'm told that crazy people have a tendency to do crazy things.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:03am
chadachada321: Whoops, was out of the convo for awhile. I do wonder what type of ammo he used etc, but the real issue is WHY he did it, not HOW
chadachada321: Whoops, was out of the convo for awhile. I do wonder what type of ammo he used etc, but the real issue is WHY he did it, not HOW
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:56am
JDKJ: But if it turns out that they actually did, they'll have Hell to pay.
JDKJ: But if it turns out that they actually did, they'll have Hell to pay.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:45am
JDKJ: And I'd tend to rule out the possibilty of FN Herstal supplying restricted ammunition to someone merely because they're ordering it from a military base.
JDKJ: And I'd tend to rule out the possibilty of FN Herstal supplying restricted ammunition to someone merely because they're ordering it from a military base.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:37am
JDKJ: I know you don't leave your gated community and get around much in dark alleys, so you may be surprised to learn that there's this thing called "the black market" where, if you've got enough money, ain't too much of anything which can't be bought.
JDKJ: I know you don't leave your gated community and get around much in dark alleys, so you may be surprised to learn that there's this thing called "the black market" where, if you've got enough money, ain't too much of anything which can't be bought.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:36am
Austin_Lewis: Or, maybe he or someone else at the base ordered the SS190 from FN Herstal.
Austin_Lewis: Or, maybe he or someone else at the base ordered the SS190 from FN Herstal.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:32am
Austin_Lewis: the hands of private owners. They run about 300 dollars minimum for a box of 50, and boxes of AP 5.7 are extremely scarce, mainly residing in the hands of Class III stores or individuals who for one reason or another got a demo box of it.
Austin_Lewis: the hands of private owners. They run about 300 dollars minimum for a box of 50, and boxes of AP 5.7 are extremely scarce, mainly residing in the hands of Class III stores or individuals who for one reason or another got a demo box of it.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:30am
Austin_Lewis: There are other firearms that fire the 5.7. However, I too would like to know where he got the ammo and what kind was used. Maybe Hasan, planning not to live through this, went out and bought one the boxes of SS190 that are floating around in
Austin_Lewis: There are other firearms that fire the 5.7. However, I too would like to know where he got the ammo and what kind was used. Maybe Hasan, planning not to live through this, went out and bought one the boxes of SS190 that are floating around in
Posted 11/07/09 at 08:44am
JDKJ: And it isn't yet clear what type of ammunition Hasan used. It's strange that he purchased a gun but didn't purchase ammunition for it at the same place and time. Especially because the calibre required is peculiar to the actual gun.
JDKJ: And it isn't yet clear what type of ammunition Hasan used. It's strange that he purchased a gun but didn't purchase ammunition for it at the same place and time. Especially because the calibre required is peculiar to the actual gun.
Posted 11/07/09 at 08:40am
JDKJ: We can sit here all day and debate the relative merits. However, I think the events of recent days suggest that an FN Five-Seven ain't exactly the same as that Daisy BB gun you got for Christmas when you were a kid.
JDKJ: We can sit here all day and debate the relative merits. However, I think the events of recent days suggest that an FN Five-Seven ain't exactly the same as that Daisy BB gun you got for Christmas when you were a kid.
Posted 11/07/09 at 08:38am
Austin_Lewis: JDKJ: tumbling can be quite dangerous. However, the rounds that commonly tumbled were variants of the SS90. Civilian ammo tends to tumble far less commonly.
Austin_Lewis: JDKJ: tumbling can be quite dangerous. However, the rounds that commonly tumbled were variants of the SS90. Civilian ammo tends to tumble far less commonly.
Posted 11/07/09 at 08:33am
JDKJ: I understand that while they don't have much expansion effect, they tend to "yaw" on impact. Yaw can be almost just as damaging as mushrooming.
JDKJ: I understand that while they don't have much expansion effect, they tend to "yaw" on impact. Yaw can be almost just as damaging as mushrooming.
Posted 11/07/09 at 08:30am
Austin_Lewis: JDKJ: Except when one considers the lack of expansion for the 5.7, it basically ends up leaving a far smaller hole.
Austin_Lewis: JDKJ: Except when one considers the lack of expansion for the 5.7, it basically ends up leaving a far smaller hole.
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Wow..Even the Fox Conservatives think O'Reilly goes too far....It's the Apocolypse!
Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.
Democrats won. They have to stay relevent. Business is business. I just remember when news was news...
Oh my god! A woman appears in lingerie in a commercial! What will happen next?!
Good thing he has never seen the victoria secrets commercials that happen all the time during prime time.
A man will do it. *laughs*
- Warren Lewis
The thing that surprises me is that in this case, it's a male (well, I'm loathe to refer to O'Reilly as a man, but apparently his gender is male, so I'll go with that) whining about it, and the women aren't.
Usually, guys would be complaining that it doesn't happen often enough, while some shrew will be whining about how it exploits women (nevermind the fact that sexual exploitation goes both ways and is never necessarily a forced condition, given the choices of clothing some make to wear).
Is it just opposite day?
I just had to laugh! Not at Bill O'Reilly, but at the commercial.
Is it for Guitar Hero or Victoria Secret? It shows almost no footage from the actual game, plays one song, and she's not even playing it properly! Sex does sell...
I think Bill is right on ONE account though: Heidi needs to cut back on the caffeine! LOL!
I don't even think they're showing that one on tv.
Yet, they show it on TV. I thought the news was suppose to be family friendly
Come on, that's par for the course with Fox News. They broadcast raunchy stuff under the guise of criticizing it. Remember Fox News Porn (Possibly NSFW)?
http://www.darkesword.com/
If that site didn't get all preachy it would've been made of win.
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"What for you bury me in the cold cold ground?" - Tasmanian devil
Dude... Bill O'Reilly would euthanize the weighted companion cube if given half a chance...
Yes and faster than any test subject on record.
On topic, was anyone else reminded of Bill Hicks' "Drink Coke" bit after reading this?
--- "Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?" -Andrew Ryan
Sluuurp sluuurp Oh yeah. I love it.
Oh wait, that was his George Michaels impression :) The drink coke was the naked woman with the logo :D
The ultimate commercial if they could ever get away with it.
I don't know... I murdered the cube pretty darn quick (of course I cried for several hours later)
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" - Benjamin Franklin
Thats not the one they are showing on prime time TV.
The one they show during primetime, she never removes the shirt.
That is the one they are showing late at night around 11 pm.
I think Brokenscope is right. I've never seen the full commercial on during primetime. In fact, I doubt you'd see any Guitar Hero commercial on a family-oriented channel during primetime.
And the only thing that would have made this incident better would be if they showed a Guitar Hero commercial during the next break.
Anyone who bitches about seeing Hedi Klum in lingerie has no right to call themself a man.
I find it funny that the one lady asks him if he every played guitar hero and he responds with "I don't even know what it is".
Considering I've had some friends tell me. "If I was straight I'd hit that." agreed.
Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.
You'd think being in TV they'd understand demographics. That's why you never see commercials for Barbie's Dream Home while watching Heroes on NBC late-night, why you never see video game commercials on HGTV, and why you won't see that ad before 11pm on network TV. They filmed two versions of that, but of course they won't mention that on The O'Reily Factor.
HEY! This is the no-spin zone! If they went on to mention there were two ads, well, they consider that a spin! And there's no spins in the O'Reilly Factor! Everything he says, yells, slams out on his desk in Morse Code as he belittles the victim liberal meatbag, tearing into any of those anti-American bastards like the Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog, is absolutely, one-hundred percent, unquestionably true. He is the only unbiased media dog in the US, everyone else is too liberally biased, even Fox News.
/joking
Nothing to see here, just O' Reiley trying to drum up controversy where there is none. Business as usual for him.
He should get a side job working for Kotaku.
He'd get bored reporting about EVERY DAMN ERO GAME EVA 14 times a day for that. Of course he could post the rumors he got from a disgarded napkin picked up outside a wendy's Blizzard employees have been known to frequent. Sounds about on par with Kotaku's news integrity.
Wall of Text Simulation- Insert coin to continue.
I never saw that version. I only saw the version where she keeps her shirt on.
Regardless, if it did come on I would have the same reaction to that version as I did the other version and the one with the male athletes: "Wow, what a lame commercial." Who is this commercial supposed to appeal to 40+ year olds? I'm 35 and Bob Segar and Risky Business seem ancient to me. And why the heck is Tony Hawk wearing a helmet in that commercial? He just looks like an idiot.
http://www.popularculturegaming.com
Honestly I think they did it so that people would realize who it was incase they couldn't recognize him. Or maybe Tony Hawk is such a crazy guitar hero drummer he needs to keep his helmet on.
I've got to say A-Rod dancing around is much much more morally bankrupt.
So, he's horribly offended by ths commercial, llike he said, "because he's a guy." But he's got no problem harrassing a lady who wants nothing to do with him.
Wow a super model is a skank, why is he so surprised?
Eva Longoria's slow-motion jiggletastic run they use to advertise Desparate Housewives any time after 5 p.m. CST is 10 times raunchier than this.
Also, I applaud those women. More offended by primetime violent TV is something we've been saying for years now. Saying the game is for teenage boys and young men is a good start to getting out of this "games are for kids" slump.
In the end, I think Bill O'Reilly is using this as an excuse to storm Heidi Klum's house.
I hate that commercial. She doesn't even pretend to play the game. She just wiggles around looking good (fingers off the colored fret-buttons). All hot, NO substance. No thanks.
Trying to use that ad to sell the game is just selling to an outdated demographic idea. Games like Rock Band/ Guitar Hero show a much wider appeal (and gender diverse to boot) than that commecrial gives credit to. Kind of a throwback to the idea that video games are for juvenille, sexually repressed guys.
But instead of that valid piece of criticism, the sexually repressed moralist Right Wingnut King (you know, the type that lost the GOP the election), goes after some skin as the problem.
~~All Knowledge is Worth Having~~
According to the interview she plays it. and its a commerical. She followed a script. I didn't expect her to be 'actually' playing it.
- Warren Lewis
OK, but she's definitely not even superficially pretending to play the game in the commercial.
So you are left with the impression that there must be some other reason she's in the commerial right? Unless you can figure on another reason besides HAWTness, I am left with the idea of the commercial being a terrible throwback to the idea the video games are for sexually frustrated juvenille men. Which is patently false in the case of social, appealing to a gender diverse demographic, game(s) like GH/RB.
~~All Knowledge is Worth Having~~
actually, i've seen a larger demographic split between the Rock Band set and the Guitar Hero set. GH is aimed at a younger audience than RB is in general.
Guitar Hero (until WT) has been more about selfishness and competition. Rock Band is about cooperation (everyone must succeed in order for you to win). both have had a different set of music, RB being more inclusive to a wider audience than GH which focuses on heavy guitar thrashing.
Here are we -- and yonder yawns the universe.
Fair enough. But you have to admit the appeal to both sexes that the games hold.
~~All Knowledge is Worth Having~~
I find it particularly telling that he says video games scare him. Really, he just gave away his game there.
*Imitates O'Reilly*
"Those nasty nasty pornographic time wasters scare me! Whaaaa!!!!"
- Warren Lewis
Waaaait, wait wait. Are we talking about O'Reilly or Jack Thompson?
Wait! Has anyone ever seen them in the same place at the same time?!
I love the slide at the beginning :D
- Warren Lewis
i've only seen the version where she keeps on the white shirt (and it stays buttoned up).
Here are we -- and yonder yawns the universe.
It's fun to hear him whine about this and yet he has a sex scandal from a couple of years ago under his belt. Can you spell Hypocrite Bill?
Hurrumph! Now take that falafle thing and...
-Remember kids, personal responsibility is for losers! -The Buck Stops Here.
I've never seen that commercial. I've only seen the one where she wears a white jacket and no pants (no you can't see lingerie in it).
Personally I think it's a dumb commercial buut that's just me.
Seeing O'Reily shred on guitar hero would make my day though.
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"What for you bury me in the cold cold ground?" - Tasmanian devil
I don't like the commercial either, but not for the same reasons that Bill does. Guitar Hero is a great game, one of the best series ever made, and it doesn't need heavy-handed sex to help sell itself. The whole thing is cheapened as a result, and I found the commercial to be somewhat insulting.
Then again, maybe I'm just channeling my hatred of that no-talent scrubwad she calls a husband. I'd rather listen to my toilet back up than his music. I'm also mightily annoyed by people who feel the need to give their children five-part names. (end rant)
"There is no sin except stupidity." - Oscar Wilde
I was insulted by it too. Did they add sex and drugs to guitar hero or is still mainly rock oand roll? I wouldn't expect hard rock cafe to try to use sex to sell itself I'd expect it to use rock and roll (and food).
I really like the song playing in the background and then they use that woman in the foreground as if that's what I really want out of video games and that's just insulting. I would've loved to see like a rock concert in the living room or something like that, but noooooooo.
Hugh Heffner once said that sex sells. He's right but I think he forgot to add that there's a limit on how much you can abuse that principle.
I'm reminded of the burger king ads, and it just occured to me that have those ads not become controversy I would've forgotten about them by now.
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"What for you bury me in the cold cold ground?" - Tasmanian devil
Don't get me started on Hugh. My girlfriend's been hooked on "Girls Next Door" since it started. Those brainless twits make my stomach turn.
"There is no sin except stupidity." - Oscar Wilde
"I'm also mightily annoyed by people who feel the need to give their children five-part names. "
Me too. Six is the minimum. My daughter has six names.
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Why sky´s blue?
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The sky is a flip-flopper. It can't decide what shade of blue it wants to be, and so I reason that the sky is blue because it is filled with liberals
*grin* nice :)
Why are you such a douchebag? Seriously.
It is very simple. I say words and republicans are like yay and democrats are like AAAARGH and then I make money.
I also do it to impress Ann Coulter :3
LOL Yeah that sounds about right.
Must be hard to say that stuff with a straight face.
What makes better pets, penguins or polar bears?
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"What for you bury me in the cold cold ground?" - Tasmanian devil
Why wouldn't you answer my last question?
Who's worse feminists or the ACLU?
If you were a superhero what would you call yourself?
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"What for you bury me in the cold cold ground?" - Tasmanian devil
What's so offensive about Heidi Klum's body?
He's probably just pissed that she wasn't completely nude.
-Remember kids, personal responsibility is for losers! -The Buck Stops Here.
Okay, seriously guys. Don't be surprised at anything on fox. They're the ones that air the simpsons, family guy, originally had futurama, and king of the hill (though the last is psuedo-conservative).
Of course, FG is the worst out of all those, at least now.
Anyway, the point is commercials should hit v-chips too, or the show should be rated at the highest (worst) rating shown during its airtime, including commercials. I.E. G rated show has 'suggestive' commercial like one of the axe commercials, it gets rated up for the commercial for that broadcast.
Of course, filtering commercials makes TV stations sad. Ha. XD
An episode in The Simpsons explained the dichotomy between the entertainment sector and the news sector of Fox. But I forgot what was said. Anyone care to bring it in?
But... they didn't even show that commercial on US TV. The only one I've been seeing is this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLeZAGLEzcU
O'Reilly needs to stop trolling YouTube for the worst stuff out there and start actually watching TV.
O'Reilly should drink a nice cup of STFU
He wasn't always against the video game market. Dig the trenches of YouTube and you'll see a younger O'Reilly reporting on the "Mario Craze" of the 80's, in a very neutral, balanced manner. When you start to hate something due to more publicity, you can call yourself a tool. All talking heads in the media are.
I think his only comments were, "...Nintendo is much more than that. Nintendo is... well, almost the most fun a kid could have." And, "All this is beyond me. I had trouble with Lincoln Logs. Remember Lincoln Logs? I mean that was it for me."
If there's one move I don't find enticing, it's the breastbone wiggle move that occurs too many times in this commercial. It just looks dumb if you ask me.
Other than that, Bill is an O'ld man. People that take him seriously are even more out of touch than myself.
I agree with the "Old" part... but I'm with everyone else when they question the "Man" part.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" - Benjamin Franklin
As a guy I can say that that Commercial was just ******* stupid, and her boob wiggle/kicking was just too annoying. Klum is hot but that Commercial was just appealing to the idiots who think "mmmm boobies..... must get Guitar Hero....".
And Papa Bear even said that he wasn't offended by it, but he wanted to see what they thought. Even though he did not mention that that was the Directors Cut of the Comercial... And I think that GP is overreacting to this video.
For lack of another appropriate post I found these humourous videos on HOwCaSt.com whilst we speak of lingerie
http://www.howcast.com/videos/28618-How-To-Compete-With-a-Video-Game-For-Your-Boyfriends-Attention?ref=htd
O'Reilly says he doesn't know what Guitar Hero is but that it scares him... Who's scary Bill?
O'Reilly - the troglodite humunculous
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8IP5rEVVJk
How could normal red blooded American straight man find anything wrong with that commercial? He must have latent homosexual tendencies or is a pinko commie spy or is secretly working for some organized religious zealots sect posing as a real man. I have no fear however since I'm a libertarian cultural warrior and I say "kaboooom!" to all the fundamentalists.
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"The most difficult pain a man can suffer is to have knowledge of much and power over little" - Herodotus
Holy crap the commercial suddenly makes sense now (at least the one where she doesn't take off her shirt). If you think it's inappropriate look up the music video for the song playing in the background. Strange that Fox never mentioned this, you'd think a news channel would pick that up.
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"What for you bury me in the cold cold ground?" - Tasmanian devil
Yeah that commercial was annoying. And the women's comments on the commerical were pretty dumb as well.
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"Because this town is under the stranglehold of a few tight eyed Tree Huggers who would rather play Hacky Sack than lock up the homeless" -- Birch Barlow
For what it's worth, this exact commercial HAS been aired in the US. I saw it a couple of weeks ago Saturday during a college football game...couldn't tell you the channel, but it was definitely the shirtless version. I liked it MUCH more than Michael Phelps and company...