Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

November 18, 2008 -

Police in Winnipeg believe that a quartet of youthful offenders were acting out in video game-like fashion by stealing cars and fleeing from pursuing officers.

CBC reports on comments by Sgt. Doug Safioles:

They all play the game, they talk about the game, they tell their probation officers it's a game. It's a huge rush. They taunt the police on purpose to engage in chases.

Safioles, who did not link the teens to a specific game, made similar comments in May. At that time, however, a youth advocate linked the crimes to the region's high level of poverty.

Meanwhile, in Australia, the Daily Telegraph reports that Superintendent Dave Evans of the New South Wales police has blamed video games for a lack of responsibility on the part of teen drivers:

Video games can have a negative impact on young drivers because it increases their complacency and their indulgence in risk-taking behaviour. In games you race, you crash and it is a matter of pressing the buttons and off you go again. In real life it doesn't work that way, you can be killed.

 


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Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

Oh GOLLY GEE, Mr. Thompson, i didn't know that stealing cars was as easy as pressing a mysterious button in the shape of a triangle on the door of a car! It magically makes me super strong, takes control of my body, and steals the car! Wowee wow wow!

Mr. Thompson, your claim that these are 'simulators' are a joke. Especially that bit about the rumble function a while back. The rumble functions the exact same way whether you run over a rock or there's a nuclear explosion. The only thing that happens differently is the duration of the rumble. Besides, i didn't know that running over something felt as near-unnoticable as my cell phone vibrating, which is what the controllers do.

Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

That sounds like a threat on someone's family to me.

Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

Agreed.

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Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

cops aren't incapable of committing serious crimes themselves Jack. and why the quotes? can't get it up?

岩「…Where do masochists go when they die?」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

Hey John Bruce.  I don't think you realize, being that you have been vacationing in senile-town since forever, but the game Postal 2 includes a bloody rampage through a Running With Scissors office.  Running with Scissors being the company which made Postal 2.  And guess what?  There has not been any real life violence in the actual Running with Scissors office.  Wonder of wonders!

You seem to be under some sort of delusion that if a virtual representation of yourself dies then your real self dies.  This is honestly bullshit.  As someone who has posted at Kotaku I fully support your idea for a Kotaku poster killing game.  Do you think such a concept would scare us?  Really.  You are so full of shit.

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

"You seem to be under some sort of delusion that if a virtual representation of yourself dies then your real self dies."

He's just taking .Hack to heart.

Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

You seem to be under some sort of delusion that if a virtual representation of yourself dies then your real self dies.

Be very careful what you say there, Erik. Don't give Hollywood any reasons to make more awful technophobe horror movies.

Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

It's been done and the movie sucked

Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

speaking of which, Jack has seen Brainscan one too many times.

岩「…Where do masochists go when they die?」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

 Pfft, everyone knows you 1up when you collect 100 coins.

Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

Maybe if some video game exec whose company makes a car-steling game has his daughter tragically run over by a stolen car driven by a teen, then the industry will "get it."

.....................Holy shit. You really want to do that. You really want to hurt someone like that, don't you? Don't you?!

Dennis! Dennis! Jack is really starting to freak me out. Should, uh....should something be done? Like, maybe...ban his new account...or notify the nearest Floridian police station, maybe...?

Game on, brothers and sisters.

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Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving


I think that qualifies as a threat, and could be called in to the police.

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Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

 I agree, for the safety of cars everywhere, we need to apprehend these girls now before its too late.

Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving


That desperate for a lay?  Have you seen some of these guy's daughters?  I am not calling anyone out, but I can think of one that really isn't that good looking...  and I know a few others that are not that amazing either.

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Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

 In my difference, they have to have good genes in there somewhere if daddy is on the cover of a fitness magazine.

Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

Here's a better idea. Just ignore him. He has no power anymore. All he's looking for is a reaction. Don't give it to him.

 

*Jack Thompson loves it when people argue with him. He whacks off to it! DON'T FEED THE TROLL!*

*Jack Thompson loves it when people argue with him. He whacks off to it! DON'T FEED THE TROLL!*

Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

Just ignore him. He has no power anymore.

If those lawyers and judges who filed complaints against Thompson decided to ignore him instead, he'd probably still have his power today. You think about that for a while, okay?

Come to think of it, about 20 years ago, I think the Florida Bar decided essentially to ignore him instead of doing something about his disgusting conduct. One reason why he had his power for so long.

Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

Just shut up already.

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Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

And you still gay for Zelnick... come on Jack, get out from the closet already...

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Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

Not a likely case Jack, how many psychology classes did you take in college?

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Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

Jack, why don't you focus on the teens and young adults who have these sort of problems playing these games and their parents, instead of trying to outlaw the games?  Oh right, because going after a game is much easier than trying to actually solve the root cause of the behavioral problems of these individuals and getting them the help, therapy, and guidance they need.  You claim to be a Christian, why don't you start acting like one?  (but then again so did priests who molested children and we all know how that's turned out)

Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

Yeah, 'cause it's completely beyond the realm of possibility that Zelnick would know or be related to someone in law enforcement.

 

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Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

 I'd like to see which game these two are playing.

Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

GTA.  Duh.

Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

With you its always GTA.

 - Warren Lewis

Consumer responsibility is just as important as Corporate responsibility. So, be responsible consumers.

Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

That picture was real satire, dumbass.

Game on, brothers and sisters.

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Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

Why the hell is it ALWAYS something Take Two related with you!?!?

Sure you wrote to someone about Fallout 3, but at the end you brought up GTA and Take Two. You're addicted to them.

Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

I think Jack Thompson has some kind of sexual depression with Take Two and its video games, or maybe a sick obsession. I can imagine Jack hiding in a bush outside the offices of Take Two, stalking it...
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Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

 Actually Jacko, the guy in the wheel barrel has no legs (obviously), so he was obviously playing minesweeper, not GTA.

Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

"They all play the game, they talk about the game, they tell their probation officers it's a game. It's a huge rush. They taunt the police on purpose to engage in chases."

I notice in this particular quote that it's not neccessarily a video game, just a game.  I don't doubt that in their minds, the kids think it's a game.  I do doubt that they think it's acting out a video game.  Remember that all sorts of people come up with their own adrenaline fueled events and call them games... no matter the age range, and this has been going on since before video games were so prevalent.

For a new scapegoat, might I suggest the kid moving a barrel hoop with a stick while running beside it from hundreds of years ago?  Seriously, the hoop could hit someone, and the stick could put an eye out.  And 10:1 that the kid makes a break for it.

Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

Ragnaar, were you born retarded, or did GTA make you retarded?  We need to find out.  Jack Thompson

Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

What? Been calling the kettle black again?

 - Warren Lewis

Consumer responsibility is just as important as Corporate responsibility. So, be responsible consumers.

Jack, did you have a high school education?

 

Are you retarded yourself, Jack.  Maybe you should have a brain check, as a matter of fact why don't you take another psych check.  Maybe you blackmail or bribe that examing psychiatrist the first time you had your psych check.

Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

Video games don't create 'retardedness,' Mr. Thompson, no matter how much you wish it were true.

Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

Again....What's your excuse?

Game on, brothers and sisters.

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Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

isn't it obvious? Jack was conceived retarded

岩「…Where do masochists go when they die?」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

 That kid must be really working that hoop to be a danger to others.

Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

They all play the game, they talk about the game, they tell their probation officers it's a game. It's a huge rush. They taunt the police on purpose to engage in chases.

I do that too. In games. Why don't I do it in real life if I enjoy it so much on the tellytron? Social responsibility and fear for my own safety. In games, we behave irresponsibly because ultimately we have no reason to be held responsible. Most of the time we can get away with anything just by quitting when it all goes pear-shaped. If playing too many games makes you forget that in real life, then 1) that's your own damn fault, and 2) it doesn't matter what the game was that caused you to think like that.

Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

Well this is obviously true right?

We've obviously seen a rash of youth Grand Theft Auto charges.  And I always go careening down the streets at 100mph weaving through traffic, running red lights, driving into oncoming traffic.  Not to mention deliberately smashing into cop cars to see how many I can get to chase me at once (i had a nice little parade going once).

Not to mention hitting pedestrians and then jacking the ambulance after it comes to get them.

Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

Yes, in fact we have seen a rash of these incidents.  Google it, goofball. Jack Thompson

Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

Is this like your nonexistant rash of slingshot injuries that were supposed to follow Bully's release?  Oh yeah that never happened.  I recall you also saying you were going to run for the seat of the judge in that case.  That never happened either.  Are you noticing a pattern here?

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

So were all those stolen cars back in the 1930's to 1950's caused by video game also, I assume.

Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

Once again, WHO'S 'WE'?

Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

I did google it.  Violent crime (including Grand Theft Auto charges) are down substantially.  That's according to the FBI and the DOJ.  But they're in on the conspiracy right?

As soon as I finish law school I am so responding to every post of yours with

"I'm a lawyer and you're not"

Oh that's gonna feel good.

Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving


While the crimes are down, they are being reported more often, especially with the internet being a full access portal now.  So I believe you are still wrong buddy, sorry...

I am seriously willing to fairly debate you.

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Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

I already know I don't need to.

If you were so confident, then you would have posted links to more incidences. Since you have neglected to do so, I know you're lying, again, then again that's no surprise.

Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

 Maybe thats why you lost so many of your cases Jack, you googled your evidence.

Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

wow. because if its on google it must be true! 

So, is google before or after wikipedia for you when it comes to quality reference sources?

 

geez. If i referenced something in a paper from 'google' id get failed on the spot. There is a reason for that DisbarredGuy. Learn it.

 

Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

Prove it or shut the fuck up, JTroll.

Game on, brothers and sisters.

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Re: Cops See Video Game Connection in Stolen Cars, Wild Driving

*Jack Thompson loves it when people argue with him. He whacks off to it! DON'T FEED THE TROLL!*
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