Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

November 25, 2008 -

In the United States, we generally relate our violence issues to easy access of firearms. In the UK, where guns are harder to come by, knives are the main source of concern.

Perhaps surprisingly, a panel of Merseyside teenagers blamed a wave of British stabbings on violent media, including video games. As reported by the Liverpool Daily Post, the teens suggested that age limits on some games be raised:

Ex-offender Bob Croxton, who’s now an outreach worker with Liverpool’s Criminal Information Bureaux, said his nephew had been stabbed to death at the age of 17.

He asked the panel the best way to tackle knife crime and was told raising the age on films and computer games would stop young people committing crime. It said parents should take care of their children and stop them hanging around the streets all day and night.

The panel responded to questions from officers from Merseyside Police, city councils and other youth and crime agencies. Action for Children, which supports and speaks on behalf of the vulnerable, organised the event as part of a government consultation.


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Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

Blaming music? That's even more idiotic than blaming video games. With video games there's the apparent violence factor to base some biased research off of but with music, there's really nothing but swearing and a lack of christian values. There's nothing wrong with either of those.

Parents should be a lot more responsible, but at the same time there's nothing wrong with listening to music with "bad words", and letting your kid do so doesn't make you an irresponsible parent.

Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

They say music can alter moods and talk to you, well can it load up a gun and cock it too?


Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

Jack actually shouldn't have posted that article, as it essentially derails his entire argument. It explains what dangers are present in videogames, yet reasonably so, and doesn't paint them as some great evil. The exact opposite of Jack's tactics of "videogames are ruining everyone and everything, trust me I know".

Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

 If anything, games (violent or not) are keeping kids inside and out of trouble. Boredom is the cause of most of this crap, and when their parents stop watching them this boredom will manifest itself through destructive tendencies. In my opinion, every instance of crime perpetrated by the child should result in both the child and the parents being charged. If you are indifferent to your childs daily activities, atleast you can have some quality time in jail together.

Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

So we are blaming the media for stupid people and not stupid people for stupid people and the continuation of crap media?

Lets do the world a favor and kill off the dumb ones(and game execs!)!

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Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

yet again its a knee jerk reaction, they don't need to raise age levels, as 18 is the age of majority in the UK, they just need to enforce laws already in place. When you question a bunch of teenagers, they don't answer with anything that they want to, they will answer with what they believe is the socially acceptable response.

If anything getting the kids off the streets playing video games would seem better than making it harder for them to find somewhere to have fun. Also in those poorer areas ofc there will be more "gamer knifings" as there aren't many people nowadays who have not touched a games console, plus these newspaper reporters don't give a crap about the fact someones mentally unstable, depraved and just down right messed up, if they owned a video game console then that is the reason for their rampage, not the sociopathic schizophrenia.

Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

 Is it just me or this guy in contradicting himself....

"He asked the panel the best way to tackle knife crime and was told raising the age on films and computer games would stop young people committing crime. It said parents should take care of their children and stop them hanging around the streets all day and night."

If the children are hanging around the streets all day and night, then they don't have a gaming addiction.

So even if we make believe that too much games can have a bad impact on kids, it doesn't apply to the kids mentioned in this article.  If anything, give them games, that will keep them off the streets and the attacks will go down.

 

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So much for the bogus argument that video games are good
 
for you. Hooah! Jack Thompson
 

http://www.playsavvy.com/articles/features/eight-valid-concerns-about-video-games/?page=1&icid=200100397x1213971308x1200922563

Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

HEY LOOK! POSTING IN ALL CAPS AND IN A HUGE FONT MAKES EVERYTHING I SAY TRUE!!!!!!111ONEELEVENTYONE

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Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

8. "They can be addictive"
So is alcohol. So is drugs. Hell, anything can be addictive in the hands of few. It's a valid description, but it seems... so centered towards games, as if it was like a drug.

And, once again, anything can be a drug. JT seems to be addicted to this site, and trolling said site.
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Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

Absolutely unsupported... and full of stereotyping, inference, and bias

Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

Did you actually read the article, or just sieze on something that casts a negative light on video games. So point for point...

1. "They can make kids less active"

Only to the same degree as reading books, and television is much worse. It's up to the parents to provide a good balance for children, set boundaries and encourage all kinds of activities. And just because a child is playing a computer game doesn't mean they're less active; sure physically they aren't moving much, but that dosen't mean their brain isn't doing backflips. The kid in the photo is obviously not playing any computer game, that kid is watching television.

2. "They can teach kids poor values"

If children are learning poor values from computer games then there is a fundamental problem with the way their parents are raising them. The game quoted by this article is Fable II, which has a mature rating (which the article fails to mention), and quite clearly states on the cover that it contains sexual themes and violence. If parents are letting their childen play these games then who is at fault?

3. "They can be violent"

Again if a game is violent it is clearly stated in it's rating on the cover of the disc. It seems like there's a common thread running through this, that parents need to take some resposibility for what their children are exposed to in their own homes. Crazy I know.

4. "They're expensive"

Relatively speaking, no, they're not. A trip to Disneyland is much more expensive, and you'll get many more hours of enjoyment out of a video game. And you don't need all the latest hardware and televisions etc to be able to enjoy them.

5. "They introduce kids to topics that parents might not be ready to discuss"

Well if parents aren't ready to discuss these topics then they should be taking an active role in what their children are being exposed to! It's not hard!

6. "They become a point of contention between siblings"

This article is just getting desperate here, stretching for reasons to try and shed a negative light on video games.  Contention between siblings is as natural as breathing, it just has to be managed well. This isn't even worth discussing as a negative point against video games.

7. "They're not as educational as you'd like them to be"

And lots of games aren't designed to be educational, the hint is in the description... 'game'. Although there are pleanty of games out there that will be educational, such as chess. Again, if you want your children playing educational games then take an active role in what they're being exposed to, like any good parent should.

8. "They can be addictive"

Psychologiaclly yes, they can be addctive, but if parents set sensible boundaries for their children then this isn't going to happen. For pity's sake all of this finger pointing at games and the gaming industry is completely, excuse the pun, pointless. 

 

This article hasn't exposed anything about computer games that isn't readily available in the word that describes them - games. The danger isn't in games themselves, it's in bad parenting. 

-- Olly

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Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

all of those can be applied to those Al Pachino movies you watch, Jack. The one where he said "hooah" is living proof.

岩「…Where do masochists go when they die?」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

any article that talks about danger to kids values, then talks about fallout 3, an 18 rated game which shouldnt be played by kids is entirely missing the point.

Its like saying 'Driving a car : dangerous for your 5 year old" .. dya think.

Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

I´m waiting for your next top 10: "Ten irrelevant reasons why I´m a disbared ex-lawyer" ...

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Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

They're concerns, dumbass, not facts.

Sortableturnip's Law: As an online discussion of video game violence grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Jack Thompson approaches 1

Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

I thought I told you to go to your room?!

And what the hell is this? You speaking about that childish nonsense again?! You go back to your room, young man! Your not only grounded from that blog of yours but your grounded from going on TV again!

NO! Don't want to hear your excuses. No more of that "but they harrassed me, mommy! It's their fault!" You aren't getting any dinner either!

Kids, these days... trying to prove a point. Stop trying to eat at the adult table. The kiddie table is to your left!

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Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

Faith in Christianity - Some of your regular practices.

Using said faith to wage war on video games - 1 law license

Treating Jack Thompson like a child - FUCKING PRICELESS

Amy, you win the fucking Internet! Keep them coming! 

Oh, and here's a cookie. Enjoy!

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Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

Yay cookie!

Amy Levandoski

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Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

And point of article.... TOTALLY MISSED.

 

Everything about that article pointed out what parents could do to be MORE RESPONSIBLE about their kids' gaming.

 

But god forbid parents be responsible. Then you'd be out ANOTHER job, wouldn't you, John?

Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

AOL is the best place for scientific research!!!  ...   what crap. That 'top 8 list' is mostly just someones opinions and not much to back it up. Lets get something straight with ALL 'top #' lists that yahoo and AOL like to have on their sites: They're usually based solely on the opinions of the writer, and they make em cause its their job to, so you usually end up with crappy topics that someone pulled outta their ass cause it was near the deadline and they couldn't think of anything good.

Look at one of the ones listed on that one: "They can be violent."   well no shit? thats why its rated M, as in not made for 8-12 year olds! but hey parents will just ignore that and buy it anyhow, nobody's fault but their own.

And unless you were in the military don't be acting like it by saying HOOAH! , how lame is that...

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Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

WTF are you talking about, idiot?

There are benefits and dangers from doing everything, so what exactly is your point, other than being an obnoxious prick, which is, admittedly, something you excel at.

I note you didn't bother read the first paragraph of the report either, else you would have known they were meaning you when they were going on about people trying to scapegoat games.

Seriously, talk about shooting yourself in the foot....

Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

you know i didnt see anything in that article that didnt put most of the responcibility on the parents...

as it should be parents are the main factor to managing a childs playtime with video games and such (IMO) they are the ones who need to watch what thier kids are playing...

*Swing and a miss* thats strike 2 for this article Jackie boy... got anything else that doesnt prove your point?

Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

Agreed. After reading the article, and then reading the posts afterwards, it made me wonder how many other people actually read the thing before just posting whatever blithering idiocy spawned from their knee-jerk reactive minds. Everyone seems to think tha the article is blasting games for being poison to kids, when really all it does is lay out some common sense...  Each point had a blurb encouraging parental guidance and responsibility, but all the comments boil down to 'O NOEZ! TEH GAMEZ IZ BAD' or ' LOL! AOL IZ TEH SUX0RZ!'

Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

Personally I do not think the study had nothing sensible to offer.

What I hate to see is people working under the assumption that games CAUSE social issues. Or movies, or music, or comic books for that matter.

It's ignorant witch hunting, and is designed specifically to do one of two things: Either a) to deliberately dodge the real issue, which would cost too much money and hassle to address, or b) to give attention to people like Thompson who use this issue, and others like it, to further their own exposure and career.

Anyone else who spouts this nonsense is just jumping on the bandwagon without really knowing what they're talking about - which is where the ignorance comes in.

Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

So.... you're siting AOL as a more credible source than actual scientific studies?

ROFL.

Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

They left off the ninth reason.  They can cause job loss.  See Jack for a primary example.

Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

Wow, yet another pile of BS. I think that article was meant as a joke than anything else.

You insult our troops everytime you say "Hooah". You're not a soldier and never were, jabroni. Hell, son, you're a traitor to America everytime you attack American pop culture.

Practice what you preach, Metropolitian Moron of Miami: Grow up and get a life.

Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Hornets, Jack Thompson can geaux chase a chupacabra.

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Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

Nice to see that our side of the generation gap is also worried about any link.

Though, rating increasing will only help VERY minimally. Try enforcing your current laws instead of making new ones. I hear they work.

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Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

Step 1: Some ex-junkie kid with a criminal family and incomplete education blames violence on games.

Step 2: EVERYBODY PANIC

Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

Step 3: Tranq the panic-stricken mob.

Step 4: Arrest Idiot for instigating a riot.

Step 5: Show research point to the fact that any links between electronic entertainment and violence is speculative at best.

Step 6: Facepalm as mob ignores research and starts rioting again.

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Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

Give me a day and fifty dollars, and I could find a panel of people who said that 9/11 was planned by George Bush. Doesn't prove anything.

But logic has never been a tool in the anti-video-game toolbox.

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Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

Every violent person I know who acts violent or aggressive is either:
A) Lives in a rough neighbourhood
B) Hungs out with other violent people
C) Have bad relationship with parents (family violence)

I don't know any violent people that doesn't fit under that.

Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

Every time Jack Thompson posts, I feel the need to knife something. Therefore, Jack Thompson should not be allowed around other people as he incites violence.

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EDIT: Nevermind.

Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

Come on people, you need to look at the facts here; if a panel of teenagers have come to the unbiased conclusion that violent video games are the cause for knife attacks, who are we to argue?

-- Olly

-- Olly

Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

LOL

Thing is, you give some teenagers a questionaire to fill out for an official source, and they won't speak their mind, they'll treat it like an exam, not trying to give the answers that they feel are really 'right', but what they think the people reading those questioniares want to see. It's ground into us from a very early age.

Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

Exactly! What teenager would actually want restrictions placed on the games and movies made available to them? 

-- Olly

-- Olly

Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

Way to pass the blame there kids. And by kids I mean the U.K. teens on this panel who seem to think video games are the problem. The real problem is that human beings like to kill each other. Ban guns, they go to stabbing. Ban knives, they go to clubbing. Ban clubs, they learn kung fu. And so on.

And as for Jack's little comment...Aw fuck it, it doesn't even warrant response.

Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

One must assume that the kids are already playing games that they are underage for as the games normally singled out for blame usually carry 18 certificates (such as the GTA series), and a child is anyone under 18. Raising the age certificate on the games won't make a difference, and would end up making certification pointless as most content would in the highest categories possible (whereas games are spread out across the certificates).

Also let's not forget that knives carry an age rating of 18 on them, so presumably the children are acquiring them underage too (although they could just take the knives from their parent's kitchens).

I do tend to agree with the comments posted by Thompson (except that it is slanted to attack games). Crimes with knives have gone up as gun ownership is illegal, because criminals will try to get hold the next easily available weapon. If knives were to be made illegal crime with baseball bats would increase. It seems that Thompson is aiming for gun ownership to be legalised (something I completely disagree with), but this would only lead to an increase in gun related crime. When talking about youth crime you can technically call them gamers (as the majority of youngsters these days play games), but that is not to say that games are responsible or an influence on crime, it usually comes down to drugs (most of these gangs have strong connections to drug dealing). But naming games as being responsible for crimes is likely to make more headlines than naming the real reason, drugs.

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"He asked the panel the best way to tackle knife crime and was told raising the age on films and computer games would stop young people committing crime."

Yes, because as we all know, crimes weren't committed before films and computer games were invented, and crime went through the roof after the Atari, Intellivision and ZX Spectrum hit the store shelves in the 1980s.

Honestly, the stupidity of my fellow Britons never ceases to amaze me.  I guess they get these 'panels' from the same place TV talk show hosts find families with teen pregnancies.  Anyone would think, judging by the panel's comments, that the 19th century must have been a crime-free era of peace and prosperity for all.  I wonder what prompted the Ripper murders of 1888 - must have been the fault of the Penny Dreadfuls and Music Hall.  The probability that the ripper was a complete psycho who hated prostitutes and probably women in general had nothing to do with it.  Similarly, the Yorkshire Ripper murders of the mid 1970s must have been caused by citizen's Band radio and watching too much Starsky and Hutch - it couldn't possibly be that the Yorkshire Ripper was a nutter.

Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

Of course! It all makes sense now! Poverty and drugs have nothing to do with crime, it's all video games. Even 200 hundred years ago when there were no video games, the fact that video games were going to be invented must have had SOMETHING to do with it!

It all makes sense now...

Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

OK ya know what kiddies ? I've been reading this site for a long time, but have never posted... content to read the interesting and intelligent (for the most part :) ) posts by you lovely people...

However, this subject is very close to my heart and makes me very angry - as I know it does all you happy gaming campers out there. So today I felt the need to vent in response to another prejudiced witch hunt by ignorant people.

I guess this is kinda directed at Thompson (since he is one of the worst offenders and may or may not read it), but indirectly it is directed at all people who insist on coming out with these ridiculous claims and finger pointing 'studies' regarding video games. I realise that Thompson doesn't respond to any reasoned argument or sensible question, but here we go anyway...

The argument put forth by most game-blaming pundits seems to be that violent/mature media (video games in particular these days) awake violent and anti-social feelings and behaviours in impressionable young people, which in turn leads to these young people commiting violent and anti-social acts in the real world.

When thinking about that I find my mind wandering back to an old stand up comedy routine (can't remember who now - might have been Izzard) in which he described an image comprising of a man with established social or mental problems, sitting alone in his living room, polishing his shotgun with a wild look in his eye while watching a violent movie. The question to be asked is : "and the violent movie is the part of this equation you have a problem with ????".

Even if solid evidence existed to prove that violent media affects behaviour (which I personally have yet to see), then surely all right thinking people agree that the most it can do is act as a catalyst to a pre-existing problem with an individual. In other words, if your pre-disposed to commit a violent act, then watching an episode of the Care Bears could just as easily set you off as a couple of hours with GTAIV.

The match is unimportant... it's the fact that there's a fuse to light in the first place that's the problem we should be trying to solve.

I find it staggering sometimes that people insist on arguing contrary to this.

Furthermore... In identifying this problem (as always in situations like this) the reaction seems to be to allocate blame rather than discuss solutions.

People seem to want to blame, in no particular order; the game makers for making the games in the first place, the console manufacturers for having the audacity to offer a platform on which to play these games, or the retailers for stocking them on their shelves.

There is a very simple and straight forward response to this... On my XBOX360 I have parental contol options. Within these options I can tell my XBOX to never play a game or movie which carries a rating above a certain level. Once configured if my teenage offspring were to put a movie or game into the machine which is rated above my chosen plateau IT WILL NOT WORK !

In other words, we have the tools to control this situation. They're available, in place, simple, straightforward and they work.

I know for a fact that there are parental control tools available for PC's too, so with a bit of research and responsibility the same model can be applied there also...

This, combined with the ratings system, are all the tools we need, as parents, or society as a whole, to combat the few that slip through the net. These solutions should free us up from picking petty holes in the retail model, the game content or the supposed affects of media on mental state.

Once freed from these surface concerns we can start to focus our energies on the social and psycological issues which are obviously (to anyone thinking clearly it seems to me) the root of individual problems which may occur.

I am not going to say that 'I have played video games all my life and I've never shot anyone', because it's irrelevant. My behaviour and background have shown that I am not a person pre-disposed to anti-social or violent behaviour, so it doesn't matter what I play/watch/listen to, I'm not going to go out after work tonight to beat up old ladies.

All reputable studies that have ever been published support this point of view.

Crime rates have consistently dropped in all developed Nations over the last 30 years.

No crime has ever been proven to have been commited by someone as a result of their exposure to any kind of media; even if they WERE exposed to certain types of media, and even if they tried to get away with it by saying so.

I hate ignorance in all it's forms, and ignorance is the chief behaviour displayed by the people who are distracting us from talking about and solving any social problems we have in the world right now.

My sincere apologies for this long and ranty first post everyone, but this little tirade has been bubbling under the surface of my typing fingers for a long time now, and today I just had to go ahead and type it.

Peace (in all it's forms).

Jess.

Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

Well said!

-- Olly

-- Olly

Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

In the United States, we generally relate our violence issues to easy access of firearms. In the UK, where guns are harder to come by, knives are the main source of concern.

Which is a quite amusing paradox considering that our rate of fatal stabbings is higher and their rate of shootings has increased since the '97 gun ban. Just looking at raw stats, I don't see what all the fuss is regarding "knife crime" over there. Not sure what the non-fatal knife stats are like, but one extra fatal stabbing per million increase in the last few years is hardly an epidemic.

But, then, we can't let little things like facts get in the way of a good moral panic, now, can we?

Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

Yup, and not only that, the total amount of knife crime in the UK has decreased for a record amount of years sequentially.

Youth knife crime is up, but that may well be the fault of the News. For example, there was a town in Wales where teenage suicides were becoming a problem. The moment it actually hit the News, the suicide rate shot up to record amounts, to the point where the citizens actually asked the News to stop reporting it because it was actually encouraging the problem.

It's like an X-Factor mentality about everything. In many ways Thompson is a shining example of this.

Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

yeah its odd. London is apparently the centre of this knife  'epidemic'

yet if you compare london to a simlar sized city in the US (like new york) the knife crime rate is actually lower in london!

n nobody reports abouta knife crime 'epidemic' in new york.

Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

This seems to be a case of "wild stab in the dark" They have some of the issues right, but also contra-wise some of them wrong.

Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

See, more stabbing! The epidemic continues!


Re: Panel of UK Teens Blames Knife Violence on Games, Music

*sigh* Once again humanity giving CPR to heal a bullet wound to the head (so to speak).

 
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MaskedPixelanteUnless you have said DLC already, then you can get the equally broken FarCry 4.11/26/2014 - 2:15pm
WonderkarpI love Boogie. He's awesome.11/26/2014 - 2:02pm
PHX Corphttp://kotaku.com/ubisoft-apologizes-for-assassins-creed-unity-with-free-1663768202 [Sarcasm]Ubisoft Apologizes for making a broken game, gives out free dlc for said broken game[/sarcasm]11/26/2014 - 1:53pm
Andrew EisenIt's a cute joke to make but it’s important to note that the person's view is not gendered. It's not about not supporting a female dev, it's about not supporting GamerGate. Gender is irrelevant in this case.11/26/2014 - 1:10pm
Neo_DrKefkaToo add what Andrew said about the The Ralph Retort it is no different from what you read at Gawker. I remember reading The Ralph Retort on how Boogie was the bad guy from being on the fence until he jumped to the GamerGate side.11/26/2014 - 12:42pm
Wonderkarpthat, I do not know the answer too. I see some people saying they wont vote for her because of it. I'm pointing out the irony.11/26/2014 - 12:31pm
Andrew EisenIs this call to not vote for her game widespread or is it just the one tweet from the one guy?11/26/2014 - 12:19pm
Wonderkarphttps://twitter.com/GMShivers here's her twitter if you wanna look. I didnt see any harassment. 11/26/2014 - 12:07pm
 

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