Young Boys Hang Kitten with Game Controller Cord After Playing GTA

December 5, 2008 -

It's so over-the-top awful that it almost sounds like a parody headline, but that's the report on AZfamily.com.

Apparently a pair of unsupervised boys, six and seven years-old, stoned a kitten and then strung it up following a Grand Theft Auto session. They reportedly used the controller cable in lieu of a rope.

The incident occurred in late October in Mesa, Arizona, but details are just beginning to emerge. Here's more from the AZfamily.com coverage:

The investigation began [when] deputies went to the neighborhood of one of the two boys... and found the kitten hanging by its neck from a backyard tree. The boys had apparently used a wire from the video game controller they were playing, Grand Theft Auto, to hoist up the kitten. The animal's head had been injured by blows from a rock.

[Maricopa County Sheriff Joe] Arpaio questions why these young children were allowed to play such a violent video game.

“This game allows players to kill cops and rape women,” Arpaio says. “It’s little wonder why they perpetrated such violence against that little animal.”

The boys are too young to prosecute under Arizona law and, for some reason, don't meet the guidelines for intervention by child protective services.


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Re: Young Boys Hang Kitten with Game Controller Cord After

These kids are sick and need to be institutionalized. Seriously… they need to be watched for other signs of sadism before someone gets hurt (unless it's already too late).
"I'd far rather be happy than right any day."

Re: Young Boys Hang Kitten with Game Controller Cord After

Step 1: some form of abuse/neglect

Step 2: torturing animals

Step 3: school shooting or other human related murder

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Re: Young Boys Hang Kitten with Game Controller Cord After

No, more like serial killers.

Re: Young Boys Hang Kitten with Game Controller Cord After

2 young children showing the 1st signs of being sociopaths.

I don't think the game was the real motivator.

Re: Young Boys Hang Kitten with Game Controller Cord After

Considering within the last year there were national headlines of both a group of young girls who doused a kitten with gasoline and set it on fire and (a few weeks ago) a bunch of young boys using a kitten as a football..... neither of these were associated with video games so yeah... not a video game issue, a sociopath issue.

Unfortunatly our legal system tends to look the other way when getting your sociopathic jollies out on animals so even if they were adults they probably wouldn't get charged with much.  *SNIP*

EZK: Don't write invitations for vigilante justice we don't need it.

Re: Young Boys Hang Kitten with Game Controller Cord After

Why doesn't PeTA go after people who pull this shit?  It is a lot worse than eating animals, or killing them for food.

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Re: Young Boys Hang Kitten with Game Controller Cord After

Because PETA believes in the destruction of domesticated animals for being flawed representation of the species. They were ruined by human interaction.

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Re: Young Boys Hang Kitten with Game Controller Cord After

No it's because PETA just like any other group doesn't get to be vigilantes no matter how much they want to. But who knows they may try to contact the kids and try to talk them into to seeing how bad cruelty is.

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Re: Young Boys Hang Kitten with Game Controller Cord After

" PETA just like any other group doesn't get to be vigilantes "

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

That has never stopped them before.

Opening animal cages to liberate confined and abused animals. (I.E. Opening kennels at dog shows and screaming at the dogs to run away from their oppressive masters.)

Having a peaceful protest for the abolishment of murder. (IE protested hunting near my home town in Georgia, they beat one of the hunters into a coma, BTW)

Supporting the neccessary destruction of potentionally harmful breeds of animals. (Paid a guy to go around and adopt dogs from animal shelters and then kill said dogs and throw their bodies in a dumpster. He killed well over a hundred and plenty of puppies were in that number)

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Re: Young Boys Hang Kitten with Game Controller Cord After

Dude that's messed up.

I hope those protestors were prosecuted.

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Re: Young Boys Hang Kitten with Game Controller Cord After

hell no they won't have, remember these are the kinds of people who indulge in terrorism, violence towards people and property in the name of animal rights, there is no "peaceful" in their dictionary, tbh if I could I'd build an "animal research lab" wait till people like these start kicking off, then announce I'm not going to finish building my "lab for research into diseases in animals" and see what they do next.

Re: Young Boys Hang Kitten with Game Controller Cord After

Seriously, did you just recommend that people go out, find these SEVEN YEAR OLDS, and hurt them? Who is the sociopath now?

Re: Young Boys Hang Kitten with Game Controller Cord After

Not really.  A sociopath takes pleasure in hurting others for it's own sake.

I mearly wish for parity, justice, or at absolute minimum the elimination of threat (either via treatment or removing the person from sociaty)

Re: Young Boys Hang Kitten with Game Controller Cord After

That is sadism. Not all sociopaths ar sadists.

A sociopath/psychopath, in the most simple terms is someone who just doesn't feel empathy or guilt. A person without a conscience.

 

 

Re: Young Boys Hang Kitten with Game Controller Cord After

Lack of conscience is one of the criteria for sociopaths.   It also requires gratification for violent acctions and inability to learn from past mistakes.

Re: Young Boys Hang Kitten with Game Controller Cord After

Man, at fist you seem like a reasonable person, but the more of your posts I read the more you seem like a scary person to share a society with. Also, you talk about your wish for "parity, justice", which Jesus, btw, said were not the same thing, but really what I heard you say was that the idea of those kids hurting that cat pissed you off and now you want to take out that aggression on the kids. Outside of the law, you obliquely said. Guess what? That sounds like sociopathic behavior to me, disregarding the rules in order to satisfy your own anger. Pretty narcissistic, huh?

Re: Young Boys Hang Kitten with Game Controller Cord After

*shrug* I care more about cats then about humans.

Think about how people would react if this was a story about a couple of, say, adult males hanging a little girl and beating her to death, then recieving no punishment because they slipped through the legal requirement so they are right back out on the street to do it again since now they know there is no consequence.

As for parity and justice.. you are right, classic christian law did not make them the same thing.  Typically parity was a milder form of justice.. usually if X did Y to Z, Z got to do (Y+A) to X.  Jesus toned to down TOO 'an eye for an eye' whih was considered a liberal 'feel good' version of jewish law at the time.  And of course the romans had the entire 'you owe the state' system that we used today that moderated things further.

As for me being scary?  While I am harmless and functional, I am actually a mild psychopath, so yes, my perspective DOES tend to be a bit differnt then most of the population ^_~  You would be surprised just how many functional psychopaths there are in sociaty, most are even nice people.  It is generally only the ones who get violent and kill that anyone ever hears about.

Re: Young Boys Hang Kitten with Game Controller Cord After

I think he was talking about giving them psycholgical help.

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Re: Young Boys Hang Kitten with Game Controller Cord After

While in my gut I would rather see them removed from sociaty completely (I always get angry when people escape punishment for doing horrible things), in reality, yeah, I would want someone to go out and get them help.

This is actually a classic example of where public healthcare should be a public responsiblity.  By not treating these kids, they will likly grow up a danger to every one around them, which makes them a problem to sociaty as a whole.  Sociaty has an interest in protecting it'self and thus has an interest in pooling resources and provide the healthcare to reduce the threat.

Re: Young Boys Hang Kitten with Game Controller Cord After

Dude, it is spelled society.

Re: Young Boys Hang Kitten with Game Controller Cord After

Congradualtions, you discovered that I can't spell. (or more actually, I have a variation on dyslexia that makes it not only dificult to spell but I can't tell when  a word is spelled wrong either)

Re: Young Boys Hang Kitten with Game Controller Cord After

I am clutter-blind. That is why my house is always trashed.

Seriously, I am only dyslexic with numbers in a sequence. It is why I do horrible for most math problems presented where I have to show my work. In the ol' noodle I can figure out the equations fine, but for some reason I get confused when writing the work....I don't understand how the hell that works, but it does.

On a different note, I can solve word problems with great ease.

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I am ze BEST! The editor didn't seem to think so, he edited the post.

Re: Young Boys Hang Kitten with Game Controller Cord After

Don't get me started on that as of late.  They tend to do that far more often now.

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Re: Young Boys Hang Kitten with Game Controller Cord After

Don't be a wanker and it doesn't happen.

Re: Young Boys Hang Kitten with Game Controller Cord After

As far as I can see, the only problem with this is the old rape scapegoat.

Oh, and the fact that two boys were playing GTA in the first place. Mustn't forget that.

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Re: Young Boys Hang Kitten with Game Controller Cord After

Yay. The rape accusation comes out again.

Also I don't remember hearing anything about being able to hang anyone let alone cats in GTA.

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Re: Young Boys Hang Kitten with Game Controller Cord After

 Dang I missed that one ... I guess they consider paying for sex the same thing as rape ... 

Re: Young Boys Hang Kitten with Game Controller Cord After

Acutally, in many places prostitution is always forced, a.k.a sexual slavery. There are some people who think that all prostitution is rape or has component of force in it. Now, the people who made the comment about rape in that murder simulator, GTA, were just being sensationalist bastards, but there are real issues that should not be dismissed when it comes to prostitution and slavery in the modern world. I doubt it went down like it is being reported. What evidence do they have? Why did this come out SO long after the fact? Fishy, very fishy to me. Especially the way the officer talks about GTA, "Murder cops and rape women", it sounds like he has been reading some of Jack Thompson's work.

Re: Young Boys Hang Kitten with Game Controller Cord After

"There are some people who think that all prostitution is rape or has component of force in it."

We call those people ignorant, or in some cases morons.

Yeah I know some people are forced through status to be prostitutes but some people actually choose to do that kind of work when they don't have to.

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Re: Young Boys Hang Kitten with Game Controller Cord After

True, but often in those places other forms of work are also basicly slavery.

The sex part ads a nice hook but the problem tends to be much more general.   While there are definatly real problems  with sexual slavery in the world,  I've always found the idea that 'sex' slavery is the 'big' problem rather distateful since it goes back to the old sexism that a woman's primary value is her viginity and thus any form of work (volentary of involentary) devalues her.

Yeah, sex work sucks (no pun intended) but so does working in a chemical factory as a child with no safty or labor regulations, or being shoved down a mine all day, or many other nasty low end indentured/slavery jobs.

Re: Young Boys Hang Kitten with Game Controller Cord After

Yeah, but the child workers you are talking about generally weren't kidnapped and forced into the work, and even though the wage they earn is low, it is a wage. The largest form of true slavery that still exists in the world today is sexual slavery. Look it up.

Re: Young Boys Hang Kitten with Game Controller Cord After

Most women that are prostitues were not forced into their way of life either.

I could look at statistics all day, but as has been proven time and time again, statistics are usually represented in a way that try and prove a point instead of properly representing the findings. It isn't that they blatantly lie, so much as they twist the truth to fill a niche.

Take, for example, the study that said 80% of women in college are raped. When you examined the study done it viewed rape as any one of the five following scenarios:

1. Forceful unwilling sex

2. Sex while unconcious (date rape)

3. Sex after the consumption of any amount of alcohol

4. If you regret having sex the day prior to the act.

5. If you first said no and after any form of coercion (kissing, dirty talk, etc.) agreed to have consensual sex.

When you see what the study represents fully, you can clearly see how 80% of college women can be 'raped'. Although you wouldn't personally considered a large portion of that 80% as actual rape victims.

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Re: Young Boys Hang Kitten with Game Controller Cord After

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4. If you regret having sex the day prior to the act.

5. If you first said no and after any form of coercion (kissing, dirty talk, etc.) agreed to have consensual sex."

So using that logic, let's say my friends dared me into downing something really really spicy. They egged me on, so I ate it and then regretted it (since I generally don't like very spicy foods). That would be the same as them physically forcing me to eat it.

Or by the same logic, let's say that I tried something new at an exotic restaurant I never heard of before, I ate it, regretted ordering it and wala I'm forced to eat it.

You can also argue number 3 shouldn't count as rape. If you go drunk driving you'll get arrested, other than endangering others the logic seems to be that you're legally responsible for what you do when you're drunk. Now if you have sex with someone while drunk, then you get to prosecute your sober partner. Makes no sense unless you were physically forced to drink.

Reminds me of a study done saying guns in a home are X times more likely to kill a loved one. They forgot to mention though that they counted suicides on the number of times it killed a loved one. (It was either EZK who mentioned it or it was another forum entirely, can't remember).

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Re: Young Boys Hang Kitten with Game Controller Cord After

"3. Sex after the consumption of any amount of alcohol" - So almost every woman on Earth will be raped at some point. 

"4. If you regret having sex the day prior to the act." - This doesn't make any sense.  If they meant "after" instead of "prior," then it only makes grammatical sense.  Basically, it could be rape if the sex was bad.

"5. If you first said no and after any form of coercion (kissing, dirty talk, etc.) agreed to have consensual sex." - Rape is a violent act.  Consensual sex is not.

"That's not ironic. That's justice."

Re: Young Boys Hang Kitten with Game Controller Cord After

Yeah, I meant after instead of prior in number 4.

Yes, now you see why the numbers are bogus for their study. It is something that gets done quite frequently.

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Re: Young Boys Hang Kitten with Game Controller Cord After

Often, yes they were.

The regions that have the kidnapped child sex workers usually have children being kidnapped for other types of work too, often military.  Many of them are not paid either.

And yes, I am famliar with the sexual slavery issue, since it impacts a community that I am part of I tend to keep track of it.

Re: Young Boys Hang Kitten with Game Controller Cord After

They need to legalize prostitution in the US so they can keep track of sexually transmitted disease testing, and be able to crack down underage and forced prostitution.

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Re: Young Boys Hang Kitten with Game Controller Cord After

For reference, see Nevada state law regarding prostitution and how it works there.  It fully supports what DT is saying.

Re: Young Boys Hang Kitten with Game Controller Cord After

Penn & Teller did a story on this.  It was pretty interesting.  Basically, it's dangerous to be a prostitute where it's illegal to be a prostitute, but where it's legal (Nevada brothels), it's actually pretty safe.

"That's not ironic. That's justice."

Re: Young Boys Hang Kitten with Game Controller Cord After

 So what were not going to blame the parents for not being around ... or I don't know have them anaylsed for psychological problems because they were playing a video game ... yeah thats smart ... its all the games fault ... I doubt they have any underlying psychological problems or lack of parenting issues its all those evil games.

For crying out loud ... there needs to be a test to be allowed to reproduce if you answer any question placing blame on something other than your crappy parenting then you arent allowed to be a parent.

Re: Young Boys Hang Kitten with Game Controller Cord After

Nah, man! It's all the evil of wired contollers! Those should be outlawed! Please, everyone, for your kitten's sake, BUY WIRELESS!
 
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