Video Game Biz Involved in Effort to Lobby Obama Transition Team
Video Game Biz Involved in Effort to Lobby Obama Transition Team
December 15, 2008
Barack Obama does not take office until January 20th, but the video game industry is already lobbying the President-elect, via an intermediary.
The game industry's issue, at this point, is copyright protection. Along with the likes of the RIAA (music biz) and MMPA (movie biz), video game publishers trade group the Entertainment Software Association belongs to an organization known as the International Intellectual Property Alliance. It is the IIPA which is doing the actual lobbying.
Toward that end, the IIPA has provided the Obama team with its list of Copyright Industry Global Challenges for 2008, and is believed to have met with them as well. For its part, the Obama team, in an effort at greater government transparency, has listed all outside lobbying efforts - including the IIPA's - at its remarkable Change.gov website.
Among the game-related concerns cited in the document are:
- Internet-based piracy
- Optical disc piracy
- End-user piracy
- Cartridge-based video game piracy
- Open access to foreign markets
GP: There's nothing new or especially egregious in the IIPA document - unlike the MPAA's separate effort to convince Obama to adopt IP enforcement measures which would essentially throw consumers' due process rights under a bus.
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Posted 11/07/09 at 04:27pm
ZippyDSMlee: man I got alot of junk and dup files too >< god I need orginization...and no not the knee capping media mafia kind :P
ZippyDSMlee: man I got alot of junk and dup files too >< god I need orginization...and no not the knee capping media mafia kind :P
Posted 11/07/09 at 04:26pm
ZippyDSMlee: replaced :P
ZippyDSMlee: replaced :P
Posted 11/07/09 at 04:23pm
ZippyDSMlee: beemoh:hey its like 60GB porn,400GB anime 100GB games and crap I have took from all my DVDs, I hate waiting on dvds to install stuff..... oh and 40GB of my porn was in the found.000 folder...mostly corrupted.... least I got names of wut needs to be repa
ZippyDSMlee: beemoh:hey its like 60GB porn,400GB anime 100GB games and crap I have took from all my DVDs, I hate waiting on dvds to install stuff..... oh and 40GB of my porn was in the found.000 folder...mostly corrupted.... least I got names of wut needs to be repa
Posted 11/07/09 at 04:18pm
beemoh: @Zip: ...and you'd have to spend all that time re-downloading that porn?
beemoh: @Zip: ...and you'd have to spend all that time re-downloading that porn?
Posted 11/07/09 at 03:34pm
ZippyDSMlee: ggrrrrr......vista lost one of my hard drives and I had a heart attack thinking I lost 1TB of data....
ZippyDSMlee: ggrrrrr......vista lost one of my hard drives and I had a heart attack thinking I lost 1TB of data....
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:58am
JDKJ: Which could be explained by both (a) and (b).
JDKJ: Which could be explained by both (a) and (b).
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:56am
Austin_Lewis: JDKJ: You forgot C) the fact that, for some reason, every time he did something that would suggest he shouldn't be in the military, let alone an officer, higher ups ignored it or let it slide.
Austin_Lewis: JDKJ: You forgot C) the fact that, for some reason, every time he did something that would suggest he shouldn't be in the military, let alone an officer, higher ups ignored it or let it slide.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:51am
JDKJ: Part of the problem is, I believe, that (a) the Army had a lot of time and money already invested in him and which they were unwilling to simply write-off and (b) an increasing need for the type of skills and services he provided.
JDKJ: Part of the problem is, I believe, that (a) the Army had a lot of time and money already invested in him and which they were unwilling to simply write-off and (b) an increasing need for the type of skills and services he provided.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:48am
JDKJ: And that even if he was begging not to get cut loose, he was apparently a real good candidate for being cut loose, anyway.
JDKJ: And that even if he was begging not to get cut loose, he was apparently a real good candidate for being cut loose, anyway.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:11am
JDKJ: @chada: And while Kennedy once noted that there's usually more than enough blame for everyone to get a slice, the possibility that the Army was unwilling to cut loose someone who was asking to get cut loose could be a factor.
JDKJ: @chada: And while Kennedy once noted that there's usually more than enough blame for everyone to get a slice, the possibility that the Army was unwilling to cut loose someone who was asking to get cut loose could be a factor.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:07am
ZippyDSMlee: *noms on his feet*..nomnomnomnom*droooll* ...wuuutttttt uuu looking at?
ZippyDSMlee: *noms on his feet*..nomnomnomnom*droooll* ...wuuutttttt uuu looking at?
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:05am
JDKJ: I'm no psychologist, but I'm told that crazy people have a tendency to do crazy things.
JDKJ: I'm no psychologist, but I'm told that crazy people have a tendency to do crazy things.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:03am
chadachada321: Whoops, was out of the convo for awhile. I do wonder what type of ammo he used etc, but the real issue is WHY he did it, not HOW
chadachada321: Whoops, was out of the convo for awhile. I do wonder what type of ammo he used etc, but the real issue is WHY he did it, not HOW
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:56am
JDKJ: But if it turns out that they actually did, they'll have Hell to pay.
JDKJ: But if it turns out that they actually did, they'll have Hell to pay.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:45am
JDKJ: And I'd tend to rule out the possibilty of FN Herstal supplying restricted ammunition to someone merely because they're ordering it from a military base.
JDKJ: And I'd tend to rule out the possibilty of FN Herstal supplying restricted ammunition to someone merely because they're ordering it from a military base.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:37am
JDKJ: I know you don't leave your gated community and get around much in dark alleys, so you may be surprised to learn that there's this thing called "the black market" where, if you've got enough money, ain't too much of anything which can't be bought.
JDKJ: I know you don't leave your gated community and get around much in dark alleys, so you may be surprised to learn that there's this thing called "the black market" where, if you've got enough money, ain't too much of anything which can't be bought.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:36am
Austin_Lewis: Or, maybe he or someone else at the base ordered the SS190 from FN Herstal.
Austin_Lewis: Or, maybe he or someone else at the base ordered the SS190 from FN Herstal.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:32am
Austin_Lewis: the hands of private owners. They run about 300 dollars minimum for a box of 50, and boxes of AP 5.7 are extremely scarce, mainly residing in the hands of Class III stores or individuals who for one reason or another got a demo box of it.
Austin_Lewis: the hands of private owners. They run about 300 dollars minimum for a box of 50, and boxes of AP 5.7 are extremely scarce, mainly residing in the hands of Class III stores or individuals who for one reason or another got a demo box of it.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:30am
Austin_Lewis: There are other firearms that fire the 5.7. However, I too would like to know where he got the ammo and what kind was used. Maybe Hasan, planning not to live through this, went out and bought one the boxes of SS190 that are floating around in
Austin_Lewis: There are other firearms that fire the 5.7. However, I too would like to know where he got the ammo and what kind was used. Maybe Hasan, planning not to live through this, went out and bought one the boxes of SS190 that are floating around in
Posted 11/07/09 at 08:44am
JDKJ: And it isn't yet clear what type of ammunition Hasan used. It's strange that he purchased a gun but didn't purchase ammunition for it at the same place and time. Especially because the calibre required is peculiar to the actual gun.
JDKJ: And it isn't yet clear what type of ammunition Hasan used. It's strange that he purchased a gun but didn't purchase ammunition for it at the same place and time. Especially because the calibre required is peculiar to the actual gun.
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Die, ESA.
Obama's platform is FAIR AND SANE copyright reform.
The exact quote from Change.gov is:
"Protect American Intellectual Property at Home: Update and reform our copyright and patent systems to promote civic discourse, innovation, and investment while ensuring that intellectual property owners are fairly treated."
FAIRLY TREATED does not mean you get free reign to sue your customers instead of adapting to change, it does not mean you get to snoop the internet and attempt to shut down anyone and anything you like, and it does NOT MEAN you get to spy on your customers via SecuROM and Starforce.
The sooner that the ESA, MPAA, and RIAA die from lack of members, the better.
Hahaah. Yeah, fair and sane reforms. Like the fairness doctrine. OH WAIT.
Let's face it, all they have to do is buy Biden a few dinners and he'll help them fuck the consumers over some more.
Something tells me it'd take a bit more than that. Biden's not a senator now, and he and Obama have bigger and more critical things to worry about.
-Gray17
Biden'll still be the same asshole willing to undermine the people's rights for a few fancy dinners. People don't change. ESPECIALLY not politicians. They pretend to change, sure, but its a farce like most things they say.
Well, being Vice President basically politically neuters Biden, so stop whining.
Really? That's funny, I didn't hear the same rhetoric about Palin. Hmm. A double standard, eh?
Besides, Obama claimed to have picked him for his 'experience', meaning he'll very likely be asking him for help
"Besides, Obama claimed to have picked him for his 'experience', meaning he'll very likely be asking him for help"
Oh i see, NOW you believe in something Obama says... when he says something you might consider good its just lies and politics, but when he says something you see as a negative it must be true. Ah of course, that IS how these things work.
I'm saying the reason Obama claimed to have picked him, I'm not saying I believe it. I don't believe that having an entrenched politican (or, as Obama is forming, a group of them) is going to do anything positive for the country. Of course, nor do I have faith in a man whose greatest political achievement is running for higher office.
This just in: Obama does NOT want to reinstate the fairness doctrine, so your precious Rush Limbaugh can shut the hell up.
Really? I'm fairly certain I saw him on TV talking about it just a week or two ago.
I do love the Change.gov website. It's already revealed the MPAA's BS, which I hope is enough for them to back off on it. Hell hath no fury like the combined nerd rage of millions of internet users.
Pretty cut and dry for the most part with regards to game IP "theft". I'll be more worried when they list detailed plans for how to combat it, as I'm expecting it to be something along the lines of "sue the pants off of them based on little or no verifiable evidence". In our current climate, though, I'm not expecting this to be a big issue or to get Obama/Biden's notice just yet. There's way too many important issues for them to deal with and I'd be surprised if IP issues took center stange early on in their first term.
Now later on in the term, or during their possible second term, it's a bit more of a reality. We'll just have to wait and see I guess.
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* Internet-based piracy: Requires a tiered net as so authorities can track and fine individuals.
* Optical disc piracy: Null issue Illicit profit is a real crime cover under current law.
* End-user piracy: Fair use trumps infinite CP.
* Cartridge-based video game piracy: See above.
* Open access to foreign markets: Stop regioning practices and sell to the world wide market as a whole.
So basically stop whining and get out of the racket business…
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Pirates,Shearers,Lenders and downloaders are not a market that can be taped by the mainstream.
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I is fuzzy brained mew =^^=
http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com/
Oh lord I has this for the left/right fundies out thar.
“Ultra liberal fascists(who people confuse with normal liberals) wish to restrict public rights on the basis of their interpretation of "what is fair" while pushing for a thought police tribunal so adults don't have to act like adults.
Neo conservatives (IE neo fascists, the fake conservatives on the ultra right) wish to restrict public rights under the guise of "protection", religion and more power for themselfs.
So I give a big "zeig heil" to our modern day fascists.”
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Pirates,Shearers,Lenders and downloaders are not a market that can be taped by the mainstream.
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I is fuzzy brained mew =^^=
http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com/
You know.. here's the thing. I was one of those people curbing my Music Purchasing habits. iTunes was too restrictive and other programs were just laughably retarded. Then Amazon came along. I went from buying 3-6 CDs a year tops to now buying 8-10 a month (many on the daily deal) even stuff I wasn't sure if I'd like or not. It's not a triumph of the RIAA somehow shaking the fear into me but this...
1. Most stuff on Amazon is fairly priced. Explain to me how the $5 collection CDs on Best Buy and Walmart racks are somehow $9.99 as a standard flat flee in iTunes? I won't pay $10 for Get a Grip by Aerosmith in iTunes but damned if I won't snag it in a heartbeat for $3.99 if it ever goes on Daily Deal.
2. I'm not treated like a criminal. My PC doesn't need to be validated and licensed in a central database before I can use the shit I paid for. I'm not told where I can and cannot put these files and likewise I don't have to prctically hack or rerecord the files just to make them open for all my devices. If I want Audiosurf to use the stuff bought of iTunes, I should NOT have to burn then rip the MP3s because they keep their files copy protected from their own customers.
3. It goes wherever I want it to and doesn't bitch. As a guy who transplanted ~200 songs onto my PS3 for Wipeout HD, it's a blessing to see it all work without any comlaints unlike the one I brought from iTunes where the console won't play it because in laymans terms, "they don't even want to fuck with Apple."
Now, look at the above and notice how dramatically different the ESA wants things. ust this week I went from waiting on Prince of Persia until it was cheap to buying the PC version because Ubisoft shipping without DRM was a move I wanted to support.
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Volume sales will hopfully save digital distrobution they will see the merit in low cost high volume sales one day....
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Pirates,Shearers,Lenders and downloaders are not a market that can be taped by the mainstream.
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I is fuzzy brained mew =^^=
http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com/
Almost all of it was about them protectign their wallets, none of it about the constant attacks from polichickens, or all the false data used to make them and their customers look like subhuman monsters... No,m just more moves to make themselves look better and make those who pay them look even more like subhuman animals.