Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player All Fail at Once

December 31, 2008 -

It's not exactly a video game story, but...

Multiple reports are coming in that every 30GB Zune (Microsoft's mp3 player) failed this morning at 2 a.m.

College OTR has this:

Microsoft is just squeezing in under the wire to claim the rights to “weirdest tech story of the year.”Last night at approximately 2 AM, every 30GB Zune model on the planet crashed... The Zunes reset, powered up, then froze on the loading bar screen, and no conventional method of resetting them appears to work.


This is brought to you courtesy of Microsoft, who has been selling a video game console with a nearly 100% fail rate for three years. The Zune situation is all the more disasterous however seeing as all of them failed at the exact same moment, which people have taken to calling 2K9.

From Gizmodo:

Right, so this is a weird one: we're getting tons of reports—tons—about failing Zune 30s. Apparently, the players began freezing at about midnight last night, becoming totally unresponsive and practically useless.

The crisis has been dubbed by Zune users 'Y2K9', due to the apparently synchronized faceplantings across the country... This report is consistently corroborated by literally hundreds of others across the various Zune support and fan forums.

GP: Zune users, jump to comments and tell us what is happening with your player...


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Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

My Zune slept through the mess. Battery had already run down, so when I recharged it yesterday, the clock reset as the Zune folks said it would. No drama. Since its a software/firmware issue and not a hardware issue, it will likely be resolved in the next system update.

--Verbinator

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Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

The answer to RRoD, and this is simple:

Don't pay jack s*** for stuff that isn't made or programmed in first world countries. Examples:

Nintendo wii failure rates (Very low) versus xbox 360 (Very high).

The bulging capacitor problems (which was caused by a japanese employee of a company stealing an incomplete formula for the fluid in the capacitors and selling it all over china, etc) that we still have TODAY in really off brand electronics.

Hard drive failure rates  (last time I looked it was 12-16% high estimate, 8-10% low estimate)

 

Need any more? Don't be surprised when these companies move mostly out of the U.S, and just laugh when everything breaks like this.

Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

This post makes no sense to me.  Neither of those consoles are manufactured solely in their country of design origin.  Yet you say that's going to drive more companies to build things outside of the US, which they already did.

Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

I've owned Creative Labs Zen products for awhile (probably since 05).  I've had issues with them for awhile.  They all tend to freeze after awhile of use.  Thankfully I can hard reset the thing when such a freeze happens.

Singapore is considered a 1st world country.

Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

According to HardOCP, the Zunes are working again now.

Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

My zune is working now.

Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

Mmm bandwagon humping...don't we bitch about the "inteluctual insest"(famliy) friendly groups do that?

 

100% fail rate for the updated modles mabye?....


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Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

well this is good to know. now i can tell my wife why her zune is broken.

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Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

Not like this kind of thing is that unusual in the wired world. Just about every BlackBerry nationwide had its browser configuration deleted over the past two weeks because of a flub on RIM's part. So it's not like Microsoft is the only company.

Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

times like this i am glad i have a sansa as well as my zune. though, irony of ironies, i just got my new gears of war edition zune, and got it set up and filled up, then go to check my old zune, and it was frozen! on the day i got my new one, my old one broke. it's being relegated to a stationary music backup when/if it comes back online in the new year.

 

It is not murder; I am merely advancing the hands of the clock, just a bit.

It is not murder; I am merely advancing the hands of the clock, just a bit.

Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

So the official response right now is

 

Wait Till Tommorow

Let the Battery Die (which will take forever since it's probably using NO power)

Recharge/Reboot the machine

 

Because the machines wont even reboot to allow a new version to be updated. Wow.

Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

Its official, it was a leap year bug in the driver.  The affected Zune's should reset themselves tomorrow.

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Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

That is some skilful incompetence from the zune coders

 

Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

Just makes me glad I never bought one (I don't own a digital music player).

Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

They tried to compute... love.

Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

*Is rocking to his Sandisk E250 and laughing at MS while crying for the Zune owners*

(man thats a hard multi-task)

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Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

*Looks at her lime green Ipod, and smiles.*

Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

Glad I didn't get a Zune ._.

Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

Well i have a first gen 30gb saw this article pulled it out, and yep bricked.

 

Thankfully got an ipod touch for x-mas that i was planning to switch to as my music player anyway so moot point and good timing for me.

Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

 Huh, I didn't realize more than 6 people owned a Zune.  It does make me glad I planned ahead and buried a cache of supplies in the woods, today its the Zunes, tomorrow it could be the MS mice.  

Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

What? Toshiba has it own version of a ipod?

Wow, that's even more of a fail.

 

Update: Found this on Wikipedia

Zune 30 Freezing

At approximately midnight Pacific Standard Time, on December 31st, 2008, first generation Zune 30s were reported to have rebooted and frozen during the boot process.[48][49][50] A response from Microsoft about this possible time bomb is pending. Commentators have speculated that the problem may be related to 2008 being a leap year, making Dec 31st the 366th day of the year.

College on the Record has dubbed the event 2k9, Entertainment Weekly and TechRadar have dubbed it Y2K9, Gizmodo has dubbed it Y2K9 and Z2K9.

As of 11:00 AM (EST) a comment has been posted the the front page of the support site stating that Microsoft is aware of the issue. Phone support representatives have stated that the issues should be addressed within 24 hours.

______________________________________________________________________________

Time Bomb? O.o

Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

No doubt. I looked at the zune formums right? The mods there are fliping out. So many people with zune problems and no way to fix it except those void the warrenty methods.

 

I feel bad for M$

Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

That hard reset trick people have been passing around on there doesn't even work.

I should also point out that there have been reports of this happening with the Toshiba Gigabeat as well, which is what the Zune essentially is.

Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

O.o Are they serious when they say every single one across the planet? Some of this is kinda hard to take in.

Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

As hard as it is to believe, it's true.  While it may not be every single last one, as units with an older firmware seem to have survived, it practically is.

Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

From the reports, it sounds like just the ones with the latest firmware.

-Gray17

-Gray17

Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

since most people tend to update their gear's program as soon as available, we're still talking a large majority of units doing the "i don't wanna work for you anymore!"

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Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

100% failure?  Well then I should check my 360...

...nope?  Still no RRoD?  I've had it for a year (2 by May) and still no real issue.  Sure it's locked up a few times (mostly in Fallout 3) but outside of that...its fine.

Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

 Archos 5 for the win. It may be French, but its still working .

Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

Well Zune owners should voice their concern the same way Xbox owners do.

Go out and buy another Zune.

Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

Haha...if my xbox RROD'd, I would just open the thing myself and fix it. xD No sense in MS sending me another peice of refurb crap that is going to break again....

Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

Really glad I decided to go with my 120GB black one on Dec. 26th as my day old birthday gift to myself lol.  Listening to it now actually. Still really weird that all of them went out like that.  Glad I bought the "whatever happens we replace it" warranty from Best Buy now lol.

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Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

The current speculation is that the software didn't take the leap year into account properly.  The theory right now is that our Zune's may function again tomorrow.

Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

Wow, glad I decided to go with a  sandisk mp3 player instead of a zune.

Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

Same here. But I got mine because I despise Itunes.

Sansa owners unite!

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Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

This is madness. Microsoft always finds a way to look like complete idiots. How the heck is it possible that every 30GB just upped and died today? I was just about to pry mine open and hard reset it before I checked the web. And then the bozos that Microsoft are have absolutely nothing posted up on the zune website. Just goes to show how much they care about the consumers that bought their product. This just simpley sucks. I am beyond pissed off.

Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

There's some speculation going on right now in the Zune support forums about whether the new clock feature that was added in the 3.1 update may be at the root of the problem.

Look's like that speculation is moot as there was finally a report of someone with the clock disabled and still being frozen.

Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

Gotta love the hyperbole 100% failure rate comment. Last I read, the highest proffesionals were claiming was 33%.

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Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

"Gotta love the hyperbole 100% failure rate comment. Last I read, the highest proffesionals were claiming was 33%."

Yeah.  If mine has failed, someone must have forgotten to tell me, or maybe elves fixed it while I was asleep.

Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

33% for the XENON model, to be correct.

Latter models all have drastically lower/nonexistant numbers.

Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

Not to be a douche here, but there is something like a 20% failure rate still. While it is better, that is not a number to be proud of by any means.

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Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

From my best guess new 360s have a fail rate of 10-15% while the refurebs added to it add another 10% to the total, its a mess any way you look at it with 2-3X the normal fail rate of any tech gadet.


Shearing/Downloading will never be a mainstream market.


Gore,Violence,Sexauilty,Fear,Emotion these are but modes
of transportation of story and thought, to take them from
society and you create a society of children and nannys


Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Let's renegotiate them.

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Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

Things Hollywood taught me: 33% is nearly 100%. =)

Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

Ya i was thinking the same thing, i mean my 360 has been chugging along just fine for i dunno how long now, two years? something like that. It has frozen up mid-game 2 or three times but never RRoD, then again my PS3 has frozen up mid-game a few times, even my Wii has frozen up mid-game once or twice so it's hardly unique to the 360.

On another note, my PS3's blu-ray drive failed and had to be repaired under warranty. It was out for almost 3 weeks. At least it got repaired free of charge, even shipping, but still my ps3 failed before my 360 and i bought my 360 before my ps3.

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Not to mention no ps3 fankid will ever admit to having had the Yellow Light of Doom already. :)

Meanwhile I can sit down and play on my xenon-model 360 and STILL play it like RRoD was just an imaginary spinup.

Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

to be fair, i own a 360,ps3 and a wii.. and the 360 is the only one that has broken.

I have 10 friend with 360s too and 7 of them  have experienced the RROD, one of them 3 times!

And that includes friends with the later models (elites etc)

Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

Gonna say this with pride here my friends, I've been playing my 360 since the initial launch. Got mine as a present for ma birthday, and it still runs like a dream.  I've had one friend have their 360 go bad, and it wasnt even a RROD, his graphics card decided that since McCain lost, it was going to commit suicide (No kidding here, the card died just after Obama won the election).

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Re: Red Ring of Zune? 30GB Versions of Microsoft mp3 Player

I'm one of the many who woke up to find their Zune frozen.  I had it sitting in its dock and apparently it tried to reboot itself at some point overnight and it froze there.  Needless to say, I'm a bit on the pissed side since I just had mine repaired back in October.

 
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