PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

January 6, 2009 -

Animal rights organization PETA has named Xbox 360 role-playing adventure Fable 2 its Most Animal-Friendly Video Game of 2008.

In announcing its 6th annual Proggy Awards, PETA recognized "companies, people, and products for innovative and animal-friendly achievements." Of Fable 2, the activist group gushed:

Fable 2 is a vegetarian's dream come true. Why? In this virtual fight between good and evil, characters powered by tofu are just as powerful as their meat-eating counterparts—and are more fit and attractive to boot.

 

Featuring a strong pro-vegetarian theme, eating a plant-based diet helps you rack up "purity" points, whereas eating meat makes your character fat and evil. A fun and innovative game, it's also an effective tool that teaches gamers the real-life benefits of a vegetarian diet.

UPDATE: Edge points out that players can kick chickens and shoot bunnies in the game, which is just the kind of behavior that one might think would anger a group like PETA.

Dan Shannon, a representative for the animal rights group, told Edge:

I'll be honest, it's not our favorite part of the game. But what we like about Fable II and why we gave it the award is because the game presents you with choices, and then you see the repercussions of what those choices are. This is what the awards are based on, and that’s what PETA’s philosophy is—for people to understand how their choices affect the real world.

It’s not like people eat meat to score evil points, but you are supporting an industry that is cruel to animals. People need to be aware that their choices affect the world. We like that message in Fable II.

[The Chicken-Kicking] is done in a light-hearted manner. I don’t think anyone’s going to go out and start kicking chickens in their yard because of this game. Just like real life, you can go kick chickens if you want to, but we don’t think most people get off on that.

GP: Could just be that PETA, which has clearly recognized that talking about games is a good way to create buzz, didn't do its homework on Fable 2?


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Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

My only comment to PETA would be this, "Well PETA, it's glad you like video games, but it's not like we really gave a shit about your opinion in the first place."

Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

Its ironic, they miss the achivment you get for kicking the chicken and killing the rabbit, heh.

Edit - Never mind, they didn't miss the chicken kicking part, but I guess they missed the rabbit killing part since the PETA spokesperson didn't bring that up.

Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

I hate to use this example but it pretty much sums up evil...it's so damn cliche though.

Hitler was a vegetarian.

Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

Go go Godwin!

 

Hitler was also a painter, should we shun Da Vinci now? For the record, Churchill was also a painter.

Hitler was a non-smoker who pushed hard to get the Germans to stop smoking, should everyone smoke just so that they are as dissimilar to Hitler as possible?

Ghandi was a vegetarian.

I don't really side with PETA, but the "Hitler was a vegetarian, so vegetarians are evil" argument is pretty damned ignorant.

Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

As I say-

It'll be a sad day when there's a group of people who only eat minerals, citing that vegetarians are "mean to plants".

It'll be a sadder day when they're accused of cruelty to rocks.

Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

They held a contest to give away a Will with Twilight Princess at launch because "Link rescues caged monkies" in the game, which makes it animal friendly. Of course you ride a horse, go fishing, and throw chickens into the water (at least I do...). PETA just wants to get gamers attention, they aren't used to people actually paying attention to what they have to say and are trying to drum up as many "game" connections as possible.

Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

I thought this was a pretty rational response from PETA actually, I'm surprised so many people are still going off on them. Then again I wonder how many people actually read and thought about it instead of going into an instabash mdoe on PETA. Oh yeah before anyone says it I'm not a PETA member, and I eat quite a bit of meat.

They actually realize that the choices in the game are choices and applauded the game for it. They also didn't go off an unrealistic violence (ie. chicken kicking) and said people wouldn't do that in real life jsut because its in a game. I swear I thought people would be happy to hear a group actually talk seriously about games instead of jsut bashing them but isntead people just went into bashing mode right away... it's actually pretty sad.

Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

Sounds like a typical PETA defender, never minding that they support the likes of ALF and such who are terrorist, and then theres the whole pets are slaves and such, and the whole "holocost on your plate"

Yeah, I could go on and on about PETA.

Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

We all could Ashkihyena. But lets not right now.

 

And Vash, as for PETA. Considering their record in recent years, both in word and deed, I think having my Insta-Hammer (I like that term, thanks Vash) set for them is perfectly acceptible.

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Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

I call bullshit on their tlak of choices, since they try to take those very choices away.

Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

Poor Fable 2... do they want to kill it's sales?

Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

So in all honesty then, what is PETA's stance on human cannibalism...?

Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

It doesn't involve animals (As they see it anyway, but let's not get into that whole 'humans are animals' argument) so it's probably ok.

Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

Damn, now I don't like this game anymore. Except for kicking chickens, shooting bunnies, killing balverines, eating crunchy chicks, shooting birds, eating meat, killing the produce vendors, and of course laying waste to those eco-friendly Oakfieldians. 

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Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

If people weren't meant to eat animals, animals wouldn't be so delicious.

 

"That's not ironic. That's justice."

"That's not ironic. That's justice."

Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

Hahahah, PETA are so godamn transparent it actually makes me feel embarrased for them.

Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

Eating meat doen't make you fat or evil, it makes you a carnivore/omnivore. Eating other creatures is a part or nature and humans are no different. And they can call it slavery/prison all they want but I'm willing to bet that most of those "slaves" get better treatment then a lot of people.

I love animals too, I just love to eat them more ^^

Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

Within the context of the game, eating meat, apart from the crunchy chicks which do actually give you evil points since it's alive when you eat it, gives you corruption points. Corruption points are generally awarded for performing acts of indulgence or greed, such as gambling, booze drinking or increasing the prices of your owned real estate and stores. Nothing inattely evil about those, though of course some would disagree based on their own moral standards.

As for their "pets = slaves" equation, if our cats were sentient, they'd probably be pretty damned happy. They get all the food they can eat, all the belly rubs they want and a little cat nip now and then to trip balls (one of them starts rubbing the floor with his head).

Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

What? Insects aren't animals? I killed a boatload of them for my quests and they don't raise an eyebrow over it? Hypocrites.

Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

Yes, it's the insect killing that makes them hypocrites... It's not the fact that they kill animals they rescue, or oppose animal developed medicine while using animal developed medicine to live that makes them hypocrites, no, it's the killing insects.

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Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

 Its hard to relate to a species that is so fundamentally alien. Ever seen insects mate? Doesn't go well to porno music at all, thank you. There is something wrong with that.

Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

Now I'm flashing back to The Drummer pulling up alien insectoid porn to annoy his co-workers in Planetary.

Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

Bwahahaha! I should probably be grossed out. But I can't quite stop laughing at that image... The mating habits of the praying mantis, with Barry White playing in the background. (Yeah, I know. Not 'porno music' per say.)

 

Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

Once again, PETA proves their ideological and biological ignorance.

"You know what I wish? I wish all the scum of the Earth had one throat and I had my hands about it."

"You know what I wish? I wish all the scum of the Earth had one throat and I had my hands about it."

Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

Well, PETA must house plenty of dogs and kittens (even of the aquatic kind), since they have an industrial-sized freezer in their HQ. Penn & Teller did a special on them in their show, Penn & Teller's Bullshit!, and listed off the two reasons for having a walk-in freezer: meat storage and corpse storage.

Ironically (and assuming I remember correctly), PETA uthinizes hundreds upon hundreds of animals a year, purly on the basis of the animals being domesticated.

Remember: PETA wants to give animals RIGHTS. Spain gave monkies some rights, but PETA wants animals to be treated as equals...

So, if PETA were to take over America...:
Animals would be "set free" from their "prisons," and be classified as citizens.
The animals, being full citizens, would be an immediate burdon on society.
Animals would need to find jobs, in order to pay for basic services (in which case a cow might sell its milk, or a horse might find a manual labor job, such as pulling a plow). Such services would require these animals to be paid.
Nothing is free, and people generally don't reward their workers entirely in food. Animals would be paid money.
Animals would, over time, cause inflation, since they have no means, or use, for money, nor can they actually spend money on their own free will.
Animals without jobs would be given welfare checks, further burdoning society, as well as draining money out of the government's pockets.

Now, if we look at a more realistic scenario, all animals released and given citizenship status would have to be arrested on charges of "Public Nudity" or "Indecent Exposure." If animal citizens walking around naked isn't enough, then having sexual intercourse in public, as well as urinating/deficating in public, would certainly be enough, as there are also sanitary standards that need to be upheld. So, after all the work of letting these animals become citizens, we need to put them in a prison of some sort... Such as, for example, the farm that the cow came from.

I could get more complex (animals on trial, animals and the death sentance, animal soldiers), but I won't. It's be pointless. I just wanted to prove that PETA is run by idiots, and also tends to be supported by people who are animal lovers in terms of loving to have pets (yeah, some people don't do their research).

Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

You're thinking way too deeply into this, although the scenario is amusing.

Domesticated animals can't survive in the wild. Most of them have come to rely heavily on humans to provide food, shelter, and protection from predators. The majority of domesticated animals would get eaten, starve, or be hit by cars within a week of being "freed."

PETA also fails to realize how good domestice animals have it. Farm animals get constant food, shelter from the elements, and protection from predators in return for providing some sort of product. If/when they get slaughtered, it's in a much quicker manner than they'd die if they were caught and eaten by predators. Pets have it even better. They get food, shelter, and protection for next to nothing. All they have to do is act like they like you (if it's an animal that shows affection), and they get a nice place to sleep, consistent food, and medical care.

Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

Actually, the biggest thing PETA would accomplish if their agenda was fully enacted: The near extinction of most domesticated animals.

Think about it.  Can't use farms for cows and chickens...so those farms get shut-down and converted to other uses.  Cows and chickens can't pay rent....so they get kicked off the land.  Where are they going to go?  No land to occupy, no food for them to eat, they'll all die off.  As the only reason they had lives to begin with, was because human beings found a use for them.

So millions and millions of animals would never know life at all, simply because PETA objects to the quality of life they would have received.

 

Bravo PETA...bravo!

 

"You know what I wish? I wish all the scum of the Earth had one throat and I had my hands about it."

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Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

PETA often makes comments, from the leadership, mind you, about how we need to kill the domestic cat because its a weak bastardization.

Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

"weak bastardization"? Unless i'm mistaken, didn't they show that most "domestic" (not quite the right expression since the Egyptian Wildcat [which is still, last I heard anyway, a healthy species] which is the "root" of the housecat, started the relationship with humanity because THATS WHERE THEIR PREY (rats) WAS!) cats were geneticly much closer to their progenitor species then most "Domesticated" animals? Although Dogs aren't really far behind in that scale.

Excuse me, I feel the need to hunt the Loudmouth Idiot, a species that seems to be breeding at a geometric rate.   

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Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

Well it doesn't completely show the "benefits" of a vegetarian diet.  If it did your character wouldn't be as effective in the more magic part of the game.  You know brain shrinkage and all. 

Furthermore PETA always rails on how their members are so much healthier than we omnivores.  And yet so many vegans look like they just got out of a year long stint in a concentration camp.

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Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

Wow, glad fable isn't on the ps3 :P

Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

As an xbox 360 fanboy, let me be the first to say, CURSE YOU, YOU LUCKY BASTARDS!!! CURSE YOU FOR BEING SPARED THE IDIOCY THAT IS FABLE II AND PETA!!!

Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

 I suppose PETA is praising the 360 by relation when they praise Fable. Congrats.

Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

what?

 

are they stupid?

you do realise that you can eat 'crunchy chicks' in that game. All yellow n feathery n crunchy.

In fact one of the initiation ceremony things for the evil temple guys is to stand there and crunch baby chicks. um did they miss that bit? 

Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

 What, like dungeon keeper?

Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

I loved that game...

Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

"A fun and innovative game, it's also an effective tool that teaches gamers the real-life benefits of a vegetarian diet."

Show me a vegetarian with a halo and a shimmering glow about them and maybe I'll see your point.

Also, as I recall eating meat in Fable I (haven't played the sequel yet) might make you fat but also makes you strong. Ridiculously strong if you ate it in the middle of combat with a nice high multiplier.

Just sayin'. I'm actually trying to sharply reduce the amount of meat I consume so I'm more sympathetic than most to what they might be saying, but this kind of statement from PETA is more silly than anything.

Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

 Eating a pure vegetarian diet is as bad as eating a pure meat-based diet (do we even have a word for someone eating nothing but meat? If someones says awesome, you're getting a smack.).

 Humans are omnivores for a reason; variety gives us all the nutriets required to be healthy.

Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

do we even have a word for someone eating nothing but meat

Carnivore

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Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

 Carnivore or Vegetarian? I think not, try again. Vegetarian is exclusively humanistic in its use, you would never say a cow is a vegetarian; you'd say it is a herbivore. And unless we are applying morality to animals now, lets steer clear of the absolutes.

Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

To my knowledge, there isn't a special term for humans that eat solely meat. Of course, I doubt you'd find many people who eat only meat and do so for a moral/ethical reason. I'm sure you can find a few people who eat only meat, but they likely aren't numerous enough or pretentious enough to think they need a special term to set themselves apart.

Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

I've seen meat lovers proclaiming themselves carnivores with pride so why not? Vegetarian vs. carnivore sounds good. The vegetarian all ready denotes a human.

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Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

You mean.... herbivores and carnivores?

Anyways, that games has a TON of beetle-killing as well. The last time I checked, beetles are animals too. If anything, the most animal-friendly game is GTA. At least in that came you don't kill any animals. 

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Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

"Anyways, that games has a TON of beetle-killing as well. The last time I checked, beetles are animals too. If anything, the most animal-friendly game is GTA. At least in that came you don't kill any animals.  "

 Freudian slip?

Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

Oh wow. It must have been.

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Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

 Those are vegans... PETA only cares about (non-human) animals.

Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

LOL

It's kinda funny in a way, if they want to award Fable 2 for promoting vegetanarianism, that is their choice.

Doesn't mean I'm going to stop eating meat, mind you. After all, it's my choice too. ;)

Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

Yet if the game rewarded you in anyway for eating a balanced diet, meaning eating meat as well, they'd be calling for a ban and to have Lionhead studios shut down and be out for Sir Molyneux's head.

 

All this did was give douchebag vegans a superiority complex, as demonstrated here.

Re: PETA Names Fable 2 Most Animal-Friendly Game of 2008

Peta's crazy but I've never seen them call for bans on things that disagree with them. I haven't seen any of them seriously propose a ban on meat either.

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