Jack Thompson Working on New Game Legislation in Utah?

January 10, 2009 -

GamePolitics received a press release from disbarred Miami attorney Jack Thompson this morning in which he claimed to be "working with" state officials in Utah to pass video game legislation.

Regarding the supposed legislation, Thompson writes:

Thompson will be in Utah this coming week to work with Utah state officials to pass a new state law that will stop, dead in its tracks, the continuing marketing and sale of “Mature” video games to kids. Utah’s new approach to this problem will be constitutional and it will become a model for other states to follow.

A bit of digging shows that Thompson is scheduled to be in Utah next Saturday, where he will be the keynote speaker at the annual convention of the ultra-conservative Utah Eagle Forum. Indeed, the group appears to be a significant part of Thompson's ongoing connection to Utah. A convention agenda mentions that Thompson:

...will be talking about the research proving exposure to graphic violence leads to violent children and this year's legislation to prevent it.

We also note that, despite his disbarment, Thompson remains listed as an attorney in the program.

Via e-mail, we asked Thompson if he was talking to any specific legislators about a game bill and whether he could elaborate on what he meant by "working with." So far, we have received no response.

Still, given the local clout wielded in Utah by the UEF and its president, Gayle Ruzicka, we wouldn't doubt that some type of Thompson-authored legislation will surface there. Indeed, four state legislators are also scheduled to serve as speakers at the UEF convention.

To be sure, Thompson has quite a history with Utah:

In 2006, then-State Rep. David Hogue (R) tried - and failed - to pass a bill equating violent video games with pornography. Language used by Hogue during legislative hearings mimicked Thompson's frequent comments on game violence. Gayle Ruzicka spoke out in favor of the bill.

In 2007, Rep. Scott Wyatt's Thompson-authored bill failed as well, but not before Thompson called for the impeachment of Utah's popular Republican Attorney General Mark Shurtleff. Shurtleff's offense? He had the temerity to offer a legal opinion that Thompson's bill was unconstitutional.

In 2008, only weeks after a referee recommended to the Florida Supreme Court that Thompson be disbarred for life, the controversial anti-game violence campaigner was honored with a Freedom Award at the annual America's Freedom Festival in Provo. Given the circumstances, we found his selection a curious choice.


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Re: Jack Thompson Working on New Game Legislation in Utah?

You have something of a point there. The Midwest would have to switch over to a realistic and sustainable agricultural model instead of the ridiculous corn model they use now. But if the farmers wised up and started planting a variety of crops meant to grow in their climates instead of trying to forcibly grow corn, soybeans, or wheat by irrigating and throwing tons of fertilizer on, they wouldn't have much trouble. Also, right now it's a race to see if the aquafers run or before the salt build-up on irrigated lands makes them unfarmable. Still, Iowa should be sitting pretty. Most of the state gets more than enough rain to grow corn without irrigation.

Re: Jack Thompson Working on New Game Legislation in Utah?

it'd be the Civil War all over again

岩「…Where do masochists go when they die?」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

Re: Jack Thompson Working on New Game Legislation in Utah?

Texas?  Yeesh, imagine what FLORIDA would do.

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Re: Jack Thompson Working on New Game Legislation in Utah?

We also note that, despite his disbarment, Thompson remains listed as an attorney in the program.

Who should we contact about this?

岩「…Where do masochists go when they die?」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

Re: Jack Thompson Working on New Game Legislation in Utah?

well, I'm certain that Thompson didn't write that himself, the grammar is too fractured.

Re: Jack Thompson Working on New Game Legislation in Utah?

so He's not drafting a video game Law

America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.

Re: Jack Thompson Working on New Game Legislation in Utah?

No, I believe he *IS* drafting a new video game law. I meant that I do not believe he wrote the entry in the Eagle Forum convention program that lists him as an attorney.

Re: Jack Thompson Working on New Game Legislation in Utah?

I have the Utah AG's Email address(I know I'm going to get in trouble with you and the state of Utah) notifying the AG That he "IS" Trying the same thing again(Not to mention telling him of JT escapades( That nearly put JT in Jail)) (Not personilizing it, Just letting the utah AG know what JT did(Your articles on JT will stop him from putting a video game law in Utah's hands))

America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.

Re: Jack Thompson Working on New Game Legislation in Utah?

You're certainly free to write to anyone you like. JT is also free to try to get this done and the AG has no power to intervene, other than to offer his opinion, if requested by the legislature.

What will happen is that Gayle Ruzicka (who is strangely powerful in ultra-conservative Utah) will prevail upon one of the legislators to introduce the bill. There will be some discussion in the legislature. However, the likelihood of passage is slim. And, if it does pass, it will be shot down in federal court at great expense to the taxpayers.

The voters and taxpayers of Utah are the ones who can intervene successfully, by speaking their opinions to their lawmakers.

Re: Jack Thompson Working on New Game Legislation in Utah?

That's why I dislike video Game laws(Video games are 1st Amendent protected), IMO they're wasteful pork for all Political Parties, They make a state's budget Worser than it is now

Here's the aborted email

I know that the loon from Miami has decided to go back and draft a new Video Game law but,  did you know the Offenses he made in the state of Florida
 
This is taken from Game Politics (Gamepolitics.com)
 
JT was Disbarred (Forever) for his very Unetheical Behaviours
 
 
JT Included Smut in filings and Encoruaged the Judge to put him in Jail (He Did it again after not showing cause)
 
 
 
JT Continued to make Threats against a state Bar (To the point of the US Marshalls being called (note: It happened while I was in Florida for Vacation))
 
 
I don't want to get in Trouble with the State of Utah over Jack's bad behavior (please keep my Email between you and me)
 
Regards, a concerned Person

America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.

Re: Jack Thompson Working on New Game Legislation in Utah?

Maybe he isn't responsibile for describing himself as an attorney on the program. But he is, or reasonably should be, aware that he has been so described. Triggering, I would think, an obligation to have that erroneous description corrected as soon as possible. If not, then I believe he's just as complict in the false description as the one more directly responsible for its publication. And solely on the hook for better than baseless allegations that he is practicing law without a license by holding himself out as an attorney.

And I wouldn't be at all surprised if he told someone they could properly describe him as an attorney because he's still admitted to practice in the Southern District of Florida . . . which itself is best described as a "hyper-technicality."

Re: Jack Thompson Working on New Game Legislation in Utah?

I would say, leve it be.

If  anyone contact them, even to ask for a quote, it will be played up as liberal games working in secret to destroy him and will play very nicly to the Eagle Forum.

Re: Jack Thompson Working on New Game Legislation in Utah?

Round, like a circle in a spiral
Like a wheel within a wheel.
Never ending or beginning,
On an ever spinning wheel
Like a snowball down a mountain
Or a carnaval balloon
Like a carousell that's turning
Running rings around the moon

Like a clock whose hands are sweeping
Past the minutes on it's face
And the world is like an apple
Whirling silently in space
Like the circles that you find
In the windmills of your mind

Like a tunnel that you follow
To a tunnel of it's own
Down a hollow to a cavern
Where the sun has never shone
Like a door that keeps revolving
In a half forgotten dream
Or the ripples from a pebble
Someone tosses in a stream.......

Re: Jack Thompson Working on New Game Legislation in Utah?

You know, I loved the way that was sung in The Thomas Crown Affair (the awesome original with Steve McQueen, not the remake with poseur Pierce Brosnan...)

Re: Jack Thompson Working on New Game Legislation in Utah?

To me, he made the better Bond, behind Connery. Moore behind him. But the new guy? James Blond? I dunno. I just hope the recent Bond was better than thr last one. I haven't seen it yet.

But watching The Thomas Crown Affair with Steve McQueen sounds interesting.

 - Warren Lewis

 

Consumer responsibility is just as important as Corporate responsibility. So, be responsible consumers.

Re: Jack Thompson Working on New Game Legislation in Utah?

The new Bond movies are crap.  They're even more about product placement than the last Brosnan one.  Oh No, we have to save Bolivia from high water prices!  That's absolutely something that MI6 needs to be involved in, despite the fact that the UK and Bolivia aren't very friendly.

I felt like Quantum of Solace was half of what could have been a mediocre movie.  This new Bond has none of the class of the older Bonds; for God's sake, he stood on a dock fifty yards away from the villain and watched him talk!  WHAT THE HELL KIND OF SPY WORK IS THAT?

New Bond sucks, if you disagree you're a moron or you've never seen old Bond.

Re: Jack Thompson Working on New Game Legislation in Utah?

I utterly disagree with you and stating that anyone who does so is a moron weakens your argument.  Casino Royale was far more believable than any previous Bond film and the interplay between characters was far more convincing and enigmatic than anything else I've seen.  Frankly I thought previous Bond films were stale where as Daniel Craigs is breathing new life into it.

Quantum of Solace on it's own doesn't stand out as a masterpiece, but taken alongside Casino Royale is neatly tells the story of Bond's fall and rise.  It is worth noting that Quantum of Solace is just a short story written by Ian Fleming, barely even a conversation infact, between Bond and another character who I forget the name about discussing the death of a loved one and how to get over it.  I felt that such a story needed to be told after the conclusion of Casino Royale and whilst Quantum of Solace isn't going to become a classic, it sets up the new Bond beautifully.

P.S.  I think I have seen all the old bond films now from Dr. No all the way through.  It is horses for courses and I like this new direction.

Re: Jack Thompson Working on New Game Legislation in Utah?

Except that you missed the entire part tying the scheme into the Quantum organization and Bond's murdered girlfriend. Seriously, the plot of Quantum of Solace was a huge step up from many of the more recent Bond movies. Bond had personal reasons for doing something, and the plot wasn't some sort of ridiculous rule/destroy the world scheme involving killer laser satellites or other outlandishly impossible technology. Add in the fact that Bond has personality and character development, and you've got a new take on the series that's far superior to where it had been going with Brosnan.

Re: Jack Thompson Working on New Game Legislation in Utah?

1) There was no character development.  A friend of mine, a writer with a doctorate from Duke, a man who knows more about English, writing, and 'characeter development' than all of us put together, could find none.  There wasn't character development; there was a shallow love interest death like has been seen before in other Bond movies.  Only difference is that this one was stretched over 2 two-hour long sequences designed to waste time.

2) 'killer laser satellites' aren't as outlandish as you think.  Neither were the old 'nuke country A' plotlines. 

3) As I've said before, the 'plot' of quantum of solace is absolute garbage.  MI6 doesn't care if Bolivia finds itself having to pay triple the price for water.  No one cares.  Maybe their neighbor Chavez might care, but that's only because the current head of Bolivia loves him oh so much.  James Bond would never even be there. 

4) Step up my ass.  Poor 'spy' work, shoddy special ops work, more 'vengeance' and less espionage and clear thinking.  This is the Bond that the dense masses want; more violence, less class.  There's a reason the old Bond had a Walther PPK, not a P99 or an Uzi or an MP5.  Bond wasn't about throwing jackass bodyguards off of a roof.

Re: Jack Thompson Working on New Game Legislation in Utah?

"New Bond sucks, if you disagree you're a moron or you've never seen old Bond."

Funny how I'm not a moron, I've seen old Bond, and still disagree. IMO, Sean Connery takes second place behind Daniel Craig.

BTW, with the watching the villain thing, that one of the tenets of the Assassin's Creed (from the PS3 game), "hide in plain sight," or in this case, "spy in plain sight."

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Re: Jack Thompson Working on New Game Legislation in Utah?

Then you must be an idiot sir.  Daniel Craig is absolutely terrible!  He has no class to him, not like the old Bond.  And there's a difference between Bond blending into a casino and gambling  with his target versus Bond sitting on a dock and looking at the man having a conversation.  One has class.  One is Bond at his suavest.  The other is Bond acting like he's some sort of low class thug spying on another thug.

As for the 'hide in plain sight' tenet, it means blend into the crowd, not stand within view while you're supposed to be spying.

 

Re: Jack Thompson Working on New Game Legislation in Utah?

The only universal truth about Bond movies is that Roger Moore and Pierce Brosnan are the worst Bonds. Any Bond fan worth his or her salt knows that Connery and Lazenby were the best.

But I beg to differ on Craig. Haven't gotten a chance to see Quantum yet but his turn as Bond in the Casino Royale remake was pretty stellar. Especially compared to the original, which not even Peter Lorre could save.

Re: Jack Thompson Working on New Game Legislation in Utah?

Go see him.  That's all I have to say.  If you don't find his acting, and the whole plot, to be idiotic, I will pay for your MRI or CAT scan or something.

Re: Jack Thompson Working on New Game Legislation in Utah?

Yes, you should have a CAT scan if you prefer a realistic evil plot and protagonist with personality and personal issues to a ridiculous plot about laser satellites being thwarted by a guy whose only personality trait is that he's a terrible womanizer.

Re: Jack Thompson Working on New Game Legislation in Utah?

Are you serious?  The new Bond has all the personality of a cracker.  And how is 'stealing water from Bolivia' realistic?  Are you serious?  1) Bolivia wouldn't let it happen, nor would Chavez.  2) It doesn't affect England at all, ergo no need for MI6 to get involved.  3) I seem to recall Bond was a smooth-talking womanizer, which is more than the new one can say.  4) The new movie ripped off Goldfinger's famous 'woman covered in Gold' scene in the worst way.  Way to suck in an original manner.

Re: Jack Thompson Working on New Game Legislation in Utah?

I thought the homage to Goldfinger was well done.  Sure it didn't have the class of say the Untouchables with the pram bouncing down the stairs scene, but hey, still good.

Re: Jack Thompson Working on New Game Legislation in Utah?

Ahhhhh the Battleship Potemkin (sp?) tribute :)  Nice!

Re: Jack Thompson Working on New Game Legislation in Utah?

The new Bond movies made the series what it should be after such jokes as Die Another Day (come on, Pierce Brosnan and Halle Berry melt an ice fortress? The entire movie was an excuse to show Halle Berry in a bikini). They've taken a more realistic turn (no missiles behind the headlights or laser watches) and have actually developed Bond as a character. Bond gets through realistic problems (no more laser satellites) with skill instead of a fortunate Q gadget, and he's not just a shallow womanizer. The new Bond movies with Daniel Craig are a huge step up from what the Bond series had become.

Now that the James Bond rant is over, continue with the discussion.

Re: Jack Thompson Working on New Game Legislation in Utah?

Just like Swordfish was all about showing Halle Berry naked....

MMMM.....Halle Berry naked......*drool*

Sortableturnip's Law: As an online discussion of video game violence grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Jack Thompson approaches 1

Re: Jack Thompson Working on New Game Legislation in Utah?

Flemming hated how bond had come to be portrayed. Bond was a trigger happy DRUNK in the books.

Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

Re: Jack Thompson Working on New Game Legislation in Utah?

I heard that Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace turned out just as Ian Fleming would have wanted them to. Plus, regarding Daniel Craig, my older brother, middle child of three (I'm youngest), thinks he's ugly. So far, only my grandmother (mother's side) agrees with him.

I agree that Pierce Brosnan was an excellent Bond. I've seen GoldenEye (also played the N64 game) and Die Another Day.

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"Game on, brothers and sisters." -Leet Gamer Jargon

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"A Chrono Trigger is anything that unleashes its will or desire to change history!" -Gaspar

Re: Jack Thompson Working on New Game Legislation in Utah?

He said the previous law he helped pen was constitutionally bullet-proof as well.  You know the one that was shot down as being unconstitutional.  So I'm not worried.  Jack just can't seem to grok nonlegally binding rating systems.  The MPAA has set the precedent for such a rating system, so I fail to see why he thinks that the video game industry needs one.  Especially when you take into account that the last FTC study has shown that minors are many times more likely to be able to buy an R rated movie than buy an M rated game.

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