Renegade DS Developer Ends Lock-Down Protest Against Nintendo

January 10, 2009 -

Cabin fever has taken its toll on Bob's Game, apparently.

Robert Pelloni, the indie DS developer who promised to barricade himself in a locked room for 100 days unless Nintendo agreed to sell him its official DS software development kit, has ended his protest after just 30 days.

A post on his Bob's Game site indicates that his self-imposed isolation became too much to bear. He has ended his vigil with a lengthy anti-Nintendo screed. A photo from his webcam (left) seems to indicate that his workspace has been trashed:

It was foolish of me to think Nintendo would hear my pleas. They're just another heartless corporation... The core gamers don't matter anymore. It's not about the games or the fans, it's about spreading out and getting casual gamers to buy Wii Fit.


The golden days of video games are long gone...

I've had enough. I'm ending the protest. I give up on getting the SDK. I really tried my best. Show's over. It's just not going to work. Sorry, everyone. I just can't stay in here. My head won't stop pounding. I feel like I'm losing my mind. It's like I'm splitting in half. I keep seeing these posts that I apparently wrote, but I can't remember writing them. I'm afraid I'm becoming someone else entirely.

Nobody even takes me seriously anymore- how is Nintendo supposed to? Everyone thinks it's some kind of viral ad. It's obviously not. I'm one guy that can't get a break. Don't you think that maybe I might get a little angry being locked in here for a month with no response? ...I know I lost. I've been completely disgraced and humiliated...
My head hurts, so I'm ending this post. Sorry, everybody. Whatever. Why does this HURT so much?!

GP: Pelloni's comments are somewhat disturbing. We wish him well.


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Re: Renegade DS Developer Ends Lock-Down Protest Against

Maybe if this kid was less of a failure, people would pay more attention to him. I guess we'll never know. Atleast he can move in with Austin Lewis for company, if it ever comes down to it.

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So how was staying in one room for 30 days straight different from his normal life?  

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I knew I shouldn't have let him borrow my Lovecraft collection.

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This is just funny.  He couldn't go 100 days, and so he lets loose a bit of a rant.  What a candy-ass.

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This is currently an industry where it is far more important to be able to finish a game than for the game to be any good.

It is far easier to stand on the side lines and say this game sucks or that game sucks and I have a great idea for a game than to actually create... say... Superman 64 (IMO the worst game of all time).

I'm sure that the developers of Superman 64 have a better chance of getting the SDK than Bob does.  Mainly because they've shipped something. 

If it's true that he has publishers willing to pick up his project then it shouldn't be a problem.  Publishers usually meet the requirements of being a Nintendo licensee so I'd think that he's actually stretching the truth.

This is the equivalent of a child holding his breath until his mom give him a cookie.

I have no respect for this guy at all... Also, he could only stand 30 days in isolation?  He's definitely never gonna make it as game developer.

*edit: Actually looking at the game now.  I respect that he was able to get it done.  I don't see how he couldn't get into a company and put some time in with the industry.  I wrote a couple games a while back and that's how I got in.  As with any career, you can't just jump right to the top. 

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I agree with primisis of what he says, gaming has move far far away from enthusiasts to casual zombified consumers.


Gaming has taken root and doing well in the disposable mass market, theya re already as aggorgant and silly as hollywood only with 5 times the cost and less of a market share. At current growth/cost rates the game industry will break itself in a few years.



Oh and take a note from zippy...if you are going to be crazy....do it normally like zippy dose. ^^





Gore,Violence,Sexauilty,Fear,Emotion these are but modes
of transportation of story and thought, to take them from
society and you create a society of children and nannys.


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Re: Renegade DS Developer Ends Lock-Down Protest Against

I agree - we're looking at another crash, and I can see the Wii being the primary cause of it.

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but the likely outcome is Nintendo crashes and their bubble bursts. The old Video game crash was also by the fact that the Atari 2600 basically had a monopoly in the console share of software sales. Because it toppled, basically the whole gaming industry toppled, because it was the only one. But now you are looking at a much more diversified landscape where the wii, 360, and in some ways the PS3 are at equal footing to one another. If the wii fails, it will most likely be the 360 that picks up the torch since it has a reliable software user base. I think a lot of people are underestimating the enthusiest gamer for not being a reliable source and the casual audience is more of a reliable source. Casuals are strange because trends change every now and so, and you can never predict what they really want. The PSX sold because it was a good CD player, the PS2 sold because it was a good DVD player, by logic of the PS3 being a good Blu-ray player it should have sold a ton. But it didin't. The enthusiest always know what they want, quality games and thats it.

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Is that thing at the top supposed to be his health bar?

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I feel kind of guilty laughing at that.  Only kind of, though.

 

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Re: Renegade DS Developer Ends Lock-Down Protest Against

It's not a question of buying something.  Someone pointed out to me that he doesn't even fit the qualifications to receive the software and information that he desires.  According to Nintendo's Development Support Group at warioworld.com:

An Authorized Developer will have demonstrated the ability to develop and program excellent software for Nintendo video game systems or for other game platforms . In addition, an Authorized Developer will have a stable business organization with secure office facilities separate from a personal residence ( Home offices do not meet this requirement ), sufficient resources to insure the security of Nintendo confidential information and in order to ensure an effective environment for working with Nintendo and/or its Publishers. Nintendo provides Authorized Developers with highly confidential information and many of Nintendo's Publishers also rely on recommendations and referrals to Authorized Developers. For these reasons, Nintendo exercises a very high level of care in evaluating Authorized Developers.

This means that Bob doesn't fit the qualifications since it's just him in his own room.  He would need an office separate from his own room.  

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Re: Renegade DS Developer Ends Lock-Down Protest Against

Actaully, someone above took this little piece from his site "The lease on my office might have to be extended." so he does supposedly have an office outside of his room, and the part about developing excellent software is a matter of opinion that would be determined by the game he has made now or in the past... the only thing to question is the "stable business organization" part, in which i do not know how much he has set up

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Ah, well I guess he's a step farther than I thought.  But still, I could see how Nintendo would be wary of giving information they consider sensitive to a one-man developer who puts up youtube video of him working on his game in only his boxers.  And insulting Nintendo while he's protesting isn't winning him any point's either, I'm sure.

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Re: Renegade DS Developer Ends Lock-Down Protest Against

From what I understand, he has a home office, which doesn't count.

When they say "demonstrated the ability to develop and program excellent software for Nintendo video game systems" I think that's just a complicated way of saying "You need experience, son."  Like as a programmer for a gaming company.  Bob's got none. 

 

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Re: Renegade DS Developer Ends Lock-Down Protest Against

It's a sad day for capitalism when a man has to protest to be able to buy something, and even that is ignored by the salesmen.

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Nintendo has clear requirements that a person or business must meet before they even consider to sell the SDK.  He did not meet the requirements.  Simple as that.

I'm not sure where all the Nintendo-hate is coming from.  They have clear guidelines when someone applies to get the SDK.  If they don't meet the requirements, they are refused.  Why should Nintendo make an exception for this guy? 

 

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Re: Renegade DS Developer Ends Lock-Down Protest Against

Not that I disagree with you but you have to admit, there does really seem to be a problem when so many companies are happily getting permission from Nintendo to flood the Wii and DS with absolute garbage shovelware while this guy gets denied.  I don't agree with his methods but there is no denying the passion he has for his craft.  Meanwhile, DSI/Zoo Games, Conspiracy Entertainment, UFO Interactive and everyone else who pushes out garbage that only hurts the medium seems to be able to get dev kits without even trying.

The thing I don't get is that he kept claiming he had publishers who were interesting in releasing his game (though he never revealed who they were, maybe he couldn't I don't know.)  If that's true, could these publishers not have pulled the necessary strings to get a dev kit from Nintendo or at least shown them that his project was getting taken seriously?  I would think that's all he'd need so I can't help but wonder if there's something we aren't aware of here.

I think his best course of action now should be to concentrate on the Google Android port of his game he claims to be working on and maybe work on getting a digital-only PC release on the likes of Steam, Impulse, GamersGate etc.  That will at least allow people to experience his work and maybe if that succeeds, he'll have more luck putting it on the DS or the PSP.

I wish him luck, I just hope he's careful of the methods he uses to promote himself in the future.

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Re: Renegade DS Developer Ends Lock-Down Protest Against

I'm not sure what this guy expected. He doesn't have the right to do the game. If the company says sorry, not interested, then go somewhere else.

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Re: Renegade DS Developer Ends Lock-Down Protest Against

He shouldn't give nintendo his business, and put his talent on the open source bandwagon.

None of these corporations give a shit. too bad. Stop mourning, and topple them.

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Evidently, it's pretty easy for people to loose their minds in solitary confinement.

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Sounds like the guy lost his marbles. And just after 30 days? Seems like he was unstable to begin with. 30 days is nothing. Gods help him if he ever has to go to jail for some reason. He'd wind up in a rubber room after a week.

Yes, I am a liberal. I also believe in a strong military, less government, and the right to bear arms. 

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Even in prison, the inmates are taken out of their cells to get some recreation and to eat along side other inmates... as well as usually being in a cell with another person

If this guy really did seal himself away, that means he never left his room once and hasn't had any real human contact... furtharmore, he cut himself off from internet, tv and games... his only human contact was with his friend when he came to deliver a weekly food supply (which may not have been very healthy depending on what he was eating)... He gave himself very little if anything to do and he cut himself off from human contact almost completely. He essentially gave himself cabin fever... putting a person in that kind of isolation can cause a person to go stir crazy; how quickly however will vary form person to person...

i don't think this is something you can ride off as being "easy" unless you yourself have actually attempted to do something like this

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The funny thing is if this were posted anywhere else the mods here would be fighting a legion of fanboys that would claim that Nintendo is ruining gaming

To be honset I don't know what he expect.   I'm sure it isn't the first time a game company got word of someone claiming that they were going to do something extreme if they didn't publish something.  He's either passionate about his work or crazy... prehaps both.

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Actually, the majority of places where I've come across this story so far are siding with Nintendo on this one.

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The guy is a bitch and doesn't deserve any of the publicity this protest has brought, especially when there are much more hard working indie devs that will never get any. I hope that Nintendo just ignores the whole thing.

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Agreed. If you want a dev kit, make a big splash in the growing PC indie game market and get noticed. Don't cry like a bitch and lock yourself in your room.

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Re: Renegade DS Developer Ends Lock-Down Protest Against

Aw, man. It's sad to see that the cause is lost, but in the end it was inevitable. Nintendo doesn't give two shits and the whole isolation thing is a recipe for disaster.

I feel obliged to send him an email. Have it put onto the PSN of XBLA. Or Steam.

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Re: Renegade DS Developer Ends Lock-Down Protest Against

Not to downplay his achievement and work, because obviously this guy has done a LOT and seems to have succeeded in making something I know I could only dream of making. He has a lot of talent. BUT he also seems like a raving lunatic. You know how it is, there is a thin line between genius and madness. On his website, even before he goes completely nuts, he rants about how his game is the greatest game ever made and how he is the best developer in the world. Sounds a bit like he's got a few screws loose.

 

Also: Look closely at the image GP posted and the one on the Bobs Game Site. I sure hope that image isn't still streaming live, because thats a person laying there, surrounded by the clutter, right under the LED display...

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 From the site:

"I plan on staying in here 100 days or more, so we'll see where it goes. The lease on my office might have to be extended. 
Solitary confinement isn't exactly pleasant. I'm working 16 hour days with no human contact. 
If I'm not mad yet, I will be! "
 

/b

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"I've had enough. I'm ending the protest. I give up on getting the SDK. I really tried my best. Show's over. It's just not going to work. Sorry, everyone. I just can't stay in here. My head won't stop pounding. I feel like I'm losing my mind. It's like I'm splitting in half. I keep seeing these posts that I apparently wrote, but I can't remember writing them. I'm afraid I'm becoming someone else entirely."

...Psychosis?

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NOW is the perfect time for him to make a game or write a story or movie if it is.

Just look at Neon Genesis Evangelion. Dude went bat-shit crazy for like the last seven episodes of its creation and it went all fun house on everyone, now it is hailed as one of the best anime series ever.

"

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Uh... yeah... I just noticed it seems like the image is being refreshed every minute or so... Wait. Nevermind. He says it's a joke now at the top of that image.

"SORRY, EVERYONE! IM ALIVE!!! ITS JUST A JOKE!!! SORRY EVERYONE!!"

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Lol.. GOOD.. cuse yeah.. that would have been disturbing...

Re: Renegade DS Developer Ends Lock-Down Protest Against

I feel the need to quote Yahtzee here:

"The flaws of our childhood amusements disappear behind a rose tint because we associate them with a happier, innocent time before our first damning locker room stiffy." -XBLA Double Bill

So it is with this guy.  The potential for games has only gotten a lot better and we've seen an unprecedented number of great games - both new and indie - in the last several monts.  He doesn't need to develop a game, he needs help.  His comments illustrate that.

M. Carusi

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Games for the most part have gotten retardely easy though. Developers are dumbing down their product so that people can win easily and feel as if they have accomplished something. That was one thing I miss about the old-school gaming sessions, the way that a developer didn't care if he smashed your face in with a challenge.  Mega Man 9 was an awesome throw back to this as well as Bionic Commando: REArmed. Unfortunately, not many people will buy a game that is 'too hard' and developers have had to move away from their old mindset to increase sales figures.

 

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If you went back and played some of the games in the past, you MIGHT discovered games were much harder back in the day due to glitches, poor design, lack of playtesting, etc.  If you're going to tell me falling through the ground sprite in Castlevania was totally legit because I wasn't a single pixel over, well, you're quite made.

Games nowadays are much easier because they are much better made.  Remove the ability to save or even continue in many cases and you'll discover these "3-5 hour ripoffs" are the old school challenge you lament.

I don't understand one thing though.  Game nowadays does cheap deaths and pointlessly unfair scenarios and we bitch and complain about balance issues.  Game like Megaman 9 does the same thing and it "teh return of gr8ness old skuul challing."  It's little things like these that pisses me off about gamers sometimes.

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"If you went back and played some of the games in the past, you MIGHT discovered games were much harder back in the day due to glitches, poor design, lack of playtesting, etc."

Some old games, sure. That's still true today on lots of games, take a browse through Metacritic for the lowest-rated titles.

The challenge of "old-school" gaming that so many of us pine for was the product of a completely different industry mindset. Video games weren't necessarily designed to be "beaten", they were designed to make it as difficult as possible to get the high score. It's classic arcade design. Since arcades are pretty much dead these days, games are less about getting points and more about story. The trade-off is, unfortunately, that people who buy games today expect to be able to see the ending in a few hours, just like a movie.

"I paid full price! If I can't get to the end then this game just SUCKS!"

It used to be a reward. These days it's just a hand-out.

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He sounds like a bitch.

If he want's to develop for the DS that bad, just do what all the other indie devs are doing.  I've seen a lot of homebrew shit for the DS and I can pretty much gaurentee that none of them have an official SDK.

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He's done that, reportedly- it's just that his attempts to go legit, to willingly jump through Nintendo's hoops to be allowed to take his aparrently finished game and put it in a box- are going unheard, despite (or so he claims) having already gone through the proper channels.

/b

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He was stretching the truth when he said he was going through the proper channels.  He didn't meet the requirements one must prove before even being considered a SDK.

1) "An Authorized Developer will have demonstrated the ability to develop and program excellent software for Nintendo video game systems or for other game platforms."

-He has no previous experience.  His game could appear like the second-coming of Christ in digital form, it doesn't matter.  Had he at least had previous experience as a programmer for a different company things would be different.

 

2) "In addition, an Authorized Developer will have a stable business organization with secure office facilities separate from a personal residence ( Home offices do not meet this requirement )"

-He did start up an office...in his home.  He must have missed that part at the end.  Home offices are not considered.  Period.

 

3) ..."sufficient resources to insure the security of Nintendo confidential information and in order to ensure an effective environment for working with Nintendo and/or its Publishers. Nintendo provides Authorized Developers with highly confidential information and many of Nintendo's Publishers also rely on recommendations and referrals to Authorized Developers. For these reasons, Nintendo exercises a very high level of care in evaluating Authorized Developers."
 

-He gave out contact info entrusted to him from Nintendo.  Enough said.

 

4) "Financial stability is expected by Authorized Developers in order to purchase the necessary development equipment for your project."

-You need to show some stable finances.  You explain to me how someone who (claims anyway) works on a game 16 hours a day can hold down a job or makes money.

 

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A sad fact of gaming that I see is that everyone suddenly becomes an expert...

The real truth is that no one is ever an expert when it comes to videogames, it is only a belief that we have that we see that is the idea game for us...

Hardcore, Casual, gamers are people who call themselves gamers because they love videogames and they are proud of it.

People who play videogames but don't call themselves gamers are ok to, because they like videogames on the side but also have allot of other interests too...

and also Gamers, like myself, also have other interests too, but one thing I know as a gamer is that videogames are a special part of our lives and not everyone would feel the same thing about videogames as we gamers might feel. But that is what makes us gamers for a start.

One thing we must not do is to call ourselves expert gamers when in actural fact we can only specilize in a few certain feilds in gaming...

Anyone have something to add onto my comment?

TBoneTony

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So.. you are saying people can't be experts in ANYTHING?  Good God, wh don't you start petitioning to shut down Universities and kill any form of education and 'save' billions of pounds?

 

Of course there are game experts out there, just as there are hardcore.  I, for example, am a different breed of gamer than my DS / Pokemon loving sister.  Just ike music elitism, there are levels of fans, and until these bleeding heart 'we're all the same' types quit making such statements, all we'll get is watered down shovel-ware crap, just so a few soccer-mums might buy a copy.  It's a pathetic situation - God, how I long for the pre-PS1 days when going to a Game store meant you only met others like you.

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 This is not something sacred to gamers- music and film fans aren't much better (there's an advert for a noise-rock music TV channel in the UK which takes pretty much the same schtick)- it's just that gamers are a generally tech-savvy bunch and are kinda forced onto the internet for coverage and discussion of gaming, so it's a lot easier for us to see these sort of comments.

Whatever is being said about core vs. casual gamers from the core side is said about every other entertainment form, just in the bars, cafes, and living rooms of the world instead of on the internet, and as soon as they catch up with us in terms of internet adoption (or we catch up with them in terms of meatspace representation) then you'll soon see that we're just the same as everybody else.

/b

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I think nostalga, elitism, a persecution complex, and the current attitude of 'experts don't know anything but dogma, average people like ME really know how it is!' also factor in here.

I look around and and see a vibrant game market, a massive indy and home brew scene, and a truely wide range of game types.   What this person is probalby seeing is that one narrow slice no longer makes up as large of a percentage of 'gamers' as it used too therefor 'things are not as they were'..

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It's funny how he speaks about the "core audience". Most of the people I've heard make the same rants are the "hardcore" players who came in with the Playstation. You know, the same people who think that the only way a game can be good is by having bleeding edge (and nearly monochrome) graphics and more blood and guts than a slasher flick.

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 i agree with him 100%, sure, im only 18, but i know a good game when i see it, and the wii does NOT have good games on it

 

what

 

lets see

 

animal crossing: city folk...galaxy....damn...thats all

 

the list on ps3? cod4, mgs4, lbp, etc.

 

face it, the wii is a casual console.

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@DaMirrorLink

Obvious troll is obvious

Re: Renegade DS Developer Ends Lock-Down Protest Against

You forgot a few.

Zelda: TP
Metroid Prime 3
Super Smash Bros.
No More Heroes
Boom Blox
Zack & Wiki
Super Paper Mario

And since you mentioned CoD4, let's include some multiplatform titles too.

Rock Band 2
Guitar Hero World Tour
Okami
 

Re: Renegade DS Developer Ends Lock-Down Protest Against

Umm whoa. Yeah wish him well indeed. Sounds like he needs a bit of a break and few nights of good rest...get out and breathe a bit. Hope he feels better...

 
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