Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's Nintendo DS Game
Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's Nintendo DS Game
January 27, 2009
GameCulture reports on the strange case of an Indiana mother who has complained that her 8-year-old daughter's Baby Pals game for the Nintendo DS speaks the phrase "Islam is the light."
Readers may recall that a remarkably similar controversy last fall centered around Fisher-Price's Little Mommy Cuddle and Coo doll. And, in fact, the mother in this case, Rachel Jones, was also one of those who complained about her child's Cuddle and Coo doll.
In regard to the doll controversy, Mattel issued a statement in October which said that the only scripted word was "mama" and other baby talk sounds were gibberish.
Urban Legends reports that an audio expert experimented with the Cuddle and Coo doll and found that the phrase most closely sounded like "It's not near the light."
In fairness, the sound uttered by the DS game sounds exactly like the one that caused so much controversy in regard to the doll. We're wondering if Crave, publisher of Baby Pals, somehow licensed the same digitized audio file.
GP: So, is this a case of anti-Islamic paranoia or subtle indoctrination of America's youth? What do you think, GP readers?
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Andrew Eisen: No, I think I'll stay safe and warm in my own little world where Provolone is king and that... other cheese... doesn't exist.
Andrew Eisen: No, I think I'll stay safe and warm in my own little world where Provolone is king and that... other cheese... doesn't exist.
Posted 03/21/10 at 06:22pm
JDKJ: I wish the Speaker would ask me for what purpose does the member rise.
JDKJ: I wish the Speaker would ask me for what purpose does the member rise.
Posted 03/21/10 at 06:18pm
JDKJ: Provolone?! Please! Try aged Blue Stilton. Also known as Zippy Ass-Crack Cheese.
JDKJ: Provolone?! Please! Try aged Blue Stilton. Also known as Zippy Ass-Crack Cheese.
Posted 03/21/10 at 06:13pm
Andrew Eisen: Nothing beats Provolone.
Andrew Eisen: Nothing beats Provolone.
Posted 03/21/10 at 06:11pm
JDKJ: Betcha my cheese beats your cheese.
JDKJ: Betcha my cheese beats your cheese.
Posted 03/21/10 at 06:09pm
Andrew Eisen: I don't know, I can count pretty high with my graphing calculator. It's a TI-86!
Andrew Eisen: I don't know, I can count pretty high with my graphing calculator. It's a TI-86!
Posted 03/21/10 at 06:07pm
JDKJ: There'll be more dead babies than you can count if the socialists succeed in passing that God-damned Obamacare!!
JDKJ: There'll be more dead babies than you can count if the socialists succeed in passing that God-damned Obamacare!!
Posted 03/21/10 at 06:04pm
Andrew Eisen: Hmm, top 10 child deaths in film. What a great blog post that would make! If I had a blog. And if that hadn't been done a million times before.
Andrew Eisen: Hmm, top 10 child deaths in film. What a great blog post that would make! If I had a blog. And if that hadn't been done a million times before.
Posted 03/21/10 at 06:03pm
JDKJ: Whoa! It's some rotten blue cheese, too.
JDKJ: Whoa! It's some rotten blue cheese, too.
Posted 03/21/10 at 06:00pm
JDKJ: *sighs and smiles* I just cut some cheese.
JDKJ: *sighs and smiles* I just cut some cheese.
Posted 03/21/10 at 05:58pm
Andrew Eisen: Well, just so there's no confusion: implied deaths won't get you to the top of my favorite child-deaths list.
Andrew Eisen: Well, just so there's no confusion: implied deaths won't get you to the top of my favorite child-deaths list.
Posted 03/21/10 at 05:58pm
JDKJ: Most authorities hold that "cut the mustard" mutates and derives from "cut the muster."
JDKJ: Most authorities hold that "cut the mustard" mutates and derives from "cut the muster."
Posted 03/21/10 at 05:56pm
Andrew Eisen: Checked the dictionary. I guess you could cut one definition of muster.
Andrew Eisen: Checked the dictionary. I guess you could cut one definition of muster.
Posted 03/21/10 at 05:56pm
JDKJ: Don't take my word for it. Look it up yourself.
JDKJ: Don't take my word for it. Look it up yourself.
Posted 03/21/10 at 05:55pm
Andrew Eisen: Cut the muster? That wouldn't make a lot of sense. You could pass it sure but cut it?
Andrew Eisen: Cut the muster? That wouldn't make a lot of sense. You could pass it sure but cut it?
Posted 03/21/10 at 05:53pm
JDKJ: As in: "Zippy always cuts the cheese but he never cuts the muster."
JDKJ: As in: "Zippy always cuts the cheese but he never cuts the muster."
Posted 03/21/10 at 05:51pm
JDKJ: And I believe the expression is more properly "cut the muster," not "mustard." Not to be confused with "cut the cheese."
JDKJ: And I believe the expression is more properly "cut the muster," not "mustard." Not to be confused with "cut the cheese."
Posted 03/21/10 at 05:48pm
JDKJ: I kinda like the way it's left to the imagination. Like the shower scene in Hitchcock's Psycho.
JDKJ: I kinda like the way it's left to the imagination. Like the shower scene in Hitchcock's Psycho.
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Andrew Eisen: A flying shoe doesn't quite cut the mustard. If it was shot like a similar scene in Bride of Chucky, Gage's death would rank a lot higher.
Andrew Eisen: A flying shoe doesn't quite cut the mustard. If it was shot like a similar scene in Bride of Chucky, Gage's death would rank a lot higher.
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I'm willing to bet there is either a free, or at least cheaply licenced, library of baby cooing. It's kind of like Everywhere Girl. Something cheaply licenced and so it gets used anytime you need baby sounds.
I tend to agree.
You wouldnt believe the idiots in Indiana, and the stupid things they bring to people's attention. I really think people like this lady have nothing better to do with their lives, and have no idea of sound libraries. Indiana is pretty much a walking stereotype trying to break free from itself, but fails at every turn.
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You just don't understand the Midwest mindset. We are a very conservative people.
the hell we are. it's just these idiots that are. also, proximity to kentucky tends to do this kind of stuff to people.
It is not murder; I am merely advancing the hands of the clock, just a bit.
98% of people living in Indiana are completely misinformed about the majority of things in existence... trust me, I've lived here all my life.
...oh, they're also attention whores...
...and I'd still never move.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" - Benjamin Franklin
With ya there. I love it here
I live in Indiana as well, though what I'm about to say is more about my hometown than Indiana as a whole. Turns out I like Indianapolis and its people much better.
I grew up around people who are wholly ignorant. Half the guys in my school were willful idiots, as in they could have been better or smarter, but just didn't give a damn. They also had really short tempers, one guy actually tried to pick a fight with me because I called him out on not following safety rules in the gym (using clips on weights while benching) and a 45 pound plate fell off and landed about 3 inches from my foot. Know what the general reaction to that incident was? "Bah, he would have gotten his ass kicked..." and various comments like that.
Everyone owns a pickup truck, they all are loud as hell in both engine and speaker systems, and a lot of people are religious nutjobs.
Looking at it in that light, its pretty easy for me to imagine someone being upset over hearing something like that, whether its true or not. People here don't like being told that they are wrong, or that someone might know better than them. Particularly when it comes to children, and equally as much when it comes to religious beliefs different from their own.
Of course, thats not to say everyone is like that. Despite how I feel about quite a number of people where I grew up, I've met several people who actually use their heads, adn the number of them seems to be increasing as I am associating with older people. I guess our youth here in Indiana is just messed up. I still like the state though, wish they had more game related companies so that I don't have to move out to find a job in the gaming industry.
EDIT: cut out like half the crap I said, was way too long and sounded angsty. I really do like my state, im just not a big fan of my hometown.
Okay, everyone here in Indiana, how much inches of snow do you have? I have about 10"... Just dug the girlfriend's car out, and helpped 3 neighbors out of the parking lot... Insane snow...
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A similar amount here. I'm just happy that I knew someone who owned a snow blower. It would have taken hours to handle my driveway and sidewalk with a dang shovel. Doesn't help at all that i'm out of shape (not fat, just not active at all), so I get winded easily, lol.
I basically had to body check my screen door to open it up, there was so much snow.
98% of people living in America are completely misinformed about the majority of things in existence
Fixed!
Hey, I resent..... never mind. :D
"I was young and naive. I some how got it stuck in my head that socialism was the greatest thing in the world. Then... I grew up and became a Cammy. Thing's have been looking up ever since!"
"I was young and naive. I some how got it stuck in my head that socialism was the greatest thing in the world. Then... I grew up and became a Cammy. Thing's have been looking up ever since!"
Yeah... Communism has only been responsible for killing over 100 million innocent people. Come on, let's give it one more chance!
In philsophy class many years ago, one of the things covered was the Communist Manifesto.
The USSR hit about 5 of the 10 points.
US hit 8.
98% of people living in America are completely misinformed about the majority of things in existence
Nope... Just the 60+ million ignoramuses who voted for Barack "the Almighty Messiah" Obama are.
You. Are. An. Idiot.
Ever notice how the only people that even mention Obama as the Messiah are conservatives of the fox news variety, in other words, idiots.
I also find it extremly ironic that you call those that voted for Obama ignoramuses considering that one of the focuses of McCain's campaign was that Obama was a Harvard elitist out of touch with the "everyday american" despite the fact the McCain owns seven, or was it eight houses, well turns out that the actual everyday American is intelligent enough to realize that the Republicans fucked us over after electing a man who's only goal for his presidency was to catch his version of Cobra Commander(and failing miserably) and Darth Cheney.
I am the Everyday American so are the people that voted with me, you are the Ignoramus of this tale, the idiot the refuses to better himself.
There have always been motherf*ckers, there will always be motherf*ckers, but what we can't do is let them control our motherf*cking lives. -John Oliver, December 1st, 2008
And here we return to my favorite topic, the invisible profit Cheney supposedly made with Halliburton during the 8 years of the W presidency.
Except, sadly, he never had a paying position. He was always on the board of directors. His profit from it? $0, but years ago he did get some lovely stock, most of which was in other companies with a few shares of Halliburton as a thank you.
Now let's turn to the invisible 'war in Iraq' profit. The oil rigs in Iraq were, much like last time, lit aflame, and there are THREE oil companies in the world that are capable of handling oil rigs in that condition. One is German (or French), one is RUSSIAN, and one is American. Which would you rather have doing that work, the people who decided not to help, or the people who brought with them some of the best food the soldiers have eaten since being deployed there?
Oh, and he accidentally shot a guy with a shotgun. Big fucking deal.
I never said anything about Haliburton, I was refering to the whole approving torture thing and the shooting his friend in the face with a shotgun.
also if you were shot in the face with a shotgun by the VP would you say "big fucking deal"?
There have always been motherf*ckers, there will always be motherf*ckers, but what we can't do is let them control our motherf*cking lives. -John Oliver, December 1st, 2008
And I thought people in Texas were bad... oh wait, we are :p
"You wouldnt believe the idiots in Indiana, and the stupid things they bring to people's attention. I really think people like this lady have nothing better to do with their lives, and have no idea of sound libraries. Indiana is pretty much a walking stereotype trying to break free from itself, but fails at every turn."
Kinda like the idiots who have nothing better to do with their lives but play video games and spout insipid left-wing politics on message boards.
did you know that Republican Kool-aid is know to cause stupidity and cancer; that is cancer of the intellect
There have always been motherf*ckers, there will always be motherf*ckers, but what we can't do is let them control our motherf*cking lives. -John Oliver, December 1st, 2008
You know what, if you've played Led Zeppelin's "Stairway to Heaven" backwards?
You hear the devil speaks...
But I think its all an urban legend.
Though, I'm sure extremists are all about corrupting our youth. *sigh*
Oddly enough, that was the first thing I thought of when I read this. You can trick yourself into hearing a lot of stuff if you want to. Listen to Stairway to Heaven backward without a set of supposed lyrics, and you'll only hear gibberish. Pull up a set of words, and your brain will trick you into hearing the words. It's probably the same thing with this lady and the doll.
Humans have a built in mechanism in our brains to make sense out of randomness. For seeing, it's called paradolia. I have no idea what the technical term is for the hearing version of this, but I know that, if we can look at a door/tortilla/(insert stupid object here) and see Jesus/The Virgin Mary/(insert stupid religious individual here), then we likely have the same wiring in our heads for sounds, to recoginze and make sense out of it.
After all, its better to believe that the charging animals are going to run you over, you move and nothing happens, then it is for you to not recognize the sounds, and get your face turned into hamburger.
"If christian's and their portrayal of heaven is correct.... I would rather be in hell. After all, would you rather sit around on clouds all day or party with the other cool people who were too go for heaven too?"
"If christian's and their portrayal of heaven is correct.... I would rather be in hell. After all, would you rather sit around on clouds all day or party with the other cool people who were too go for heaven too?"
Fine, enjoy hell then. We won't miss you, I promise.
Hahah! Heaven and Hell. That's Funny. Let's just hope neither is an alternate universe.
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I'll just pass it off as an Isolated incident
Give me a break. First of all, is the phrase really that offensive? Secondly, it's just gibberish, you're hearing what you want to hear. Thirdly, buy your kids cooler toys.
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"And, in fact, the mother in this case, Rachel Jones, was also one of those who complained about her child's Cuddle and Coo doll."
Says it all really. Woman has got an anti-Muslim chip on her shoulder and ergo even if the sound vaguely resembles the afforementioned phrase, there's a fair bet that the "million monkeys on a million typewriters" effect is evidencing here...
"Woman has got an anti-Muslim chip on her shoulder and ergo even if the sound vaguely resembles the afforementioned phrase, there's a fair bet that the "million monkeys on a million typewriters" effect is evidencing here..."
Yeah, kinda reminds me of the anti-Christian, anti-American leftists on this board who choose to live in denial and disillusion themselves into thinking that Islam is a peaceful and tolerant religion that would never bring to harm anyone who doesn't subscribe to their radical beliefs. Just ask the victims' families of 9/11.
But I get it with the leftists... Blame America and Christians first.
Anti-American leftists huh?
should "leftists" be allowed to vote?
I await your answer
There have always been motherf*ckers, there will always be motherf*ckers, but what we can't do is let them control our motherf*cking lives. -John Oliver, December 1st, 2008
Hey man, ever remember the phrase "Judge not lest ye be judged"?
Or should I just assume that your Christianity stands for suicide pacts, fiddling with little boys and killing gay people and jews in the thousands?
Because I mean after all, the people that did those things were all Christian, right? Surely they represent Christianity.
Don't forget witch burnings, inquistions and torture of non believers and christian cults that the christians in power disagreed with(or would inconvenience the churches power monopoly). While christian conservatives almays make a big deal about how many non-christian leaders killed, we really have no idea the number of people killed by christian leaders (they didnt exactly keep great history records in the past and the winner never writes down the number of people killed in a war/inquistion/crusade). Just look at Iraq, we can tell you the exact number of Americans killed, but no one really knows the amount of Iraqis killed.
...Government will regard it as its first and foremost duty to revive in the nation the spirt of unity and cooperation. It will preserve and defend those basic principles on which our nation has been built. It regards Christianity as the foundation of our national morality, and the family as the basis of national life."
--Adolf Hitler, 1933
Of course, it's all so clear now! Anyone with left-leaning politics really just hates America! Thanks for taking a complex issue like politics and boiling it down to sheer stupidity and fear-mongering.
Obviously Anti-Islamic paranoia, this is nothing new. Anything sounds specific if you are expecting it.
I think it's offencive for finding that phase offencive.
This is pathetic, I bet if it said "Christianity is the light" she wouldn't have complained. It's like they're saying that Islamic messages shouldn't be taught or something. In my opinion, anyone should have the right to see all religions, beliefs or whatever else and be what they want to be. This line is insignificant and she is blocking her child from having the chance of believing in Islam if the child should want to.
Note: I'm not saying Islam, Christianity or any other form of belief is right or wrong. I just think everyone should have a fair choice.
Agreed. I mean, it wasn't just Christians that thought Jack was a nutter for using his faith as an excuse for his actions.
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They absolutely wouldn't care. Go read the comments on the website and someone claiming to be the husband of the woman comments about how they are conservative Christian and teaching their kids to fear Satan's influence and crap.
http://www.popularculturegaming.com
I wouldnt doubt if they are Pentecostal, which is pretty common in Indiana unluckily...
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My reaction exactly.
I'm Christian and I believe that if a game referred to any religion even my own that I'd be offended...specially if it's geared at small children...it's a parents job to instill morals. I was Raised Luthran...guess what? I'm not Luthran...I'm pretty much a non denomination Christian that sees all Religions in some form or another as ajoined to the others (So maybe I'm Agnostic with Christian tendancies), I think personally that Religion should only play as much a roll in a child's life as learning morals...they don't get to choose their religion until they're old enough to choose it without outside influence...most kids if bridgejump Religion was the fad would practice that to be in with the popular kids...Let them get old enough to decide before saying they should choose because kids (Specially 8 year olds) are stupid in the popularity sense...and yes I've met a number of intellegent 11,12,13 year olds and so forth...but Socially they're still morons...and to me a Religion or lack there of is a really huge decission and they're too flighty to choose at that point (There are however always exceptions to the rules...)
This woman's clearly mentally ill. Is CPS going to take her kids away before she drowns them in the tub so they can be with Jesus?
"GP: So, is this a case of anti-Islamic paranoia or subtle Islamic indoctrination of America's youth? What do you think, GP readers?"
Frist off youer slipping thats what I think secondly jibberish is is all about what you think you hear unlike zippy speak which is sjut noise...... :P
Gore,Violence,Sexauilty,Fear,Emotion these are but modes of transportation of story and thought, to take them from society you create a society of children and nannys, since adults are not required.
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If you don't like his editorial style and content, you can leave. There is nothing holding you here. He doesn't have to report on every single game studio closing or laying off workers. He has made some general state of the industry posts that covered the layoffs to some degree.
But as it seems you are well aware of studio layoffs, perhaps you don't need Dennis to report on it. You just want to project yourself and your priorities on this site.
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But the trouble is he has articled dev closings before and the sudden ignoring of them is...well.... annoying, that and this 2nd hand sensationalist crap is..well...more annoying.
I have decided I will be leaving messages about my discontent with his...mmm.... choices of articles he picks, at least for as long as I can remember and with my luck that should be a day or 2.
I am not the only one that thinks if you are going to do generalized game news that closings and other..er... REAL game related stuff is more important than a guy jacking off his console or other such similar crap. This dose not mean I will post in every shooter slayer article whining about something, just the more unimportant followup's GP tends to do for the sake of sensitization.
The reason hard news died was becuse it chose to become entertainment , the reason I come to GP is its been able to mix the 2 for the past year its been getting more fluffy and I don't care for it but thats probably do to the new owners/partners(ECA) pressing their weight around.
I am already seeing news and official comments based to districted from real issues..I am hoping its just my tinfoil glasses that are getting in the way...
I shouldn't be breaking any rules being bothered with the way GP is doing things I am not offensive(but for my rapeing grammar) and stating as much, and I also see no need to truly insult merely point out the apparent failings of the day in a humorous yet repetitive thus boring way. Not to mention I rag on myself more.... *insert tampon+zippy+virgin joke here*
LOL
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PS:
Luv you man, but I completely disagree it would be nice if a competent site tried to remain competent covering important news and keeping score of closings as they are just starting to get worse the fact you and Dennis do not see that and are not wanting to keep track what parts of the industry are going to fail do to the world financial system going boom..is just arrogant and incompetent.... rough times are coming someone needs to keep track and stay focused and not just chase skirts and blow their budget on cheap whine and cheaper women(mostly sensationalist story's).
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Mind you I am looking at the site as more a new based one than poltics since GP did open up the format more but what he really did was open up to anything that can be politicized. Still massive layoffs and closings are something to not be so ignored.....
Gore,Violence,Sexauilty,Fear,Emotion these are but modes of transportation of story and thought, to take them from society you create a society of children and nannys, since adults are not required.
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Wow Zach, who lit the fuse on your tampon?
What the hell, man? Why would you say something like that?
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Because he's entitled to his opinion. It's not half as offensive as some of the stuff I've read (or written) here.
Wait....what? Am I the only one who didn't understand 50% of what was typed there?
You have to project the punctuation with your mind. A common staple of Zippy's comments.
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Punctuation, spelling,grammar oh hell you have to re do it all to understand WTF I just said :P
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It's a case of anti-Islamic paranoia.
There. That's my opinion. Babies say gibberish, pure and simple.
Game on, brothers and sisters.
I'm going with the paranoia, although it does sound exactly like the sound the doll made.
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Sigh... at least wait until your kid recites something remotely islamic before becoming paranoid. Besides, if you hear something once and expect to hear it again you might think you did. I would be shocked if this woman is remotely accurate in her claims. I think she's just another woman who's given in to this anti-Islamic BS.
"Sigh... at least wait until your kid recites something remotely islamic before becoming paranoid."
LOL! I'll bet you also would say, "Sigh... at least wait until the Islamic Fascist terrorists hit us with chemical or nuclear weapons before becoming paranoid." A typical leftist mindset that will ultimately destroy us if this insane ideology ever gets implemented in this country on a grand scale. But, hey, if our enemies do destroy us, I guess the American left can at least feel good about their "tolerance" and political correctness before they go to their own graves, right?
Sigh... this is getting old
so what would you do? lock all Muslims in Gitmo regardless of human rights and freedom of religion?
Hey guess what, I'm an Atheist, I believe in Human rights, religious equality, freedom of speech, life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, and the Constitution of the United States.
What do you have to say to that motherfucker? Come and get me you theocratic asshole.
There have always been motherf*ckers, there will always be motherf*ckers, but what we can't do is let them control our motherf*cking lives. -John Oliver, December 1st, 2008
Personally I am more worried about an asteroid or comet smacking the world then a "Islamic Fascist terrorist" with a nuke. Then again I am also more worried about being killed by an american driving down the road in a car accident then a "Islamic Fascist Terrorist" killing me. We americans are better at killing each other, why do the islamic fascist need to join in?
A garbled gibberish message sounds vaguely sort-of similar to a string of English words that suggest a particular non-Christian religion is good.
This is, of course, part of a Grand Conspiracy. Ban this sick filth now.
I heard the doll say it, but I was looking for it so it might be that they might have misheard and heard what they were trying to hear.
I say it's all bullshit.
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I think I'm suffering from the same thing. I trust it's all jibberish, but because the news program suggested what I should hear, I heard that.
Personally I think that woman should get a hobby outside of listening to her kids toys.
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It sounded more like "God is the light"
I'm offended now....
Methinks you left off the sarcasm tag. Religious people getting butthurt over references to God is bullshit.
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Anti Islam propaganda its the news after all. Plus its rated E it does NOT have be changed because it says it or "sounds like it says it". Nothing wrong here.
How is baby pals a reward for good grades, not only is it shitty but isn't giving it to her as a reward for good grades like saying "Oh you made good grades and will do well, here take this and learn to be a good little housewife." I mean really why would anyone want to play a game about taking care of a baby, when there is so many other more interesting, and actually good games out there. Why do developers think that the only thing girls are interested in are Babyz and Ponyz?
There have always been motherf*ckers, there will always be motherf*ckers, but what we can't do is let them control our motherf*cking lives. -John Oliver, December 1st, 2008
There is the possibility that the mother took her daughter to the store and the daughter picked that game....
Just saying...
Paranoia at it's finest. Worse still than the paranoid mother is the incredibly ignorant news broadcast that clearly doesn't understand the concept of 'third party software'.
And... doesn't even QUESTION whether the mom is just hearing things.
So the Muslims are targeting our children through shovelware?
Is it anti-muslim hysteria? Well, look at it like this; if the game said "Jesus is the light" would it be a story?
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Guess she hasn't figured out how to play CDs backwards so has to make stuff up about talking toys.
Don't let her listen to the Teletubbies dolls!
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I don't get the big deal. Islam is the light.
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ROFL!
Words escape me, they really do, I cannot find words to express how completely cracked up this is.
What next, I wonder, banning croissants because not only are they French, but they look a bit like a Crescent! Shock Horror! Subliminal advertising! Run for the Hills!
Oh God, what a belly-laugh I just had....
Eh, there are better non-troversies to manufacture about Baby Pals: http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/2009/01/sick-baby-p-simulator-peddled-by.h...
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I don't see what the big deal is. It doesn't sound like "Islam is the light" unless you really want it to, and... well... even if it did sound like that particular phrase, so what? I'm not a big fan of religious indoctrination, particularly of the sneaky variety, but it wouldn't be enough to change the rating.
Besides, it's just Islam -- a very large, mainstream religion that is practiced by millions of peaceful, law-abiding people all over the world. It's not like it's some crazy cult. Admittedly I still haven't started reading the free Quran that I picked up last week -- the Muslim Students' Club at my university was handing them out -- but from what I know of it, it's an awful lot like the bible but with some extra stuff tacked on and a few bits reintepreted, kinda like what Christians did to Judaism.
Well said. I'm also against religious indoctrination, in fact I'm against indoctrination of any kind.
People should not force their views on others. They should be more open to how others view things, and not condemn them unless what they plan to do with their views threatens to either endanger or indoctrinate other people.
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I remember playing Mortal Kombat and hearing Raiden's scream as he "supermanned" himself towards the opponent. Me and my friends all hear different things. One thought he helled "Raiden bubbly!", I thought he said "Your mother is from LA"...and other absurd things.
This would be an example of hearing gibberish and placing your own paranoid thoughts into it...and hearing what you want to hear. Sadly I see Fox jumping all over this one for the next week.
Actually to me it sounded like "Is the ham on the right" :)
It always sounded to me like he shouted "Pass the pepper, please!"
I like the comment "This game is rated E for everyone, which means it's supposed to be suitable for all ages."
...does that mean you're equating a comment about Islam with swearing, porn, and violence?
I freaking hate ignorant people.
-Austin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_wjSk1myXs
First off, Go Indiana!
Second, what a stretch.
That's all I've got.
Looks like the argument of this group can be reduced to 'Islam == Shariah == Child marraige == material risk for girls'
So if their daughters hear 'islam is the light' they will up and get themselves an arranged marriage to some middle aged polygamist. And at that point we get into 'why take the risk?' territory.
Obvious anti-Islam paranoia. Pathetic and mentally challenged.
Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Hornets, Jack Thompson can geaux chase a chupacabra.
so it's just coincidence that the same single bitch in the whole world found two electronics that preach Islam subversively?
i think it's more likely that she's a fucking loon.
Here are we -- and yonder yawns the universe.
I'm going with "anti-Islamist paranoia." Kinda like when they were claiming Obama was a Muslim as a smear campaign, and even his supporters could only say, "No he's not." The correct response was, "Why would that matter, why would that be a negative?"
Islam and Muslims = bad. Apparently. Fear the differences!
A look at the bible and the koran would show how completely different Islam and Christianity are. But most people like to stay in there world of ignorance and recite what others say without fact checking, kind of like this newsclip. But that's for another time.
Quoth the Holy Quran (3:45):
Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! Allah gives you glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah; "He shall speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. And he shall be (of the company) of the righteous." She said: "O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man has touched me?" He said: "Even so: Allah creates what He wills: when He has decreed a Plan, He but says to it, 'Be,' and it is! And Allah will teach him the Book and Wisdom, the Torah and the Gospel, and (appoint him) a Messenger to the Children of Israel"
Yep, totally different!
I would say less 'differnt' and more 'superset/subset'. Islam is a branch of Christianity (kinda like Mormonism only more so) that accepts both the Christian and Jewish texts as cannon.
Er...not exactly. Islam, like Christianity and Judaism, is an Abrahamic religion. The similarities exist because all three religions come from the same place. Islam isn't a subset of Christianity; Muhammad wasn't a Christian who started his own faction. xD
http://www.darkesword.com/
Things tend to get a bit murkey when one tries to pull apart the tangled roots of various faiths.
In Islam's case, as I understood it you had (local faiths) + (influence of Christian Monks) + (new stuff from Muhammad). So Christianity formed one of the roots. While in theory Islam claims to go back to the root Abrahamic piece and rebuild from there in practice they built off a snapshot of current Chrisitian faith and modified from there.
A lot of people still thin he's a Muslim, and chances are that's not gonna change
There have always been motherf*ckers, there will always be motherf*ckers, but what we can't do is let them control our motherf*cking lives. -John Oliver, December 1st, 2008
I'm going with "anti-Islamist paranoia." Kinda like when they were claiming Obama was a Muslim as a smear campaign, and even his supporters could only say, "No he's not." The correct response was, "Why would that matter, why would that be a negative?"
Um, because a significant number of them throughout parts of the world believe that if you're not a Muslim, you're an Infidel and therefore you must either be converted or killed. (And, yes, that includes you do-gooder "tolerant" leftists!)
"Islam and Muslims = bad. Apparently. Fear the differences!"
Except on this message board, it's "America and Christianity = bad".
There have always been motherf*ckers, there will always be motherf*ckers, but what we can't do is let them control our motherf*cking lives. -John Oliver, December 1st, 2008
Is there a particular reason you're such an ass to those that don't assume all muslims are terrorists?
Once upon a time it was(and it seems some want to return to those times):
Um, because a significant number of them throughout parts of the world believe that if you're not a Christian, you're an Infidel and therefore you must either be converted or killed.
Um, because a significant number of them throughout parts of the world believe that if you're not a Muslim, you're an Infidel and therefore you must either be converted or killed. (And, yes, that includes you do-gooder "tolerant" leftists!)
Except on this message board, it's "America and Christianity = bad".
So the logical response it to troll, because this accomplishes so much. Your response to why Obama being a Muslim matters doesn't even make sense. Kid, you're so concerned about taking pot shots at liberals/left/Democrats/etc, that your posts are mostly nonsense at this point.
As for this woman, I saw of video clip of the doll speaking a while back and the sound quality of the toy was so poor, you could barely make out "mama." Poor kid is going to be banned from owning any toy that makes noise in that household soon enough.
This woman is indeed crazy. I bet she's one that has one of those imaginary "god" friends in her head that gives her divine advice.
It's almost impossible to pass a day in the western world without having some form of christian propaganda shoved in your face... what's the big deal?
-- Olly
What Christian propaganda? No one in the video mentions anyone being a Christian. Just curious.
Not specifically in that video no - but it's rife with hypocrisy.
My point is that Jebus & God are all through the media, be it games, the news, movies, books, presidential speeches... but the I-bomb in dropped in some random video game and it's breaking news.
-- Olly
Totally agree with you there. If I had a dime for every time that somebody shoved God and Christ in my face, I'd be a rich man.
Wow. The "I-bomb." As a Muslim, let me be the first to say that I find that absolutely hilarious. xD
http://www.darkesword.com/
It's almost impossible to pass a day in the western world without having some form of christian propaganda shoved in your face... what's the big deal?
-- Olly
Well, if you don't like it, then why don't you get out of the western part of the world? Christianity was here long before you were.
What relavence has your response got to do with the point I'm making; you sound like a child.
-- Olly
You do know that Christianity is not America's official religion? We have no official religion. America is officially atheist.
Technically you are wrong....the native american religions were here LONG before christians were on this side of the world.
This "reporter," Jessica Hayes, seems to have displayed her email address (jhayes@wthitv.com) at about 37 seconds into the video. She's practicaly asking to be corrected.
All I heard was, "Min nom ninna nai". The game is clearly anti-ninna.
"There is no sin except stupidity." - Oscar Wilde
BWA HA HA HA HA HAAAAAA.. Oh I love it. Georgie georgie georgie. You have birthed upon us an entire generation of ultraparanoid fundamentalists afraid of a religion thats basically a cousin of the same one most of these yokels follow. I am surprised to see that this wasn't from Fox News.. Wait, I am a dirty Canadian; IS IT?
The only difference between the Sane and the Insane, is IN and yet within this world, the Sane have the power to have the Insane locked up.
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson
Fox News is a cable news channel, seen nationally. This appears to be a local TV news operation. Local TV is often a dump of bad, poorly sourced information designed to drum up viewers. "Full story at 11!"
Oh MY GOD!!!(not to be confused with your god or their god, if you do you will go to hell...wait do I believe in hell? ah whatever...)
This is the Islamic terror invasion that President Bush warned us about for 8 years... We went toIraq
/obviously not being serious here...
"This is the Islamic terror invasion that President Bush warned us about for 8 years... We went toIraq
Of course, there hasn't been another attack on American soil since 9/11/01 thanks to President Bush (and no thanks to the liberals, Democrat Party, and Drive-By media who tried to do everything in their power to undermine the war effort from the beginning). Of course, now that we have a president of highly questionable affiliations and origins who is willing to sit across the bargaining table with mad dictators like Ahmadinejad and Chavez, I guess we're all supposed to feel safe now.
There have been thousands of attacks on americans since 9/11... and Iraq war made the problem many times greater than it was...
I am not against war, I am against wars for oil...when alteranatives can easily be developed and implemented with similar monetary investments... so I am against pointless wars...
It's not because of, it's in spite of Bush's action that we haven't had another attack on US soil, the bombing and the loss of civilian life and the torture are used by the terrorists to recrut new suicide bombers. Bush is like a guy that drives by a dry forest and flicks a lit ciggarette into it then later says that it was because of the ciggarette flicking the the forest didn't burn down, when really it was in spite of his actions that the forest didn't burn down
There have always been motherf*ckers, there will always be motherf*ckers, but what we can't do is let them control our motherf*cking lives. -John Oliver, December 1st, 2008
"anti-Islamic paranoia" ??? It cant be paranoia because that'd mean you are afraid of something for no reason.
Dear Stupid Soccer mom:
You are hearing only what you want to hear. Stop being paranoid and let your kids have dangerous toys already. If natural selection is as great as I hear it is, at least you won't have to worry about your kids anymore
Love, DCoW
A woman like this doesn't seem like the type who'd buy into a myth like "natural selection." Come on man, that sounds dangerously close to "science."
http://www.darkesword.com/
Either way, she's stupid. I mean, anyone who tries to get entertainment banned over bullshit like religion is stupid. I mean, look at Jack, and I'm sure I don't need to tell you about him.
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"GP: So, is this a case of anti-Islamic paranoia or subtle indoctrination of America's youth? What do you think, GP readers?"
Objection your Honor. Leading.
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There have always been motherf*ckers, there will always be motherf*ckers, but what we can't do is let them control our motherf*cking lives. -John Oliver, December 1st, 2008
I'm more disturbed about this that this mother doesn't like the message 'islam is the light' more than anything.
Does she just flat out hate the muslim religion? and why? because extremists twisted what their scriptures actually mean?
What if it said "jesus is the light" ?
Would she have complained as much then?
It's these questions I need answers to find out why people dowhat they do.
It sounds to me like you have never read the Quran. "Islam is Light," is a fallacy much in the same vein as, "Christianity is Tolerance."
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/int/long.html
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/cruelty/long.html
I'll admit she should have just pitched the toy into the trash if she was that offended (the game, too). And she's ignorant as to how our brains make patterns from nothing because it's how we perceive our surroundings, when we ony really "see" a small fraction of what we perceive. It's obvious that she'd rather be outraged and offended than learn from this situation, which is my major issue with her actions.
However, it's worth noting that you can be anti-Islam, and not be a bigot or paranoid.
~~All Knowledge is Worth Having~~
Come on! Will everything be liable for a lawsuit? It is surprising how a Nintendo DS AC adapter can be blamed for starting a fire when there a millions in homes around the world and that has not happened before.
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