Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's Nintendo DS Game

January 27, 2009 -

GameCulture reports on the strange case of an Indiana mother who has complained that her 8-year-old daughter's Baby Pals game for the Nintendo DS speaks the phrase "Islam is the light."

Readers may recall that a remarkably similar controversy last fall centered around Fisher-Price's Little Mommy Cuddle and Coo doll. And, in fact, the mother in this case, Rachel Jones, was also one of those who complained about her child's Cuddle and Coo doll.

In regard to the doll controversy, Mattel issued a statement in October which said that the only scripted word was "mama" and other baby talk sounds were gibberish.

Urban Legends reports that an audio expert experimented with the Cuddle and Coo doll and found that the phrase most closely sounded like "It's not near the light."

In fairness, the sound uttered by the DS game sounds exactly like the one that caused so much controversy in regard to the doll. We're wondering if Crave, publisher of Baby Pals, somehow licensed the same digitized audio file.

GP: So, is this a case of anti-Islamic paranoia or subtle indoctrination of America's youth? What do you think, GP readers?


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Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

I'm more disturbed about this that this mother doesn't like the message 'islam is the light' more than anything.

 

Does she just flat out hate the muslim religion? and why? because extremists twisted what their scriptures actually mean?

 

What if it said "jesus is the light" ?

 

Would she have complained as much then?

 

It's these questions I need answers to find out why people dowhat they do.

Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

It sounds to me like you have never read the Quran.  "Islam is Light," is a fallacy much in the same vein as, "Christianity is Tolerance."

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/int/long.html

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/cruelty/long.html

I'll admit she should have just pitched the toy into the trash if she was that offended (the game, too).  And she's ignorant as to how our brains make patterns from nothing because it's how we perceive our surroundings, when we ony really "see" a small fraction of what we perceive.  It's obvious that she'd rather be outraged and offended than learn from this situation, which is my major issue with her actions.

However, it's worth noting that you can be anti-Islam, and not be a bigot or paranoid.

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Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

"GP: So, is this a case of anti-Islamic paranoia or subtle indoctrination of America's youth? What do you think, GP readers?"

 

Objection your Honor. Leading.

 

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Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

There have always been motherf*ckers, there will always be motherf*ckers, but what we can't do is let them control our motherf*cking lives. -John Oliver, December 1st, 2008

There have always been motherf*ckers, there will always be motherf*ckers, but what we can't do is let them control our motherf*cking lives. -John Oliver, December 1st, 2008

Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

Dear Stupid Soccer mom: 

You are hearing only what you want to hear. Stop being paranoid and let your kids have dangerous toys already. If natural selection is as great as I hear it is, at least you won't have to worry about your kids anymore

 

Love, DCoW

Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

A woman like this doesn't seem like the type who'd buy into a myth like "natural selection."  Come on man, that sounds dangerously close to "science."

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Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

Either way, she's stupid. I mean, anyone who tries to get entertainment banned over bullshit like religion is stupid. I mean, look at Jack, and I'm sure I don't need to tell you about him.

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Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

"anti-Islamic paranoia" ??? It cant be paranoia because that'd mean you are afraid of something for no reason.

Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

Oh MY GOD!!!(not to be confused with your god or their god, if you do you will go to hell...wait do I believe in hell? ah whatever...)

This is the Islamic terror invasion that President Bush warned us about for 8 years... We went to Iraq so that these things wouldn't happen hear... (Though the reasons changed so much that I can't be certain...) Now look what you ultra liberals did!!! Only a few days since your secret muslim president (or is he a communist I get these things confused, hmm is there anyone that watches fox news to tell me the current nick name for the president?) takes power and the invasion comes... we are all going to die, aa la ah(just random screams not meant to be anything else). great just great...

 

/obviously not being serious here...

 

 

Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

"This is the Islamic terror invasion that President Bush warned us about for 8 years... We went to Iraq so that these things wouldn't happen hear... (Though the reasons changed so much that I can't be certain...) Now look what you ultra liberals did!!! Only a few days since your secret muslim president (or is he a communist I get these things confused, hmm is there anyone that watches fox news to tell me the current nick name for the president?) takes power and the invasion comes... we are all going to die, aa la ah(just random screams not meant to be anything else). great just great..."

 

Of course, there hasn't been another attack on American soil since 9/11/01 thanks to President Bush (and no thanks to the liberals, Democrat Party, and Drive-By media who tried to do everything in their power to undermine the war effort from the beginning).  Of course, now that we have a president of highly questionable affiliations and origins who is willing to sit across the bargaining table with mad dictators like Ahmadinejad and Chavez, I guess we're all supposed to feel safe now. 

Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

It's not because of, it's in spite of Bush's action that we haven't had another attack on US soil, the bombing and the loss of civilian life and the torture are used by the terrorists to recrut new suicide bombers.  Bush is like a guy that drives by a dry forest and flicks a lit ciggarette into it then later says that it was because of the ciggarette flicking the the forest didn't burn down, when really it was in spite of his actions that the forest didn't burn down

There have always been motherf*ckers, there will always be motherf*ckers, but what we can't do is let them control our motherf*cking lives. -John Oliver, December 1st, 2008

There have always been motherf*ckers, there will always be motherf*ckers, but what we can't do is let them control our motherf*cking lives. -John Oliver, December 1st, 2008

Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

There have been thousands of attacks on americans since 9/11... and Iraq war made the problem many times greater than it was...

I am not against war, I am against wars for oil...when alteranatives can easily be developed and implemented with similar monetary investments... so I am against pointless wars...

Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

BWA HA HA HA HA HAAAAAA.. Oh I love it. Georgie georgie georgie. You have birthed upon us an entire generation of ultraparanoid fundamentalists afraid of a religion thats basically a cousin of the same one most of these yokels follow. I am surprised to see that this wasn't from Fox News.. Wait, I am a dirty Canadian; IS IT?

 

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Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

Fox News is a cable news channel, seen nationally.  This appears to be a local TV news operation.  Local TV is often a dump of bad, poorly sourced information designed to drum up viewers.  "Full story at 11!"

Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

All I heard was, "Min nom ninna nai".  The game is clearly anti-ninna.

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Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

This "reporter," Jessica Hayes, seems to have displayed her email address (jhayes@wthitv.com) at about 37 seconds into the video. She's practicaly asking to be corrected.

Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

It's almost impossible to pass a day in the western world without having some form of christian propaganda shoved in your face... what's the big deal?

-- Olly

-- Olly

Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

It's almost impossible to pass a day in the western world without having some form of christian propaganda shoved in your face... what's the big deal?

-- Olly

Well, if you don't like it, then why don't you get out of the western part of the world?  Christianity was here long before you were. 


Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

Technically you are wrong....the native american religions were here LONG before christians were on this side of the world.

Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

You do know that Christianity is not America's official religion?  We have no official religion.  America is officially atheist.

Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

What relavence has your response got to do with the point I'm making; you sound like a child.

-- Olly

-- Olly

Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

What Christian propaganda?  No one in the video mentions anyone being a Christian.  Just curious.


Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

Not specifically in that video no - but it's rife with hypocrisy

My point is that Jebus & God are all through the media, be it games, the news, movies, books, presidential speeches... but the I-bomb in dropped in some random video game and it's breaking news.

-- Olly

-- Olly

Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

Wow.  The "I-bomb."  As a Muslim, let me be the first to say that I find that absolutely hilarious. xD

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Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

Totally agree with you there.  If I had a dime for every time that somebody shoved God and Christ in my face, I'd be a rich man.

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Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

This woman is indeed crazy. I bet she's one that has one of those imaginary "god" friends in her head that gives her divine advice.

Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

I'm going with "anti-Islamist paranoia."  Kinda like when they were claiming Obama was a Muslim as a smear campaign, and even his supporters could only say, "No he's not."  The correct response was, "Why would that matter, why would that be a negative?"

Islam and Muslims = bad.  Apparently.  Fear the differences!

Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

I'm going with "anti-Islamist paranoia."  Kinda like when they were claiming Obama was a Muslim as a smear campaign, and even his supporters could only say, "No he's not."  The correct response was, "Why would that matter, why would that be a negative?"

Um, because a significant number of them throughout parts of the world believe that if you're not a Muslim, you're an Infidel and therefore you must either be converted or killed.  (And, yes, that includes you do-gooder "tolerant" leftists!)

 

"Islam and Muslims = bad.  Apparently.  Fear the differences!"

 

Except on this message board, it's "America and Christianity = bad".

Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

Um, because a significant number of them throughout parts of the world believe that if you're not a Muslim, you're an Infidel and therefore you must either be converted or killed.  (And, yes, that includes you do-gooder "tolerant" leftists!)

Except on this message board, it's "America and Christianity = bad".

So the logical response it to troll, because this accomplishes so much. Your response to why Obama being a Muslim matters doesn't even make sense. Kid, you're so concerned about taking pot shots at liberals/left/Democrats/etc, that your posts are mostly nonsense at this point.

 

As for this woman, I saw of video clip of the doll speaking a while back and the sound quality of the toy was so poor, you could barely make out "mama." Poor kid is going to be banned from owning any toy that makes noise in that household soon enough.

Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

Once upon a time it was(and it seems some want to return to those times):

Um, because a significant number of them throughout parts of the world believe that if you're not a Christian, you're an Infidel and therefore you must either be converted or killed.


Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

Is there a particular reason you're such an ass to those that don't assume all muslims are terrorists?

Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

There have always been motherf*ckers, there will always be motherf*ckers, but what we can't do is let them control our motherf*cking lives. -John Oliver, December 1st, 2008

There have always been motherf*ckers, there will always be motherf*ckers, but what we can't do is let them control our motherf*cking lives. -John Oliver, December 1st, 2008

Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

A lot of people still thin he's a Muslim, and chances are that's not gonna change

There have always been motherf*ckers, there will always be motherf*ckers, but what we can't do is let them control our motherf*cking lives. -John Oliver, December 1st, 2008

There have always been motherf*ckers, there will always be motherf*ckers, but what we can't do is let them control our motherf*cking lives. -John Oliver, December 1st, 2008

Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

A look at the bible and the koran would show how completely different Islam and Christianity are.  But most people like to stay in there world of ignorance and recite what others say without fact checking, kind of like this newsclip.  But that's for another time.

Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

I would say less 'differnt' and more 'superset/subset'.  Islam is a branch of Christianity (kinda like Mormonism only more so) that accepts both the Christian and Jewish texts as cannon.

Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

Er...not exactly.  Islam, like Christianity and Judaism, is an Abrahamic religion.  The similarities exist because all three religions come from the same place.  Islam isn't a subset of Christianity; Muhammad wasn't a Christian who started his own faction. xD

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Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

Things tend to get a bit murkey when one tries to pull apart the tangled roots of various faiths.

In Islam's case, as I understood it you had (local faiths) + (influence of Christian Monks) + (new stuff from Muhammad).  So Christianity formed one of the roots.  While in theory Islam claims to go back to the root Abrahamic piece and rebuild from there in practice they built off a snapshot of current Chrisitian faith and modified from there.

Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

Quoth the Holy Quran (3:45):

Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! Allah gives you glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah; "He shall speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. And he shall be (of the company) of the righteous." She said: "O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man has touched me?" He said: "Even so: Allah creates what He wills: when He has decreed a Plan, He but says to it, 'Be,' and it is! And Allah will teach him the Book and Wisdom, the Torah and the Gospel, and (appoint him) a Messenger to the Children of Israel"

Yep, totally different!

Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

so it's just coincidence that the same single bitch in the whole world found two electronics that preach Islam subversively?

i think it's more likely that she's a fucking loon.

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Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

Obvious anti-Islam paranoia. Pathetic and mentally challenged.

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Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

Looks like the argument of this group can be reduced to 'Islam == Shariah == Child marraige == material risk for girls'

So if their daughters hear 'islam is the light' they will up and get themselves an arranged marriage to some middle aged polygamist.  And at that point we get into 'why take the risk?' territory.

 

 

Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

First off, Go Indiana!

Second, what a stretch.

That's all I've got.

Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

I like the comment "This game is rated E for everyone, which means it's supposed to be suitable for all ages."

...does that mean you're equating a comment about Islam with swearing, porn, and violence?

I freaking hate ignorant people.

 

 

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Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

I think it is more of Islam-phobia. Like how we still have many people today with Videogame-phobia. I feel sorry for the Islamic people who are honest but have their belief caught in the cross fire of mainstreem media persucution so many times since that horrible day. I feel for them.
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Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

I remember playing Mortal Kombat and hearing Raiden's scream as he "supermanned" himself towards the opponent. Me and my friends all hear different things. One thought he helled "Raiden bubbly!", I thought he said "Your mother is from LA"...and other absurd things.

This would be an example of hearing gibberish and placing your own paranoid thoughts into it...and hearing what you want to hear. Sadly I see Fox jumping all over this one for the next week.

Actually to me it sounded like "Is the ham on the right" :)

Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

It always sounded to me like he shouted "Pass the pepper, please!"

Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

I don't see what the big deal is.  It doesn't sound like "Islam is the light" unless you really want it to, and... well... even if it did sound like that particular phrase, so what?  I'm not a big fan of religious indoctrination, particularly of the sneaky variety, but it wouldn't be enough to change the rating.  

Besides, it's just Islam -- a very large, mainstream religion that is practiced by millions of peaceful, law-abiding people all over the world.  It's not like it's some crazy cult.  Admittedly I still haven't started reading the free Quran that I picked up last week -- the Muslim Students' Club at my university was handing them out -- but from what I know of it, it's an awful lot like the bible but with some extra stuff tacked on and a few bits reintepreted, kinda like what Christians did to Judaism.

Re: Indiana Mom: "Islam is the Light" Message in Child's

Well said. I'm also against religious indoctrination, in fact I'm against indoctrination of any kind.

People should not force their views on others. They should be more open to how others view things, and not condemn them unless what they plan to do with their views threatens to either endanger or indoctrinate other people.

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