Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

January 30, 2009 -

It appears that investigators in Portland, Oregon are not focusing on rampage shooter Erik Ayala's fondness for violent video games.

The Portland Mercury spoke with Detective Mark Slater of Portland P.D., who commented on reports that linked linked the 24-year-old Ayala to Left 4 Dead and Resistance: Fall of Man:

[Local newspaper] The Oregonian prompted controversy on Monday, January 26, when it reported that "one of the things that bought Ayala joy" was playing violent videogames. Slater said a copy of the videogame Grand Theft Auto III was found at Ayala's apartment, but said police were not pursuing a link between videogames and the shooting.

"There were a lot of videogames in the apartment," said Slater. "Of a wide variety of the kind you might find in any 24-year-old's apartment."

In regard to the video game angle, GamePolitics has learned that anti-game violence activist Jack Thompson unsuccessfully attempted to involve himself in the Ayala case. Thompson forwarded GP a copy of a January 26th e-mail in which the disbarred attorney complained to Portland Police Chief Rosie Sizer that detectives weren't acting on his theory that video games prompted the rampage:

Dear Chief Sizer:

I have information that would be useful to establish further the apparent causal link between the violent video game play of alleged killer Ayala and the recent incident at the teen club.

Some detective in the Bureau with whom I spoke has been compromised by the video game industry, and he was anticipating my call.

I think your Bureau and you put public safety ahead of the pro-video game bias and gaming activities of this detective.

Please have some responsible detective contact me on this, as these incidents tied to games are popping up all over the place.  Thanks.

As GamePolitics has documented over the years, Thompson characteristically makes contact with law enforcement personnel in the wake of shooting rampages to suggest that violent video games played a role.

Those contacts between Thompson and law enforcement officials have at times become contentious.

In 2007, for example, Thompson sued the Omaha Police Department for information concerning a troubled 18-year-old who opened fire at a local mall. Last year, Thompson threatened to sue the Public Safety Department of Northern Illinois University following a campus shooting spree committed by a 27-year-old man with a history of mental health problems. In both cases, the disbarred attorney sought evidence of video game play on the part of the shooters.

GP: Thanks to GP reader Cabel Sasser for the link to the Mercury story!


Comments

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

Hmm.  Anyone want to contact the Florida BAR about that pesky not impersonating a lawyer thing?

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Re: NY Bill Might Keep Nasty Games in a Locked Container

Dunno. that's why I asked.  I'm not Jack.  I'm actually a lawyer.

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Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

This is not the least bit surprising.  The police typically ignore the video game connection, because they believe it exonerates the perp.  It's the same mentality that leads police to plant guns.

What a surprise that he had GTA in his possession.  I shall be contacting the families of the victims to tell them of the cause of action they now have against Take-Two.

On the truth side of the ledger, we now have the Ohio Judge in the Petric case who believes video games had everything to do with the perp's shooting of his parents.  He came to that conclusion with no input from me.

Finally, the police detective with whom I spoke said that someone connected with the video game industry contacted him about me before I ever contacted them.  The industry should be afraid.  Very afraid.  Jack Thompson

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

i bet that if we asked the Police if they had anyone from the Games Industry, they would say,

"No we don't have anyone from the Games Industry talk to us, but we did have one crazy man claiming to be a lawyer come to us and claming that he would sue us if we did not take up his opinions."

So in conclusion, there is a thing called Videogame Addiction, but it is not with the gamers, it is with the people who are addicted to blaming videogames as a scapegoat to the bad things in society.

TBoneTony

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

 Lol, so true.

Basically the Truth

It's good to see the police have their priorities straight.

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

I like to think of JT as so deluded and thick headed that he doesn't understand what's going on, no matter how much we try to clue him into reality.

 

FBI man 1: [frustrated] Argh... Now when I say "Hello Mr. Thompson" and press down on your foot, you smile and nod.
Homer: No problem.
[stepping hard on Homer's foot]
FBI man 1: Hello, Mr. Thompson.
[Homer stares blankly again for a few seconds]
Homer: [whispering to the FBI man next to him] I think he's talking to you.

 

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

I think that Jack-ass Thompson is too obsessed with blaiming Videogames for shootings, he needs to get a life and do something else that benifits the community, like, being nice to people both online and offline.
TBoneTony

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

Why does Jack Thompson don't get that he is wrong, not the rest of the world? It's like everyone is after him.

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

so it was jacky boy all along...kinda sad really,so how many names are we at now? Did we ever break the 52 or something during the old gp days

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

It was over 50 just on livejournal.  It's got to be up around a hundred by now.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

damn over 50 on livejournal??? wow i forgot about all that..Damn those were good times

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

I'm glad the local police are not buying Thompson's crap.

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

Hey Jack, hows living off of your wife going for you?

You must feel like a real man now.

 

Yes, I am a liberal. I also believe in a strong military, less government, and the right to bear arms. ~ Me

Yes, I am a liberal. I also believe in a strong military, less government, and the right to bear arms. 

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

Actually if i recall, he ended up getting a job for some conservative newsite since his disbarment... no idea which one

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

Human Events.

He hasn't written anything in over a month but he says he's still writing for the site.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

Woudln't be surprised if he got canned for threatening readers, and keeps saying he writes there

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

JT: "The sky is falling! The sky is falling!"

Everyone: "No, it's not."

JT: "You're pro sky falling biased!"

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

Thank god that the police have more common sense then Jack Thompson... wait, he lacks that.

... and I thought I grounded him from the internet?! That kid, thinking he's all powerful because he can talk big, claim to know people and quote things without any sort of back up. Just you wait until I get home, mister! You won't be doing any of those little crusades of yours with your little action figures. 

NO. I don't want to hear it, and I'm taking away that action figure where you taped Dennis' face on it with hearts around it! No, don't want to hear it! No more Gamepolitics for you, buster!

Amy Levandoski

Amy Levandoski

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

I was gonna say, how can they have more of what Thompson has absolutely none of?

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

By definition, anyone would have more the JT since he has none.

Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

Hooray, you're back to the parent thing! That is always funny.

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Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

I think the funniest thing about you Jack Thompson isn't the fact that you've so blindly followed a cause while creating the most prolific prototypical example of self-serving bias ever. What's the most entertaining aspect of you is when I try to share the hliarity I get from you with my other friends who do not surf GP, they alwasy respond with "who is Jack Thompson?". Seriously. Nobody knows who you are outside of GP and Jaablog. I've tried to find someone who actually knows who you are, but I've yet to find a single person...

These are college educated people Mr. Thompson. They are future of our great nation, video gamers and nonvideogamers alike, and they can not identify you. 

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

Old video but this story kinda reminds me of it. But on the serious side of things. I am not a religious person so I don't really do the praying thing but my well wishes to the familes who have lost someone.

http://e3.g4tv.com/e32008/videos/27021/Jack_Thompson_Was_Right.html

Jack Thompson.

As of yet again you have been proven wrong. How many more times Jack? Your inability to look at the facts and understand who is resposnible is downright disgusting and one of the major reasons you were disbarred.

I honest to god recomend that you meet with theripist because your obesseion with taking video games seems to have consumed your life. I also recommend that you look more closer at the articles that Dennis posts on here. This man enjoyed video games but they weren't his motivation for killing people.

If anything Thompson, video games have become a medium for people to release anger and emotion as it has for me. I would rather take my anger out on a game because I don't have to worry about causing problems for others nor would there be consequnces. That is an honest to dammed fact and you should know better.

You're just  digging a hole for youself Jack. Climb out of it while you still have a chance.

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

In truth, it's really a plot by aliens to invade the Earth using the power of Video Games to control the Human race. That's why Thompson keeps writing all those letters to Jack Harkness, he's hoping Torchwood will intervene ;)

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

Sounds like he needs to see the Doctor doesn't it?

Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

Personally, I would not be surprised if some concerned reader of game news sites called the police department to forwarn them of John Bruce and his need to inject himself and his agenda into every violent crime.

So I can beleive that, but not that the officer was somehow bribed by the games industry.

E. Zachary Knight
Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA
http://www.theeca.com/chapters_oklahoma

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

Maybe it was his roommate.

Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Hornets, Jack Thompson can geaux chase a chupacabra.

Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Pelicans. Solidarity for the Saints = No retreat, no surrender. 2013 = Saints' revenge on the NFL. Even through the darkest days, this fire burns always.

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

Zach, how's your tin foil hat these days?  Nice pic on facebook.

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

How goes getting your license back?

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

BRRRRRRING RRRRRING

"Um hello?"

"Pot, this is your friend Kettle calling."

"Yes Kettle?"

"Mate, I think you are black!"

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So Jack, if EZK has a Tin Foil hat...yours must be, by now, a tin foil replica of the 1815 General's Hat Napoleon wore at Waterloo?

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

Compared to what? The tin-foil helmet you wear with the 0-16 Detroit Lions's logo on it?

Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Hornets, Jack Thompson can geaux chase a chupacabra.

Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Pelicans. Solidarity for the Saints = No retreat, no surrender. 2013 = Saints' revenge on the NFL. Even through the darkest days, this fire burns always.

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

Way to rip-off the pic I posted for your lame joke, fool.  Just for that, I'm posting a recent pic of you for all to enjoy.

http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/jackthompson.jpg

 

 

Tea and cake or death! Tea and cake or death! Little Red Cook-book! Little Red Cook-book!

Tea and cake or death! Tea and cake or death! Little Red Cook-book! Little Red Cook-book!

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

That straightjacket makes him look like a wanna-be harry houdini with rabies.

Magic Taco

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

You'd know a lot about tin foil hats, what with all your conspiracy theories, Mr. Thompson.

Grow up and get a life.

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

His tin foil hat is far more fashionable than your "One Tin Soldier" suit of aluminum foil armor with the upside down cross on the chestplate.

"Go ahead and hate your neighbor,

go ahead and cheat a friend.

Do it in the name of Heaven,

Jack Thompson'll justify it in the end."

Nightwng2000

NW2K Software

Nightwng2000 has also updated his MySpace page: http://www.myspace.com/nightwing2000 Nightwng2000 is now admin to the group "Parents For Education, Not Legislation" on MySpace as http://groups.myspace.com/pfenl

Nightwng2000 NW2K Software http://www.facebook.com/nightwing2000 Nightwng2000 is now admin to the group "Parents For Education, Not Legislation" on MySpace as http://groups.myspace.com/pfenl

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

"Go ahead and hate your neighbor,

go ahead and cheat a friend.

Do it in the name of Heaven,

Jack Thompson'll justify it in the end."

... LOL... I'm stealing this if i can make it fit in my sig

"Go ahead and hate your neighbor, go ahead and cheat a friend. Do it in the name of Heaven, Jack Thompson'll justify it in the end." - nightwng2000

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

Woot it worked!

"Go ahead and hate your neighbor, go ahead and cheat a friend. Do it in the name of Heaven, Jack Thompson'll justify it in the end." - nightwng2000

"Go ahead and hate your neighbor, go ahead and cheat a friend. Do it in the name of Heaven, Jack Thompson'll justify it in the end." - nightwng2000

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

:: Bows gracefully. ::

I'm honored.  :)

At some point, I may overtake my lazy tendancies and actually do the entire song.  :)

Nightwng2000

NW2K Software

Nightwng2000 has also updated his MySpace page: http://www.myspace.com/nightwing2000 Nightwng2000 is now admin to the group "Parents For Education, Not Legislation" on MySpace as http://groups.myspace.com/pfenl

Nightwng2000 NW2K Software http://www.facebook.com/nightwing2000 Nightwng2000 is now admin to the group "Parents For Education, Not Legislation" on MySpace as http://groups.myspace.com/pfenl

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

You still haven't accepted my Friend Request. I can't believe you don't love me anymore Pumkin.

E. Zachary Knight
Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA
http://www.theeca.com/chapters_oklahoma

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

Hey, he will come out of the closet when he is read.

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Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

And until then, as Brodie from Mallrats would say, "Typical closet-case self-loather. Can't be comfortable with his own sexuality."

Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Hornets, Jack Thompson can geaux chase a chupacabra.

Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Pelicans. Solidarity for the Saints = No retreat, no surrender. 2013 = Saints' revenge on the NFL. Even through the darkest days, this fire burns always.

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

And Shadow Darkman laughed again.

Good show, EZK.

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"A Chrono Trigger is anything that unleashes its will or desire to change history!" -Gaspar

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

LOL!!!!!

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

LOLWUT?

The cynical side of videogames (spanish only): http://thelostlevel.blogspot.com/ My DeviantArt Page (aka DeviantCensorship): http://www.darkknightstrikes.deviantart.com/

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Sortableturnip's Law: As an online discussion of video game violence grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Jack Thompson approaches 1

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

Jack, how's that whole disbarrment going for you?  I see you have more time on your hands to insult other people now...

Sortableturnip's Law: As an online discussion of video game violence grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Jack Thompson approaches 1

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

Obviously, not as fabulous or bigger as yours. Yours can carry a complete meal... crazy old man.

The cynical side of videogames (spanish only): http://thelostlevel.blogspot.com/ My DeviantArt Page (aka DeviantCensorship): http://www.darkknightstrikes.deviantart.com/

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

Took the words right from my mouth.

E. Zachary Knight
Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA
http://www.theeca.com/chapters_oklahoma

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

To be honest I'm a tad worried, EZK. Jack's NPD is slowly getting worse, sooner or later something negative is going to happen to him that will cause him to go Postal, and that actually puts everyone he hates at risk, including you. Especially you, because apparently he's been stalking you so much he probably knows exactly where you live.

Re: Police Dismiss Video Game Link in Portland Shooting Rampage

So it comes to digging up things that werent funny the first time.

But then, that's all you have left. No point, no evidence, only paranoia and your own shattered, pointless agenda.

 

You can't fight change Jack, you can scream and bawl and cry and accuse anyone of anything you so desire, but change will still happen, and you will fall further and further behind, because you are afraid of trying to catch up. You look at the past as though it were something to yearn for, and yet, for all that yearning, you've never once thought of learning from it. You're old Jack, and screaming about it changes nothing, and you're not old because your body is old, that happens to all of us, you are old because you have allowed your mind to grow old, and that was a choice you made.

Maybe it's too late for you to turn back now, but I like to believe that there is always a choice, just because the world is too complex for you to understand doesn't mean you should wind back time to the point where you can understand it, no-one can understand everything, never could, but the moment you stop growing up and start growing old, then you're in trouble, I can only hope that the readers of this forum see this and realise that, then, at least, in some small way, you have helped the children, by encouraging them never to become what you have allowed yourself to become.

 
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