UK Politico Wants Games to Spread News About Climate Change

February 6, 2009 -

British political figure Lord Puttnam wants people to know about global warming, and he wants video games to help teach them.

As reported by Edge Online, Puttnam, who is also a film producer, issued a press release promoting the nexus of games and climate change education:

Serious games based upon real-life geography should be vital tools in our fight against climate change. Educating people about the impact of prolonged changes to our climate in an accessible way is the best catalyst for action I know.‭

Lord Puttnam previously chaired‭ ‬the Joint Parliamentary Committee on the Draft Climate Change Bill and is the founding Chair‭ ‬of the National Endowment for Science,‭ ‬Technology and the Arts.

He also delivered the closing keynote at last September's Handheld Learning 2008 conference in London.


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Re: UK Politico Wants Games to Spread News About Climate ...

Why is it, that people only talk about global warming when it's supposed to be getting warmer outside, no one said a peep about global warming all winter, if it was like 70 degrees in Decemeber, then I would be worried. Some people call it global warming, I call it summer.

Re: UK Politico Wants Games to Spread News About Climate ...

im not too sure to say on this point but as history go we humans can effect the enviorment as evident by the dust bowl when the framing destored the roots that keep the soil in the ground.  just becuse there people that speak out agaist goble warming does not change the fact if we are poluting we should try to get clean energy before we do effect the world like the united states did in the dust bowl.

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Re: UK Politico Wants Games to Spread News About Climate Change

What’s the core argument here? WE are effecting the environment with sloppy and ineffiecnt technology.

 

Global warming might be lulzy but the truth is we can do something about our energy usages that will not only save energy but reduce what is spent on it.

And no I am not talking about hybrids and electric cars….. now that’s the ultimate lulz right there….

 


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Re: UK Politico Wants Games to Spread News About Climate Change

"Please insert politics and into every aspect of my life.  If I were to go an hour without hearing about climate change, I might completely forget about it.  Even though I hear about it everytime I listen to the news or turn on the tv, even though I already try to do my part to cut down on power consumption and pay attention to what companies I buy from.  If I wasn't preached to in a video game, the world might come to an end."

Re: UK Politico Wants Games to Spread News About Climate Change

"I already try to do my part to cut down on power consumption and pay attention to what companies I buy from."

Thanks. That's all anybody really wants you to do :)

Re: UK Politico Wants Games to Spread News About Climate ...

Thanks.  Somebody intelligent probably needs that power from the power grid anyway.

Re: UK Politico Wants Games to Spread News About Climate ...

Thanks, with the sixty bucks I'm saving every month on my hydro bill because I finally installed some weather stripping, I can buy twelve more games and stimulate the economy this year.

Now who's the smart one, eh? ;D

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Re: UK Politico Wants Games to Spread News About Climate ...

I dunno.  With the weather stripping I had installed YEARS ago, I save about 240 a month on heating during winter months (so like 6 months out of the year), meaning I gain an extra 240 to my 600 dollar a month budget for games.

I still think I'm winning there, chief.

Re: UK Politico Wants Games to Spread News About Climate Change

Yay, more people who think that an internet comment proves scientists wrong!

"I have yet to see enough scientific proof..."

"...is political manipulation of science at its best."

"...is load of 100% Grade-A Bullshit."

 

Wow, glad to see you guys all using your PHD's to thier finest. Where did you get them?

Re: UK Politico Wants Games to Spread News About Climate ...

He's actually correct.  There are many, many studies that disprove or dispute global warming, and, especially in America, they can't seem to get published.  Never mind that the ice on Mars (I think its Mars) is melting at the same rate as our ice caps, that there's a history of warming and cooling trends, and that this is the same evidence they tried to apply to 'Global Cooling' just a few decades ago, let's all buy into this shit together, shall we?

Re: UK Politico Wants Games to Spread News About Climate ...

They can't seem to get published? Maybe there's a reason?

No no, i'm sure it's just a conspiracy. The scientific community is against itself. That's the LOGICAL answer.

Re: UK Politico Wants Games to Spread News About Climate ...

For a little taste of what is being hidden, a list of 650 Scientists who havespoken out against global warming published by the Senate Evironment and Public Works Committee.

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&Content...

E. Zachary Knight
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Re: UK Politico Wants Games to Spread News About Climate ...

EZK. I can posts blog links too if you'd like. Your not going to sway me with them, and i'm not going to sway you with mine.

Consider this though. I did read a survey recently summarizing the oppinions of the scientific community (not just the scientists the media reports on, as many of them as they could find)

The groups most likely to believe that Climate Change wasn't caused by humans? Geologists (the ones most likely to get paid to help companies dig up coal) and meteorologists (the ones most likely to survey a local region only)

Go back to your link, and take a look at the credits behind those quotes again. I'm not saying it discounts the entire article, but you do have to consider the source.

The people believing the world is flat believe the have pretty hard scientific evidence too.

EDIT: Forgot one point, gonna make it quick before i loose edit rights. There are some quotes in there from qualified atmospheric scientists. I'd love to talk to them.

Re: UK Politico Wants Games to Spread News About Climate ...

So 650 scientists go against the popular belief that global warming exists and is caused by man and you dismiss them as being bribed or influenced in some way? Either that or not "looking at the big picture"

And you call us ignorant.

Next it is not just a "blog post" It is a reporting from a government organization on the desenting views of scientists attending a climate change conference. It is an actually record of their reasoning behind their desenting views. How you can dismiss that as just a "blog post" is beyond me.

I suggest you take a more careful reading of that report and many more like them. I don't have time to dig them all up as they don't make the headlines like those who cry out "the world is melting" every other day.

I would also like to point out that much like John Bruce, as soon as someone brings in evidence that your flimsy view could actual be wrong, you go into defensive mode and start lashing out and crying bribery. That is the sign of true ignorance.

E. Zachary Knight
Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA
http://www.theeca.com/chapters_oklahoma

Re: UK Politico Wants Games to Spread News About Climate ...

Great job. You've managed to completely side step my disclaimer, " I'm not saying it discounts the entire article" and replace it with "and you dismiss them as being bribed or influenced in some way?"

Also, comparing me to Jack Thompson completely alienates me, and shows a lack of respect for anything i could further say. I refuse to speak to you any further.

Re: UK Politico Wants Games to Spread News About Climate ...

What's really funny to me is that you fail to notice that the people and organizations pushing it are the ones that have the most to gain; Al Gore, for example, who's movie is full of more lies and inconsistency than a Michael Moore film (and that's saying a lot), has millions of dollars invested in companies that are coming up with 'solutions' to a non-existant problem. 

Re: UK Politico Wants Games to Spread News About Climate ...

You seem completely unwilling to listen to the facts, so I'll be brief and won't waste either of our time with any responses beyond this one.

First, the default scientific position is skepticism. This is, perhaps, the most important thing to consider in the entire AGW debacle. Most of the scientists pushing AGW are out there trying to force facts to fit an agenda - in some cases manipulating or falsifying evidence when it suits them.

The only thing that has *ever* shown AGW to be a serious threat are computer climate models, which any legitimate scientist will tell you are notoriously unreliable at predicting any long term changes.

You seem to believe that we are implying it's a conspiracy of sorts. Not really. I suspect there are a myriad of reasons in both the political and scientific worlds ranging from ignorance to greed. Sadly, scientists that have spoken out against AGW have lost tenures, grants, even been blackballed from the scientific community. That's not science, it's political persecution.

On a final note, it's important to mention that the earth goes through cycles - and in this case, I'm not referring to the minor ups and downs that the current hand-wringing is about. Geological records show that the Earth goes through about a 10,000-12,000 year warm period followed by a 100,000 year ice age. (With a slowly increasing amount of time spent in ice ages). This is all without human intervention. Bear in mind that, in the next 1,000-2,000 years, we will be facing another 100,000 year ice age.

Our focus shouldn't be on preventing global warming, we should be looking for ways to *cause* it. I suspect that in several hundred years, when our descendents are faced with the onset of a new ice age - and people finally realize how difficult it is to actually affect the earth's climate, even when trying - that there will be a lot of disgust with 20th and 21st century politics.

Re: UK Politico Wants Games to Spread News About Climate ...

Sorry to offend you. I just found your imediate dismissal of the posted article insulting. The disclaimer did very little to negate the overall insulting dismissal of what I provided.

I did not replace your disclaimer either. You said it yourself:

The groups most likely to believe that Climate Change wasn't caused by humans? Geologists (the ones most likely to get paid to help companies dig up coal) and meteorologists (the ones most likely to survey a local region only)

I merely summarized that view.

AS for the John Bruce comparison, sure that was harsh, but you cannot deny the similarities. Every time someone tells him they play violent games and have never acted violently, they are statistically insignificant. Any time a study or research comes out that he cannot manipulate to support his agenda, it was funded and influenced by the video game industry.

Edit: So here, the meteorologists are your "Statisically insignificant" group of scientists and your geologists are your funded and influenced by the evil atmosphere destroying companies.

E. Zachary Knight
Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA
http://www.theeca.com/chapters_oklahoma

Re: UK Politico Wants Games to Spread News About Climate ...

ahh damnit, i had a reply typed out and then i typed out something on the shoutbox. I use youtube all the time and that woulnd't have refreshed the page there.

I dont have time to retype it right now.

Re: UK Politico Wants Games to Spread News About Climate Change

Anthropological Global Warming is political manipulation of science at its best.

This is the reason politics should never get into bed with science.

Re: UK Politico Wants Games to Spread News About Climate Change

So they want a game that teaches people about the transition from Winter to Summer?

E. Zachary Knight
Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA
http://www.theeca.com/chapters_oklahoma

Re:UK Politico Wants Games to Spread News About "Climate Change"

Unforunately for him, "Climate change"/"Global Warming" is load of 100% Grade-A Bullshit.

The fact that it snowed in New Orleans and Baton Rouge in December, and that Britain is in its coldest winter in 30 years proves it.

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Re:UK Politico Wants Games to Spread News About "Climate Change"

This is exactly the scenario to expect from global warming.  When ice melts at the poles you get bigger and wider-ranging snowfall in the winter due to the same process that causes lake effect snow in the north-east.  When the arctic is covered in snow, it prevents water molecules from entering the atmosphere, but with an open arctic ocean, the result will be a lot more snowfall and colder winters.

But it doesn't matter anyway - it's probably far too late to do anything now.  Judging by recent satellite images of the arctic, we're about five years away from the arctic ocean being fully ice-free.  Then we'll see some REAL catastrophic blizzards in Canada and the northern states.

So by all means keep your head in the sand.

Re:UK Politico Wants Games to Spread News About "Climate Change"

http://icecap.us

There is little scientific basis for the article’s assertion that “the ice-caps are melting fast”. There has been some decline in sea-ice extent in the Arctic, but this decline is well within natural climate variability and cannot be attributed to anthropogenic “global warming”, because the mere fact of warming (which, in any event, has not occurred for 13 years) tells us nothing of the cause of the warming.

In the Antarctic, however, sea-ice extent has recently reached a record high, and the current accumulation of land-ice at the South Pole is 8850 feet deep, increasing annually.

Maybe you're the one who should pull your head out of the sand.

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Re: UK Politico Wants Games to Spread News About Climate ...

Sadly, the usual argument against very complex games that need to rely on large amounts of stats and figures is that the processing power just isn't there.

Just saying "we pollute the air, the world gets hotter" isn't realistic.

Heck, I'd like to see an ultra-sophisticated, updated version of Activision's Alter Ego, but to reach the complexity that I desire, it would take several million variables that span the surrounding world, the character, the NPC's, genetic codes, events, etc.  The Sims just doesn't cut it.

And the processing power for an updated, close to realistic, let alone realistic, updated Life & Death would take more than the most current computers can provide as well.

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Re: UK Politico Wants Games to Spread News About Climate ...

And I want ten million dollars, a dark blue '09 Porsche Turbo, a huge house fully paid for with the latest solar and wind power technology, and the economy to turn around.  The only news that needs to be spread is done by the weather automatically if it so in fact is a problem.

I have yet to see enough scientific proof of global warming or cooling, though a change in climate is rather self evident, BUT it has not gone outside the range of weather we get on typical cycles, and humans have yet to be proven to be the definitive cause.

Get Obama to quit wasting time with a damn stimulas packages and start boosting research to create better solar and wind technology and AI driven cars.

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Re: UK Politico Wants Games to Spread News About Climate ...

It's probably way too late to do much about it anyway.  According to research done by M. Ewing and W. L. Donn we're probably well beyond the point at which the climate change can be moderated by changes in how much we pollute.  The real issue is, how fast are we going into the next ice age.  With the recent massive changes in the north polar ice (which I guess have escaped your attention) it's looking like winters in the northern hemisphere are going to get much colder and much snowier much faster due to the effect of the open water in the arctic which will potentially deposit huge amounts of snow on northern Europe and northern North America during the winters.

Re: UK Politico Wants Games to Spread News About Climate ...

There have been the same type of changes in Mar's polar caps.  So the question is, why is Mars doing the same thing?

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