British MP Keith Vaz Criticizes Japanese Rape Game's Availability on Amazon

Oh ok I stumbled onto some of that myself (didn't know what it was called) and it really truly disgusted me. It once again proved to me that you can take two good things and mix them together to create something incredibly awful (although peanut butter and tuna all ready did that a long time ago).

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Debates are like merry go rounds. Two people take their positions then they go through the same points over and over and over again. Then when it's over they have the same positions they started in.

First, I never said anyone was being harmed or that I had any sort of problem with the material; I rather enjoy rape porn myself. I was merely objecting to someone improperly representing how common such material is.

On to the main point of my response: You beg to differ because you are an ignorant fucktard (that's the proper, scientific term, by the way). Having seen hundreds of animes (sorry to bring out the e-penis), I think I can safely conclude that rape is a pretty fucking rare thing in non-pornographic anime. I can't think of a single anime that's aired in the last few seasons that's had rape as a major or even minor plot point (though admittedly I didn't watch some all the way through because they're utter shit, but who cares about those?). And if you've just seen a dozen hentai anime, then you've seen a very, very tiny subset of what there is (and apparently a rather unrepresentative one), and aren't exactly in a position to be making judgments about the medium as a whole. Moreover, animated material is hardly representative of the world of drawn pornography in Japan, as it is comparatively more expensive than other media, and hence less common. More common are games (which are mostly more like CYOA books with porn and voice acting than like this one), and even more so, comics.

tl;dr ur a idort

"Games that center around grotesque murders, such as thrillkill and manhunt have no justification and no storyline."

Wrong on both counts.  Both games have a storyline (although Thrillkill's is about two sentences) and both are justified by the fact that someone wants to play them.  The recent GTA games, just so you know, have incredibly involved story lines.

"I don't think I need to go too far into detail on the affects of masturbation on the brain."

I wish you would.  I honestly don't know what you're getting at.

I don't agree with your "unattainable standard of beauty" argument.  Such standards are attainable by virtue of the fact that the actresses in live action porn films are real people.  Additionally, most porn actresses (from my understanding) are not beauty queens.  Plus, I think mainstream media (films, magazines, TV) does more to promote a difficult-to-obtain standard of good looks then porn does.

Also, your Pavlovian example doesn't work because there is no bell.  Rape isn't the bell; it's the food.  The dog was already salivating over the food.  He learned that a bell ring meant food was on the way.  At the end of the day, he still wasn't drooling over the bell.

If a gamer is playing Rapelay because he's aroused by the concept of rape, then he already has the association between rape and arousal.  It had nothing to do with the game.

Lastly, being aroused by a rape fantasy (and fantasy is all it is) doesn't mean that one's sense of right and wrong is overridden.

Andrew Eisen

>He said he was appalled not that the government or amazon should do anything about it.

>I will be raising this matter in Parliament and hope that action is taken to prevent the game from being sold.

/b

"It's available there" isn't necessarily an excuse that holds water in all cases of import, tho.  I've seen lists on The Smoking Gun of barred materials that aren't allowed to cross North American borders under any circumstances, for instance.  It's a grey zone in terms of Asian PSPs or region-free copies of GBA games, but there's definitely a point at which overly vulgar media (that is, "vulgar" through the lens of the local culture) is considered absolutely unacceptable by law.

Besides which, it's not a very good game. ;O

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