Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect Debacle Equates Obama Stimulus Plan with Rape Game

February 18, 2009 -

Just when you thought the RapeLay mini-scandal was over...

Kevin McCullough, the conservative blogger who in 2008 lit the fuse that would eventually detonate as pop psychologist Cooper Lawrence's misguided attack on Xbox 360 hit Mass Effect, is back.

In a piece for the conservative Townhall blog, McCullough draws similarities between the despicable RapeLay PC game and President Obama's just-signed stimulus package.

You can't make this stuff up. Here's what McCullough, who eventually backed off of his incorrect allegations against Mass Effect, wrote regarding RapeLay and the stimulus package:

This week Amazon.com after many complaints finally decided to ban a virtual reality game called "Rapelay." Defenders of the game say it's not real rape because it only occurs between computer animations. There are no genuine side effects. And it won't impact reality.

Sort of like what liberals sound like when it comes to our money. The money we work increasingly harder to earn. And with one uber-partisan vote they take away. Taken faster than the speed of light or at least in shorter than being allowed to read the legislation that does so.

In the game Rapelay, reviewers have stated that the player must first sexually assault a mother character and her two daughters before being allowed to then "pick" their next series of victims.

In the Congress of Washington DC liberals have seen to it that our mothers and daughters will have less money in the home budget working for their protection and welfare.

In the game Rapelay the reviews indicate that the rapist can even convince one of the animated computer characters that they like what's happening to them.

In Washington DC liberals in Congress sent their lapdog "Mr. President" out to the masses to do the same thing...

 

I've tried to be as tasteful as possible in explaining this comparison, and due to the passion of the natural man that was not an easy thing to do!
 

Class act, that Kevin McCullough...

Via: N'Gai Croal


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Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect ...

"When your product depicts something that is, quite frankly, an evil thing, it needs some sort of redeeming quality."

No it doesn't but that aside, if the game is fun to play, then there's your redeeming quality.  If you're asking what keeps it from being obscenity, the reason is because it fails the Miller Test.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect ...

From Wikipedia:

  • Whether the average person, applying contemporary community standards, would find that the work, taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest,
  • Whether the work depicts/describes, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct or excretory functions[2] specifically defined by applicable state law,
  • Whether the work, taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value. (This is also known as the (S)LAPS test- [Serious] Literary, Artistic, Political, Scientific.)

Please explain which point it fails.

Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect ...

From Wikipedia:

  • Whether the average person, applying contemporary community standards, would find that the work, taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest, 

  • Whether the work depicts/describes, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct or excretory functions[2]specifically defined by applicable state law,
  • Whether the work, taken as a whole, lacks serious literaryartisticpolitical or scientific value. (This is also known as the (S)LAPS test- [Serious] Literary, Artistic, Political, Scientific.)

Please explain which point it fails.

To be quite honest, it fails all three points as Wikipedia is NOT a credible source. Sorry, please try again.

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Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect ...

Didn't know this was a scholarly journal.

Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect ...

Does it have to be for people to know that the info there can be tampered with?

Last I checked common sense was applicable outside of school as well.

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Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect ...

Not at all.  But stating that information is wrong simply because of its source is just foolish.  I chose Wikipedia for the sake of expediency.

The Miller Test is readily available for people who wish to check whether the information provided is true.  If you don't like Wikipedia, then look elsewhere and confirm what I said.

Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect ...

Yeah, Wikipedia's not a credible source but it's description of the Miller Test is correct in this case.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/printer_friendly.pl?page=us/413/15...

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect ...

No problem.

1.  For most people, rape is not sexually appealing.  Plus, when taken as a whole the game does not solely appeal to the prurient interests of the player.  There is gameplay and story.

2.  I don't see how the image of two cartoons interacting can be patently offensive but I won't argue this one.

3.  This is the big one.  The game has artistic value.  Every video game does.  It's unavoidable.  Plus, there is a story in this game (albeit, not a very deep one) so there is also literary value.  And scientific value from a coding and engineering perspective.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect ...

1. The test doesn't ask if the average person finds it stimulating; it asks if the average person would find that the game "appeals to the prurient interest".  If it were your way, then scat porn could never be found obscene, and some guy in Florida would be out of trouble.

I'd recommend you read the Something Awful review of this game before you suggest it has gameplay and story; you'll find Zack Parsons' account enlightening.

2. The cartoons depict rape.  Depictions of rape tend to be offensive.  Ever seen Irreversible?  That was intentional.

3. I disagree with you on that point.  Not all games have artistic merit, just like not all films have artistic merit.  As to the story, it's paper-thin and could not be considered "serious" literary value.

Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect ...

"The test doesn't ask if the average person finds it stimulating; it asks if the average person would find that the game "appeals to the prurient interest"."

That's what prurient means and I don't think most people would find that a cartoon depiction of rape or a video of someone defecating on another would qualify as appealing to a prurient interest.  I'll have to ask a few legal guys I know, see if the Millar Test is using a broader definition of "prurient" then the one I'm aware of.  If it encompasses mere interest, then yeah, it could arguably pass the first point.

"I'd recommend you read the Something Awful review..."

I did.  I also read the game's website and watched all the gameplay videos.  Like it or not, there is a story here.  Although, as I said earlier, it's not very deep.  Basically, a guy is caught molesting girls on a subway and thrown in jail.  As it happens, his father is a political big shot and gets the charges dropped.  The young man then goes after the girls who got him arrested.  The game ends with him being killed, either hit by a train or stabbed to death.  Not only is there a story (again, not much of one) but there's also arguably a moral and political commentary (although, I'd classify it more of a plot device than anything else).

"The cartoons depict rape.  Depictions of rape tend to be offensive.  Ever seen Irreversible?  That was intentional."

Yep and I said as much in my last comment.  No, I haven't seen the entirety of Irreversible but I have seen the 8 minute rape scene from the film.  I don't find it offensive even without the context of the story.

"Not all games have artistic merit..."

I'm not inclined to agree.  Can you give me an example of a video game you feel has no artistic merit?

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect ...

That's what prurient means and I don't think most people would find that a cartoon depiction of rape or a video of someone defecating on another would qualify as appealing to a prurient interest.  I'll have to ask a few legal guys I know, see if the Millar Test is using a broader definition of "prurient" then the one I'm aware of.  If it encompasses mere interest, then yeah, it could arguably pass the first point.

OK.  Maybe I was unclear with the first prong.

The point isn't whether an average person finds that a work stimulates himself, it's whether the average person would agree that the purpose of that work is sexual stimulation.  Again, (don't) look at scat porn.  Stuff like Swap.avi is positively revolting to most people; however, the average person would likely say that the purpose of that film was some sort of titillation.

Next, a plot device doesn't make something a serious work of literature.  Otherwise, those little blurbs in Club magazine explaining why Suzie is in a diner and about to do stuff to Tommy would count as serious literature.  Nobody's pretending that the blurb is; why suggest the plot device was?

Can you give me an example of a video game you feel has no artistic merit?

Can you name a film without artistic merit?  If your definition of "art" involves any sort of cinematography at all, then you'll have a problem saying anything at all lacks artistic merit.

Likewise with games.  Anything I name will either have words (literary merit) or pictures (artistic merit).  So, when I give you an example, understand that just because a game has pictures, that does not mean it meets any artistic merit.

That said, Pong.  Pong lacks any legitimate artistic merit.  If I had more time (a week or so), I could probably come up with a better example than that.

Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect ...

And herein lies the problem with the Miller Test.  It's far too vague and subjective to accurately define obscenity.

"average person" "community standards" "depicts/describes in a patently offensive way" "serious literary/artistic/scientific/political value"

None of those things are defined so we can go back and forth all day on why Rapelay does or does not fall into any of those categories.  I see how it could and I see how it couldn't.

At the end of the day, I don't care whether Rapelay is viewed as obscene or not.  All I care about is that people understand that it's just a game, it's not real, it can't hurt anyone (unless you hit them over the head with the game disk), and while you don't have to play it (or in the case of Amazon (ignoring Amazon JP) sell it), any interested gamers should be able to.

Getting back to the original question of “why justify or defend Rapelay?” - it’s a work that a lot of serious effort went into creating.  Some may find the end product deplorable simply because of its content but there are those out there who enjoy the game for a variety of reasons and I think that's enough to justify and defend its existence.  It fills a need without hurting anyone or violating anyone's rights.

And finally, just for fun…

"That said, Pong.  Pong lacks any legitimate artistic merit."

In an art gallery I once saw a painting of a red circle on a plain white canvas.  Damn thing was selling for a couple grand.  Certainly has serious artistic merit to someone.

Anyway, Pong, when taken as a whole, does have artistic (and scientific) merit.  Getting an oscilloscope to render and animate a brick and a square ball was a heck of a feat back in the day.  The engineer had to work a hell of a lot of technical magic to get it to work.  While I could write Pong in half an hour today, I can't help but acknowledge the skill, imagination, and creativity that went into creating the original and call it art.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect ...

They were selling a Japanese flag?

There have always been motherf*ckers, there will always be motherf*ckers, but what we can't do is let them control our motherf*cking lives. -John Oliver, December 1st, 2008

There have always been motherf*ckers, there will always be motherf*ckers, but what we can't do is let them control our motherf*cking lives. -John Oliver, December 1st, 2008

Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect ...

Heh, wrong shape (the canvas I mean) and the circle was off center but yeah, pretty much.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect ...

And I think pong is very artsy fartsy...

so one of us must be right... and the other is wrong...

wanna sword fight over it?

I kid... I'm wright, because my moral viewpoints are better than your moral viewpoints... fact! :D

Also, because my viewpoints are fact (like you believe yours are), asparagus is disgusting, and Dark Knight is the crappiest movie ever.

Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect ...

I state my viewpoints because I believe I can make a good case for them.  They are opinions, just like anybody else's.  The only thing we can do is try to persuade others, or at the very least let them see where we're coming from.

Except for the asparagus.  It truly is horrible.

Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect ...

but you're splitting hairs, and going on a case by case basis... which... in the ideal world would be nice... but as of this moment, rapelay basically represents the entire industry... it's why I get pissed off at Rockstar... I do believe they should have the right to release whatever crap they want... but I wish they displayed a little bit more tact.

And the Dark Knight was a really REALLY bad movie... seriously... worst.movie.evar!

Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect ...

That's just it, don't you see?  Rapelay is not a stand-in for the gaming industry, just as Dark Knight is not a stand-in for the entire movie industry.

You need to view things on a case-by-case basis.  Broad assertions don't always work.

Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect ...

I've got this one (playing devil's advocate here): Braid

 

ZING! :D

Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect ...

Again with the cherry picking... I don't see how you can lambast rapelay (or whatever it's called) and defend GTA, and Manslaughter (or again, whatever it's called), just cuz they have stories. Hell, even pornos have stories.

Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect ...

The stories are a significant part of the experience of Manhunt and GTA.  They make statements about destructive behavior and Western culture.  That gives them artistic merit.

Rapelay's story is not a significant part of its experience.  It's simply a setup so you can start to rape three people.  You could conceivably skip the entire story and not miss anything of real import.

Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect ...

"The stories are a significant part of the experience of Manhunt and GTA.  They make statements about destructive behavior and Western culture."

So art must be judgmental to qualify as art? Art cannot have a negative message?

Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect ...

So this idiot implies that there's a significant amount of liberals that are gay pedophiles who have little objection to child porn and/or child-adult sex.

Words cannot describe the utter stupidity of that statement.

It's part of the same old tactic. Convince people that those on the other side of the spectrum are all satanic, inferior, stupid, Anti-American or out to get you in some way. That way people won't  listen to the other side and probably won't listen if/when people point out the flaws of your ideas. Then you can keep feeding them the same one-sided cherry picked BS and not worry about all those dangerous counter-ideas.

It's a way to get people (or at least their followers) to instantly dismiss 'bad ideas' when they can't get government to get rid of them.

It's why the hard religion preaches 'gay and/or atheists are tools of Satan'.

It's why some conservatives preach that there's a war on Christmas and that the ACLU is going to get them.

It's why that some liberals are led to believe that the NRA and/or most private gun owners are irresponsible rednecks.

And of course there's the old bs of 'liberals are all morally bankrupt, anarchists, and anti-American' 'conservatives are religious freaks who wish to force you to follow their rules and they're nuts'

I could go on.

Oh well stereotyping and demonizing are not the marks of a true journalist or one interested in honest discussion. They're the marks of an idiot.

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Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect ...

"This week Amazon.com... finally decided to ban... "Rapelay.""

"Finally"?  Amazon removed it within 24 hours of the original newspaper article.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect Debacle

Wait, we have virtual reality games now? And on Amazon? Wow.

Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect Debacle

How did this blowhard get elected again?

Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect Debacle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZCISY40qns

 
 
 

There have always been motherf*ckers, there will always be motherf*ckers, but what we can't do is let them control our motherf*cking lives. -John Oliver, December 1st, 2008

There have always been motherf*ckers, there will always be motherf*ckers, but what we can't do is let them control our motherf*cking lives. -John Oliver, December 1st, 2008

Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect Debacle

Enough people thought he was good? He must've been going up against Hitler.

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Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect Debacle

UGH. >_<

Just..... UGH.

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Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect ...

I hate both political parties and quite franky see little difference between the two. This clown wants to blame Democrats for spending despite that for the last 8 years the Republicans spent and spent and killed regulations and as a result we're in this mess today. We can blame the Congress who for 6 out of 8 of Bush's years had a Republican majority, something ppl seem to forget. I blame both parties for this mess but the Republicans take most of it. Whatever party is in control, they spend our like drunked sailors yet don't take a dime out of their own incomes (no surprise). I'm not a huge Obama supporter but I want to give him the benefit of a doubt and hope he can make something happen for the economy. This guy is a piece of work who like other Republicans got us in this mess and then pretend to be the voice of reason? Give me a f**k**g break. It took 8 years before ppl finally out Bush was sscrewing the country beyond repair and noone says anything til its too late. Now he's off scott free. Obama has been in for a month and everyone wants to blame him for everything that has gone wrong in human history. Anyway this gamepolitics not politics so as I said before especially in regards to the GOP that their arguements for the dangers of simulations of violence in games falls on deaf ears as long as they continue to make more leanient gun laws. According to them: violent acts on polygon models is is bad but providing weapons to people, many who don't have emotion control and maturity to be trusted with a nerf gun: A-OK. As long as its this way all the politicians and Jack Thompsons of the country don't have a leg to stand on.

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Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect ...

Same here

 

Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights

America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.

Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect Debacle

Seriously, put this guy against the wall for treason would ya? Pretty sure that calling the President and his entire party rapists can be considered treason by some weird ancient fucked up law.

Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect Debacle

Lol, when Jefferson and Adams were running for the 2nd President, the people doing the campaigning said that if one was elected, "rape, incest, and sodamy would run rampant." Back in the day, shit like this was nothing. We've become wayyyy too sensitive and bitchy.

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Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect ...

Do you really think that venting your spleen like this particular blogger is prone to do serves intelligent discourse.

Heres Kevin McCullough Family guy style

Kevin McCullough's house gets destroyed by the stimulus pakage and rapelay

Kevin McCullough: WTH, no no no nooooooooooooooo.

Bathtub falls to the ground breaking in the process

Kevin McCullough: I got to stop making comparison to videogames and the stupid stimulus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG8GMemv2xc (link added for the family guy skit of which it was inspired from)

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Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights

America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.

Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect Debacle

ROFL, I may hate the stimulus package and dislike Obama, but this guy takes the cake.

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Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect Debacle

Words fail to describe the stupid found in his blog.

I hate hard-line political bloggers.  They're nothing but oratory masturbation.

 

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Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect Debacle

If you think this is like masturbation then you are doing something SERIOUSLY wrong.  This tripe is mentally painful on so many levels.  Masturbation is generally supposed to be pleasureable.

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Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect Debacle

What I ment by that is that hard-line bloggers (both left and right) write hyberbole to make themselves feel smart and superior (it's easy when you don't have the other side to argue points).  Those that visit those sites often usually have the same hard-line views and go to said sites to help renforce the percepective bubble they've placed around themselves, meanwhile the blogger in question gets the smug satisfaction that people believe what he/she says.

Hence, oratory masturbation.  They're getting off at the idea that they aren't alone with their crazy beliefs.  I guess you could say it's more like a circle jerk though.

Of course the same could be applied to any internet site, but you rarely see the same amount of hardcore ideological belief and preaching than on these kind of blog sites.  (Go check out Freerepublic or Democratic Underground if you like, though I wouldn't suggest either.)

 

Tea and cake or death! Tea and cake or death! Little Red Cook-book! Little Red Cook-book!

Tea and cake or death! Tea and cake or death! Little Red Cook-book! Little Red Cook-book!

Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect ...

I think he enjoyed writing it.

Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect ...

Maybe he's a masochist.

 

"That's not ironic. That's justice."

"That's not ironic. That's justice."

Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect ...

Conservative bloggers have a reputation of having no shame, but this guy is in a league of his own. He tried to be as tasteful as possible? Really? Because I think being tasteful would be to actually analyze the stimulus plan and then point out its flaws without using the word "rape" 6 times, including in the title. Am I asking too much? At least could he avoid making a retarded comparison to a rape based video game that has absolutely nothing to do with the subject at hand? And the comments. Oh god, the comments! If you don't spend the majority of your days in a drunken stupor, please do yourself a favor and don't read the comments. You might not be able to handle the idiocy. It's just... I mean I know that people can have different opinions about politics! It's perfectly reasonable to have your doubts about the stimulus plan. The simple fact is that only a handful of people in the world know enough about economics to really be able to guess at what will happen, and even they may be wrong. But to say the things that this fucker and his dipshit audience said is astounding. I didn't know that people like that knew how to read, let alone use a computer. And just look at this: "This last week through informal surveys on my blog and social networking pages I asked the public what the United States government had done to its citizens in ramming the partisan stimulus package through votes and preparing for it the President's desk." That's a direct quote from the article. It's part of the opening paragraph. It's the first fucking thing you see. If I were to submit a paper that started like that to any class, the professor probably wouldn't even read past that sentence. Does he even think when he does this? Does he just slam his forehead against the keyboard and then print what comes out? It's like he lost his train of thought twice in the course of writing that sentence. Actually, that's not true, because that thing isn't even close to being a sentence. How people like this manage to get work eludes me. Edit: Sorry for the wall of text, but the newline character doesn't seem to be being read.
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Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect ...

"Conservative bloggers have a reputation of having no shame..." Let me correct that for you

"Political bloggers have a reputation of having no shame..." I've seen many a Liberal blogger be just as shameful so sorry I had to correct it, I'm getting kinda tired of see this "Republican this..." "Democrat that..." Because they're all morons of the same calibure...

Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect ...

There's something wrong when blowhard pundits, both liberal and conservative, get to keep their job by being idiots all the time, yet factory workers, something that the world actually needs, get fired.

Also, you can space stuff out by hitting the enter/return key.

Like this.

"That's not ironic. That's justice."

"That's not ironic. That's justice."

Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect ...

I don't find liberal pundits nearly as infuriating or shameless. They are usually more whiny and annoying though. If you're going to spout your retarded lies and half truths, at least have the balls to call everybody who doesn't agree with you a moron.
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Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect ...

Are you serious?  You need to look at some of the more liberal pundits a little closer then.  Far more infuriating and shameless.

Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect ...

Ann Coulter. You lose.

Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect ...

Who other than Michael Moore even comes close to this?

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Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect ...

Dude, have you looked at the likes of coulter objectivley?

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At any rate, Does anyone hear think that intelligent discourse is served when idiots like this particular blogger are given free reign?

Re: Conservative Blogger Who Triggered 2008 Mass Effect ...

You know, Coulter and this guy kind of fall into the same catagory. They are like real life villains. They're entertainment. And they can create intelligent debate. Sure, most of that debate is over whether trash like them should be allowed to say the things they say, but it's still intelligent debate.

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PHX Corp@Adam802 We'll break out the popcorn in June12/19/2014 - 9:23pm
ZippyDSMleeMaskedPixelante: I'm itching to start it too but I will wait till the patch goes live. >>12/19/2014 - 7:52pm
Adam802Leland Yee and Jackson get trial date: http://sfbay.ca/2014/12/18/leland-yee-keith-jackson-get-trial-date/12/19/2014 - 5:24pm
MaskedPixelanteNevermind. Turns out when they said "the patch is now live", they meant "it's still in beta".12/19/2014 - 5:07pm
MaskedPixelanteSo I bought Dark Souls PC, and it's forcing me to log into GFWL. Did I miss something?12/19/2014 - 5:00pm
Matthew Wilsonhttp://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/12/republicans-may-have-plan-to-save-internet-providers-from-utility-rules/ this is intreasting. congress may put net nutrality in to law to avoid title 2 classification12/19/2014 - 2:45pm
Matthew Wilsonhttp://www.polygon.com/2014/12/19/7421953/bullshit-cards-against-humanity-donated-250k-sunlight-foundation I have to admit I like the choice o organization. congrats to CAH.12/19/2014 - 1:51pm
E. Zachary KnightIf you are downloading a copy in order to bypass the DRM, then you are legally in the wrong. Ethically, if you bought the game, it doesn't matter where you download it in the future.12/19/2014 - 12:06pm
InfophileEZK: Certainly better that way, though not foolproof. Makes me think though: does it count as piracy if you download a game you already paid for, just not from the place you paid for it at? Ethically, I'd say no, but legally, probably yes.12/19/2014 - 11:20am
 

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