Australian Cosplayers Plan to "Storm" Parliament Over R18+ Rating

February 19, 2009 -

In Australia, gamers continue to petition their government for an R18+ rating.

As GamePolitics has reported, one man - South Australian Attorney General Michael Atkinson - has so far successully blocked the R18+.

That being the case, gamers Down Under plan to take their protest directly to Atkinson on March 4th - and in costume as well.

According to R18games:

Gametraders is organising a rally to support an R18+ rating for video games in South Australia. The rally will take place at 1pm on the 4th of March, on the steps of the Adelaide Parliament House. As you all know, Adelaide is the home of the South Australian Attorney-General, Michael Atkinson, chief opponent of an R18+ rating for games in Australia.

However, it appears that some gamers are concerned that protesting in costume will make their position seem frivolous; that aspect of the protest is under review:

It’s clear from the feedback... that a lot of people have some concerns about the cosplay nature of the rally. Gametraders has contacted [R18games] to say they will be issuing a further statement shortly...


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Re: Australian Cosplayers Plan to "Storm" Parliament Over ...

There's a certain point where the older generation has overstepped it's boundaries and it's time for the younger generation to tell them to shove off. However, they should all storm it dressed up as spartans. That'll get some attention.


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Violent games, violent movies, violent gamers. I dunno.

Re: Australian Cosplayers Plan to "Storm" Parliament Over R18+

The Million Mechsuit March. Dur hur hur. :B

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Re: Australian Cosplayers Plan to "Storm" Parliament Over R18+

Everyone should dress up in stormtrooper costumes for the event...it would be truly epic!

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Re: Australian Cosplayers Plan to "Storm" Parliament Over ...

Amen. But it won't get the message across.

Re: Australian Cosplayers Plan to "Storm" Parliament Over R18+

Why woulden't you want an R18 rating? Especially if your the Australian government. We get our R18 games and you get the tax dollars that come with those games. You get more money for other useful things like roads, schools, bridges, and so forth. The postitives outweigh the negatives.

Re: Australian Cosplayers Plan to "Storm" Parliament Over R18+

Most in the country actually are in favor. it's just this one lone dirt bag that keeps defying both popular and goverment opinion that there should be an 18 plus rating.

As it has been said, atkinson is the primary jerk that keeps saying no. I keep saying he needs to be voted out of office or impeached or some other kinda thing to get his lame, uptight ass out of there.

HOpefully, this demonstration will get him to remove his head from his rear.

But I doubt it.

 

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Re: Australian Cosplayers Plan to "Storm" Parliament Over ...

It was mentioned in a previous article on this topic that the laws in Australia do not allow for this to occur, which is unfortunate.

 

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Re: Australian Cosplayers Plan to "Storm" Parliament Over R18+

I would love to see a steel cage death match between Yahtzee and Atkinson.

Ok, doesn't really add to the conversation, just stating that I would like to see it. :)

I do wonder if the protester's time and energy were better spent on getting him out of office than this stunt.  Though truth be told I'm rather ignorant about Australian election laws and procedures so that might not be an option for them.

 

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Epic.

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Re: Australian Cosplayers Plan to "Storm" Parliament Over R18+

I'd pay for front-row seats to a show like that.

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Whether they go in costume or not (hopefully not) I hope this will send a clear message to the attorney general that he is not dealing with a small mass of 8-12 year olds, but a LARGE percentage of adults.

Michael Atkinson should be asking himself, why when the United States...Canada...United Kingdom...Germany...Japan...hell pretty much every developed nation has a mature rating for 17/18 and older. Does he want to make as though Austrailia is backwards and not as innovative as its counterparts? Seriously if that man were in North America and tried that, he would last probably a week in office...at the most.

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If I am not mistaken, he has said something in the past along the lines of all those nations with an17/18+ rating were the backwards ones.

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Re: Australian Cosplayers Plan to "Storm" Parliament Over R18+

Ditch the costume, go in normal clothing. It'll make it seem like a group of normal people are protesting, rather then a bunch of costumed crazies. A douche bag like Atkinson would no doubt use that as a way to try and prove that gamers "Need protection". Going in normal clothing with signs might be more effective.


Oh, and just cause I would love to see, some one make a sign of Yahtzee from Zero punctuation beating the R 18+ emblem into atkinsons skull. That would be a riot.

 

 

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Re: Australian Cosplayers Plan to "Storm" Parliament Over R18+

People in normal clothing going to parliament to protest.  Yeah, that sounds like a REAL attention-grabber.  I'm sure the media will be all over that.

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What you need to remember is that you're not dealing with someone that understands gamers and gamer culture, which is in and of itself multi-faceted.  Practically everyone born since 1975 plays or has played some form of video game, and the ones that are legal adults now are a significant portion of the population in any county.

Approach them like you were trying to make a business deal.  Clean suits and ties would be best, but anything you have that looks like something a professional businessman/woman would wear is what should be worn.  Also, be very curteous and respectful.  Do not shout, threaten, or intimidate.

As for signs, go with visually appealing and simple messages.  Something that identifies you as a professional adult that happens to be a gamer is good, something like "John Smith, 25, Network Security Analyst, Gamer."  Also, if you have kids, include the word "parent" on there somewhere.  Same goes for things like soccer coach, basically anything that makes you look good.

I personally do not have anything against cosplay, but remember, we're not trying to send a message to ourselves.  We're trying to send message to someone who doesn't understand us, and the best way to do that appearance-wise is to dress like someone that person is comfortable being around.

Hope this helps.

 

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Re: Australian Cosplayers Plan to "Storm" Parliament Over R18+

Should be entertaining if nothing else, though I doubt it'll help them get the message across.

 

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Re: Australian Cosplayers Plan to "Storm" Parliament Over R18+

yeah got to say, got no problem with cosplay, but not here.

 

I wouldnt go ask my boss for a raise dressed in cosplay. Just seems unprofessional.

Re: Australian Cosplayers Plan to "Storm" Parliament Over R18+

Arriving in childrens clothes that doesn't fit them and signs saying we aren't children so don't treat our entertainment like we are, would probably be much better...

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Awesome idea. Gets the message across perfectly. However, there's one problem: what about the minors that want to protest?

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Re: Australian Cosplayers Plan to "Storm" Parliament Over ...

They don't get the signs...

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Now that is a great idea!

Re: Australian Cosplayers Plan to "Storm" Parliament Over ...

I think the more professional and civilized the people are about it, the more they're likely to be taken seriously. Make your point known without the costumes.

Re: Australian Cosplayers Plan to "Storm" Parliament Over ...

If I were a politician and a bunch of people dressed up as VG Characters appeared outside my office, I'm not 100% certain I'd consider that a positive argument...

As as suggested earlier, a bunch of professionals who are also game players would probably earn more kudos than a bunch of game players dressed up as Mario.

Re: Australian Cosplayers Plan to "Storm" Parliament Over ...

I'm sure many cosplayers lead mature, responsible lives.  However, cosplaying is hardly a mature adult pasttime (there is nothing wrong with that), and this rally will do more to hurt the chances of a R18+ rating being pushed.

Perhaps a "storm" of parents, professionals, and other adults who play games is in order.

Re: Australian Cosplayers Plan to "Storm" Parliament Over ...

If anyone knows how anonymous has been affective against scientology with masks and costumes and "lol" inspired protest themes, then you can't argue that costumes are a bad idea entirely.  It just needs to be carefully utilized.

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Re: Australian Cosplayers Plan to "Storm" Parliament Over ...

The main advantage of the costumes in those protests is that they get the public's attention.  A LOT of people stop and take photos and otherwise pay attention to the more flamboyantly dressed members of the local anti-Scientology group, whereas more plainly dressed protesters are largely ignored.

For the protest mentioned in the article, I think it depends on whose attention they're trying to get.  If they want to attract the eyes of the media and the general public, costumes are a great idea.  If, on the other hand, their main focus is on the government, I would recommend something more low-key... uniforms, perhaps (ie. everyone wearing the same colour or a similar hat or something just for group identity), but nothing more elaborate.  But... if they do that, the media and general public will likely ignore them because they will cease to be interesting. 

Since this looks like it's mostly a publicity stunt, I'd say their safest bet is to dress funny, make sure they have something intelligent to say, and hope a local TV crew is on hand.

Re: Australian Cosplayers Plan to "Storm" Parliament Over ...

In that case the costumes had a serious reason, fear of reprisal from Scientology. It didn't stop some of the protesters being arrested in Georgia, and a few of the protesters that were recognized were hassled in other locations.

In this case, the costumes would further sepperate the protesters from the populace. The majority of people couldn't picture themselves as dressing up. In order to show support, you should be in regular street clothes. Let them see that gamers are ordinary people, and voting citizens.

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Re: Australian Cosplayers Plan to "Storm" Parliament Over ...

What would you suggest?

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Re: Australian Cosplayers Plan to "Storm" Parliament Over R18+

I'd vote for no costumes.  If we gamers want to truly be taken seriously by the older generation, I think a professional and dignified approach needs to be adopted.

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Re: Australian Cosplayers Plan to "Storm" Parliament Over R18+

Yeah, but cosplay will get a heck of a lot more media attention, and whether we like it or not, cosplay has no stigma attached to it, whereas gaming does.  What headline do you think will get the positive spin for us gamers - "Hundreds of Angry Gamers Storm Parliament" or "Hundreds of People in Costumes Storm Parliament"?

Anyway, it's not an 'older generation' that people are trying to convince.  Most gamers these days are over 30.  It's not stodgy eldsters, but our own generation of non-gamers that needs convincing.

Re: Australian Cosplayers Plan to "Storm" Parliament Over R18+

whether we like it or not, cosplay has no stigma attached to it

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Re: Australian Cosplayers Plan to "Storm" Parliament Over R18+

It's a fair point, although "Hundreds of Angry Gamers Storm Parliament" would probably be a somewhat sensationalistic headline compared to what will actually happen.

Your last statement is kind of baffling to me...when I say older generation, I'm talking about the 50+ non-gamers.  I sure see a lot more of them as the subject of negative articles on this site than non-gamers closer to our age.

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Re: Australian Cosplayers Plan to "Storm" Parliament Over ...

I agree with you and the guy below you.  Costumes are not a good idea, unless the protest is very well organized, and uses costumes in a good manor. 

Idea 3 - How about every costume has a controller attached and half of the people are not in costume and "controlling" the person.  This could make for a point too...

I think to be taken most serious some form of innovative protest would be best to draw attention to the protest, and a website needs to be setup explaining their position so people walking by can learn more on why they have this stance.  All needs to be done professionally and carefully though.  All protests walk a fine line of proving a point and causing problems.  Sometimes some people just cause trouble.  So organization is key.

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I like Idea #3!

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