Jack Thompson Bill Overwhelmingly Approved by Utah House Committee

February 24, 2009 -

He wasn't on hand to testify and his name wasn't mentioned, but the influence of disbarred Miami attorney Jack Thompson was apparent in yesterday's meeting of the Business and Labor Committee of the Utah House of Representatives.

By a 10-3 vote, committee members approved H.B. 353, a bill drafted by Thompson and sponsored by Rep. Mike Morley. The measure targets the video game and film industries by amending Utah's current Truth in Advertising law. Retailers and movie theaters which advertise that they don't sell M-rated games or R-rated movie tickets to underage buyers and then do so would be liable for fines of $2,000 per incident.

Those testifying on behalf of the bill included Alan Osmond, the most senior of the Osmond Brothers vocal group and Gayle Ruzicka, the politically powerful head of the ultra-conservative Utah Eagle Forum.

For his part, Osmond, read into the record verbatim passages from an e-mail circulated earlier yesterday by Thompson. Osmond, however, did not identify Thompson as the author:

This link shows a montage of sex scenes from the Grand Theft Auto IV game which has been sold and is presently being sold at BestBuy.com, WalMart.com, Target.com, GameStop.com, and at other retailers’ sites, with no age verification whatsoever.

As you can see, there are graphically depicted lap dances in a “gentleman’s club” in this game, including simulation of oral/anal sexual intercourse between women.  The hero in the game then has intercourse, clearly depicted...  The hero then kills the woman by gunfire and running her over with his car.

Now that’s entertainment...

Utah must do something about these major retailers who are flat-out lying to the public when they assert they are not selling this and other similar pornographic “games” to kids when in fact they are...

Conservative power broker Gayle Ruzicka also testified on behalf of the bill with a Thompson-esque flavor, mentioning Devin Moore, the GTA-playing Alabama teen who murdered three police officers in 2004. Thompson, representing the officers' families, subsequently brought suit against Rockstar Games, Sony and others before being thrown off the case by an Alabama judge for professional conduct violations in November, 2005.

For those familiar with Thompson's anti-GTA crusade, Ruzicka's testimony had a familiar tone:

These [games] are the kind of things that are training our children. This is the vile stuff. The Grand Theft Auto games are cop-killing murder simulators. And when [Devin Moore] was faced with being arrested he knew exactly what to do. He knew how to aim... at the head and each time killed these [officers]. We don't want this for our children. Not at all. Please, please vote yes today on this bill.

 

Anything we can do to protect our children from the violence, from the filthy pornography that the only way they can get into the pornography is being good at the game. They work hard and get to certain levels and when they get to the high enough levels then they get into the pornography - filthy, vile stuff that you would be appalled and never want your children to see. And then as a reward, they get to kill the women...

Dick Cornell of the Utah Association of Theater Owners was among those who testified against the bill:

 

Theater owners have taken pride in enforcing [MPAA] ratings... There isn't any forgiveness in this [bill] for an intent by someone else to deceive us, so we would be penalized for that...

 

One thing that we're very susceptible for in this legislation is that we would be penalized if there was a ticket purchase over... online or on the ticket kiosk. Because as soon as that purchase was made... we would be in violation of this law... We know of some theaters here in Utah that 40% of the ticket sales are done through a kiosk or online purchases... We have theaters that will on the weekend pull in 10,000 people of a Saturday. The chances of exceeding this [bill's] limit, it's possible, even though our intent to keep the kids out.

 

This bill really discourages compliance with our voluntary system. The only protection that we would have if this passes is to not follow the enforcement rules... And we don't want to do that...

Oddly enough, Rep. Morley said that it was not his intent to have the proposal apply to movie tickets, although the language of the measure would seem to encompass theaters.

HB 353 will now move on to the full Utah House for consideration.

AUDIO FILE: Listen as the committee considers the bill (53mb, 58 mins, mp3).


Comments

I got a response from my state legislator

I emailed my state legislator and got a response tonight...

 

 I have reviewed the bill and the committee vote and am having a hard time understanding why you are so vehement against the bill.  It simply states that it is a "deceptive trade practice" to advertise you do not sell to minors" and then you do sell to minors.  It does not limit the sale of video games in any way.  It simply requests that those doing so, be up front with their customers.  I read the link you provided and understand it is coming from a position of no regulation for video games.  However, this appears to be not about video games, though they could certainly be included, but about the sale of any product, including video games, that are provided to minors.  I agree that more education for parents would be helpful as well.
  I would note that I am a Republican that believes in limited government. This appears to be very limited in its application.  All the Republicans and one Democrat voted for this bill (10) while only 3 other democrats voted against it.  I appreciate you bringing this to my attention and am certainly willing to listen to any other information you wish to send me on this or any other issue.
Sincerely,

Lorie D. Fowlke
Representative
District 59
Orem, Utah

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I'd say the problem is the law is too broad. It can screw over ANYTHING with an age recommendation, from movie theaters to a game rated T being sold to a 12-year old. The movie-guy said it himself, this law will require them to change their policies because they are not capable of guaranteeing a 100% success rate.

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if I were in Utah, I would no longer be able to get my kid cousin anything for his birthday/Xmas because I'm too old to buy anything recommended for ages 7-12

岩「…Where do masochists go when they die?」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

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The Grand Theft Auto games are cop-killing murder simulators. And when [Devin Moore] was faced with being arrested he knew exactly what to do. He knew how to aim... at the head and each time killed these [officers].

Because that's how we know David killed Goliath. Why else would David aim for the forehead?

岩「…Where do masochists go when they die?」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

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Sad thing is, people like them usually blame things that they don't like or have no interest in.

And when something they like gets targeted, they do everything to protect it under the laws of the 1st Admendment when in fact they are also attacking another person's freedom of speech and expression.

Every time when those religious people talk about Videogames teaching kids to shoot people in the head, we might be better off to counter their statements with giving them a note that if every child grew up reading or learning about David and Goliath, they would also learn that if you shoot someone in the head either with a bullet or stone, then you would most likely kill them.

So in a way, if videogames teach children about shooting people in the head, then the bible is just as much guilty as videogames are with the David and Goliath example.

 

TBoneTony

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I'm going to start selling bubbles for parents to put their children in so they don't have to worry about any kind of outside influences preying on their young. The only problem is I'd probably get sued once children started dying because the parents forgot to put food in the bubble or clean out the waste every now and again. Air holes optional.

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I also think that the game GTA should be played in the court to show that people have been lying about the content in videogames.

 

 

TBoneTony

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/agree, that's all we really need to do

"Go ahead and hate your neighbor, go ahead and cheat a friend. Do it in the name of Heaven, Jack Thompson'll justify it in the end." - nightwng2000

"Go ahead and hate your neighbor, go ahead and cheat a friend. Do it in the name of Heaven, Jack Thompson'll justify it in the end." - nightwng2000

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These lies about videogames being porn and poisining our society is the verry thing that is polloting politics at the moment

 

no body is able to think clearly.

 

And to blame it on the industry, it is just so wrong.

 

TBoneTony

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"Language of this bill is a dissinsentive to try and enforce our policies"


Best comment in this audio hearing.

TBoneTony

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Also if no retailer would ever put up their advertising that they would not sell M17+ rated games. Then it would only be worse for the parents.

Also the "protect our kids" type of people who blatenly lie about the comment.

I have nothing I have to say to those people, these people who pretend to talk about protecting the kids and say things that GTA is Porn when in fact it is NOT!!!

 

These people who lie about videogames or the content in videogames are just scum who are trying to pass the laws.

 

I am only happy to see that a few people who still kept their heads.

 

TBoneTony

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Like imagine how politicians feel if they were subjected to these Truth in advertising laws, instead having a law that will impose a truth in politics law.

No politician would support it, because they would be subject to those laws the politicians will be really afraid of saying anything in case they are caught of making a mistake.

Also how would Fox News feel if they were subjected to the laws of Truth in Media legislation.

 

TBoneTony

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One parent has accturely supported the games retailers,

She said that it is the parents that should have responsibility and that the retailers who try their best should not be subjected to those laws.

Also the game retailer spokesmen really did his best job here, and I can only appluad him for trying his best, but he should have spoken out against the politicians who was blatenly lying about the sexual content in the game Grand Theft Auto IV.

 

TBoneTony

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I just wish while hearing the audio that there should have been a gamer in the audience, they should have outlined the numorus errors of their statements about Grand Theft Auto.

 

TBoneTony

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I can see a court judge ask the conservative party member who made this bill ask them if this was intentionally apply to Videogames only to have movies caught up in it.

I am sure that Hollywood will have a larger voice in this, and it will blow up on Eagle Forum's faces when this happens.

 

TBoneTony

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I am hearing the audio right now,

Age in-appropriate ratings for minors.

Isn't an M17+ game have a rating that is sold to minors at the age of 17.???

Also why try to fine a games retailer getting fined by 2,000$ if the product has got no proof of being harmful for minors.

All this time, a few of these people have talked so much about studies that have been so flawed just to back up their own opinions.

All those facts are not backed up by accurate research. Yet these people always try to focus on studies that support their view.

There is an accurate study in Grand Theft Childhood that does prove that teenagers can distinguish between fantasy and reality, it is said within their own voices and also with the ways they parent their younger siblings.

 

 

 

TBoneTony

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A little mathematical-political fact that is quite observable.

The more conservative someone gets, the less confident/responsible/adult/self-aware they seem about managing violent media within their households, or personnal life.

I fail to comprehend why an ultra-conversative wouldn't do the effort to NOT behold violence when he sees it and is displeased, but instead need to run into a room filled with old men/women scared about the world and write basic educational rules on a paper, and pass it as a bill...

One takes an instant, the others months.

All in all, this bill will encourage piracy ; Can't get the latest gore-splattering shooter at the store? Download it, kid, it's free. This bill, while having a noble purpose, is utterly useless for it will never truly succeed in what it's supposed to do.

Also, how fucking hard is it for a parent to look up their children's games and say "You're 15 and this game is for 17 and over. Sorry, you should've thought about it." and take it away?

A lot, apparently.

And finally, another math formula ; The more conservative someone gets, the more susecptible they are to blame human behavior and all it's fun lil horrors on things they fail to comprehend or deal with. Pretty much like an emotionnaly-distressed individual. 

 

 

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To many post to read them all but anyways,

I work at a Gamestop, I really don't care if this bill passed. With it or without it I would still get fired by the corp. and possibly sued by the Parents for contributiong to the delinquency of a minor. So adding a $2500 fine doesn't bother me. But JT just is a DICKHEAD!

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Seems like some people still have NEVER PLAYED THE GAME they are talking about.

Also it seems that the link did not really have anything explicit.

But compared to the Eagle Forum, to them everything is explicit.

Even going to the tiolet is explicit.

I guess someone needs to go there and set the record straight, someone from Rockstar or even from the ESRB or even the people from the Florida Bar and say that this legislation is going too far with comments and emails like that, or even say that this sort of slander is provoking fear and hate towards the Videogame Industry.

In any way, the legislation will be shot down, and then everyone who believes Jack will more likely go on a moral riot,

that is what I truly think that Jack's plan is.

TBoneTony

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Utah gives conservatives a bad name, and iam liberal

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You know what I hope this bill passes

Just so that I can see this blow up in their face when all the retailers repeal thier voluntary policies and more of these games get sold to kids. Underage gamers should be celebrating this and hoping it passes(I'm not underage by the way).

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I love the part where Gayle Ruzicka says that he knew what Devin Moore was doing....  he shot the cops and found the quickest scapegoat he could instead of being a man by blaming the game when he willingly committed a crime and took life. All this bill does it makes it easier for ppl particularly minors and their parents who don't supervise them to blame everything but themselves when s**t hits the fan. And because of laws like this they'll win. The problems with America: Irresponsibility, Ignorance, Incompetance, Stupidity, and Scapegoats/Excuses. Anyone guilty of the above 6 points is awarded, not punished. Anyone wonders why this country is going down the crapper?

P.S. EVen if all the so called evidence about games influencing ppl to kill was 100% accurate......The one thing a game can't teach them is where to acquire their weapons. Where is all the outrage against minors acquiring weapons with apparently so little effort? Just shows how hypocritical they are. For the record I am actually neutral gun rights but when the real bullets and bloodshed are constantly ignored and the virtual ones are blamed for everything wrong in society it pisses me off.

"With free speech either all of it is ok or none of it is." Kyle Broflovski

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And you people keep wondering why I say the industry should be suing these imbeciles back to the stone age? Given the amount of BS spread in the hearing, Rockstar alone would have enough to make a good case. Let alone the ESA.

I guess Mike G is as spineless as Doug L was, pathetic and weak and to concerned with trying to make criminals of honest people over mod chips, then defending his customers rights.

Sad aint it, when even the good guys in a fight act like bad guys.

 

Yukimura is still here "Honor, that is what matters, isn't it? " Yukimura Sanada, from Samurai warriors 2

"My name is Lenerd Church, and you will fear my LASER FACE"

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Bill is challenged and overturned in 3, 2, 1.

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These [games] are the kind of things that are training our children. This is the vile stuff. The Grand Theft Auto games are cop-killing murder simulators.

Wowww... where to begin here... if I didnt see Dennis naming who this quote game from, I'd think it was another episode of Jack Thompson's Gamepolitics Adventures... First off... GAMES DO NOT TRAIN YOU TO SHOOT A GUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  If you claim that games cause violence, then how do you explain the tens of millions (maybe even hundreds of millions by now) of people that play games regulary... By this guy's numbers, humanity should have wiped itself off the face of the earth by now thanks to "T3H 3V17 V1DJ@ G@M3ZZZZ"  As for the cop-killing murder simulator part... it's standard JT and politician BS and i'm not even going to go into it

And when [Devin Moore] was faced with being arrested he knew exactly what to do. He knew how to aim... at the head and each time killed these [officers]. We don't want this for our children. Not at all. Please, please vote yes today on this bill.

Once again, games do not TRAIN you to shoot people... I play shooters regularly... and I also took up skeet/target shooting a few years ago.... four years later, i'm decent at shooters, but i'm still terrible at the real life shooting (it takes me about ten tries to hit one clay pigeon in skeet shooting, just for the record)... in real life, there is no lock-on button, there is no auto-aim, there is no enemy health-meter, there is no ammo indicator, and there is no automatic reload.... just for starters, in short, a video game is NOTHING like real life

Anything we can do to protect our children from the violence, from the filthy pornography that the only way they can get into the pornography is being good at the game.

Dudewut? That makes NO sense whatsoever... the only way they can get to the pornography... WHAT?! the only game I know of that ever did that was The Guy Game, which, interestingly enough, tanked.... miserably.

They work hard and get to certain levels and when they get to the high enough levels then they get into the pornography - filthy, vile stuff that you would be appalled and never want your children to see. And then as a reward, they get to kill the women...

This sounds like he just reworded his last statement, and then just put "they get to kill the women" at the end of it, but I'll humor this guy and shoot this one down too....  In GTA4, there are no missions where you "kill the women" as a reward. If you "kill the women" anyway, the cops chase you... if you keep it up, you get arrested and lose all your weapons and some cash... yes... nice reward isnt it?

@GP & co. : feel free to shorten these if you feel I got a bit long winded, I tend to rant when I'm angry >.>

"Go ahead and hate your neighbor, go ahead and cheat a friend. Do it in the name of Heaven, Jack Thompson'll justify it in the end." - nightwng2000

"Go ahead and hate your neighbor, go ahead and cheat a friend. Do it in the name of Heaven, Jack Thompson'll justify it in the end." - nightwng2000

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Lol even better example...

If i sit and play FIFA Soccer for 2 months solid, 18 hours a day, eating nothing but tasty but very unhealthy snacks, and get good enough that i can play against the hardest AI opponents, does that mean that i can get signed up to a professional football club getting paid like £1 million a week?

I mean.. ive trained right...?

I mean.. my coordination is just as good as in the game right?

I mean.. i can easy sprint for 90 minutes without getting breathless because i can do it in the game..... right?

 

no?

 

umm... Formula 1 racing then?....

umm Mario and sonic at the olympics? I am pretty good at the pole vault...

 

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Maybe if I play Rock Band for 5 hours a day, I'll know how to play REAL musical instruments!

:D

Incidentally,  Rush played 'Tom Sawyer' in Rock Band and FAILED their own song...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btcvSWoQWV0

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haha, I love Rush so I have no idea whether i should laugh at this or not :P

"Go ahead and hate your neighbor, go ahead and cheat a friend. Do it in the name of Heaven, Jack Thompson'll justify it in the end." - nightwng2000

"Go ahead and hate your neighbor, go ahead and cheat a friend. Do it in the name of Heaven, Jack Thompson'll justify it in the end." - nightwng2000

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WOW... how do lying a-holes like these keep getting nominated for political positions... surely at least SOME voters must have caught on to it by now...

This Link shows a montage of sex scenes from the Grand Theft Auto IV game which has been sold and is presently being sold at BestBuy.com, WalMart.com, Target.com, GameStop.com, and at other retailers’ sites, with no age verification whatsoever.

Umm... myself and everyone I know has been carded at all of those stores, even if the game isnt that graphic (splinter cell chaos theory for instance) and the clerk looks half-asleep... PS: I didnt even bother going to the link because i've combed gta from the inside out and never run into anything more graphic than the brief (and rather disturbing) instance of nudity in The lost and the Damned
As you can see, there are graphically depicted lap dances in a “gentleman’s club” in this game, including simulation of oral/anal sexual intercourse between women.  The hero in the game then has intercourse, clearly depicted...  The hero then kills the woman by gunfire and running her over with his car.
The lap dance part i'll give you... even though it's completely optional and not the same as a graphic sex scene (you can see more graphic scenes in just about every pg-13 rated movie) ... but  the rest though... which version of gta4 did they play? I've played through gta4 about 5 times and havent run into any graphic sex or missions that require you to run down hookers... in fact, if you do that, you usually get a wanted level and have to spend the next 10 minutes outrunning the friggin cops or getting killed
Now that’s entertainment...
Yes, entertainment... as in... not real... fantasy... no bearing in reality... good, you've just learned the meaning of a word that no politician seems to know
Utah must do something about these major retailers who are flat-out lying to the public when they assert they are not selling this and other similar pornographic “games” to kids when in fact they are...

No, Utah has to do nothing, if a kid gets ahold of a game like this, it's the PARENTS' fault, not the retailers, who have had more success than they've had in years in keeping games like this out of the hands of kids, and definitely not the publishers, because where that game goes is completely out of their hands once the first truckload of discs leaves the factory.

"Go ahead and hate your neighbor, go ahead and cheat a friend. Do it in the name of Heaven, Jack Thompson'll justify it in the end." - nightwng2000

"Go ahead and hate your neighbor, go ahead and cheat a friend. Do it in the name of Heaven, Jack Thompson'll justify it in the end." - nightwng2000

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Well, hardly surprising information. It'll be interesting to see what the ESA/MPAA etc do if it is passed, on one hand, it's harmless and pointless, on the other hand, there's too many doors been left open.

Rep Morley has already been duped by Thompson, looking at the whole movie theatre thing, it looks like Thompson was claiming it was an anti-game legislation when the truth was that Thompson was targetting everything. It does concern me that Morley obviously didn't read the bill too closely before submitting it.

If even the person submitting it didn't know what the Bill encompassed, then what other little tricks could be pulled using it?

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You can tell from the GamePolitics interview of Morely that he don't know too much of anything about his own legislation. But, then again, why should he? You can also tell from his GamePolitics interview that he's nothing more than a front for Ruzicka and Thompson. How much does he need to know in order to be a front?

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Thompson's video game law has, was, and awalys will be a Failure

Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights

America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.

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Is anyone else concerned by the quote: "including simulation of oral/anal sexual intercourse between women." Now, Im no Human Anatomy Major, but, according to what I know, that would seem physically impossible.. LOL

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"including simulation of oral/anal sexual intercourse between women."

I think the more accurate way to phrase that would be "two women pantomiming oral and anal intercourse."

I think "pantomiming" is a more accurate description and I removed "sexual" because "oral sexual intercourse" is redundant.

 

Andrew Eisen

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  I've played and finished this game, 

and...  i think i missed out on a few things.

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I just had a thought. Has anyone considered what might come from this bill if it does pass? Do you think that it will just stop with the passing of it? Yes I know that all retailers of movie tickets and videogames can stop advertising the fact that they card, which Does get them off the hook for being responsible. However who’s to say that the state won’t try to pass a second bill that will demand that the said retailers will HAVE to card and advertise the fact that they do so. If such a bill was passed then it gives the first bill some teeth, even if it is unjust. Not to mention if the affected groups don’t advertise the fact that they card, and/or stop carding then overly protective parents and the likes of Jack Thompson will call them out on it which can be bad for business.

Jack Thompson may have been permanently disbarred, but that doesn’t mean we should assume that we should relax on defending videogames. We should press on defending them, because if we don’t…. well look at what has happened to the US since a majority of the American. We grew complacent and lazy in regards to politics and our government which resulted in adding the transfer of more power to people in our government who abused it and royally F@^ked the country up. *cough* Bush *cough*.  Complacency and laziness leads to the loss of strength and decay.

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Responsibility: Its time that the next generation takes up the reigns of power in our government, before the old fools who hold them steer this country of ours closer to capsizing. We must act before its to late to repair the damage.

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Retailers can simply say that people buying M-rated games MAY be required to show ID.  It would fulfill your advertising requirement but doesn't commit the retailer to 100% compliance.

Also, such a law faces more free speech concerns than the current one.  The current one says you only have to do A if you voluntarily chose to do B.  Saying that stores HAVE to have some policy is compelled speech which is generally a no-no.

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Didn't listen to the mp3 yet...did anyone from the ESA show up?

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not that i know

Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights

America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.

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Ok, I live in Utah.  I just emailed my state representative and encourage her to vote AGAINST this bill...  I've done my part.

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were a list of Jack's perjuries included as well?

岩「…Where do masochists go when they die?」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

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Typical republican sheep mentality. Wish I could say I was suprised by this, but, it came exactly as expected.

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Leland Yee, Hillary Clinton & friends say hi.

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Sweeping half thought out generaliations much?  I am a registered Republician (though find I am more of a politican agnostic now and despise people like Glenn Beck) and a Gamer. I am mostly sane (I think) and even allowed to go into public without a keeper. 

Being an arse has alot less to do with political beliefs and much more to do with the individual.

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That may be true, but I give the democrats more slack because whenever I disagreed with Clinton, I was never called a traitor to my country, a terrorist sympathizer, an America-hater, etc, unlike when when the last guy was in office. They've earned my contempt. 

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And with that one statement you've struck the heart of the matter, the reason that we hate the Rupublican party, because we've been their whipping boy for the past eight years.  Bravo sir. I salute you. 

There have always been motherf*ckers, there will always be motherf*ckers, but what we can't do is let them control our motherf*cking lives. -John Oliver, December 1st, 2008

There have always been motherf*ckers, there will always be motherf*ckers, but what we can't do is let them control our motherf*cking lives. -John Oliver, December 1st, 2008

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I really didn't expect this to pass. I mean, do they know who they are up against? The combine strength of the film and videogame industries. Not only is this law overwhelmingly, retardedly without merit, the second they try to enforce it they will get slammed with a lawsuit, if not sooner. And the film and videogame industries have lawyers. Good ones. These guys have Jack Thompson and a bunch of crazy guys from Utah. It would be like bringing a wet noodle to a gun fight.

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and the Video game law Comes crashing Down(effectivly finishing it off and causing a waste of Taxpayer money, plunging Utah in the same boat as CA)

Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights

America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.

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I really didn't expect this to pass. I mean, do they know who they are up against? The combine strength of the film and videogame industries. Not only is this law overwhelmingly, retardedly without merit, the second they try to enforce it they will get slammed with a lawsuit, if not sooner. And the film and videogame industries have lawyers. Good ones. These guys have Jack Thompson.

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Re: Jack Thompson Bill Overwhelmingly Approved by Utah ...

Actually, in the event of a lawsuit, they would have an actual licensed lawyer... and depending on case, it may even be the AG who has to hold this law up in court

 
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