CBC To Air Investigative Report into Brandon Crisp Case Tonight

March 6, 2009 -

If preliminary reports are any indication, video games are in for a media beatdown on Canadian TV network CBC tonight.

News program the fifth estate will air an investigative piece on the tragic Brandon Crisp case at 9 P.M. Eastern. GamePolitics readers may recall that 15-year-old Brandon ran away from home following an October, 2008 dispute in which his parents confiscated his Xbox 360.

Brandon was an avid - his parents say addicted - Call of Duty 4 player and the early days of the investigation focused on the theories that he had either run away to join a professional gaming league or been abducted by someone he met on Xbox Live. In the end it turned out that Brandon had fallen from a tree not long after leaving home and died from injuries received in the fall.

The Globe and Mail previews the program:

Some kids get hooked on Guitar Hero, but the vast majority of gamers today spend more money — and time — on shockingly graphic search-and-destroy video games. Turning every violent teen male fantasy into reality, these games have a simple primal theme: kill, and kill again. And then keep killing...

"As a parent, I was shocked by how little I knew about this world," says [reporter Gillian Findlay]. "The violence of these games is so real and beauty of the graphics is almost overwhelming. You can see how seductive these games can be to teenage players..."

In an exclusive interview with Brandon's parents, taped between the time of his disappearance and the discovery of his body, the extent of their son's video-game obsession is revealed.

We're dismayed at what sounds like a cheap media manipulation:

MLG also operates big-ticket tournaments... Findlay sits down with the members of a Canadian team of professional gamers...

 

"When we talked to them, we had large monitors playing video-game footage as background, and you could see it: They couldn't take their eyes off the screens," says Findlay.

Did the reporter really conduct this interview in front of large monitors and then blame some kind of video game effect for the subjects' eyes wandering? Would it have been any different if a hockey game or House was running on those monitors? Maybe that's why most reporters don't conduct interviews with their subjects facing TV screens. They're, you know, distracting...

For those who don't get CBC, the episode will be available on the web at 10 p.m.

Looking for background on the case? GamePolitics covered Brandon's disappearance in great detail. Click here for all of our reports on the case.

GP: Thanks to numerous readers who alerted us to this story...

UPDATE: Steve Tilley, who covers video games for the Toronto Sun, has previewed the show and weighs in with his take:

There's a journalistic responsibility to become as informed as possible on a subject before speaking on it with authority, and [reporter Gillian] Findlay clearly has not.

I'm not talking about forgivable oversimplifications, but rather a glib, faux-concerned approach that treats teenaged gamers like slack-jawed addicts obsessed with virtual mass murder. It's demeaning not only to the majority of gamers for whom this is harmless recreation, but to the non-gaming viewing audience who might not know better...

It's lazy, cheap and disappointingly one-sided.

 


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Re: CBC To Air Investigative Report into Brandon Crisp Case

Not sure if anyone else has done this already(So... many... comments... must... have... AIR...) but here is the link to the comments:

http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/discussion/2009/03/top_gun.html

 

I am seriously... I can't even think of the right word to say.... it's sheer stupidity at it's finest in the so called "Report"(Can you really even call it that?)... all I heard was a misinformed idiot preaching Anti-Video Game propaganda along with... And there were so many... fallacies(I'm pretty sure I spelled it wrong) with what was shown on-screen and what they were talking about... it gives me a headache just thinking about it... I could go on all day ranting about it on GP but I'll just say this:

 

Did the parents ever actually sit down and play the game? EVER? Just turn on the 360 and play the Campaign or hop online? Because from the looks of it they never even touched the controller(Other than to take the 360 away).

 

They treated it like it was some unknown alien artifact that just kept him busy.

 

And here is also a direct link to the video(For the people that are to lazy to do it through the GP link, this one takes you directly to the video)

http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/2008-2009/top_gun/video.html

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I think these explain the whole video(I can't edit into my main post anymore )

 

 

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DidNotDoTheResearch

 

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MoralGuardians

 

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MediaWatchdog

 

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NewMediaAreEvil

 

 

(Not responsible for how much time you spend on Tv Tropes, be it 5 minutes or 5 hours).

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Re: CBC To Air Investigative Report into Brandon Crisp Case

CBC is, was and awalys will be a piece of S***, not watching it after the bad behaviour from the CBC people

Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights

America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.

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I'm upset. My lambasting comment never went through :(

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One person in the comments section Called the game companies funding terrorists(What a Dumbbell for that person, that is a lie, Radical musilms hate video games because it's is against Sharia law (see GP articles reguarding Islamic stupidity))

Anyone trying to outlaw Video games is stupid and making the crime rate raise to beyond 100%(Combine that with the drug war in mexico and we got a Extremley big Mess)

I think we should let Brandon crisp and daniel petric go in peace, everyone

Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights

America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.

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What was the name of his clan on Gamebattles again?  The one with no matches played?

 

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Offensively stupid through and through, and some of the comments smack of the same blind willingness to buy into bullshit that has plagued society for the last few years.

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WTF seriously...

 

apparently 'It took time skill and practice' but they 'received army training from a 'kindly cyber mentor'' (in game story cut scene with an scripted AI talking... nothing to do with 'training') 

and soon brandon crisp was 'emerging as a star' getting '6 or 7 kills per round'... (wtf.. star with.. what? you dont automatically play in tournaments.. and 6 or 7 kills per round.. 'a star' .. wtf?

 

all i cant say.. again.. WTF.

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i think they're talking about hardcore search and destroy.

there were many parts that made me lol.

I love how they made hardcore search sound so dangerous and "extreme".  it was so funny.

They made cod 4 seem like the ancient roman gladitorial battles.  I also loved how they blamded the MLG Ceo for letting under-17s play through their site.

As a whole, the program a pile of steaming hot bollocks.

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i think they're talking about hardcore search and destroy.

there were many parts that made me lol.

I love how they made hardcore search sound so dangerous and "extreme".  it was so funny.

They made cod 4 seem like the ancient roman gladitorial battles.  I also loved how they blamded the MLG Ceo for letting under-17s play through their site.

As a whole, the program a pile of steaming hot bollocks.

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wow. that was awful. that woman should not be an investigative journalist.

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I watched the first half of it before getting frustrated and just watching a movie.

She said at one point that game ratings were enforced by law in Ontario, which is false.

She also said that Call of Duty was what was refered to as an "FPS" in gaming circles, but then immediately called it a role playing game.

And she had some moron on there who was apparently a recovered "gaming addict", and this guy seemed like a total psycho.  "I get mad when I shoot them and they don't die.  When I shoot them in the head it feels good".

And the most frustrating part was when she was talking to a game industry representative who told her that most M rated games sold to minors were bought by parents, and the reporter said "well, there's no warning label on the box telling me that there is content in the game I don't want my children to see".  And then just totally ignored the woman when she told her the rating and content descriptors were right on the front of the box.

That really bothers me because games have the rating posted much more clearly than a movie does, plus they have content descriptors that allow you to get a sense of how far a game gets into teen type content or mature type content, but the way she talked about game labeling you could just tell she had never looked over a video game cover in her life but she still felt she had good reason to criticize the labeling on national TV.

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Oh, I remember that part. She said there was no warning about Mature games, which it does, and clears says infront of the box in big huge writing. The industry person said that, then Fifth Estate said that there is no way to tell want kind of content is in it, it doesn't say if it has blood or gore. Well, yes it does, in the back, with fairly huge writing, and much, much more prodominate then the movie ratings. They cut off and not allow the industry person to respond.

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''And the most frustrating part was when she was talking to a game industry representative who told her that most M rated games sold to minors were bought by parents, and the reporter said "well, there's no warning label on the box telling me that there is content in the game I don't want my children to see".  And then just totally ignored the woman when she told her the rating and content descriptors were right on the front of the box.''

 

UGH...

i cant stand things like that. My god.. all she had to do for 'research' was google ' video game content awareness' or ' how do i know a game is suitable' and she'd know about game ratings.

N you knw what else she could do? Even if ratings DIDNT exist... is she incapable of playing the game herself first before giving it to a kid? Hell most games you can see what the level of violence etc is going to be like in 1 minute playing. No excuse for her not doing that. NONE AT ALL.

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I basically yelled out "There is a rating on the box, and the descriptors are on the back". Some of these people need to have their ass kicked. As for Brandon's parents blaming themselves for getting the 360, the only thing they can blame themselves on is getting an M rated game like Call of Duty 4 for a 15 year old, and basically encouraging to play online by getting him an XBox Live account.

When Jack Thompson runs his mouth, does anyone really care what he has to say anymore?

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y'know what pissed me off most is when they said.. 'we'd often go into his room at night and find him playing at 3 am - we didntknow what to do!'

 

FFS.. DONT LET YOUR KID HAVE THE DAMN THING IN THEIR ROOM AT 3AM!

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Berg said:

"She said at one point that game ratings were enforced by law in Ontario, which is false."

Actually, that's true. Under the Ontario Film Classification Act and associated Regulations, retailers are prohibited from selling M-rated games to anyone under the age of 17 or AO-rated games to anyone under the age of 18. 

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Oh, good to know.  Couldn't find anything searching online.

It's a voluntary rating system though, so I assumed the government babysitting wouldn't be needed.

 

Hopefully the guy who runs the CBC boards is a gamer and all our comments make it through the censor.

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I just watched it, and what pissed me off the most were the gamers who went on the show. They should know that they're only providing ammo for these kinds of people. Also, when asked if he considered himself an athlete, a pro gamer they had on said he did. That really brought my piss to a boil. It's not that I think pro gaming should be considered any less prestegious than professional sports or competions, but it shouldn't be considered a sport, and its participants shouldn't be considered athletes. Frankly, that seems like it would be insulting to athletes and patronizing to gamers.

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I watched the show at 8EST (time shifting) and it was very one sided. I find it funny how they described Halo as a game of robots killing each other. They interviewed some random kids at a MLG event, and Fifth Estate said they came for the lastest video games as if it's E3, even though it was only Halo 3.

Where I had the most fun was how they tried to block team logos in the MLG videos, I could still tell what teams they are such as Str8 Rippin and Carbon.

Re: CBC To Air Investigative Report into Brandon Crisp Case

Not as bad as I thought. But they completely missed the investigative in Investigative Journalism.

Skip their show comment form, they will just filter/edit the messages. Tweet your mind @DocsCBC instead.

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Hey, why isn't this up on there site yet? It's almost 11.

And why are they called The Fifth Estate? How many branches of government do you Canadians have?

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Re: CBC To Air Investigative Report into Brandon Crisp Case ...

I always thought it was a reference to Robertson Davies' "Fifth Business."  I'm probably wrong tho. :D

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Re: CBC To Air Investigative Report into Brandon Crisp Case ...

Oh hey, they also did a report on the dangers of online virtual worlds recently. I might check that out later, but I'm more interested in the Crisp thing.

And here's how I know they're full of shit. They did a report about a guy who killed 4 Mounties, but everyone knows that no mortal weapon can kill a Mounty.

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I generally loathe journalists, a reason for creating my blog. They got a few good points, but that's because I know which points are good. However, this could be lost on the average person.

http://vgresearcher.wordpress.com/

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Wow I was expecting it to be bad, but it was EVEN WORSE than I imagined. At one point the reporter thought that the storyline of the Halo series of videogames was about "killing robots in the future" to paraphrase. Killing robots?!? Now what kind of "investigative" journalism is this? I call upon all Canadians to inform the CBC about the crap journalism on their channel.

http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/contact.html

Re: CBC To Air Investigative Report into Brandon Crisp Case

I saw the commercial for that episode and after seeing that, I knew it was going to be Anti-Gaming propaganda, but I never thought it would be THIS bad.

...and to think us Canadians are more innocent in video game issues compared to the UK and the US. The Fifth Estate is pretty much Canada's answer to America's Fox News or Britain's The Daily Mail.

My family watches CTV anyway, so take that CBC!

Re: CBC To Air Investigative Report into Brandon Crisp Case

And to close, they present clips from next week's show: a look inside a safe injection site in Vancouver for heroin addicts.  Coincidence?  Hmm.

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Re: CBC To Air Investigative Report into Brandon Crisp Case

Completely agree with Steve Tilley. I sent this comment along:

"Greetings,

I am quite shocked by this evening's episode. I expected a more balanced view on this issue. I am quite disappointed with this evening show. I thought Canadian reporting would be more responsible. For example, when the rating labels are talked about, it seems to be strongly suggested that game boxes doesnt do a good job of warning parents. The reality is, the warning label is very clear and the content descriptors on the back of the box clearly explains why the game is rated the way it is.

Furthermore, if the goal of the is to "warn" parents rather than sensationalize the issue, why is parental controls, available on every major console today, not even mentionned once?

Will somebody take responsability for this biased and sensationalist reporting? There was plenty of people who could have given you a balanced view on the issue. There is so much I could write. I hope somone can restore my faith in the Fifth Estate by answering this comment at the very least because I doubt a more balanced view will ever be reported".

I am terribly terribly disappointed with this evening's show. The Fifth Estate has become the canadian Fox News in my mind.

Re: CBC To Air Investigative Report into Brandon Crisp Case

I'm surprised anyone expected balance from these hacks. Then again I know many didn't see the hatchet job they did with the Benoit story back in 2007.

Re: CBC To Air Investigative Report into Brandon Crisp Case

9:15 -- "Brandon Crisp was pulled from hockey by his dad, then found video games."
9:45 -- "Brandon Crisp loved hockey until video games sucked him away."

Pure hypocricy.

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I live in Toronto, Canada and will tune in tonight to watch this. The CBC is usually known for their one-sided reporting on issues like the Middle East and other supposedly 'left-wing' causes. This is unfortunate, and while it's not all that bad, the sad thing is that the CBC is much like PBS in the states in that it runs off of viewer money. However in our case, the CBC is run solely off our tax dollars and therefore canadians have no real choice in the matter. I will post a reply with a rundown of what transpired during the show.

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I sent off an email to the writer of the Globe and Mail article, so here is a copy of it so you guys can agree or rip me to shreds, either or.

 

I found the article that you wrote for the Globe and Mail about the Fifth Estate's coverage of Brandon Crisp was incredibly one sided.  He may well have become obsessed with the game, however it was rated M for mature, such games are designed for people of ages 17 and older.  Parents do not have to buy the game for their children, and while some kids may be able to purchase it anyway, the FTC has indications that it is currently harder to buy an M rated game if one is under the required age than it is to buy an R rated movie ticket or DVD or even an unrated DVD. [http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2008/05/secretshop.shtm]  As well to play the X-Box online, which is the primary purpose of games such as Call of Duty, an X-Box live account is required.  Brandon had access to an X-Box live account that was being payed for by his father. [http://www.gamertell.com/gaming/comment/runaway-call-of-duty-4-player-brandon-crisp-found-dead/]  His parents at least somewhat facilitated his playing of Call of Duty, which according to the ESRB rating he should not have been playing.  I am, however, by no means blaming the parents for Brandon's death.  My point is simply that children will have arguments with their parents and run away over a multitude of things.  Blaming his death on Call of Duty is like blaming the death of a child who runs away because they do not wish to clean their room on normal parenting.

    In addition, although first person shooters, as the genre is called, do make up a large part of the market for successful games, their objective can hardly be reduced to whoever has the most "kills" wins.  In certain games, such as the Battlefield franchise, people can achieve extremely high scores, including the top three positions, having fired very few shots.  Theoretically, and I am sure that this has happened, one can achieve the top position without firing a single shot.  The games may involve trying to 'kill' the other team, however they also contain a strong element of teamwork.  In fact, many first person shooters have a play mode called capture the flag in which, although the exact method varies, winning always revolves around capturing the flag.  The only 'killing' essential to a team's victory is preventing an opponent from capturing one's team's flag, distracting the opponent so a member of one's team can obtain the enemy's flag, or for recovery of one's team's flag from the enemy.  There is much more to many of these games than "kill, and kill again. And then keep killing."  Teamwork is highly involved.

One last thing, these games do not turn "every violent teen male fantasy into reality" they simply display the fantasy in a different medium.  I would argue that the competition is the focus and primary draw.

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Well never mind got the email bounced back, wouldn't accept the address.  Tried a couple times then sent it to their tech support so they could be made aware of the issue and one to the general newsroom address instead.

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I wouldn't worry too much. CBC is having financial problems, and most people would be watching other shows, not wasting their time on Fifth Estate.

When Jack Thompson runs his mouth, does anyone really care what he has to say anymore?

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So while the news crews, family, and search party were busy blaming video games, the kid was falling to his death. Even after the fact, they're still blaming video games. Great job, guys.

What's the real problem, though? If the kid was truly addicted to games, he wouldn't think of running into the wilderness without them. So what problems at home are we not knowing about? Are his parents hiding something and using Video Games as a cover-up?

...I would normally say "At least JT hasn't reared his ugly head yet", but he will soon enough, so why bother?

 

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I was wondering if anyone noticed that on the Fifth Estate website they have discussion forums for each show (the one for this episode wasn't up yet when I checked earlier.) I'm hoping that people here will join the discussion and help get across the other side of the story.

I am ashamed in CBC right now, I can't believe my country's most influential station will be airing this inflammatory garbage tonight.   

P.S. I haven't posted here in ages, I need to get back in the swing of things! 

Re: CBC To Air Investigative Report into Brandon Crisp Case

Here's the Fifth Estate website... you can "contact them" at the top.

http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/

However, I would emplore everyone to watch it before commenting.  We wouldn't want to be hypocrites like Cooper Lawrence, would we?

 

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Re: CBC To Air Investigative Report into Brandon Crisp Case

I would love to be a hypocrite like Cooper Lawrence. Getting to say whatever you want without worrying about the consequences and then having everyone forgive you sounds like a great gig.

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I wonder if this little punk would have ran away and died after his parents told him to clean his room would there be a huge outcry against making kids do daily chores? According to this interview the answer is YES. Well there goes the validity of CBS's arguement!

"With free speech either all of it is ok or none of it is." Kyle Broflovski

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Brandon fell out of a tree.  It still baffels me that anyone could blame his death on the reason he walked out the door.

 

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Yeah! Fuck trees!

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We must seek vengeance on trees. It's only a matter of time before they strike agaisnt all of us like in The Happening.

IMA FIRIN MAH LASER!!!

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Falls from trees don't bring in advertising money.

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Re: CBC To Air Investigative Report into Brandon Crisp Case

Yeah... so are war games as shockingly violent as say, any WW2 movie you've ever seen? Since when was killing Nazis and terrorists as a soldier considered a bad thing?

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I'm sorry, but when you go to a place where they play anything competitively, they will always be distracted.  Interview a baseball player while a game is going on WHILE on the bench and they'll be distracted just as much as the next guy.

Search and Destroy Video Games?  Thats a new one.  You can swing it any way you want, it's always going to come up the same way.  Bullshit.

I'm not a fan of House but I know i'd be distracted.  Hell, I'm always distracted when I walk past a TV thats on.  Sometimes those commercials can be funny...

 

I'll see how they try and spit this story out, but I know its going to be too much to clog a toilet.

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I thought we had heard the end of this when the parents said that they didn't blame videogames. Jeez, this really never ends. And the sad part is that none of these networks actually care one bit about the topic. They just go after what will get them ratings.

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Well, if it's worth anything, I'd watch it if I were Canadian. Just for the laughs.

 

Re: CBC To Air Investigative Report into Brandon Crisp Case

CBC is, and has been for a long time, a completely garabge network. They wonder why they are in financial trouble when they use the EXACT SAME crap producers and narrators for every single fucking commerical on the station. Not to mention most of the shows they produce are garbage with D-list actors. Then for the one thing they are strong at, news reporting, they still manage to fuck up by doing stuff like this. It's amazing they still exist.

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Here's the Toronto Sun's preview of The Fifth Estate's report, which they call "lazy, cheap and disappointingly one-sided":

http://www.torontosun.com/entertainment/columnists/steve_tilley/2009/03/...

An excerpt:

Where tonight's The Fifth Estate succeeds is in exploring why Brandon Crisp might have become so addicted to Call Of Duty 4. A smart kid with a drive to succeed in all things, he was too small to do well in his beloved hockey. Video games became his substitute for sports, something he could excel at competitively, albeit to the detriment of a normal life away from his Xbox.

Where it fails is by laying an unreasonable amount of blame at the feet of the video games industry, the games rating board and the professional gaming leagues and sponsors that offer cash prizes to the tiny percentage of gamers with the skill to get paid to play.

"What happens," Findlay intones gravely, "when all that marketing might reaches into our children's bedrooms, hands them a sniper rifle and an assassin's mission, and promises fame, not to mention fortune, to those who kill their way to the top?"

Meanwhile, parents -- the ultimate arbiters of what entertainment is allowed in the home -- get off virtually scot-free, despite blithely ignoring game ratings (and common sense) by buying violent, mature-themed titles for their kids to play.

 
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NeenekoIf people want tall buildings, plenty of other cities with them. Part of freedom and markets is communities deciding what they do and do not want built in their collective space.04/17/2014 - 12:55pm
Sora-ChanI realize that they have ways getting around it, but one reason might be due to earthquakes.04/17/2014 - 4:42am
Matthew WilsonSF is a tech/ economic/ trade center it should be mostly tail building. this whole problem is because of the lack of tail buildings. How would having tail apartment buildings destroy SF? having tail buildings has not runed other cities around the US/world04/16/2014 - 10:51pm
Matthew WilsonAgain the issue is you can not build upwards anywhere in SF at the moment, and no you would not. You would bring prices to where they should have been before the market distortion. those prices are not economic or socially healthy.04/16/2014 - 10:46pm
ZippyDSMleeYou still wind up pushing people out of the non high rise aeras but tis least damage you can do all things considered.04/16/2014 - 10:26pm
ZippyDSMleeANd by mindlessly building upward you make it like every place else hurting property prices,ect,ect. You'll have to slowly segment the region into aeras where you will never build upward then alow some aeras to build upward.04/16/2014 - 10:25pm
 

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