Australia's Atkinson Chides "R18+ Nerds" in Letter to Newspaper

March 11, 2009 -

As GamePolitics readers know, South Australian Attorney-General Michael Atkinson has been blocking the adoption of an R18+ video game rating for some time.

That's despite the fact that an R18+ for movies has been in existence for years Down Under.

But it appears that Atkinson may be feeling the heat a bit. A letter written by the AG and published in the Adelaide Advertiser is a bit, well, over the top:

A Queensland letter writer... claims that democracy is at an end because I, as Attorney-General, will not agree to an R18+ category for interactive computer games... It is true that I am opposed to an R18+ category for interactive games, but I am one of at least four Attorneys so opposed.

 

I welcome [an election] challenge... on this issue. Among my constituents are hundreds of refugees who are trying to find lodgings for the family, gain employment and sponsor relatives from the old country.

 

Their vote is hardly likely to hinge on the "right" to score gamer points... by running down and killing pedestrians on the pavement, raping a mother and her two daughters, blowing oneself up in a market, cutting people in half with large calibre shells, injecting drugs to win an athletics event or killing a prostitute to recover the fee one just paid her (Welcome to the world of R18+ computer games).

 

Those of my constituents who are refugees have been subjected to the practical instead of the virtual suffering that R18+ nerds seek to inflict for their gratification on the computer screen.

Via: Kotaku


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Augh people. Stop mentioning Rapelay, its not available on the Western market. Japan has thousands of sadistic sexually graphic games, get over it. It has no effect on the rest of the world.

 

So stretching the truth, lying, and then disrespecting a group of citizens. What a professional!

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Wasn't there a time where it was considered common practice to hang or behead public officials who did not share the common consensus of the citizens? My how politicians have become complacent with their abilities to enforce ignorance.

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The letter he is replying to was from me, spurred by the recent article on gamerpolitics. I was furious and determined to write a terribly cross letter to Mr Atkinson, then quickly decided that would be a complete waste of effort and realised that that way to get to a politician is through the media in his electorate. So I did a search for South Australian newspapers and then sent the following to the Advertiser. I have no way of knowing exactly what they printed, but this is exactly what I sent, with the gamerpolitic link in the hope the paper would become interested in this years-old ongoing farce.

"I am disgusted that South Australia's Michael Atkinson continues to prevent democratic process in Australia on ratings systems reform, because he knows that by deliberately dragging chain he can get his way - the way of no reform at all - when every other state AG and a majority of informed citizens are against him.

I can only hope that the people of South Australia return democracy to the whole country via the only avenue he is giving us - by voting him out.


http://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/03/...ing-r18-rating "

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The letter mentioned in the Kotaku Australia article was mine:

http://www.kotaku.com.au/games/2009/03/atkinson_addresses_r18_rating_kotaku_reader_responds.html

and Atkinson responded to at Kotaku here:

http://www.kotaku.com.au/games/2009/03/michael_atkinson_writes_to_kotaku.html

 

It's an extraordinary response even for him, and I'd urge any concerned Aussie to make complaint to Atkinson's boss, South Australian Premier Mike Rann and other relevent parliamentarians, as has been suggested here:

http://pcpowerplay.com.au/forums/showpost.php?p=2668998&postcount=314

Australia's Big Wussy Atkinson Whines Over"R18+ Nerds" in Letter

I think it's safe to say that Michael Atkinson can be called a Metropolitian Moron of the entire continent of Australia.

I issue my own two challenges to Atkinson:

1) Since he's such a big pile of Grade-A monkey crap, I challenge Atkinson to flush himself down the commode.

2) I challenge Atkinson to have the testicular fortitude to step aside and allow the discussion on R-18 that he's afraid of.

Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Hornets, Jack Thompson can geaux chase a chupacabra.

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The more restrictions government places on the people the mroe it has to spend to force the people in their place.

 


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You can describe Atkinson in one word: Dogmatic

 

The way he cherry picks certain gaming elements and writes about them as though the key focus of all adult games is limited only to these six examples, makes him look extremely ignorant and unprofessional. He then proceeds to use them to peddle his view in a very sensationalist manner which really does mirror Jack Thompson in every way. I mean honestly, we don't have to debunk his view anymore, we all know what he says is laughably stupid and why. But if you focus on HOW he conveys his view, you really can't help but come to the conclusion that he is Australia's Jack Thompson in a position of power.

 

What I find most astounding though is that he goes on to generalize and misrepresent supporters of an R18+ rating by calling them nerds and basically dismissing them because he knows if he misrepresents the argument to the SA population he will be voted in once again. What the hell do refugees have to do with any of this? By his logic just because problem A is worse than problem B, problem B should be negated. What a load of rubbish. This reminds me of people who say I shouldn’t complain about getting evicted from my house because people in Africa are starving. Is this guy capable of putting together a REAL argument instead of mindless name calling and misrepresenting the facts? It's disgusting how condescending and immature he is towards those who disagree with him. He has little to no respect for gamers. Worst of all he can't even convey his view in a mature, professional way like most other politicians. He has to spit the dummy and act like a 5 year old. It's not only 'R18+ nerds' who are in favor of it, a multi-billion dollar industry is in favor of it. Fact is Atkinson and the brainwashed people of South Australia who keep voting for him are the minority. The rest of the country is in support of the measure. It's about time he stopped pissing on democracy and gave the people what they want. Taking advantage of the fact you’re in a position of power and have the ability to force your personal views upon everybody due to the fact you've brainwashed your voters by misrepresenting the facts, is not democracy. It's called a dictatorship. But just take a look at the state of South Australia. It's arguably the state which offers the least quality of life, the weakest local economy, the worst local government and the most conservative/regressive place in the country. I should know, I moved out of the place 4 years ago.  Thank god I don’t reside in that Police State anymore.

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"Those of my constituents who are refugees have been subjected to the practical instead of the virtual suffering that R18+ nerds seek to inflict for their gratification on the computer screen."

In a free society, the inflicting of virtual suffering should be the right of people over 18 years of age.  You weren't elected into power to serve only those that agree with your line of thinking.  If you don't think it costs your country, I've turned down two programming jobs over there in my 12 years in the game industry because of the variable nature of freedom in Australia.  Would have been cool to live in Sydney, but not until you are voted out comrade.  

 

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So...game companies migrate out of austrailia and set up subsidaries in countries that don't give a flaming fuck about austrailian law, then use those subsidaries to aggressively market R18+ games into austrailia, which turns the austrailian video game business into a national import and loses the country even more money and contributes to 'brain drain'.

Because there is no applicable ratings system to these imported games they get more and more violent and intense-as humans tend to push boundaries, and video games are a human product-and it becomes neccasary to train dogs to sniff out video games being shipped internationally, this gets extremely expensive extremely fast.

This leads to a massive flocking to internet transactions and downloads, which are promptly blocked by the government, leading to 60% slower internet speeds as people learn to switch to darknets and proxies-much like the chinese. People get pissed off as their internet becomes even MORE unreliable (My austrailian friends..their 'broadband' is about the speed of a tethered cell phone here, and only just as reliable.)

After all is said and done there is a ton of additional government regulation costing the taxpayers multiple billions of dollars, austrailia's lost a major source of income, most of its gamers are considered criminals by the government, and begin to act as expected of criminals, and there's been no lasting impact on violent video game distribution.

 

How's that for a sequence of events? Does it sound unreasonable? Remember the U.S. prohibition era! Austrailia is probably the only other country with the same rebellious streak as the U.S., considering its founding.

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What "game" is he talking about? One that wouldn't be covered by the rating anyways if it even existed? 

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"Those of my constituents who are refugees have been subjected to the practical instead of the virtual suffering that R18+ nerds seek to inflict for their gratification on the computer screen."

Wow! I think Atkinson has managed to invent a new logical fallacy: argumentum ad refugium.

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I'm English and I never realised how great lack of censorship could be until I moved to the US.  Britain and Australia could do with a law protecting freedom of expression.

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There has been the bill of rights, and also a bill for Humanity issues too.

Both have yet to pass the Australian Government for how many years?

Also back in the John Howard years, he was more wanting to stop refugees coming into the country and also used the Terrorism issue to scare people with it.

TBoneTony

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Doesn't he look a bit like Jack?

Alien conspiracy perhaps?

Re: Australia's Atkinson Chides "R18+ Nerds" in Letter to

All these white haired "culture warriors" look alike to me.

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Just take care, they may pull a fast one on us and have one from their crusade dye their hair to walk among us unseen.


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Hrm....

Well, for anyone wondering what would happen if Jack Thompson ever got any real power, here ya go.

*shudders*

Wonder if there's ever been any correspondence there.

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Nerds vote too, jackass.

Australia's Big Wussy Atkinson Whines Over"R18+ Nerds" in Letter

Wonder if Wussbag Atkinson ever seen the movie "Revenge of the Nerds"? He should know that the Nerds win in the end.

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I wish that nerds going on strike scenario would happen, then he'd realize who he's insulting.

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But it appears that Atkinson may be feeling the heat a bit.

Then, let´s burn him good.

 

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Lying authoritarian bastards should not be elected for major political positions.

If you go crazy then I will still call you Superman.

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And yet they always are...

Re: Australia's Atkinson Chides "R18+ Nerds" in Letter to

They're usually the only ones running.

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We should sic the Spanish Inquisition on their ass.

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NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!!

Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Hornets, Jack Thompson can geaux chase a chupacabra.

Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Pelicans. Solidarity for the Saints = No retreat, no surrender. 2013 = Saints' revenge on the NFL. Even through the darkest days, this fire burns always.

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*sighs* its people like Atkinson that are slowly eroding my faith in humanity

How is letting 15 year old kids play game that would (and should) be rated 17-18+ a good idea? Because that's all you're doing by not allowing a higher rating for games. You would think that this wouldn't even be an issue!

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"Refugees" play 18+ games all day? Huh? Whargarble! Whargarble! Whargarble!

He makes about as much sense as a US politician.

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Huh? Are you reading the same thing? No Refugees don't play games. That is kind of his point.

 

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It would just be poetic justice is that nerd comment caused nearyl every government hired IT person to go on strike, damaging the infrastructure heavily.

Nerds are one of those demographics that you always devalue until your computer breaks down and you can't fix it by beating it.

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Oh SNAP! He done called people nerds! Total burn!

 

I'll get back to ya when you stop having adult games shoehorned into a teen category and marketed to minors, whilst simultaneously bitching about those violent games being played by minors.

Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

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Always thought being a politician was a case of trying to work with the majority without ignoring the minority, not completely ignoring the majority because you have a personal chip on your shoulder.

 

So because he's jumped to a load of assumptions about Video Games, everyone else has to live by them?

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I think he's right that democracy is not at an end just because he won't allow the 18+ rating to go through. It's clear that democracy is going strong, and that's the problem. Democracy failed when a disgusting pile of trash like him was given any power whatsoever. And I love how he refers to the people who support the 18+ rating as nerds. What a guy.

But seriously, I hope he dies. Painfully.

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So he disallows three other Attorneys to disagree with him by refusing to submit his part, then claims they agree with him? Is anyone going to bother to tell those guys he's using their forced silence (by him!) as excuse to speak in their place?

 

Seriously, the guy is a liar. Expose him as the fraud he is and ask all others to give their own opinion, so he can't lie about them anymore.

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Long before I started reading GP, I always wanted to go and live in AUS because I seemed to relate better with the bluntness of the women there better than I do here in my own country.

Every time I read an article talking about the refusal of an R18+ rating that is being imposed down there in that supposedly free coutry is really makes me glad I live here in the states, albiet...we have other issues of our own that I dislike.

However, as long as I have the ability to vent my frustraitions out on a computer screen by mowing down pedestrians at high speeds and killing prostitues to get my money back, I don't see myself visiting let alone living down there.

Does this guy not know the joy of playing GTA just because you feel like just cruising around as fast as you want and breaking the traffic laws without getting into any trouble that a new paint job can't fix? What about the sheer joy you get from the game Painkiller, when you use the steak launcher and pin a bad guy to the wall by just his hand?

How is what I just described any different than riding a rollercoaster for the excitement or watching a horror movie so you can feel scared just for the exhilaration of it?

Judging by what I've read, he hasn't even _tried_ to look into these games for their real enjoyment value -- doing things that aren't lawfully acceptable in the real world.

It sickens me that this guy would block a rating just because he is "protecting the children", but then to insult the citizens in your own country...that's just low.

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Wow, I guess the Australian movie business must get away a lot to have raping mothers and children. ESRB would just slap an AO on those kind of stuff.

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I get the feeling he loved to beart up "nerds' in school and never quite grew out of it.

And if you have to resort to lies and insults to win an argument, as a certain other nerd hater often does, then you don't have an argument ot begin with.

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Maybe all the dislike emitting from the gamers down under will result in him having a heart attack or stroke. Seeing as how it would be more likely than him growing half a brain

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So basically he's say "Screw freedom, I don't like it so I'm going to do what I want."

 

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"I do what I want!"

First thing I thought off when I read your comment. 

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Here's the photoshopped Atkinson

 

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You should see a reply to Mr Atkinson's point of view from an 57 year old Grand Father


Face the real world yourself, Mr. Atkinson!
Recently S.A. Attorney-General Michael Atkinson wrote a diatribe of misinformation in support of his stance against the extension of the R18+ Classification category to video games. It was published as a "Letter to the Editor" in the Adelaide Advertiser on 10th March, 2009, under the title "Face the Real World".

Firstly, Mr. Atkinson claims that there are four other Attorneys-General who endorse his opposition to the measure. In the past, Mr. Atkinson has even gone so far as to claim that he's been asked by other Attorneys-General to be the 'spokesman' in relation to the matter. Not so, Mr. Atkinson. Fact of the matter is that, currently, both the Victorian and the A.C.T. Attorneys-General have publicly expressed 'in principle' support for the measure, and no other Attorney-General apart from yourself has publicly stated any position whatsoever in this matter.

Next, Mr. Atkinson goes on to suggest that the matter is one which is unimportant to the 'refugee' voters within his constituency, and that he is happy to face an election on the matter to have his stance judged by his constituents. Excuse me, Mr. Atkinson, but I'd have thought your responsibility in your role as Attorney-General was to ALL the people in your State, not just to your supporters amongst your own constituency.

Worst of all, though, Mr. Atkinson utterly misrepresents the entire debate regarding the extension of R18+ classification to video games. He describes the supporters of such a move as 'R18+ nerds' who "seek to inflict their gratification on the computer screen" by "running down and killing pedestrians on the pavement, raping a mother and her two daughters, blowing oneself up in a market, cutting people in half with large calibre shells, injecting drugs to win an athletic event, or killing a prostitute to recover the fee one just paid her." Mr. Atkinson justifies his stance, and has done so for a long time now, with the contention that he is concerned with "protecting the children".

There are some serious flaws with Mr. Atkinson's line of argument. For starters, of the examples of offensive content he has mentioned, most would fall within the allowable scope of our current classification system for the 'MA15+' classification rating. One would be "Refused Classification" even if the R18+ rating was applied to video games as well as to movies and other media. His mention of a game in which the objective is (in his words) "raping a mother and her two daughters" relates to a videogame title made only for the Japanese marketplace, not intended for distribution anywhere in the world other than Japan, and of a nature which would be 'Refused Classification' under our classification system no matter what classification rating it was submitted to occupy. Mention of it in Mr. Atkinson's missive is an exercise in outright deceit!

Another major flaw in Mr. Atkinson's line of argument is that 'video gamers' aren't nowadays simply children who are 'seeking gratification' by accumulating points in a video game. A third is his continued contention that the 'interactivity' of video games makes them a more 'high risk' form of media than others.

Let's counter those claims. To begin with, research has demonstrated that the 'average gamer' in this country is not a kid playing arcade-style shoot-em-ups to accumulate 'points'. It has been conclusively demonstrated that the 'average gamer' is an adult in his or her late 20s. The video gaming community has matured. 8% or more of that community is 60+ yrs of age. We're really talking about an activity which is predominately engaged in by mature adults. Those mature adults are not, I might add, simply playing computer games which are simplistic arcade-style shoot-em-ups. Mr. Atkinson is erroneous if he thinks so. Computers and game consoles alike have become quite sophisticated technologically, allowing the production of game titles which are genuinely 'literary' in style. Which allow the exploration of themes, and which can be (and sometimes are) used as the basis of literary appreciation and education. Come to grips with it, please Mr. Atkinson. It's a new world out there, and you don't seem to be aware of it!

The contention that the 'interactivity' of video games makes them 'trainers' for anti-social behaviour and even causes anti-social behaviour is an unsupportable one. No study whatsoever has demonstrated this contention to be a correct one. Please don't insult our intelligence by making claims which simply aren't true. It might be a 'popular' misconception, but its popularity doesn't lend it any credence nevertheless.

Most alarming of all, however, is the erroneous contention that the absence of an R18+ classification for video games somehow "protects children" by removing their potential exposure to adult material. The classification system and mechanisms we currently have in place and in effect DOES NOT protect children by placing strongly adult-oriented materials into an R18+ classification. Treatment of those strongly adult-oriented themes currently gets placed into the MA15+ classification rating. It does so for ALL forms of media. It is fundamentally and profoundly WRONG to suggest that not having an R18+ classification for games 'protects' children.

The truth is that our current systems and mechanisms of content classification are flawed, and they have not been reviewed for some years now. Rather than being a genuinely informative 'guide' for parents to follow when assessing content which is suitable or otherwise for their children, our content classification system places "strongly adult themed" content into a classification ranking which parents all too often miscomprehend as meaning "suitable for 15 and over age group". The only content we deem to be "adults only" is the extreme. The most explicit of sexual depictions. The explicit and extended treatment of gory and/or ghoulish content.

It's also true that the mature-minded video gaming community is well aware of just how flawed our system of classification is. Rather than simply calling for "more titties and blood" in video games our gaming community is really calling for a revamp of the ratings classification system in this country. For a system which genuinely informs parents of the content their children gain access to. For an 'adult' classification which is used and reflects truly 'adult' content.

The next meeting of the Standing Committee of Attorneys-General is due to be held next month sometime. The matter of video game censorship classification is scheduled to be raised again at that meeting. The previous such meeting called for a 'Discussion paper' to be tabled for consideration. We can only hope that Discussion paper treats the matter with the mature consideration it deserves, and that Mr. Atkinson will adopt a 'mature' approach to it. Any alteration to the Classifications system requires the unanimous support of all Attorneys-General.

It's difficult to hold out hope though. In a recent missive to Gamespot Australia, Mr. Atkinson not only betrayed his utter misunderstanding of the call for a genuine R18+ classification rating for video games here in Australia. He also bewailed his own children's video gaming activities as a "physical and emotional obsession". Goodness me, Mr. Atkinson. I've seen a lot of video gaming over a lifetime, but I've not often seen it become such an alarming pastime for people. Is there perhaps something amiss in your household, and you're projecting your floundering ability to deal with it onto me? How about attend to your own hearth. Mine's fine!

Like many other 'video gamers' I deplore the current situation, whereby parents are misled into thinking that "strongly adult" content is somehow suitable for all persons 15 and over. It doesn't really matter to me if the interaction with the media is active or passive. If strongly adult themes are explored in an adult-oriented mature fashion then the content should be denoted as such. The labelling of it with an 'MA15+' rating does not have that impact and Mr. Atkinson has, on numerous occasions in the past, acknowledged the fact.

By continuing his rather obstinate opposition to change, Mr. Atkinson is not, in actuality, "protecting the children". He is endorsing the very system which lends itself to making adult content already available to them!

Terry O'Shanassy
(Terry is a 57 year old grandparent of 8, a number of whom are young video gamers. He lists video gaming as one of his leisure activities alongside fishing, camping, and cycling.)

TBoneTony

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That guy just tore Atkinson a new one. Not that it matters. Man, I really wish people like this were in charge. Too bad they usually have too much dignity to perform the necessary amount of ass-kissing to become such powerful elected officials.

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*CLAPS* Bravo. Well spoken.

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I was considering writing a point-by-point rant about how this guy is wrong and a horrible human being.  But you know what?  Fuck this guy.  It's not worth the time anymore.  Trying to convince this man of anything beyond his narrow, idiotic point of view is like trying to convince the local looney that aliens aren't trying to take his brain.

The more you try to argue or inform, the harder and more asshole-ish he becomes.

 

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That is because Mr Atkinson is just like J. Thompson, K. Vass and many other political scum who lie to people who don't know anything about videogames.

Also you don't need to do a point by point letter, A certain 57 year old has already done a great job at that if you can read from a few messages below.

TBoneTony

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So...eh...to any Aussies reading this, you CAN vote this guy out soon right?

 

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G'day mate.

Yeah, we can vote him out.

But there is one problem about that.

He is only in South Australia, so that state's election is expected in 2010.

Only time will tell though, but sadly TV news shows like Today Tonight and ACA are known for sensationalism and they would only side with stories that give them the most newsworthy information.

I can remember just last week, ACA was all over this guy who was accused of being a parent to kids from 8 women. Even his own mother was bad mouthing about him.

And when he had the DNA test done, all the women pulled out because of some strange reason they did not want his DNA to be tested with their children.

And now the ACA are all on the guys good side.

Really pathetic how these programs are done.

Also a few reporters from ACA are going to court because one of the reporters pretended to be a hitman to kill someone.

lol

The law should also clamp down on the lies that Mr Atkinson is spewing, but no one is even listening to us because no one wants to hear our side.

But the gamers in South Australia can be heard on Election day by  simply voting for Liberal.

Plus the Liberal party accross every state says that wall to wall Labor is bad for Australia.

But this also means trouble for Vic and ACT who do support the R18+ rating for Videogames because they are also Labor too.

Well only time and clear heads will tell.

TBoneTony

Re: Australia's Atkinson Chides "R18+ Nerds" in Letter to ...

Not 100% true.

The office of Attorney-general is selected by the premier of the state. On an election of a new Premier, they may decide to change (or the current one could change him whenever they want to.)

So while electing a new Premier generally will get this changed, it'll only change if whoever gets elected wants to change them.

Re: Australia's Atkinson Chides "R18+ Nerds" in Letter to ...

Such a horrible human.

abusing gamers all because he can.

and such disprespect to even mention what looks like an example of Rapelay, a game that would need to have an X18+ rating to cater for it, not an R18+ one.

Also refering to anything in GTA without realising that GTA in Australia is rated MA15+ is surely missing a reletively important point.

What a horrible man,

 

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