Following a lively debate, the Utah State Senate has passed HB 353 by a 25-4 margin.
The bill, originally drafted by disbarred Miami attorney Jack Thompson, was amended in the Utah Senate prior to this evening's vote.
Because the bill was amended by the Senate, it now goes back to the Utah House which must approve the changes. That step must be completed by midnight when the current legislative session ends.
Sen. Margaret Dayton (R), the measure's sponsor in the Senate, is seen at left speaking about HB 353 during the just-completed debate.
During the debate, Sen. Scott McCoy (D) called the bill a square peg in a round hole. While saying that he personally found Grand Theft Auto disgusting, McCoy also feared that the measure is an inappropriate use of Utah's Truth in Advertising statute and that it will be subject to challenge on constitutional grounds.
Speaking in support of HB 353 was Sen. Chris Buttars (R). The controversial Republican cited the well-known case of Devin Moore, a GTA player who killed two police officers and a dispatcher in 2003. Before being removed from the case by an Alabama judge, Jack Thompson was involved in a wrongful death lawsuit against Rockstar, Sony, Wal-Mart and GameStop based on Moore's rampage.
Assuming that the House approves the Senate amendment, which seems likely, the measure will proceed to Gov. Jon Huntsman. The Governor may sign it into law or veto the measure.




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Re: BREAKING: Utah Senate Passes Video Game Bil
Its nice to know the great state of Utah is more worried about video games than lets say.....THE ECONOMY AND THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE. Right now this country is on the verge of economic collapse and all these clowns are more worried about a ridiculous gaming bill created by a nutjob and for that I hope Utah's economy goes down the toilet so I can just sit back and laugh my head off.
Re: BREAKING: Utah Senate Passes Video Game Bil
Does obama's Stimilus bill cover the fact that if you make unconstutional Laws and cause a state to loose the money in legal fees, then they're not covered
Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights
America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.
Re: BREAKING: Utah Senate Passes Video Game Bil
Feel really bad for you lads in the usa, this kind of stupidity is shocking. I am quite worried that the attitudes that are effecting decisions like this will spread to the UK. Why is it complete wankers always get there way?.
Re: BREAKING: Utah Senate Passes Video Game Bil
Well, crap. Utah's gonna pay a lot of legal fees when they loose this case.
Re: BREAKING: Utah Senate Passes Video Game Bil
So what was the change the Senate made? Did they make it weaker in a hopless attempt to save it from the courts?
Re: BREAKING: Utah Senate Passes Video Game Bil
They ammended it to state that just having ratings displayed was not an actual advertisement to enforce the ratings.
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Re: BREAKING: Utah Senate Passes Video Game Bil
I'm looking at the bill and Dayton's amendment wasn't in the finalized bill. It's only listed as "prepared" and not "passed". The only thing she added to the bill was the "by presenting false age identification" part.
No wonder that the House didn't object to the Senate's slight change. It's a shame that her amendment wasn't added in there(and it should have and if it was, the clock would have run out on this pile of shit), but in the end it probably won't matter since it will most likely be ruled unconstitutionally broad in court.
Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Hornets, Jack Thompson can geaux chase a chupacabra.
Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Hornets. Solidarity for the Saints = No retreat, no surrender. Even through the darkest days, this fire burns always.
Re: BREAKING: Utah Senate Passes Video Game Bil
2 options:
1: It is, as JDKJ said, treated as "it doesn't say it in the law but it sure is the way reality is" by courts.
2: It is decided the law doesn't say it and thus is unfair, so the thing gets busted.
Re: BREAKING: Utah Senate Passes Video Game Bil
Well if that part isn't in the bill, it only makes it more likely that it'll fail in courts. I doubt courts would look kindly on forced carding for a non age restricted product.
Re: BREAKING: Utah Senate Passes Video Game Bil
http://www.gameslaw.net/2009/03/12/breaking-utah-hb-353-amended-in-utah-senate/
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Re: BREAKING: Utah Senate Passes Stupid Video Game Bill
Not quite over yet, but the clock is still ticking.
It's disgusting that certain idiots continue to use the fraudulent Alabama case to justify passing this piece of shit bill.
At least 4 senators saw through the bullshit.
Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Hornets, Jack Thompson can geaux chase a chupacabra.
Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Hornets. Solidarity for the Saints = No retreat, no surrender. Even through the darkest days, this fire burns always.
Re: BREAKING: Utah Senate Passes Video Game Bil
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So, out of all the laws to pass this is what they do?
Re: BREAKING: Utah Senate Passes Video Game Bil
Well, they did also manage to pass the Third Conviction for Lewdness (a Misdemeanor) is a Felony Conviction and Requires 10 Years of Registration as a Sex Offender Law.
Re: BREAKING: Utah Senate Passes Video Game Bil
Which is also on the forums right now(as Crazy Utah)
Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights
America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.
Re: BREAKING: Utah Senate Passes Video Game Bil
Can you imagine trying to explain that that reason you're a registered sex offender is that you got caught once necking with your girlfriend in a parked car and twice walking past the sliding glass doors of your house butt-naked? Ain't nobody hearing that -- even though it's the God's honest truth.
Re: BREAKING: Utah Senate Passes Video Game Bil
Once the Govenor signs it everyone in the Movie, music and game industry will release the PWNAGE
Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights
America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.
Re: BREAKING: Utah Senate Passes Video Game Bil
Now Big Brother will try to ban games frome everyone with this thing passed.
Re: BREAKING: Utah Senate Passes Video Game Bil
Turn's out We have the last laugh if midnight passes
Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights
America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.
Re: BREAKING: Utah Senate Passes Video Game Bil
Isn't that what happened to the last JT inspired bill to go through Utah?
Re: BREAKING: Utah Senate Passes Video Game Bil
The one thing that genuinely sucks about this is that Jack Thompson is probably going to claim victory, despite the fact that this bill was ammended to beejeezus and back.
Re: BREAKING: Utah Senate Passes Video Game Bil
Now game retailers will drop the policies altogether and now even more kids could get rated M game. Good job.
Re: BREAKING: Utah Senate Passes Video Game Bil
It'd be great to see them do just that and when accused of negligence have them saying the idiots made them.
Re: BREAKING: Utah Senate Passes Video Game Bil
But the bill has to go back to the Utah H.R to be considered
Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights
America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.
Re: BREAKING: Utah Senate Passes Video Game Bil
Re: BREAKING: Utah Senate Passes Video Game Bil
Don't forget to heckle your states politicions...I mean..
Re: BREAKING: Utah Senate Passes Video Game Bil
Re: BREAKING: Utah Senate Passes Video Game Bil
At least my boy, Senator Whatshisname, had enough good sense to warn that they could well be dragging the Truth in Advertising Act to a place which all of them will regret going.
Re: BREAKING: Utah Senate Passes Video Game Bil
Well,darn.
Re: BREAKING: Utah Senate Passes Video Game Bil
Chris Buttars is a nutcase, I wouldn't expect anything less of his siding with another (Jack thompson) by citing the flawed logic of a past, failed case.
I live here in Utah, and know how far out of touch some of our legislature can be. I did contact my senator to vote no on this, and will also be writing the Governor (seeing as it may actually get to his desk) to veto it. My hope at this point is that this will not meet the time restraints for passage, and will die.
Plus, Senator Scott McCoy is right, it IS unconstitutional
Re: BREAKING: Utah Senate Passes Video Game Bil
Good on you. This is definitely one of those circumstances where letting something die is the way to go.