Australian Watchdog Group Slams House of the Dead: Overkill

March 19, 2009 -

An Australian parents' group is protesting the MA15+ rating assigned to Wii zombie shooter House of the Dead: Overkill.

As reported by the Melbourne Herald-Sun, Pro Family Perspective director Angela Conway is leading the charge against HOTD:O. The game recently set a Guinness Book record for profanity. Said Conway:

The gaming industry has been mischievously misrepresenting the classification system on this issue. I feel very distressed that a large number of teenagers and adults would play this game and soak up this amount of sexually aggressive violence and aggressively violent language.

We need to draw a deep breath and look at the research, which will show a need to scale back this level of violence.

 

Given the increasing amount of knowledge now available of the effects of exposure to intense levels of violence on the adolescent brain, we should be reviewing the level of violence the MA15+ classification now allows.

Conway also called for additional research into the impact of violent games on players. Last year, Conway claimed that violent games would turn troubled kids into "lethal killers."

Sega spokesman Vispi Bhopti defended HOTD:O, however:

House of the Dead: Overkill has been rated as suitable for people over 15. It is not an R-rated game. The swearing in it is very much stylised so it matches the Grindhouse cinema style made famous by director Quentin Tarantino.

In playing the game, players attack zombies or humanoid characters but never humans. This is an important distinction that the classification board makes when it gives a rating.


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Re: Australian Watchdog Group Slams House of the Dead: Overkill

Soon we'll find ourselves back in the days of the NES Hogan's Alley where we're shooting cardboard targets with nerf guns. No more will be allowed!

http://nerfguns.org

Re: Australian Watchdog Group Slams House of the Dead: Overkill

Australian's all let us rejoice, for we are young and being told what to do by stupid people who never want us gamers to have an R18+ rating and wanting to ban something that we all enjoy except for them


TBoneTony

Re: Australian Watchdog Group Slams House of the Dead: Overkill

yeah but doesnt removing this material also cause harm? I.E. taking away freedom of expression etc etc. in the long run you could argue that could cause harm take away a persons ability to express themselves in a safe medium and well the results arent pleasent.

trying to contol the people will not end well governments have been overthrown in the past it would be no suprise if it ever happend again.

Id rather that didnt happen Id rather this gets talked out. if people keep getting walked all over and told they cant do this or that or express them selves etc. well it may take many more years but they wont stand for it forrever.

arent we supposed to be free?

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Sage*

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Sage after reading your misinformed rhettoric, I've come to the conclusion that it's simply not possible to have an intelligent debate with someone as stupid as you. Do you honestly believe the crap your spewing out? Far Cry 2 trained him how to load a handgun? Your an idiot if you believe that! There is no way you can learn how to properly load a handgun from watching a fast animation. I bet you have NO experience with firearms whatsoever as proof by your next idiotic statement that someone can learn how to fire a gun from playing house of the dead. Have you ever fired a real gun before? Real gun has recoil and kick back and a real gun needs to be properly cleaned and handled. Seriously just shut the fuck up because your just repeating what your butt buddy Jack has already repeated. And it doesn't matter if your not as much of an ass as he is, the mere fact you admire this man is disgusting. Your not out to save lives, your exploiting a tragedy to promote your fascist agenda. Yes you are a fascist and unlike some of the posters on here i won't make appologies for those who insulted you. You deserve to be insulted, your disgusting. You want to take away my rights just because you object to it and exploit a tragedy to promote your sick agenda. You get cut no slack from me. And btw yes i am pro violent games and proud of it! And I'm also pro-minors buying M-rated games too. Stores have no responsibility to not sell this stuff to kids. It's the parents responsibility to set the parental controls on the console and know what thier kids are doing but then again personal responsibility doesn't seem to be very in this year. BTW even if Far Cry 2 and Counterstrike never existed, that shooting still would have occurred. If you believe otherwise then your a delusional idiot who's divorced from reality. This kid was mentally unstable and had been rejected romantically by a female friend. He shot mostly women too which shows a rather misgogynistic motive for his crime. Hell it makes more sense to blame the female gender for what this kid did. Of course that would also be a moronic scapegoat as well. The kid is responsible for that horrendous act. Not any video game, not the girl who rejected him, HE IS!!!! Grow the fuck up people and start taking some responsibility. This world is always going to have sick, twisted, messed up, and demented people, and banning violent video games or guns for that matter won't do anything. We need to start addressing what causes people to develop the mentality that would even allow them to contemplate such a horrible thing. And that lies within addressing the gaps in our mental health system and the culture in our schools. Of course it's easier to just blame video games or some other dumb scapegoat.

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Also the days when someone makes a conplaint for something to get banned are OVER!!!

So grow up people and GET USED TO IT!!!

TBoneTony

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If these people are so up in arms over a game that is given an MA15+ rating, perhaps they should realise that

 

1. It is given an MA15+ for GOOD REASON!!!!

 

or 2. Support for an R18+ for Videogames in Australia.

 

Also people like these guys should realise that just conplaining against the OFLC's decision is worthless, because you are just like a football player who disagrees with the umpire's decision.

And if I remember from my experience of playing Sport, is that if you argue against the umpire, you will never win.

 

TBoneTony

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On a side note I'm now inviting everyone to buy or rent any House of the Dead game and play it bare assed naked.

And Sage: "Suffer Like G Did?"

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: Australian Watchdog Group Slams House of the Dead: ...

"On a side note I'm now inviting everyone to buy or rent any House of the Dead game and play it bare assed naked."

In public.  We've got to hit all the points here.

Re: Australian Watchdog Group Slams House of the Dead: Overkill

You know, to settle this long running debate, let me make the following statment.

In all FBI research regarding the causes and risk factors for School shootings, Video games have never been considered a cause, nor were they considered a high risk factor.

Video games do not have, nor do they create, violence in people. 100 million people play games in the usa alone, and more then half that many play violent games, given the most recent sales numbers. Now, that being said, less then 1 percent of those people ever commit crimes, or otherwise engage in violence.

My conclusion? It is not the games that are the problem, nor the content in them. It is the person themselves who has an issue. Games, violent or not, are simply a form of entertaintment. If a person is unstable enough to be affected heavily by games, they would be equally effected by tv, music, books, and other forms of influence.

On top of that, many games with violent conent often present it with such over the top and wildly exagerated visuals, that only the most unstable of individuals would percevice it as real.

Ergo, to sieze upon a school shooting and attack games simply be cause a mentally unstable person played this game or that, clearly shows a lack of intelligences, a clear, purposefull agenda, or both, in the case of jack.

When all research has thus far proven NOTHING in regards to video game violence, and the overwhelming majority of game players do not commit violence themselves, there is no evidance to back up the claim that games create violence.

The reason we here think some games should not be given to kids, has nothing to do with the content being dangerous to them. It have everything to do with the fact that many games are ment and designed for an adult audiance and there for not ment for kids. That what the rating system is FOR. It's not a claim that the games are dangerous or harmful, but that the content in them is not ment of children. Exactly the same as Movie and tv ratings.

Does that clear up all the issues, set the record straight and so forth? I hope so.

Now then, if you'll excuse me, I got some Samurai warrirors 2 to play. Wanna relive one of my heros adventures again.

 

Yukimura is still here. "Well done Yukimura. You are japans greatest hero. Now, the chaos ends." Spoken by Tokugawa Ieyasu to Yukimura sanada just moments before Yukimuras death in Samurai warriors 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR9qIUXOjYY

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''In all FBI research regarding the causes and risk factors for School shootings, Video games have never been considered a cause, nor were they considered a high risk factor.''

good point!

And lets face it.. if an entire team of fbi shooting experts, and criminal profilers don't consider it relevant, i think we can take their word over that of a disbarred lawyer and a forum troll.

Re: Australian Watchdog Group Slams House of the Dead: Overkill

Problem would be solved with a R18+ rating.

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But what about the flood of filth that an R18 rating would allow through. You know, all three games that didn't get squashed into the MA15 category.

-ConstantNeophyte: always the newb, ALWAYS.

-ConstantNeophyte: always the newb, ALWAYS.

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"sexually aggressive violence and aggressively violent language"

Have they read any Shakespeare?

Re: Australian Watchdog Group Slams House of the Dead: Overkill

I am not Derovius. Nor am I Jack.

Re: Australian Watchdog Group Slams House of the Dead: Overkill

You may not be. But you're still pretty much the worst troll ever. I'd almost rather have Pandralsik over you.

Re: Australian Watchdog Group Slams House of the Dead: ...

Not even close.

Pandralisk was rude, posted off-topic walls of text and his posts 99% of the time came down to the following themes.

A. Religion stinks and is evil

B. Defending himself.

Sage is polite and doesn't post walls of text.

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Debates are like merry go rounds. Two people take their positions then they go through the same points over and over and over again. Then when it's over they have the same positions they started in.

---------------------------------------------------- Debates are like merry go rounds. Two people take their positions then they go through the same points over and over and over again. Then when it's over they have the same positions they started in.

Re: Australian Watchdog Group Slams House of the Dead: ...

Well, I could delve into my photobucket, but I'll just simply:

Well, isn't that special?  - The Church Lady, Saturday Night Live when it was GOOD

:)

Really, I don't care one way or the other.

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Re: Australian Watchdog Group Slams House of the Dead: Overkill

Still doesn't prove that you're not a Troll like Derovirus was.

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Re: Australian Watchdog Group Slams House of the Dead: Overkill

I'm still not sure I understand the difference between harm and inappropriate. Could someone explain in a little more detail please?

I think it's inappropriate for anyone to walk in public naked and I also think it's inappropriate for anyone to play violent video games. What makes it so different between a kid and adult?

Re: Australian Watchdog Group Slams House of the Dead: Overkill

Harm:  An act, negative in nature, committed, intentionally or unintentionally, against one's self or another individual.

(In)Appropriate: A subjective term; the preception by one individual passing judgement on acceptable or unacceptable acts or beliefs of another individual.  The preception is directed at the act/belief, not specifically the individual committing the act or holding the belief.

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And a realization came to me as I was walking out the door of work, which is where I made that comment.

The "judgement" doesn't even have to be on a seperate individual.  The judgement could be passed on the actions or beliefs of one's self.  Thereby determining what is or is not acceptable for one's self.

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Re: Australian Watchdog Group Slams House of the Dead: Overkill

From Dictionary.com:

Harm - physical injury or mental damage; hurt: to do him bodily harm.

Inappropriate - not appropriate; not proper or suitable

Appropriate - suitable or fitting for a particular purpose, person, occasion

Hope that helps.

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Sage -- Just for you, entried right out of the Merriam-Webster
 

Main Entry:
1harm
Pronunciation:
\ˈhärm\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
Middle English, from Old English hearm; akin to Old High German harm injury, Old Church Slavic sramŭ shame
Date:
before 12th century
1 : physical or mental damage : injury
 
2 : mischief , hurt
 
 
 
Main Entry:
in·ap·pro·pri·ate
Pronunciation:
\ˌi-nə-ˈprō-prē-ət\
Function:
adjective
Date:
1804
: not appropriate : unsuitable
in·ap·pro·pri·ate·ly adverb
in·ap·pro·pri·ate·ness noun
 

 

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It isnt 'appropriate' to burp at the dinner table.

does it HARM anyone? no.

Harm and 'innappropriate' are entirely different things.

innappropriate is generally governed by culture and social 'norms'. Harm means something that happens has caused detriment to somebody.

Re: Australian Watchdog Group Slams House of the Dead: Overkill

Violent games are not for children and nakedness doesn´t fit as example.

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Re: Australian Watchdog Group Slams House of the Dead: Overkill

Here's the difference, Sage. Most of us live in countries where we can spend our time working (assuming we haven't been laid off yet), and enjoying our free time.  Who are you to say that someone can't enjoy a video game, movie, or even a book revolving around violence?

Can we define violence please? Is it the destruction of property, matter, and the loss of life? Or is violence something referring to just human loss of life?

If violence is to encompass all aspects of destruction, let's consider the sun. It has violent reactions, burning a good ways away from our planet. Such violence though, supports our Earth and ecosystems to the point where we can still live here, right?

---- There is a limit for both politicians against video games, and video games against politicians. http://www.goteamretard.com

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You don't get a say in whether or not another tax paying adult plays violent games, views violent movies, listens to violent music, or reads a violent novel.  If you don't like it you are always allowed to move to a more Orwellian country.

 

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

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Well, that's kind of like saying I don't get a say in whether or not another tax paying adult can walk around in public naked. Do you not agree that indecency laws are a good thing?

Re: Australian Watchdog Group Slams House of the Dead: ...

 Just as a side note on this. I do have a wish that indecency laws did not exist. North America in particular has some strange ideas about nudity.

The fact that there are people who think a naked breast is worse for a child to see than someone getting decapitated or shot in the head execution style is fairly ridiculous.

In my opinion, a naked body is not some terrible thing for a child to see. I really can't think of why it would be harmful for a child to see a penis, after all roughly 50% children have one themselves.

I mean, I don't see this happening any time soon, but I'm hoping maybe sometime.

Also, at the moment I'd say I wouldn't support showing a young child porn. I haven't thought too much about it though. It would definitely raise some questions.

 

So to answer your question, I feel that you should not have a say in whether another adult can walk around naked. I'd say I'm probably against public sex though.

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You really have no concept of the freedoms that an adult is entilted to in this country do you?  who are you to say what I can view in my own house?  Be that a violent game or, low and behold, my own penis from walking around stark-ass-naked?

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

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Now, I am going to pre-empt what I am almost certain is coming from Sage - "Well what about child pornography/snuff films, etc etc, do you disagree that those things should be banned even in the privacy of your own home?"

Again, it comes down to whether someone's rights were infringed on.  Obviously in child porn and snuff films and the like, someone was definitely harmed, by any reasonable standards, and thus such things are illegal whether in public or private.

A violent video game in my home played by me does not harm you.

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Playing a violent video game isn't usually done in the street.

---- There is a limit for both politicians against video games, and video games against politicians. http://www.goteamretard.com

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Actually, I play a violent video game while I am sitting at the bar in Applebee's waiting for my steak, but then, that's not really 'in the street' now is it?

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There's a big difference.  If someone plays games, violent or not, in their own home, that doesn't harm you at all.  If someone walks naked in public, it is 'indecent'.  If someone walks naked in their home, it is not.

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Damn good thing its not indecent to walk around naked in your home. With the warm weather coming back, I'm reinstating Naked Sundays.

Re: Australian Watchdog Group Slams House of the Dead: Overkill

Am I the only one appauled that they attributed Grindhouse cinema to Quentin Tarantino? He was INFLUENCED by grindhouse cinema... he most certainly did not create it or make it popular.

Re: Australian Watchdog Group Slams House of the Dead: Overkill

So you all believe that violent video games do not cause any harm, but then also believe children should be restricted from playing these games? Isn't that, in itself, a hypocritical statement?

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Swearing like a sailor is not harmful, but I don't like to see kids going around with their mouths full of obscenities.

It's a matter of personal responsibility. Some parents don't mind their kids swearing, I do.

Some parents don't want their kid seeing violent entertainment. I myself will only let my son play/view these games when I judge that he is old enough. Even if he were to play/view it, it would not cause any harm, but I retain my parental choice.

Re: Australian Watchdog Group Slams House of the Dead: Overkill

Smoke screen and misinformation on your part, as with many of your posts.

Don't cause harm, no they don't cause harm. 

Religion doesn't cause harm. 

Bigotry and hate doesn't cause harm. 

Owning a gun doesn't cause harm. 

Reading Harry Potter doesn't cause harm.

Reading Playboy/Playgirl doesn't cause harm.

Having a debate on any controversial subject doesn't cause harm.

Reading the NY Times, NY Post, Enquirer, Human Events, Wired, Sports Illustrated, Journal of American Psychology, or any other form of news media doesn't cause harm.

Listening to rap, country, heavy metal, christian rock, alternative music, soft rock, or any form of music doesn't cause harm.

The actions of an individual against another individual is what causes harm.  Whether it's verbal, mental, phsyical, and/or sexual abuse of any kind.  That's what causes harm.

What one is exposed to, and how they absorb it, from the most insignificant thing to the most life altering event can have an effect, positive or negative or even have no effect on an individual.  What is positive for one individual may be negative or have no effect on another.  And these factors are determined by a massive number of other factors, including genetic, personality type, prior life experiences, and other factors.  Saying something simplistic such as violent video games lead to violence or even aggressive behavior is a sign of a limited mintality, whether intentional or otherwise and unable to comprehend the enormity of the complexity of the individual.

In addition, as has been stated many times before, the rating system is NOT a policy or restriction device.  It is set up as one of many  information devices for individuals and Parents to make informed decsions.  What retailers chose to do or not do with that rating system is up to them.  And merchant associations may set policy for membership to follow any or no rating system for their members or potential members.  But the rating system (ANY rating system) is as much a tool as the ability to look up information on schools your children may attend, or the neighborhoods you may decide to go live in, or the the vehicles you choose to buy, or the foods you choose to eat.  They are merely tools with which you are free to agree or not agree with.

One individual or Parent may choose to allow their child to play a game, read a book, associate with various religious organizations, listen to music, or have conversations that another individual or Parent may find "inappropriate" for themselves or their own child.  And that's all well, fine, and dandy.  Everyone is entitled to differences of opinion and belief.

But what one individual or Parent does NOT have the Right to do, contrary to the beliefs of those who oppose the US Constitution and the Rights outlined therein, is DICTATE what is or is not appropriate for other individuals and/or other Parent's children.  You have a problem with Mark Twain, Hip Hop, GTA, Baptists who perform religious marriage ceremonies on homosexuals, and MSNBC, well fine and howdy doody dandy, don't participate in those things.  That's your Right.  But don't deny other citizens THEIR Rights.  That's called subversive behavior and an attempt to create a dictatorship in a Free Country. 

Am I getting too aggressive for ya?  Feel that I should just lay down and roll over and take having my Rights as both an individual and Parent denied to me?  Feel that YOU have the Right not only to stand up for YOUR Rights in whatever manner YOU feel necessary but that YOU have the Right to DICTATE to me what is or is not appropriate for myself or my child?  Now who's being a hypocrit?

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Re: Australian Watchdog Group Slams House of the Dead: Overkill

Thing is i'm NOT trying to take your rights away. I'm not Atkinson or Vaz, i'm not in a position to even be able to take your rights away. I'm simply stating my view that the government should step in on issues before mass shootings begin. I'm sure the families of the dead, and even the dead themselves would be alot better if the government stepped in and stopped it before it happened. That's why I think anything violent should be banned. I'm not only against video games, it's just that this site is about video games.

Re: Australian Watchdog Group Slams House of the Dead: Overkill

You seem to have a lack of comprehension of your own writing and thoughts.

"Thing is i'm NOT trying to take your rights away."

"That's why I think anything violent should be banned."

The moment you step from "I don't want to participate in x or allow my own children to participate in x" to "I don't want OTHERS to participate in x or allow OTHER people's children to participate in x", then you ARE attempting to deny other individuals and Parents their Rights.

It is an unproven argument that the existance of anything not directly associated with a violent act (reading a book, watching the news, preaching bigotry and hate as a foundation of a religious belief, playing a game of ANY kind, listening to music, having public debates, etc) WILL lead to a violent act.

To throw up the use of potential victims of ANY act as a justification to deny other individuals, who have absolutely NOTHING to do with a violent act, past, present, or future, is just another form of smoke screen and deception and I seriously question the morality of any individual who argues that they are trying to do what is best for others by using lies and/or deceit to protect others.

It would no more be logical to argue that GTA caused Devin Moore to commit murder than arguing that if you find a Bible in the home of someone who assaults a homosexual individual, then it must be Christianity's fault and we must set out to protect people from future violence caused by religion.  Whether it had no effect on the individual, a tiny amount, or a large amount of a an effect on the individual, that effect is limited to that individual and cannot be predicted later in regards to other individuals because, obviously, we are individuals and react differently based on the complexity that is us.  The individual alone is responsible for their actions. 

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Re: Australian Watchdog Group Slams House of the Dead: Overkill

Precisely.  Well put.

"Volume helps to get a point across but sharp teeth are better."

"Volume helps to get a point across but sharp teeth are better."

Re: Australian Watchdog Group Slams House of the Dead: Overkill

^ Nailed it.

Re: Australian Watchdog Group Slams House of the Dead: Overkill

I would like to watch you telling a person that his/her beloved one was killed by the videogame industry instead a mental deceased individual.

You really are a piece of work.

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Re: Australian Watchdog Group Slams House of the Dead: Overkill

Copying my post from earlier:

"By your reasoning, the following things should be banned because they can be used to cause "even one death", and thus they are unacceptable:

Scissors, cars, tools, pens, piano wire, cholesterol, morphine, chairs, 2x4's.. <list truncated, but could go on to include just about anything>"

The only way to prevent all bad things from happening is to put the entire citizenry in lockup in individual padded cells.

Re: Australian Watchdog Group Slams House of the Dead: ...

what about fabric allergies?

the walls of the padded cell could kill you.

Hell the only way to protect everyone is just to all kill ourselves so nobody can die. *twitches*

Re: Australian Watchdog Group Slams House of the Dead: ...

Don't you dare subscribe to Judge Death's way of thinking.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judge_Death

 

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why would they 'be better'?

please explain. I fail to see how banning violent games would have any benefical effect. Evidence please.

Re: Australian Watchdog Group Slams House of the Dead: Overkill

Violent games can cause harm to unstable and uncared for minors. This requires parental supervision and discussion. That said, a "Mature" game is rated that way for a reason. The only reason Austrailia has such a problem is because we have one politician that has in effect made his stand to become a dictator, as opposed to a representative.

A representational government these days isn't a true representational government.  All we see are people that are "elected" to represent us, but turn around and dictate what the people can or cannot do. My prime example of this is Atkinson.

With that said, there are many questions that need to be considered. Is HOTD:O even an interesting or good game in the first place? Not really. What about a game like Rapelay that the a few governments have decided to try and ban, despite it being released for online ordering since 2005(*I think its release date was 2005.)

By making a giant fuss over a specific title, you generate more traffic as politically active adults and teenagers try to understand what our governments are thinking.  I remember myself wanting to see a copy of Rapelay just for the sake of being knowledgable in what the content is, rather than doing what Fox News did with Mass Effect.  This would have generated an extra sale (though it didn't, I lost interest in following this as even more people decided to jump on the 'let's ban a 3-year-old-game bandwagon).

Should a game like Grand Theft Auto be sold to (MOST) Minors? No. But I do believe that it is a parent's responsibility and choice to choose when their child is exposed to such games. I reoutinely stop and educate parents in busy game stores about what content is actually in these types of games. It's not that the content is "surprising". Just look at the title, look at the back of the case, and it would stand to reason that the game indicates the use of illegal activities ranging from not just the theft of cars, but many other things.

Thompson's bill seems to be up for signing by the Governor here in Utah. A state with a 94% enforcement rate from companies that have a volunteered policy on selling to minors. (It is almost impossibly to buy Mature rated titles in my city if you are under 18.)  This kind of over-reaction by lawmakers and our supposed "representatives" is what makes us, the games, so frustrated with the naysayers that just repeat each other like a flock of seagulls.  Utah is the last state that needs something like this, especially right now.

 

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james_fudgethere's some inside baseball stuff going on in this Andrew - likely some stuff we don't know10/20/2014 - 3:30pm
E. Zachary KnightGreat musical video about online trolling. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nS-QeM2ne810/20/2014 - 2:46pm
Andrew EisenBut again, this whole thing is just too damn vague to form an opinion on.10/20/2014 - 2:40pm
Andrew EisenWithout the original communication, it's impossible to say if it could honestly be misconstrued as a friendly suggestion rather than an employer directive. However, it appears that subsequent emails should have cleared up any doubt.10/20/2014 - 2:40pm
Andrew EisenThose aren't the owner's words, they're Chris Dahlen's. For what it's worth, we do see an email from Gonzalez stating "you've already broken the only rule we set for you!!!!!!!"10/20/2014 - 2:38pm
Michael ChandraSo really the guy's own words strike me as "wah! How dare you disagree with me!" behaviour, which is the sort of childish attitude I am unfortunately not surprised by.10/20/2014 - 2:17pm
Michael ChandraCorrect AE, but then again the owner's own words are about "wishes", not about an order. No "we told him not to", but going against his wishes.10/20/2014 - 2:16pm
Matthew Wilsonyup. sadly that has been true for awhile.10/20/2014 - 2:10pm
james_fudgewelcome to 2014 politics. Increasingly fought online10/20/2014 - 1:54pm
E. Zachary KnightIt is honestly a shame that anyone has to publicly state they are against such vile behavior, but that is the sad life we live.10/20/2014 - 1:46pm
E. Zachary KnightDecided to publicly reiterate my opposition to harassment campaigns. http://randomtower.com/2014/10/just-stop-with-the-harassment-and-bullying-campaigns-already/10/20/2014 - 1:45pm
Andrew EisenMichael Chandra - Unless I overlooked it, we haven't seen how the directive to not talk about whatever he wasn't supposed to talk about was phrased so it’s hard to say if it could have been misconstrued as a suggestion or not.10/20/2014 - 12:35pm
Andrew EisenHey, the second to last link is the relevant one! He actually did say "let them suffer." Although, he didn't say it to the other person he was bickering with.10/20/2014 - 12:29pm
Neo_DrKefkahttps://archive.today/F14zZ https://archive.today/SxFas https://archive.today/1upoI https://archive.today/0hu7i https://archive.today/NsPUC https://archive.today/fLTQv https://archive.today/Wpz8S10/20/2014 - 11:21am
Andrew EisenNeo_DrKefka - "Attacking"? Interesting choice of words. Also interesting that you quoted something that wasn't actually said. Leaving out a relevant link, are you?10/20/2014 - 11:04am
quiknkoldugh. I want to know why the hell Mozerella Sticks are 4 dollars at my works cafeteria...are they cooked in Truffle Oil?10/20/2014 - 10:41am
Neo_DrKefkaAnti-Gamergate supporter Robert Caruso attacks female GamerGate supporter by also attacking another cause she support which is the situation happening in Syia “LET SYRIANS SUFFER” https://archive.today/F14zZ https://archive.today/Wpz8S10/20/2014 - 10:18am
Neo_DrKefkaThat is correct in an At-Will state you or the employer can part ways at any time. However Florida also has laws on the books about "Wrongful combinations against workers" http://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2012/448.04510/20/2014 - 10:07am
james_fudgehe'd die if he couldn't talk about Wii U :)10/20/2014 - 9:16am
Michael ChandraBy the way, I am not saying Andrew should stop talking about Wii-U. I find it quite nice. :)10/20/2014 - 8:53am
 

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