Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty: World at War

March 20, 2009 -

If you've played Call of Duty: World at War, you know how nasty those enemy attack dogs can be: They're fast, vicious and frightening (see video at left).

But a group of students at a Massachusetts high school are upset about the need to shoot dogs in CoD:WaW. They're taking their protest to Activision Blizzard, which publishes the best-selling game.

Breanna Lucci, who serves as president of the Animal Rights Club at the Academy of Notre Dame in Tyngsboro, said:

Killing dogs as a form of entertainment ... over and over again. That's one of the objects of the game. Parents need to know what they are buying their kids. Killing animals should not be a form of entertainment...

 

My little 12-pound Pomeranian, Winnie the Pooh, is sitting next to [my brother, who is playing CoD:WaW], and I'm thinking, 'This looks horrible!' My brother is a sweetheart. He won't be killing dogs after playing. But some people might.

Jen Dupras of the Massachusetts Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals supports the students' efforts:

I feel like these video games are dangerous for a lot of reasons. We can all rationalize and say it's just pretend. Even so, why pretend shooting people and dogs? They really desensitize kids and adults to what that violence signifies.

Via: Lowell Sun


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Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty: ...

"If you are not willing to kill for your country, as least show me that you are willing to die for it!" incontinenta urinara

Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty: ...

They're highschoolers. Meaning they should shut the fuck up and simply observe for a few more years until they become adults. Only then should they be considered aware enough to be listened to.

Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty:

This woman seems like the PETA people in that South Park episode...

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Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty:

I've said it before, I'll say it again...

If these fucking activists can only find issues in games to bitch and moan about, then there are no REAL problems left to fix.

Feminists in Fat Princess

People complaining about racism in RE5.

And now this shit.

Seriously, I don't have a problem with activists or fighting for a cause, but can you window licking fucktards PLEASE go out and find a real abused dog to help rather than a collection of pixels and textures.

Hell, does shutting the game off lock the "dog" in a windowless box about 5 inches by 3 inches with a couple of metal discs spinning at about 7200 RPM??

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I noticed that no one has brought up the point that this person references their pomeranian (the canine equivilant of a snobby rat with a static electric bad hair day), when talking about attack dogs in COD:WaW. Now, call me crazy here, but a 10 lb pomeranian seems like the only thing it is a threat to is the food bowl. Compare that to a 60+ lb German Shepard who has been trained to rip a man's throat out on command. It's like saying a gold fish is the same as a pirahna.

 

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Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty:

Lets see, how many kids are killed or maulled by dogs every year, versus how many kids are going out and killing dogs because of a video game...?

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Firstly this is a game, it has a age limit on it to, 15+ in the UK, anyone under that age shouldn't be playing it, anyone over that age shouldn't and generally isn't that impressionable.

Secondly, they're making it historical, dogs attacked you, you killed them or you died!

Thirdly, if a dog attacks me I WILL KILL IT to defend myself, the human instinct to survive cannot be overcome

 

Fourthly, finally, simply, quit your bitching

Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty:

I hated it that the Tomb Raider games were filled with all kinds of endagered species, but then again, this was just a game.

Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty:

"My brother is a sweetheart. He won't be killing dogs after playing. But some people might."

True. Thing is, if they're killing dogs, they probably hated'em before they knew the existence of video-games...

Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty:

But a group of students at a Massachusetts high school.

Credibility is therefore moot, because they are presumably living off their parents and under 20.  This goes for any opinion they might have.  They are not a threat of any kind to the public perception of COD:WAW.

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As a animal right supporters and also a person against animal cruelty.  I find this ridiculous, would anybody tell that dumb bitch that you're fighting dog because they're attacking you.  You don't just stand there letting the dog take a bite of you, you fight back. So this person decide to let the dog bite her and get rabies instead of fighting for your survival. 

Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty: ...

The above poster is now officially one of my, albeit many, heroes.

Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty: ...

the RE series has always made me love killing dogs. Nothing is more satisfying than killing those little bastards. Think about it.... haha. (i do hate when they come to attack though, its just the part when they are dead i become happy).

 

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Utah- Male- 20- Owner of PS3, Wii, 360.

Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty:

Comments at the Lowell forums have been removed! Gamers are being repressed!

Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty:

Not that anyone will read a comment this far down but:

1. How funny is it that with all the killing of humans in that game the protest is about dogs?

2."He won't be killing dogs after playing. But some people might." I think we all know what is wrong with that argument.

3.Another day, another attempt at silencing people who's art, ideas, and voice we don't understand or find frightening.

Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty:

Mew thinks people need to get a life...

 


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Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty:

12 pounds?

Wow thats a fat pomeranian.

Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty:

What's all this crap about how "my little brother/son/daughter/sister/nephew/whatever would never do that, but someone else might" ? "My family is perfect, but everyone elses sucks ass!"

The only person who would play this game and kill a dog for fun is someone who would not play the game and kill a dog for fun. A person with a dangerous mental disorder. Instead of trying to get rid of the MANY MANY MANY things that could theoretically act as triggers, why not work on getting rid of the actual causes?

Seems like a much better method to me...

Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty:

you took the words right out of my head, seriously i was thinking the same thing! i just wasn't sure th best way to say it. i applaud your good job! haha.

 

Utah- Male- 20- Owner of PS3, Wii, 360.

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Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty:

truth^

Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty: ...

It's hard to take anyone serious when they name their dog Winnie the Pooh.  To be honest, I hate when I have to kill dogs in COD, but mainly because it's hard.  Seriously though, these aren't dogs just lying around, wagging their tails, licking your hand; these things are trying to kill you in game.  I love dogs and would never want to harm one in real life and I'm sure a lot of gamers feel the same way.  However, if a large dog was attacking me, or someone else, I would do anything to make it stop, even kill it if I had to.  I wouldn’t feel good about it though.  Anyone that wouldn't do that, well, doesn't have their moral priorities straight IMO.  What would this girl do if a large dog was attacking her Pomeranian?  Would she sit by and do nothing?  Why aren't these people protesting the military and police using dogs?  Maybe they do, but I don't see anything there about them.  They use animals in real life to actually go after people.  They put real animals in harm's way.  The ones in the video game aren't real and don't make me want to harm any real life dog. In fact, I think I'm more against the use of attack dogs now.  Anyone who thinks they make gamers want to harm dogs in real life is prejudice against gamers.  That's right, they're prejudice, as in pre-judging, as in the same things that racists, sexists, and bigots do.  I'm sorry, but it seems that they think since we play video games, we lack the brain capacity to differentiate between right and wrong and I'm sick of it.  If she's really concerned about the safety of her 12 pound Pomeranian, or any other dog, then she doesn't need to be on the lookout for other people, or gamers.  That 12 pound Pomeranian is probably more likely to get attacked by another dog, or ran over by a car.  Why not go after car drivers?  They kill animals all the time!  Why go after Call of Duty?  It's not the only game, or the first game to "harm animals".  Why not go after Super Mario Brothers?  Mario killed thousands of turtles by jumping on their backs and crushing them!  Turtles never harmed anyone, well alligator snapping turtles maybe...and Ninja Turtles, but still, that's no need to go jumping on their backs.  It's no different than showing a fake dog getting harmed in a movie.  It's not really entertaining to watch as it is just adding to the realism of the entertainment.  It's not teaching people to kill animals.  If a kid has been abused by adults, or is born with metal problems, then they might go out here and harm animals.  The kid might play a video game that harms animals too, but that's what kids do.  Kids play video games.  However, just because I shoot a dog or person in a video game is not going to make me want to shoot one in real life.  I know people would like to simplify the problems we see in the world to a simplified answer that would fix everything, but taking away video games that depict harming animals wouldn't do anything to stop animal violence.  In fact, animal violence was a lot worse before movies and video games, so maybe they're actually helping stop it.  If this girl truly feels animals have rights and freedom, then she has no right to "own" one like a slave and needs to give her dog freedom and release Winnie the Pooh back into the 100 Acre Wood.  Born free, as free as the wind blows...

I hope some of the PETA and animal rights people read this, understand, and pass it on that...GAMERS AREN'T KILLING REAL ANIMALS!  If you want to stop animal cruelty, there are plenty of real people out there doing it to real animals.  Every minute you devote to attacking a video game company, or gamers for killing virtual animals, that aren't real, feel no pain, have no feelings, no emotions, etc...that's a minute that real animal cruelty goes by unchallenged and real animals suffer.  You're just standing by and doing nothing!

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Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty: ...

 Yet another person who has no idea what they're talking about. But it does confuse me. She says she saw her brother playing WaW and she was upset that she saw him shooting dogs. Now here's the thing, if she saw him shooting dogs then surely she also saw that there were humans in uniform and that it is clearly a game about war. Y'know, if the title of the game didn't tip her off.

So, if she knew it was a game about war, then how could she come to the insane conclusion that this is a game where the whole objective is to kill dogs. I mean, if that were the case, wouldn't it be called Call of Duty: Let's Go Dog Huntin'!?

I think it's fairly obvious that these are war dogs trained to rip peoples guts/face apart. I suppose if she was being attacked by a slavering war beast she would just let it kill her then?

I know this was mentioned above, a couple times, but the activists who speak out are always the crazy ones who place far more value on an animals life than on a humans.

I sure wouldn't want to be stuck in a burning building along with goddamn Winnie the Pooh. No doubt she would pull him to safety while I was burned to a crisp.

Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty:

Have these idiots play Duck Hunt and see if it'll change their mind with the dog's annoying laugh.

When Jack Thompson runs his mouth, does anyone really care what he has to say anymore?

Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty:

If I may refer you to the post I made in reply to EZK's statement regarding the Duck Hunt Mutt a few clicks towards the top of the screen, I am sure you will shit many bricks.

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Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty: ...

Funny enough as a kid I knew some kids that liked to kill small defenseless animals, I avoided them cause it was pretty sick and mario bros 3 and mike tyson's punch out with the uForce was much more fun. Odd as it may seem these kids didn't play any kind of video games. Their parents were too broke to buy anything like that so out of boredom they would maim and kill stray dogs and cats. Far as I can tell video games actually deter real violence because its much easier to play a game and do random stuff in the game than it is to chase down a cat/dog and torture it to death and possibly get caught and in deep trouble.

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Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty: ...

When I had to touch up the graphic for Command and Conquer for the German version, I had to recolor all the red blood to be black & grey. That is because in the German version all the human units were now cyborgs, and when you killed them they leaked oil instead of blood.  However, I was told it was okay to leave the red blood for the dogs in C&C Red Alert; because German law only says you can't kill humans in video games.

Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty:

We have only to wait until someone shoots a dog, in self-defense or not, before CoD gets blamed.

Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty:

i'm on that right now.... hahaha. just kidding.

 

but seriously, think about it! if some kid went and killed a dog. regardless if he has played CoDWaW or not, someone is going to make up bullshit about him going to his friends house and playing it. haha.

 

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Utah- Male- 20- Owner of PS3, Wii, 360.

Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty:

Grand theft auto = cop and prostitute killing simulator

Call of duty = Dog killinng simulator

Can't they just try to play these games before saying stupid things?

Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty:

Isn't GTA a pigeon killing simulator?

 

Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty:

But that would actually require logic, research and (gulp) REAL WORK.

I don't tihnk they're ready for that task.

It almost seems a pattern that they would accuse the new scapegoat of having things in it that were a big stretch of what was actually in it.

Comic books, music, D&D, and pretty much anything else said to inspire kids to be satanists fall under this category.

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Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty:

Fine. If they don't want to kill the dogs, then I'm sure it's possible to beat the level without killing them. Just not easy.

(watches video)

 

... never mind.

Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty: ...

it pisses me off everytime people make the assumption that playing violent video games desensitizes you.....  in no way am i, or anyone i know at all less concerned or bother by death, violence, or any horrible things of the sort. bah! the best part is that the people who make the claim never play games, therefor how in the world would they know?

Utah- Male- 20- Owner of PS3, Wii, 360.

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Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty:

War is hell...get over it.

 

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Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty: ...

Considering that men in service at that time period were faced with the obstacle of having to take down vicious attack/guard dogs, "Call of Duty:  World at War" is simply depticing that it wasn't just German/Japanese soldiers that were thrown at them.  I highly doubt that anyone is going to find killing an animal (dog or otherwise) "entertaining" & want to start doing it in real life.  Unless they're already mentally disturbed, but since killing animals is a sign of much deeper problems (i.e. - potential serial killer), you can't blame a video game for that.

I wonder what these people would have done w/ that kind of mindset if they were actually in that war or one similiar to it.  What would they do if the enemy released a dog on them whose only intention was to rip their throat out?

Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty: ...

They would try and pet it, of course. I would, too, seeing how cute those foaming, sharp teeth are.

Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty:

I wonder when someone will come to the defense of the poor, helpless zombie dogs.

Or how about the Lemmings?

And, seriously, there are hunting and fishing games.  Where are the Animal Rights crowds against them?

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Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty:

No REAL dogs were hurt. WTF?!?!?!

I'm all for not being cruel to animals.... but we're talking about DIGITAL dogs?!?!?!

So these looneys have a problem with us killing DIGITAL dogs yet DIGITAL HUMANS are perfectly "ok" to kill in a game?!?!

How is the air on your planet Animal Lovers? Because it's obviously not the same air I'm breathing.

Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty:

NEWS BULLETON:  "Animal rights wingnuts make noise.  Nobody else actually cares."

I mean, seriously, how much legitimacy can we give their opinion?  "Hmm, what an interesting game about WWII.  Kill a human, kill a human, kill a... OMG!  They just had me kill an attack dog!  Outrage!"

Even more insane is the idea that killing virtual dogs (that are trying to kill your character) is going to make teens want to kill and torture real dogs.  Hell, I hate dogs myself (cat person), but I wouldn't so much as kick one of them, let alone shoot one.  Offing pretend dogs isn't going to change that.

Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty:

Exactly, they're ATTACK dogs! It's not like you're just walking down the street and shooting random dogs. These are animals that have been trained to kill and are trying to rip your throat out!

Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty

*facepalm*

Cue an insane statement by PETA, trying to get the game pulled under the assumption that they are protecting animals, in 3, 2, 1...

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Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty:

I remember playing Duck Hunt and always making sure I had at least one bullet left to shoot at the dog. Although he couldn't actually get hurt, it was still satisfying.

Also, if any remembers the original Twisted Metal, the instruction book listed all the non vehicle characters in the game. There was a hobo that you could kill, a guy in a lawnchair that you could kill, secret agent type people that you could kill and a dog that you could not kill because you were a sick person to want to kill a dog.

I loved that joke.

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Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty:

I still have the manual for the original TM, although granted I bought the game long after the final PS1 twisted metal and only for completion sake. Anyway teh manual talks about the (grand total of four) types of pedestrians you can kill in the game and it sound saidistic in the descriptions

For example the description of the ice skater says

"Oh Ice Skating! What a lovely sport! Here let me use the front of my car to send you into a double pirouette!"

Then when it gets to the dog it says

"Even WE'RE not THAT sick!!!"

I think it's because dogs have this 'sweet and innocent' aura to them (well those that aren't attack dogs). Oh well.

For comparisons sake Twisted Metal 2 (the game that got me hooked onto the series) has 8 killable pedestrians, and no animals. It also planned on making Santa Claus one of the killable pedestrians but he was pulled.

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Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty:

Ah, the annoying dog from Duck Hunt. I remember several things showing him getting shot, like a submission on NewGrounds in which you had to choose between two similar characters on which one to shoot, and if you waited long enough, the dog shows up and you can shoot him too.

Most notably, is this strip from "Metroid: Third Derivative" by Reynard, in which Dark Samus blasts the dog, who shows up after she fails to shoot down Samus and Joey, who are escaping in the former's ship.

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Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty:

my crazy friend who's into animal rights says he doesn't like killilng dogs in Call of Duty 4 and 5(those are his favorite games).  I asked him if he liked killing humans, and he went silent.

I have been waiting for this story to happen and now i'm appropriatly laughing at it.  Seems funny people get angry over killing of virtual dogs who are attacking you. 

Heck when a dog attacks me in real life, if i can't run i'll try to hit with a stone.(when i was young and in India, i got bit by a dog,  looking back i should have hit it with a rock.)

 

Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty: ...

Me personally, I felt bad for the dogs I killed in CoD4. But yet again, we kill virtual humans all the time.

Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty: ...

You could consider it an issue of philosophy, what with human self-awareness and all.

Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty: ...

Other mammals have been shown to have self awareness as well.

 

Re: Animal Lovers Bite Back at Dog Killing in Call of Duty: ...

I certainly don't doubt it.

 
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