Utah House Majority Leader: Override of Game Bill Veto Unlikely

March 26, 2009 -

HB 353, the Jack Thompson-conceived video game/movie bill which was vetoed yesterday by Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman, is unlikely to return - at least in 2009.

The Deseret News reports that Utah House Majority Leader Kevin Garn (R, left) downplayed the likelihood of an override for either HB 353 or a second, non-game-related measure vetoed by Huntsman yesterday.

I don't see a veto override session called for either of these bills. I think the sponsors should retool them and present them next session.

Garn, however, did praise the legislation:

[HB 353] was a fine example of a bill that sends a message to the sellers of these games of violence and nudity — don't sell to minors, especially if you've advertised that you wouldn't.


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Re: Utah House Majority Leader: Override of Game Bill Veto

More like a fine example of how utterly stupid you are Garn.

Re: Utah House Majority Leader: Override of Game Bill Veto ...

Personally I wouldn't drag my ass off of vacation to reconvene for this....>_>

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Re: Utah House Majority Leader: Override of Game Bill Veto

This also brings up what kind of screwed up legislature Utah has. Either it becomes law, it gets ignored and it becomes law, or it gets vetoed, and a vote of at least 2/3 makes it law.

---You are likely to be eaten by a Grue.

---You are likely to be eaten by a Grue.

Re: Utah House Majority Leader: Override of Game Bill Veto

While overriding a veto needs a 2/3rds vote by both houses, first they have to get a 2/3rds vote by both houses to reconvene the legislature because the session ended(has to be done within 60 days of the legislature's adjournment).

Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Hornets, Jack Thompson can geaux chase a chupacabra.

Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Pelicans. Solidarity for the Saints = No retreat, no surrender. 2013 = Saints' revenge on the NFL. Even through the darkest days, this fire burns always.

Re: Utah House Majority Leader: Override of Game Bill Veto

Yeah, but as a practical matter, first they figure out if they've got the supermajority to override. If they do, then the vote to reconvene is a mere formality. The overide votes simply vote to reconvene. It's not like it's two distinct hurdles which must be overcome.

Re: Utah House Majority Leader: Override of Game Bill Veto

It actually could be two distinct hurdles. It's remarkably difficult to get 2/3 of a legislature to vote to come back into session even if 2/3 would vote to override.

Sure 2/3 might vote to override, but do those same 2/3 feel so strongly about it that they're willing to interrupt their vacations to get themselves back? That's a different question entirely.

Re: Utah House Majority Leader: Override of Game Bill Veto

I'd imagine that a reluctance to return for an override vote would manifest itself in an expression of reluctance to vote for an override. Not neccessarily the same thing, but it don't make much sense to say, "Yeah, I'll vote for the override but, no, I can't vote for the Special Session at which I'll cast my override vote."

Re: Utah House Majority Leader: Override of Game Bill Veto

Jacky Boy's crying in the Deseret News article over Huntsman's veto:

http://www.deseretnews.com/user/comments/1,5143,705293125,00.html

Jacky Boy needs to change his Depends.

Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Hornets, Jack Thompson can geaux chase a chupacabra.

Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Pelicans. Solidarity for the Saints = No retreat, no surrender. 2013 = Saints' revenge on the NFL. Even through the darkest days, this fire burns always.

Re: Utah House Majority Leader: Override of Game Bill Veto

Re: Utah House Majority Leader: Override of Game Bill Veto

At this point, are you really so shocked?

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---You are likely to be eaten by a Grue.

Re: Utah House Majority Leader: Override of Game Bill Veto

Someone, back up the WAAAAHMUBLANCE.

---You are likely to be eaten by a Grue.

---You are likely to be eaten by a Grue.

Re: Utah House Majority Leader: Override of Game Bill Veto

Careful, if the rear bumper taps him he'll sue.

Re: Utah House Majority Leader: Override of Game Bill Veto ...

"Don't sell to minors" THEY'RE NOT! When will these guys realize the problem's already taken care of! Now, they're trying to create one just so they can say, "Hey, we showed gamer's who's boss!"

Re: Utah House Majority Leader: Override of Game Bill Veto

Hmm, interesting logic. I was unaware that the ESRB ratings were a binding legal contract.

---You are likely to be eaten by a Grue.

---You are likely to be eaten by a Grue.

Re: Utah House Majority Leader: Override of Game Bill Veto

Even the ESRB itself wasn't aware of that.

 

It seems the only people who will defend this bill to the recrcling center are Thompson and his eagle forum "friends"

Re: Utah House Majority Leader: Override of Game Bill Veto

Because that's what laws are for, right?  Sending messages?  I mean, who cares if it is constitutional, is enforceable, is reasonable, serves its intended purpose, is good governance, or any of that?  As long as it "sends a message", everything else is just gravy.

Re: Utah House Majority Leader: Override of Game Bill Veto ...

I can't wait to see who Jack goes after now.  If he tried to get the Utah AG impeached because he critisized (sp) Thompson's approach, who knows what he will try to do now.  Hopefully, he will say/do something stupid to get his sorry ass arrested.

Re: Utah House Majority Leader: Override of Game Bill Veto ...

When are they up for reelection? I could see our old buddy popping up then to campaign against the Governer and maybe the house leader over the veto and not challenging it respectively. Of course if anyone running would want him to campaign on their behalf is another matter. I  doubt anyone with a realistic shot would.

Re: Utah House Majority Leader: Override of Game Bill Veto ...

He was re-elected last november, so he has 3 more years to go.

Re: Utah House Majority Leader: Override of Game Bill Veto ...

I'd post a response on what I hope Jack will do but I don't want that GP stalker to be warned by me how he can screw this all up, so I'll shut up now.

Re: Utah House Majority Leader: Override of Game Bill Veto

"Don't sell to minors or I shall taunt you a second time..."

Sortableturnip's Law: As an online discussion of video game violence grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Jack Thompson approaches 1

Re: Utah House Majority Leader: Override of Game Bill Veto

More like 'dont inform parents of game content or i shall taunt you a second time'

Re: Utah House Majority Leader: Override of Game Bill Veto ...

[HB 353] was a fine example of a bill that sends a message to the sellers of these games of violence and nudity — don't sell to minors, especially if you've advertised that you wouldn't.

Actually it really just sends a message to retailers of "Don't even attempt to uphold community standards, if you try and fail we will do horrible things to you."

-Gray17

Re: Utah House Majority Leader: Override of Game Bill Veto ...

That's right, Rep. Garn. Sometimes, when you've been knocked flat on your ass, it's better to just stay down on your ass.

 
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