Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah Attorney General

March 30, 2009 -

In the fallout from his latest, apparently unsuccessful attempt to legislate video games in Utah, disbarred Miami attorney Jack Thompson has issued a vague legal threat to Utah Attorney General Mark Shurtleff. The popular Republican is serving his third term as Utah's top law enforcement officer.

On Friday the Salt Lake Tribune reported that Shurtleff had expressed concerns about the legality of HB 353, the Thompson-conceived video game bill which was vetoed by Gov. Jon Huntsman last week.

Thompson, clearly, was not thrilled with the news. He referred to Shurtleff as "dead meat" in the header of an e-mail forwarded to GamePolitics later on Friday.

A Sunday e-mail from Thompson to Salt Lake Tribune reporter Robert Gehrke (and cc:'d to GP) threatens to "proceed" against Shurtleff if the A.G. doesn't move against major retailers for what Thompson claims is "the distribution of pornography to minors in violation of state law." By way of defining porn, Thompson attached links to strip club and hooker scenes from Grand Theft Auto IV. However, while certainly not intended for younger buyers, GTA IV has not been declared obscene in any U.S. jurisdiction.

Oh, and there's a deadline for Shurtleff to act: 5:00 P.M. today.

As GamePolitics has previously reported, Thompson called for Shurtleff's impeachment in 2007 when the A.G. suggested that a piece of Thompson-authored video game legislation then before the Utah House was unconstitutional.

GamePolitics has requested comment on Thompson's threat from Rep. Mike Morley, the sponsor of HB 353, as well as from Gayle Ruzicka, the politically-powerful Thompson ally who heads the ultra-conservative Utah Eagle Forum. We have also asked Shurtleff's office to comment. We'll post any comments that we receive.

UPDATE: Apparently unable to wait for his own 5:00 P.M. deadline, Thompson has written to Utah's Obscenity and Pornography Complaints Ombudsman... Except that the person he addressed his letter to is a law enforcement director in Utah A.G.'s Office. The "porn czar" position was eliminated in 2003 for budgetary reasons - which may be an indication of how serious Thompson is about all of this.

UPDATE 2: Rep. Morley has commented to GamePolitics on Thompson's threat to "proceed" against Shurtleff: "I know nothing about that."

Hit the jump for Thompson's Sunday letter to Shurtleff, the "dead meat" e-mail and the new letter to the porn ombudsman:

 

Subject: Fw: Robert, I am proceeding against Shurtleff Monday if he does not act on the below...

 
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Thompson
To: xxxxx@sltrib.com
Cc: xxxxx@utah.gov
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 7:52 AM
Subject: Robert, I am proceeding against Shurtleff Monday if he does not act on the below...

 

As he is knowingly allowing the distribution of pornography to minors in violation of state law:
 
John B. Thompson, J.D.

March 27, 2009

The Honorable Mark Shurtleff, Attorney General, State of Utah
Utah State Capitol Complex

Salt Lake City, Utah  Via Fax to 801-xxx-xxxx

Re:   Sale of Grand Theft Auto IV to Underage Kids in Utah

Dear Attorney General Shurtleff:

I wrote you a letter on March 6 proving to you, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that major Utah retailers such as Best Buy, Target, and Wal-Mart are selling in their brick and mortar stores and via the Internet the pornographic Grand Theft Auto IV game to minors in your state in criminal violation of Utah’s Sexual Material Harmul to Minors Law.

You did nothing upon learning of this ongoing criminal activity.  Your failure to prosecute these criminal acts constitutes an impeachable offense in your state, as you are in knowing breach of your oath of office to enforce the laws of your state, in this instance laws to protect children.

Let me be clear:  Either you prosecute these retailers for this criminal activity, or I shall take the necessary legal action to secure a court order requiring you to do so.  You have until five o’clock pm this coming Monday to act or tell me that you will act to faithfully discharge your oath of office as Attorney General in these specific regards.  

Here are two links to streaming videos that display just some of the pornographic content in Grand Theft Auto IV, which “game” is being sold to minors throughout Utah in violation of criminal laws that the people of Utah passed and demand that you enforce.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNOdsrI068w
 
http://boinkology.com/2008/04/29/the-ladies-of-liberty-city/

Warm personal regards, Jack Thompson

Copy:  Senator Dayton, Representative Morley, Lt. Gov. Herbert, Gov. Huntsman
            Gayle Ruzicka, Alan Osmond
            Media

-----------BELOW: "Dead Meat" Letter from Friday, March 27th -------------------

From: Jack Thompson
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 1:05 PM
To: dennis McCauley
Subject: I love to play hardball, and that is what Shurtleff (Dead Meat) has asked for

John B. Thompson, J.D.

March 27, 2009

The Honorable Mark Shurtleff, Attorney General, State of Utah
Utah State Capitol Complex
Salt Lake City, Utah  Via Fax to

Re:   Sale of Grand Theft Auto IV to Underage Kids in Utah

Dear Attorney General Shurtleff:

I wrote you a letter on March 6 proving to you, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that major Utah retailers such as Best Buy, Target, and Wal-Mart are selling in their brick and mortar stores and via the Internet the pornographic Grand Theft Auto IV game to minors in your state in criminal violation of Utah’s Sexual Material Harmul to Minors Law.

You did nothing upon learning of this ongoing criminal activity.  Your failure to prosecute these criminal acts constitutes an impeachable offense in your state, as you are in knowing breach of your oath of office to enforce the laws of your state, in this instance laws to protect children.

Let me be clear:  Either you prosecute these retailers for this criminal activity, or I shall take the necessary legal action to secure a court order requiring you to do so.  You have until five o’clock pm this coming Monday to act or tell me that you will act to faithfully discharge your oath of office as Attorney General in these specific regards.  

Here are two links to streaming videos that display just some of the pornographic content in Grand Theft Auto IV, which “game” is being sold to minors throughout Utah in violation of criminal laws that the people of Utah passed and demand that you enforce.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNOdsrI068w
 
http://boinkology.com/2008/04/29/the-ladies-of-liberty-city/

Warm personal regards, Jack Thompson

Copy:  Senator Dayton, Representative Morley, Lt. Gov. Herbert, Gov. Huntsman
            Gayle Ruzicka, Alan Osmond
            Media

--------------------------LETTER TO UTAH's PORN OMBUDSMAN: Mar. 30----------------------

Ken Wallentine
Obscenity and Pornography Complaints Ombudsman
Utah State Capitol Complex

Salt Lake City, Utah  Via Fax to 801-xxx-xxxx

Re:   Sale of Sexual Material Harmful to Minors—Grand Theft Auto IV—in Utah
 
Dear Mr. Wallentine:

It was a great pleasure meeting you outside Gary Herbert’s office about two months ago.  I was with Gayle Ruzicka, Karen Clark, and Alan and Suzanne Osmond to discuss HB 353 with Lt. Gov. Herbert.  I particularly enjoyed learning that we both have a dear friend in Lt. Col. Dave Grossman, who heartily endorsed HB 353, in light of the movie and video game retailers’ fraudulent activities.

As you know, the bill was overwhelmingly passed by both houses, only to see Gov. Huntsman veto it.  Mr. Huntsman either has no understanding whatsoever of the bill or he doesn’t care to know.  His explanation that the movie and video game industries would take their age ratings off the movies and games was an utterly absurd statement, as that cannot be done by virtue of binding contractual obligations they have.  The Governor was sold a bill of goods which he bought, for whatever reason.  As a result, we can look forward to more false advertising by major retail concerns such as Best Buy.

Be that as it may, Utah’s obscenity/pornography/sexual material harmful to minors statutes are still on the books.  Gov. Huntsman hasn’t managed to void them—yet.

Thus, I write you regarding those constitutional laws, as I am told you are Utah’s Obscenity and Pornography Complaints Ombudsman.  If you are not, please get this letter to him/her quickly.

Nearly a month ago, I informed A.G. Shurtleff in writing that all video game retailers are openly selling Grand Theft Auto IV to 17-year-olds in Utah.  They are doing this both on-line and in their brick and mortar stores.  Why the video game industry thinks it can sell indecent material to 17-year-olds just because they have a “Mature” rating system that  uses 17 years as the demarcation line when the law makes it 18 is beyond me, but the ways of the video game industry are inexplicable to most normal folks.  A 17-year-old is a minor, as you know, and yet someone of that age can walk into Wal-Mart, show a driver’s license indicating he is 17, and walk out with this indecent, pornographic game.

This particular game clearly constitutes sexual material harmful to minors, and its sale to anyone under 18 is a criminal act.  If you doubt that, please click on the below two links and see for yourself.  I believe most juries in Utah would find this material to be obscene under Miller v. California for sale to adults, let alone children.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNOdsrI068w
 
http://boinkology.com/2008/04/29/the-ladies-of-liberty-city/

I don’t know if Mr. Shurtleff is looking the other way from this ongoing criminal activity because of his cozy relationship with the video game industry, which has included not only the payment of campaign contributions from the Entertainment Software Association to him as well as his doing PSA’s with the ESRB, which were really unreported in-kind campaign contributions by the industry to him during his re-election cycle.  Regardless of the reason, his failure to enforce these criminal laws has to stop.  This failure is a violation of his oath of office and constitutes an impeachable offense.

Please advise at your earliest convenience that the Attorney General has either begun a prosecution of those individuals selling GTA IV to minors or that he has sent out a letter statewide, through all major media, that this practice must stop immediately.  If he does not do either of those things, then I shall proceed in the fashion I must to see to it that Mr. Shurtleff starts doing his job in this regard.

Children are more important than keeping a scofflaw industry happy in Utah.

Warm personal regards, Jack Thompson

Copy:  Senator Dayton, Representative Morley, Lt. Gov. Herbert, Gov. Huntsman
            Gayle Ruzicka, Alan Osmond
            Media

 


Comments

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah Attorney

Newsfalsh. Thompson can't even respect his own deadlines.

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Only a sick individual would make a countdown to Jack Thompson's revenge!

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah ...

Only Jack Thompson would break his own deadline, making my countdown clock obsolete...

Sortableturnip's Law: As an online discussion of video game violence grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Jack Thompson approaches 1

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It´s a conspiracy, lol

(I was about to ask this)

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GTAIV is pornographic? I seen much, much worse in CSI.

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah Attorney

It's pretty funny that a man who frequently includes hardcore pornography in random court documents is unable to produce pornographic shots of GTA4.

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah ...

 Hmm now if Shurtleff were smart he'd get a warrant taken out on Jack for communicating threats.  He wouldn't need to do much else, cause as soon as Thompson so much as went through a License check he'd be detained for a few hours while the Police contacted Utah to determine if they were going to extradite him to Utah or not.

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah Attorney

Thompson, come here.. come close will you? A little closer, that's good so I can give you a nice little tidbit.

STAY THE FUCK OUT OF MY STATE'S POLITICS YOU MORON! You don't live here, you aren't a constituent, you are trying to destabilize the most stable state when it comes to selling games. GET OUT OF MY STATE'S AFFAIRS!

---- There is a limit for both politicians against video games, and video games against politicians. http://www.goteamretard.com

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah Attorney

Dennis,

When contacting the AG's office, did you email them or call them for comment?  I was curious if you emailed them and attached a copy of the email with the "Dead Meat" comment in it.

I wonder what the AG's opinion of that would be.

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NW2K Software

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Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah ...

I can't wait for 5 pm to roll around. He's like these people who keep predicting the end of the world. Nothing is going to happen.

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Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah ...

Which "five o’clock pm" are you waiting on, Eastern Time or Mountain Time? Because the idiot who writes from Florida to someone in Utah hasn't specified. 

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah ...

Hahaha oh my god you're right! I'm geussing he meant Eastern time though. I mean, he does apparently think the world revolves around him, so I'm sure he also thinks everything is relative to his timezone.

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Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah ...

I figured Mountain Time -- but mainly because I want A.G. Shurtleff, who must be quaking in his boots in the face of Jack-O's threat, to have as much time as possible to do as Jack Thompson commands and get to prosecuting those filth traffickers.

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah ...

Can somebody say "attention whore"?

 

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Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah ...

The funny part is that Jack-O has absolutely no legal standing to seek a court order compelling the Attorney General of Utah to do a damn thing. He doesn't have any connection to Utah other than being accepted there by a bunch of similarily-minded, right-wing zealot-freaks, hence, he has no legal standing whatsoever to seek the complusion of a state official to act or refrain from acting.   

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah ...

Was just thinking that - that JT has absolutely no legal standing.  He could lean on his Eagle Forum pals to do the filing for him, I suppose - they have standing, but they'd also end up being the ones taking the fall if this effort to soothe JT's ego goes disastrously awry.  They apparently have influence and might have a lot to lose from this.

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah ...

I was gonna say, they'll likely drop his ass the moment he is no longer useful or becomes a liability.

The eagle forum aren't his friends, they just see him as a tool to help get their beliefs shoved on others.

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah ...

If (or when?) that happens, I wonder what Jack is going to do.

He has already alienated most reasonable allies he has in his fight (example: NIMF)- will he go so far as to alienate even fellow right-wing zealots?

And if he does- how bad could the repurcussions be?  I doubt the Eagle Forum would take that lying down.

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah Attorney

I can't wait to see what Shurtleff's reaction is going to be especially now that Jack is disbarred and really isn't in any position to make good on his threats unlike last time when he was still a lawyer (and even then still couldn't).  Still, he does have his allies in the Eagle Forum there, and it seems like they're carrying a grudge.  So who knows?

Still, it'll be amusing to say the least.  Especially if Shurtleff decides to press charges, as he's already been threatened by him once before.  One thing's for sure: Utah now knows what Louisiana and everyone else knows already: he's a psycho.

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah Attorney

Hrm what happened in Louisiana? I know he tried to pull yet another game legislation there, but was stomped on....

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah ...

 When it was overturned in court Jack had a fit and blamed everyone but the fact that the law was unconstitutional.   He also decided to accuse the LA AG for not cooperating with him to defend the law.

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah ...

Don't forget how he chastized the govenor for focusing on Hurricaine Katrina related matters instead of the real threat- videogames.

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah ...

Actually, it was the Attorney General(who has also been a District Attorney for one of the parishes around New Orleans) that Thompson was chastizing over the Hurricane Katrina related matters.

Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Hornets, Jack Thompson can geaux chase a chupacabra.

Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Pelicans. Solidarity for the Saints = No retreat, no surrender. 2013 = Saints' revenge on the NFL. Even through the darkest days, this fire burns always.

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah ...

LOL you have to be kiddi....wait...no this is Jack...sadly I do think I could see him saying that.

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah ...

"I have just instructed all of my... experts in the Alabama wrongful death case, all of whom have testified before Congress about the need for your kind of law, to have NOTHING whatsoever to do with your litigation in Louisiana unless I approve it... Lives are at stake, while your Mr. Foti does press conferences on Hurricane Katrina... "

http://www.gamepolitics.com/2006/08/29/editorial-are-lives-or-egos-at-st...

I still think it's one of the dumbest things I've ever seen him say.
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I'm not under the affluence of incohol as some thinkle peep I am. I'm not half as thunk as you might drink. I fool so feelish I don't know who is me, and the drunker I stand here, the longer I get.


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I'm not under the affluence of incohol as some thinkle peep I am. I'm not half as thunk as you might drink. I fool so feelish I don't know who is me, and the drunker I stand here, the longer I get.

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah ...

Somehow I think we all knew that this would happen. He didn't get impeached then and he's not going to get impeached this time (especially considering no wrong has been done). It's just Thompson blowing smoke like he always does.

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah ...

The only plausable threat to the AG depends on how much sway the Eagle Forum and other Utah zealots have over the legislature.  They managed to get this law through legislature with little problem.  However, the Eagle Forum may have enough power to push a law like this...its a much bigger stretch to get the AG impeached...

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah Attorney

It's all part of Jack's master plan to remain relevant in the gaming media.

Looks like it's working, too...

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah ...

Dead meat?

Is he trying to get federal agents on his doorstep again?

------ Ago. Perceptum. Teneo.

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah ...

Yeah, he didn't say "figuratively speaking" this time.  I'd call that a threat.  And, in a delicious bit of irony, we know he's "obsessed with the violent video game Grand Theft Auto"...

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah ...

I'm sure he does.

 

Don't let the soap slip Jacky

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah Attorney

Funny how he keeps going on how they are illegally selling to minors over the internet...Jack loves ignoring the obvious and has been bluntly told that some sites (not required) do ask the user to input their age and to purchase said item, you need a CREDIT CARD (which you have to be 18 or older to get one :P)

Oh of course though, Jack has them right where he wants them. You see it is all part of his plan! The Attorney General not only will become Jack's puppet...and sue game companies and best buy...they'll move onto T.V ...taking out H.B.O for having nudity and profanity on television! Of course only Jack can sent nudity (aka hardcore gay porn) to places in public, because he is JACK THOMPSON (DISBARRED) ATTORNEY AT LAW!

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah Attorney

I agree with your assessment, but I had a debit card when I was thirteen, and enough money in it to purchase video games if I so chose. Most sites have a way of knowing just how old the holder of the card is, of course, but still.

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah Attorney

Not a perfect world, but it still holds them pretty much "null and void" to the accusation of that they are selling to minors purposefully. They do have precautions...lame ones...but precautions none the less.

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah Attorney

Like I said, I agree with you, just a slight correction. :)

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah Attorney

When life gives you lemons you make lemonade.

But if Jack gets lemon he screams like a sour puss.

 

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Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah ...

When God gives you lemons, YOU FIND A NEW GOD.

Hahah.

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah ...

Winner!!!!

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah ...

Jack: Oh lord, why have you forsaken me?

God: CAN IT!

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah ...

Another winner!

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Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah ...

I honest to god wished that Jack Thompson could see our comments right now. Oh and if you can, that lawsuit of mine againsts you is still in the air. Mayby if you stopped calling me and other gamers, potheads, and bastards, I could drop it.

 

Lol, since that's what he did to me for telling him to get a new job a while back. :P

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah Attorney

Ah, making threats to an attorney general. Another brilliant idea from Thompson's Brain (tm)

How has he not been arrested yet?

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah Attorney

 

I know, isn't saying that someone is "deat meat" enough to at least get an arrest for uttering threats against a government official?

 

 

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah ...

Not usually. The worst it usually warrants is a bit of scrutiny to make sure you're not making an actual threat, and the FBI or Secret Service politely knocking on your door to ask you to tone it on the remarks that can be construed as threats.

-Gray17

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah ...

Which they repeatedly did in the past, remember?

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah ...

Yes, once that we know of. Though repeat offenders doesn't really fall under the "usually heading". And Jack spreads his offenses out against different people anyways, which likely lessens the alarm. He's not fixated on, or escalting against one person, he's a bag of hot air blowing around on many different people, bouncing from one person to the next.

-Gray17

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah Attorney

Probably because they're too scared they'll piss off some over-religious soccer mom that can potentially bring trouble down on them for arresting "a modern-day Man Of God."

Then again, the odds do seem a bit low. Anyone want to place bets?

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Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah Attorney

No clue... I think rather than want to spend more time with the bugger, they'll just buy a plane ticket and tell him never to come back.

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah Attorney

Come on now people, can't we just respect his unwillingness to give up?

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens to "Proceed" Against Utah Attorney

Oh, I can respect his tenacity.  That doesn't make him any less batshit fucking loco.

 
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