British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For U.S. Rampages?

April 6, 2009 -

With the United States rocked by a series of mass-murder incidents in recent weeks, Dalitso Njolinjo of The Moderate Voice wonders why the influence of video games, music and movies are often blamed for such events:

As an avid hip hop fan... When my favorite rappers veered into subjects of violence and gun play, my thought always seem to lead me to one question, how do they get these guns so easily? ...

I remember the Columbine High School massacre... Instead of having a serious conversation about gun crime and gun control, the majority of the news stories based on sensationalism. ‘The Trench Coat Mafia’, ‘they played violent video games’, ‘they were fans of Marilyn Manson’ and ‘they were fans of Natural Born Killers’... as soon as the conversation did veer towards gun control, the NRA would call foul play and blame someone in pop culture...

Fast forward to the aftermath of the Virginia Tech massacre, what did Fox News ‘journalist’ Bill O’Reilly want to talk about? [rappers]...

 

When anyone can purchase a fire arm with such ease and with impunity and thereafter go and take somebody’s life, someone somewhere has failed the victims.


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Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For U.S.

I will end this argument once and for all.

Guns are both tools and weapons. I hear a lot of people here honking about "It's only purpose is to kill." But in some cases, killing is okay. Hunting is an excellent example, using a gun in self-defense or against a criminal OR SCHOOL SHOOTER with a gun is also sanctioned killing. People can (and do) target practice with them.

BUT REMOVING THE TOOL FOR THE JOB WILL NOT PREVENT THE UNDERLYING DESIRE TO MURDER. I use "murder" here because it is different than killing. Murder is unjustified, whereas killing is a neutral concept. Banning guns will not solve anything at all.

In fact, the fear of getting shot is an excellent crime prevention method, which is why Switzerland has a low crime rate.

So STOP NOW.

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Really?  Excepting some special cases where people live out in the hinterlands, I hardly see hunting as necessary.  It's still killing, and while I'm not an animal rights person per se, I do fail to see the "challenge" in killing a deer from a long range with a rifle.  Use a bow if you want the challenge.

As for using a gun in self defense, I'd like to see a statistic of how many crimes have resulted in a person being injured because they went for their gun (as opposed to the criminal getting what they want, leaving relatively peacefully, and being apprehended later).

And removing the tool for the job will not, granted, remove the motivation to murder.  What it will do is remove the efficiency of that murder, and prevent an easy massacre.  An untrained individual with even a sword is not nearly as dangerous to others as an untrained individual with an gun, and in actuality a truly untrained individual with a sword has a fairly high probability of injuring themselves.

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Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For U.S.

" I do fail to see the "challenge" in killing a deer from a long range with a rifle"

 

Then you've never hunted. And people do hunt ofr sport. My father does so almost every year.

Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For U.S.

I live in Maine, so I guess that would qualify as the "hinterlands". And my argument was that your idea of "honk honk, killing is wrong, honk honk" is invalid; hunting is a legitimate reason for killing, self-defense is a legitimate reason for killing. Guns are also used for target shooting, something I do whenever I can; you TOTALLY IGNORED my points and made a straw man. Nice going.

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Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For U.S.

As for using a gun in self defense, I'd like to see a statistic

Here's some older stats about self-defense ("O" means offender, "SP" means self-protection: http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcdgeff_table7.html

from here: http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcdgeff.html

Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For U.S.

In some situations trying to defend yourself with a firearm can be a crappy idea, and can just make things worse, but in other situations it can save your life. If a person is going to own a firearm, they need to be taught how to judge when to submit and get their shit back later, and when to end it on the spot.

In some situations a mugger may just take your money and leave, while in other situations, a person may be more inclined to simply kill you. In such a case, a person wants to be able to defend themselves.

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Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For U.S.

The numbers of stopped crime because of armed victim are great but I fail to see your logic.

So a gun isn't best in every scenario of 'criminal attacks' but it is good in some scenarios is it not?

As for school shooters they can always use explosives (one guy did and racked up a bigger death toll than the Columbine boys, this being one person with explosives vs. two people with guns) of the home made variety or they can get guns from the black market.

Teachers (or in the case of colleges, students as well) being allowed to carry concealed weapons can also stop wanna be school shooters and it doesn't infringe on anyone's rights.

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Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For ...

All together now

The Columbine boys got their guns illegally.

More gun laws wouldn't have sopped Columbine.

Although I wonder what would happen if the colubmine boys didn't use guns BUT their home made explosives worked.

They tried to blow up the cafeteria during lunch time, what if the bombs worked killing most of the people inside.

This would've resulted in a bigger death toll obviously but what would've been the publics reaction?

Doom and rap would've been even less plausible scapegoats and gun control wouldn't have been brought up.

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Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For ...

 

hurrah, a common sense.  Thank you for pointing out that games or any medium are not the cause of massacre.  It was the gun, mental problems, and other factors that can make a person goes into a shooting rampage.

 

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Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For ...

Why the hell are they wanting to blame guns and not phycological health, parenting, and the people who commit the crimes?

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Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For ...

Because guns can be controlled. Psychological Health and parental responsibility (as we have seen evidenced by the 6 year olds who are allowed to play GTA) can not be controlled.

Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For ...

Because the ban on guns in the UK is working so well. You know, if you ignore the fact that gun crime ROSE in the following years (until 07, when they posted the first decline in gun crime since the ban). And also ignoring the fact that knives are actually responsible for the majority of crime in england, not guns, even before the ban. 

Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For ...

um nicely ignoring the fact that while 'knife crime' is heralded by the media as being responsible for the majority of violent crimes in the UK, comparitively, violent crime is actually pretty low in the UK.

Not high as you would like to portray.

Take the statistics for a city like London, and a comparitively sized city like new york.

Deaths due to violent crime are significantly higher in New York (proportionally) than in London. So.. technically the ban has worked well in the UK.

Ive lived here for 25 years and never once had to use, or ever been in the situation where i would have  used a gun. 

And it also brings to light the weakness of the 'if we ban guns from lawful citizens, all the criminals will run amok unchallenged' argument. In the uk its REALLY easy for police to detect criminals with guns, because as soon as somebody is spotted with a gun, they can be arrested, as there are few valid reasons for them to carry one. Also a community can easily spot when something is amiss. Is somebody obtains a gun, you pretty much know its uses are for no good.  

In 25 years i havent found my life threatened by criminals running unchallenged with guns.

 

Granted, in a country where guns already are presnent i so many homes, a ban wouldnt be as easy (or necessarily practical) to enforce.

However, please dont paint the UK as a picture of anarchy, death, and violence. You are SO wrong.

Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For ...

1) Where did I portray the UK as anarcy, death and violence? I made a statement about a statistic that was 100% true and without any commentary. Until recently, the years following the ban showed an increase in gun related crime.

2) 25 whole years? Wow... I've got that under my belt without ever using or being in a situation where i would have, and I consider that to be child's play. I know people who have lived in NY for almost 60 years and have never once used, or been in the situation where they would have used a gun. What does that prove? Nothing. Crime is a relatively rare phenomenon in the large scheme of things, and most people don't end up ever being a victim of anything more than a petty crime, let alone a violent one.

3) How many times have I seen a gun that wasn't in a store, or on display in a museum, or in the posession of police/millitary? None. Zero. Nada. If I saw a gun, I'd call the cops, regardless if there's concealed carry permits in the area. Do you really think that there's just a sea of people with guns? That the entire US is like a spegetti western with cowboys and shootouts at the quick-e-mart? I'm trying to find some exact statistics on it, but I can't seem to right now. But I believe it's somewhere between 2-5% of the population has a gun. It's hard to tell with number of guns per person, guns per household/family.

Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For ...

While I agree with your point stressing the fact that the US and England are not carbon copies of each with one having a charming accent and the other lacking one.

When you're examining statistics of crime in England, you also have to take into account the massive presence of a camera surveillance system that is unlike anything the US population has experienced.  I don't know enough of what the Brits think of that system or even the impact it has on their everyday lives but it merits being mentioned because it can and has been used to track down criminals. 

Which brings up the socio-economic differences involved in gun crime vs. knife crime.  Once again, I'm not an expert in this by any means and I'm sure someone could correct my argument if it's based on faulty knowledge.  If we're talking about the effectiveness of gun bans in preventing murders, isn't that also based on the willingness of a population to comply with bans or even existing laws?  Someone mentioned illegal drugs and we can put in all sorts of things including underage drinking, driving without a license, etc.  Many things that could have potentially fatal consequences because the person perpetrating the crime is circumnavigating the law in order to do so.

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Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For ...

Because each country is sociologically the same....

There are too many demographics (particularly in the US) to know whether any solution is the RIGHT solution.

Why not ban food? Particularly fast-food, since it seems the #1 cause of death in US is by heart disease and stroke? Granted its not about a crime against another human being... its was usually delt w/ equal emotional regard to guns in the past.

I am not calling you out, because as you put it, the ban worked for the UK.

But in a place as diverse as the US, there is really no easy solution, and no right/wrong opinion.

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Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For ...

England isn't a valid example really as even prior to the ban we do not have a culture of mass ownership of guns.

Personally, I think if the issue were as simple as 1 thing then it would have been sorted already.  People like Jack want it to be that simple but as soon as that fails to make a difference, they will go on to the next thing and the next.  It makes more sense to blame the availability of the tool of distruction than a piece of violent imagery, but banning guns wouldn't solve the problem either, merely changing the problem instead.

Personally I DO think removing Automatic rifles would be a positive step to help to try and curb the scale of such killings, but that alone would not prevent them from happening.

Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For ...

Um, as a rule "automatic rifles" are, as a rule, illegal to own.  You need a very special license for those.  Perhaps you meant 'semi-automatics'?  And I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of thise incidents are commited with handguns of some sort and not long guns (aka rifles).

I'll say it again, simply banning or making something illegal simply keeps it out of the hands of law-abiding citizens.  Criminals will still have firearms!

Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For ...

The issue is that legally owned firearms are targeted for theft too and sold on the black market.  I used to have a link to an article that had stats on the % of which are used in crime.  I recall it being quite a higher percentage than I was expecting.  If I can find it again I shall post it.

Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For ...

Yep. V-Tech was performed with a pair of semi-automatic hadguns the type that are commonly available. Very few mass killings are performed with automatic anything.

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Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For ...

Knife crime is an issue, yes. But Those people are going to try to kill anyways. Wouldn't it make sense that they keep to knives, rather than giving them guns to kill 20 times the number of victims?

Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For ...

No, no it doesn't.

Why? Because would be victims with guns would be able to kill the criminals... or at least scare them away with their guns...

case and point:

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/298989/a_gunfighter_sends_bandits_running/

Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For ...

 Frankly in a fight I would rather the person have a knife then a gun, I have a chance with in a knife fight one you have to catch me and two you have to get close to me.  A gun is a simple point and click interface to make people you don't like go away.

Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For ...

frankly, I would rather be shot by a 9mm than be stabbed by a 6 inch blade.

Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For ...

Same here,

also I would shoot back like this guy:

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/298989/a_gunfighter_sends_bandits_running/

Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For ...

Same here...

 

Also I would shoot back like this guy:

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/298989/a_gunfighter_sends_bandits_running/

Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For ...

Agreed.  And also, in close quarters, a knife is far more dangerous and deadly than a gun.

Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For ...

A point that continually is buried is that no matter what sort of laws or regulations you place on firearms, those measures will ONLY affect law-abiding citizens.  The jokers that want to perform illegal acts will not be affected.  Period.

To those the claim it will get them off of the street, I point to illegal drugs.  They're everywhere even though 'illegal', so how would it be different with firearms?

Perhaps if one of their victims were trained and permitted to carry, a different outcome would be reported.  It happens all over the country.

Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For ...

I posted this above, but Im going to post it here too, because I think it actually is a pretty good example of what I am arguing against when I argue for stricter regulation, even outright banning, of certain types of guns.

www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,512560,00.html

 "Poplawski feared 'the Obama gun ban that's on the way' and 'didn't like our rights being infringed upon,' said Edward Perkovic, his best friend."

I knew something like this was going to happen from the moment I heard people saying "Obama's going to take our guns, buy as many as you can! I want to protect myself and my family from the government!":

This guy had an assault rifle and several legally purchased, powerful handguns, and ambushed police as they responed to a call about his dog.

Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For ...

Okay, two things.  

1) CNN's article reports that this was in response to his mother trying to get the police to evict him from the house.  His MOTHER made the call, not him, and it wasn't a planned ambush like you seem to think.

2) He was legally barred from owning firearms.  He had been dishonorably discharged from the military for ASSAULTING A DRILL SERGEANT, which means he both A) committed a violent misdemeanor and B) was dishonorably discharged.  Which leads me to question who bought the guns for him... his mother maybe?

Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For ...

"

When they arrived at the home, Sciullo was immediately shot in the head. Mayhle, who was right behind him, was also shot in the head.

"It appears he was lying in wait for the officers," Harper said."

 

Yup. They weren't ambushed.. Not at all.

Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For ...

Austin said  planned ambush, not that the officers weren't ambushed at all...

Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For ...

He said it wasn't a planned ambush.  Chances are high that it was done at the spur of the moment.  And again, as people have said, this is a moot point as he no longer could purchase firearms legally.

Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For ...

But it was also stated that he owned these guns before he enlisted, unless my reading of the comments is incorrect.

Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For ...

He owned them before he joined up. He was paranoid that he was going to go to jail when someone found out.

Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For U.S.

While I think guns are pretty cool and shooting them is a lot of fun, I think handing them out to citizens is more trouble than it's worth.

At the moment I live in Australia. Very, very few people have guns here. They are extremely difficult to get. That being said, I feel safe living here.

I used to live in Atlanta, Georgia and walking out at night time was scary. You didn't feel safe because you know people out there have guns, and gun related murders happen all over the place.

Knowing that there were guns in America didn't make me feel safe. They made me not want to go outside, and that is a freedom I don't like being deprived of.

Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For U.S.

Shit, I don't feel safe in atlanta cause of the cops.

Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For U.S.

Take out the guns and you'd still feel unsafe in Atlanta, guns aren't the problem, the problem is crime and the causes of it, instead of a gun someone could just as well use something else.

Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For ...

I'm going to paste a response I made on newsvine following the recent shootings that took place.

I'm on the middle of the fence about weapon bans namely because I do feel sympathy for those who own weapons and use them and stores them responsibly having to suffer for the actions for the others. HOWEVER this issue MUST be addressed and some form of action must take place. Drugs are illegal yet it doesn't stop ppl from selling and obtaining them. I support a gun ban on paper but I do feel that a ban would actually make them more sought after due to vast # of weapons on the streets that will never be accounted for. But I am so sick and tired of a country that hands out weapons like toys and then is shocked and appauled when this happens. What is it that's so shocking? My theory is that to many folks their gun is a mental steroid that in their possession they think they are invincible. Take it away their balls of steel melt into liquid s**t. I will add I do support the right to protect your home and loved ones but I do feel the average American does not have the mental or emotional maturity to own a weapon. We still have knives and melee weapons but they can't cause nearly as much destruction as a low class firearm. Having said that, I do not blame the guns for these actions as they are inanimate actions but I do believe they are the main component for much of this problem and without that component many of these killing sprees probably would be avoided. Its sad that more ppl are concerned about gun rights than maybe possibly putting an end to senseless violence and death that has become all too common here. We got those Mexican drug wars and we bash them for being monsters but where is 90% of their arsenal coming from? Here! How often you hear about these incidents in other developed/civilized countries? But in the U.S. that's what scapegoats are for namely video games and TV. Most people against video games for being murder simulators what's their stance on tools made just for killing? None. IDK how these ppl can carry their agenda with a straight face. Another example is throughout the U.S. pit bulls are banned in certain areas. Why? because People use them for guarding drugs and fighting and see them as a public threat. Less than 100 people have been killed by pit bulls in the last 25 years. Not counting injuries and nonfatal bites. The death toll by guns is signifigantly higher. Obviously 1 is a bigger problem than the other yet the wrong one is banned under the name of "public safety" because if all pit bulls are banned and killed tomorrow, few would care but mention taking all guns and OMG everyone goes nuts and I blame the government for playing into this and going after a safe target than the taking action against the much greater problem so they can be reelected. But like I said how a gun ban probably wouldn't stop criminals and other ppl from acquiring them, the pit bull ban hasn't stopped the bad ppl from getting these dogs; it stops the good responsible ppl who treat them well, which is why I think a gun ban is probably only on good paper unless someone has a magic wand. I can maybe understand the selling of handguns for protection iffy on shotguns shotguns and hunting rifles for hunters but will someone be kind enough to explain why in the hell do our citizens need assault rifles and other similar weapons? That is just sick. To conclude this problem is getting way out of control and we either need to work on a solution of some kind or stop complaining about how horrible it is when these things happen. Simple as that.
 

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Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For ...

You mentioned it but you didn't get there all the way...

Drugs are illegal, there is a war on them, therefore they are very profitable to sell.

The drug cartels would disappear tomorrow if we ended the drug war, so would most of the gun deaths in this nation since the gangs and the rest of the pushers would be out of a job and have no mone y to buy guns...

You are right, bans would do nothing. When guns where banned in washington the gun crime rate skyrocketed...

IF guns were made illegal then the drug cartels would also become the gun cartels... and good people would be left defensless...

also automatic weapons have never been used in a crime except by cops...

Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For ...

"The drug cartels would disappear tomorrow if we ended the drug war"

That is a disturbingly naive sentiment.  Even if we suddenly legalized all narcotics, you think the cartels would go anywhere?  Hell, if the U.S. Government started selling narcotics itself, you think they'd go anywhere?

They'd go back to their storehouses to grab some bigger guns to address the new competition.

Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For ...

Ok, that was an oversimplification, but then so is you statement...

The only thing they would do is sell to other countries... but since we are their biggest market... they would be severly harmed... and as other nations legalized... the cartels would either disappear or become legitamite businessmen like the tobacco companies(either way its not like they could ever kill as many people as the tobacco companies...)

Also cartels and their leadership are taken out all the damn time... the reason new ones arise just as fast is the profitability of the illegal markets... if there was no profitability the new ones wouldn't arise while old ones either went legit or got wiped out...

So in short yes, end drug war, end cartels...

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I read your entire post, agree with many of your points, and feel you expressed them clearly and civilly.  Now I have a request.

PLEASE use line breaks next time.  Wall of text == painful =(

Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For ...

Last I checked the assault weapons that are legal come with more frees (like a few hundred) basically they are priced out of the ahnds of most people.

But it comes down to guns are not the problem remove them and bats and knifes will be next....well thats not quit accurate as the black market would have so many guns for sale anyone could get one cheaply if they are willing to go to jail.

So meh there is nothing much you can do but make permits  harder to get through better info gathering and make gun crimes harder. (like remove trigger finger).

 

 


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Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For ...

Zippy are you trying to say assualt rifle(by definition automatic) or semiauto rifle with cosmetic features?

Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For ...

"someone somewhere has failed the victims"

Yeah, and you know who it is? The person who pulled the trigger. It very well could have been a knife, or a fertelizer explosive, or their very own hands. THEY were the person who took a life, not some inanimate object.

Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For ...

You act like the Seung-Hui Cho, could have killed 32 people at V-Tech with a knife.. My god. The bottom line is, Yes, the person behind the gun is ultimately at fault, but the guns are the catalyst, enabling this person to kill 32, instead of 2.

Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For ...

Well, seeing how he killed a grand majority of his victims at close range while they were cowering, then yeah, I think he could have gotten close to that number.  At close range, a man with a knife is more deadly and dangerous than a man with a gun.

Also, have you even looked at cases of knife killing sprees?  2?  Really?

Re: British Writer: Why Are Games, Not Guns, Blamed For ...

Oh I don't know, seeing how you can stalk and kill people with a knife and do it silently, he could very well have killed just as many people, more if he wanted and could have easily done it. Easier than with a gun since that loud "bang" is fairly noticable..

 

Or he could have taken five minutes and looked up how to make a pipe bomb and killed A LOT more people.

 
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Matthew Wilsongoogle wont pay becouse they control a large part of the backbone that all isps depend on. if verizon blocks their data, google does the same. the effect is Verizon loses access to 40% of the internet, and can not serve some areas at all.04/24/2014 - 1:14pm
Neenekolack of NN is in google and netflix interest. It is another tool for squeezing out smaller companies since they can afford to 'play'04/24/2014 - 12:57pm
Matthew WilsonI have said it before net nutrality will not be made in to law until Google or Netflix is blocked, or they do what they did for sopa and pull their sites down in protest.04/23/2014 - 8:02pm
Andrew EisenGee, I guess putting a former cable industry lobbyist as the Chairman of the FCC wasn't that great of an idea. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/24/technology/fcc-new-net-neutrality-rules.html?_r=204/23/2014 - 7:26pm
Andrew EisenIanC - I assume what he's getting at is the fact that once PS3/360 development ceases, there will be no more "For Everything But Wii U" games.04/23/2014 - 5:49pm
Andrew EisenMatthew - Yes, obviously developers will eventually move on from the PS3 and 360 but the phrase will continue to mean exactly what it means.04/23/2014 - 5:45pm
IanCAnd how does that equal his annoying phrase being meaningless?04/23/2014 - 5:09pm
Matthew Wilson@Andrew Eisen the phrase everything but wiiu will be meaningless afer this year becouse devs will drop 360/ps3 support.04/23/2014 - 4:43pm
Andrew EisenFor Everything But... 360? Huh, not many games can claim that title. Only three others that I know of.04/23/2014 - 3:45pm
MaskedPixelantehttp://www.joystiq.com/2014/04/23/another-world-rated-for-current-consoles-handhelds-in-germany/ Another World fulfills legal obligations of being on every gaming system under the sun.04/23/2014 - 12:34pm
Matthew Wilsonhttp://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/04/steam-gauge-do-strong-reviews-lead-to-stronger-sales-on-steam/?comments=1 Here is another data driven article using sales data from steam to figure out if reviews effect sales. It is stats heavy like the last one.04/23/2014 - 11:33am
Andrew EisenI love RPGs but I didn't much care for Tales of Symphonia. I didn't bother with its sequel.04/23/2014 - 11:21am
InfophileIt had great RPGs because MS wanted to use them to break into Japan. (Which had the side-effect of screwing NA PS3 owners out of Tales of Vesperia. No, I'm not bitter, why do you ask?)04/23/2014 - 10:52am
RedMageI'm still disappointed the 360 never broke into Japan either. It had a bevy of great RPGs in the late 2000s.04/23/2014 - 9:48am
 

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