Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson Under CAN-SPAM Act

April 14, 2009 -

It seems as though Jack Thompson may have burned his final bridge in Utah - and turned a former political ally into an adversary in the process.

In an e-mail sent out earlier today, Thompson claimed that Utah State Senate President Michael Waddoups (R, at left) has threatened to have him prosecuted if the disbarred attorney doesn't stop sending him e-mails.

Waddoups, who presided over the Utah Senate as it overwhelmingly passed Thompson's video game bill last month, apparently became upset by an Easter Sunday e-mail in which Thompson attacked Utah Attorney General Mark Shurtleff.

As GamePolitics has reported, the disbarred Florida attorney and the popular Utah A.G. have been trading insults ever since the bill was vetoed by Gov. Jon Huntsman. On Sunday Thompson slammed Shurtleff in yet another e-mail which claimed that the A.G. is ignoring the sale of pornography to minors. That's a highly questionable assertion, since in this case Thompson is defining Grand Theft Auto IV as pornography.

To back up his point, Thompson included a screenshot depicting of a pair of strippers giving GTA IV protagonist Nico Bellic a lap dance. Why Waddoups reacted so strongly is not entirely clear, although it is possible that he was offended by the pic. Or perhaps he has grown weary of Thompson's persistent attacks on Gov. Huntsman and A.G. Shurtleff, both fellow Republicans. GamePolitics contacted Waddoups for comment, but the Senate President did not return our call.

In any case, Thompson supplied the text of an e-mail that he says he received from Waddoups earlier today:

I asked you before to remove me from your mailing list.  I supported your bill but because of the harassment will not again.  If I am not removed I will turn you over to the AG for legal action.

In response, Thomson re-sent the lapdance pic to the entire Utah legislature:

If you are offended by seeing this, as was Senate President Waddoups, then know that you should be more offended by the fact that Utah kids can buy the game in which there are repeated sexual encounters like this... 

You will apparently read in the Salt Lake Tribune tomorrow morning that Senator Waddoups has now threatened me with criminal prosecution by Mark Shurtleff for sending him “porn.”...  Mr. Waddoups now threatens me for alerting him to this... I look forward to my criminal prosecution in Utah...

GamePolitics readers may recall that Thompson has a bit of a track record for attaching actual porn - not the GTA virtual variety - to his e-mails. In 2007 a federal court judge and the Florida Supreme Court took him to task for doing so (see Judge Spanks Jack Thompson For Including Gay Porn in Court Filing).

UPDATE: The Salt Lake Tribune reports that Waddoups wants to pursue Thompson under federal anti-spam legislation:

Waddoups, on Tuesday, confirmed he would attempt to pursue legal action under the federal CAN-SPAM Act of 2003.

While that law carries a punishment of up to $11,000 in fines, it covers "e-mail whose primary advertisement purpose is advertising or promoting a commercial product or service," according to the Federal Trade Commission.

UPDATE 2: Predictably, Thompson has written to the U.S. Attorney in Salt Lake City, urging that Waddoups be prosecuted for violating his civil rights. The letter, which we have also received via e-mail, can be viewed in the comments to the Salt Lake Tribune story.


Comments

Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson ...

This guy is a fucking riot. He must want the guillotine that bad.

What we got here is failure to communicate!

What we got here is failure to communicate!

Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson

"If I am not removed I will turn you over to the AG for legal action."

More like,"If I am not removed I WILL FIRE MAH LAZAH! BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!" Shoop da Woop!

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Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson

Hold the fucking train.  So Jack, who has repeatedly threatened people who have emailed him, says that his civil rights are being threatened if he cannot spam this individual?  What the fuck?

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson

Well jackie already tried to have the have the AG of Utah impeached and removed becuase he would did not support jackie in the past.  Not much of a reach (at least for jackie) to try and impeach the Utah Senate President, er Um Mr. Waddoups.  Not even vaguely wise of course but this is never slowed john bruce before.  

Utah was almost in his grasp. 

Wondering if he is keeps it up if they will take back that award he got in Utah last year.  Bet that would get his attention.

 

Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson ...

Clearly the only solution when someone wants to bring you up on SPAM charges... is to send more e-mail... 

Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson ...

Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson ...

ROFLCOPTER

Wolf O'Donnell FTW!

Jack's fave quote. "What's the matter, scared?" -Wolf O'Donnell

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Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson ...

 And that's how Jack burned his bridges and removed any possibility of getting his legislation passed in Utah ever again...

ya seriously, this is hilarious since this is a perfect example of why Jack is his own worst enemy. Out of all the anti-game legislation created, the bill in Utah was probably the closest to a constitutionally sound bill, and yet because of Jack's antics, many Senate members will not want anything to do with him or support the legislation he helps create. He pretty much killed any kind of chance he might have had in Utah... It's kind of funny thinking that Jack might be a much more viable threat if he was just more civil. 

Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson ...

Funny thing is this is a part 2. Last time he was in Utah to pass a law, he got burned (surprised) and when crazy on the Attorney General. Now this time, he is starting to attack the Attorney General and the Senate President x.x  I would love to see a part 3...Jack vs the State....Jack loses.

Yeah, I agree though...he killed any chance of being welcomed into Utah. He claims he'll go to Louisiana and try there...however I'm sure they'll notice this little public embarassment.

Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson ...

You forgot to include the Utah Governor as a target of Jack attack... Also as for Lousiana, i'm not sure as states have an annoying way of ignoring Jack's antics outside their own state.

BUT, if i recall, Jack did quite a bit of bridge burning the last time he was down in lousiana... what with his demands that things be down his way, and holding back "evidence" and "experts" because they were not fighting "hard enough" to get his Bill passed... not to mention that the last time the bill did pass, but ended up getting shot down in court and costing the state thousands of dollars; and Jack was the one swearing to high heaven that it was constitutional.

Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson

LOOK!  He's whining again!  Check the comments in the Star Trib article.

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Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson ...

Quote from JT from the last article:

"The notion that I can't write the state's Senate president and encourage him to override a veto, that somehow this is criminally actionable, I just don't understand."

He doesn't get it. How can he not get it? He wrote to the Senate's president and then got confirmation that the president had read what he had to say. His problem is that he went on to spam the president with the same information again. And again. And again... Dozens of times, by his own admission in that article.

Also, I like in the end how he basically says that the image from GTA IV is not pornographic, when his whole argument is based on claiming that these games are pornographic...

Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson ...

Thompson also doesn't get the fact that the Utah Senate President doesn't have to listen to his whining, worthless ass since Thompson's a resident of Florida and is not and never was a resident of Utah.

Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Hornets, Jack Thompson can geaux chase a chupacabra.

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Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson ...

This is the 2009 equlivant to Thompson's Gay porn filing(This means the Truth in advertising law is not supported at all after what happened)

Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights

America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.

Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson

In an aneurysm inducing bit of irony, Thompson will claim a 1st amendment political speech defense. The ACLU, having once naming him censor of the year, will defend the impoverished lawyer. 

Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson

 

What? the ACLU added him on the censor of the year.  Never knew that.  Wow, Jack will probably add the ACLU to his conspiracy list and say that they support murder simulators.  Glad to see Jack is making a mockery of himself by doing this act.  I can't wait to see JT putting himself out of commission.

Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson

He said he was proud of the "award"

There have always been motherf*ckers, there will always be motherf*ckers, but what we can't do is let them control our motherf*cking lives. -John Oliver, December 1st, 2008

There have always been motherf*ckers, there will always be motherf*ckers, but what we can't do is let them control our motherf*cking lives. -John Oliver, December 1st, 2008

Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson

I would suggest Mr. Thompson to seek out the aid and stability of friends and family. Find a little peace and quiet. I would also suggest that he perhaps talk to a psychologist. Being upset so much about something that he feels pressed into sending another person emails, continuously, even when that person is starting to threaten that you stop, doesn't sound quite right. It reads somewhat like Mr. Thompson is unable to see or empathically feel another persons views the way most other people can, if these views collide with those of his own.

 

I've also read that Mr. Thompson will easily have the feeling that somebody is breaking his trust. That he would often question peoples "inner compass" of right or wrong, when it looks like they are considering his ideas, but found that there are issues left to be addressed or other problems with those ideas. Because this seems to have happened in the past already several times, it's a behaviour pattern he should also consider getting looked at.

 

Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson

You expect Thompson to feel for another? You haven't been here long, have you?

Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson

He pretty much fits Narcissistic personality disorder to a T, so it's VERY unlikely he'll ever get help as he will likely never understand that something is wrong with him.

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""e-mail whose primary advertisement purpose is advertising or promoting a commercial product or service," "

Somehow, I just think this is ironic as all Hell.

And considering all the threats he made to sue people if they continued to email him because he was getting notifications from LiveJournal about publically posted replies to his publically posted comments.

:: Leans back, puts feet up, puts hands behind head, and gets and comfy. ::

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Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson ...

Hey Utah, many people in the Videogame Industry know that this is what Jack Thompson usually does since he is now a Disbarred Lawyer.

Don't just sue him, throw that madman in jail and take away his internet rights.

That is the only way you could ever get rid of him.

Also take it from a few people from the Florida Bar who also had to deal with this jerk, Jack will never change. And he ever pays for his fines too.

TBoneTony

Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson

About time all that harassment came back to bite him, again.

Thompson doesn't just burn bridges. He runs onto a bridge, sets that end on fire from on the bridge, then runs to the other side, sets another fire while being so short sighted as to not get off the bridge, then can't figure out for the life of him why he's trapped between two closing fires, but then decides everyone else was out to get him

Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson ...

Dear Michael Waddoups,

Just block Thompson's email address.

Simple.

 

Sincerely,

Andrew Eisen

Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson ...

What if he actually has something useful to say? The guy doesn't know Jack well enough to know that will never be the case.

Has anyone ever noticed Jack is best at screwing up when we're not providing feedback on what he's doing wrong? ^_^

Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson ...

You know that won't work, he'd just start sending them from another source... I hope they've unplugged their fax machine.

Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson ...

CAN-SPAM act? Cue the Monty Python references!

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Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson ...

It would seem somebody needs to teach Jack the first rule of holes.  "When you find yourself in one, stop digging"

Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson ...

Giving someone your opinioin is Freedom of Speech and a Right.

Giving someone your opinion repeatedly, over and over in multiple formats, accusing anyone who doesn't accept your opinion as the only possible opinion of being some kind of traitor etc, those are harrassment.

It's entirely possible that, rather than it being anything in particular in that one letter, it was just that the Senate President had got utterly fed up with recieving continual communication from Thompson despite requests to stop.

Since Thompsons' Email's are purely to promote a failed law that he himself helped to write, something he made no secret of at the time, I would agree that his behaviour hovers dangerously close to promotional activity, though you'd have trouble proving it was a commercial venture.

Basically, Thompson's being an ass again, and, as with NIMF, he managed to make an enemy out of an ally through his sheer presumption and arrogance.

 

Edit: Of course, the funniest part is that the person who has made it far less likely that the law will be re-heard or the veto overturned is one of the group that tried to get it enforced, that's a nice little twist of karma, and not one the Eagle Forum will forget, I suspect ;)

Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson ...

Hahhahhaha

The CAN-SPAM law doesn't apply, btw, unless Jackhole advertised something other than his ego.

But it's good to know disbarrment didn't do a thing to Jackhole's ability to turn friends to foes in a hearbeat. Nice going Jackass.

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Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson ...

That is actually my main concern.  While he is annoying, I am not sure how the law will actually apply to him or if we even WANT it to apply since if it is a new application one can expect to see it used on others too.  I suspect we have another lawmaker who doesn't understand the law here.

Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson ...

The way he spams people with not-so-subtle threats and idiotic rants, promising bills and vindication/vengeance....one would almost would think he is a 419 scammer :P

"Sign this bill with me, and we'll get rid of this smut from everyone! Afterall; the video game industry, the florida bar, the gays, the FBI, and the US Marshals can't keep me down. This is a low risk venture...all I need is your promise of support...."

Yeah I agree with you. One would think disbarment would make him think about toning down the whole burning of bridges and attacking people that COULD HAVE been his friend(s)....hell he didn't burn the bridge. He soaked it with gasoline and naplam gel...then loaded the bridge with gun powder. Then he lit two sets of fuses...HIMSELF.

His tombstone will read: John Bruce Thompson; successfully shooting himself in the foot since the 1970's.

or would it be: This grave was dug by Jack Thompson himself, by himself, for himself.

Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson ...

He stepped on one end of that bridge, lit it up, ran to the other end, and lit that end up without stepping off of it, and can't seem to figure out why there are two fires edging toward him.

Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson ...

Maybe the bridge is made of stone, and Jack doesn't have the sense to vault over the railings into the lake of righteousness below.

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Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson ...

I'm pretty sure he mentioned his failure of a book a few times. Also, the fact that the only game he mentions is GTA4 just screams 'product placement'

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Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson ...

Well, he's technically promoting GTAIV, a commerical product.

Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Hornets, Jack Thompson can geaux chase a chupacabra.

Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Pelicans. Solidarity for the Saints = No retreat, no surrender. 2013 = Saints' revenge on the NFL. Even through the darkest days, this fire burns always.

Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson

The Utah Senate President is now officially the Lawlrus.


Goo Goo g'joob.

Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson

If it wasn't for the whole 'Team Rocket' thing earlier, I would have had to say you just won this discussion.

Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson

While I find this to be good news I can't decide if it is a testament to my representatives growing a set, or Thompson's supernatural ability to alienate anyone.

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Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson

a little of both i'd say

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Geez! He is really pushing his luck(again) with this. I personally won't be surprised if he Is taken to task by a judge for doing this. One would think that any half way sane man would know when he is pushing his luck and about to get in serious legal trouble with someone of the law;Then again Thompson has never struck me as someone half way sane. With every passing day he seems to blurr the already thin line between being classified as sane or Insane. He is just sane and civil enough *Snort* to stay out of the nut house. All it will take is one slip up on his part to have him classified as dangerously unstable. That being said, I hope that if such an event occurs that it does not involve violence, and less so caused or inspired by a gamer. Unfortunetly I can see, with the brush Mr.Thompson has painted himself with, him doing exactly what he has accused gamers of doing IE:playing violent videogames till he is ready to go somewhere and gun down some innocent people before shooting himself, all as some sort of sad and sick way of saying "I told you so. I told you I was right."  While I detest the things this man has done and the way he has gone about reaching his goal, I do not hate him, nor do I wish him ill.

 

Responsibility: Its time that the next generation takes up the reigns of power in our government, before the old fools who hold them steer this country of ours closer to capsizing. We must act before its to late to repair the damage.

Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson ...

Spam eh? Makes sense when you think about it, he does make about as much sense as an exiled nigerian prince...

Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson

And yet, he will still be treated as a reliable source elsewhere. *sigh*

Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson

Not with a potential arrest record for harrassment.

Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson

He's already got a restraining order against him, that doesn't seem to stop people.

Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson

From what I've seen restraining orders mean jack squat to most people are far as offense go.

Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson

True, keep forgetting it's the US we are referring to, I think restraining orders are far more common there, and therefore, lose impact.

Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson

From what I understand it doesn't take much to get a restraining order...

Re: Utah Senate President Wants to Prosecute Jack Thompson

Jack, you are your own conspiracy against you.

This Thompson will self-destruct in 3... 2... 1...

 
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