Hindus Protest PS2 Game Released in India

April 17, 2009 -

Sony, which has dealt with religious controversies surrounding Resistance: Fall of Man and Little Big Planet in recent times, faces a new faith-based challenge to a game designed for the PlayStation 2.

Hanuman: Boy Warrior, the first console game developed entirely in India, has sparked a protest by some Hindus, according to Web Newswire. The homegrown PS2 title was created for the Indian market by Aurona Technologies Limited, a firm based in Hyderabad.

U.S.-based Hindu spokesman Rajan Zed (left) criticized the game for trivializing the Hindu deity:

Zed... argued that reimagining Hindu scriptures and deities for commercial or other agenda was not okay as it hurt the [religion's] devotees. Controlling and manipulating Lord Hanuman with a joystick/ button/keyboard/mouse was denigration. Lord Hanuman was not meant to be reduced to just a “character” in a video game to solidify company/products base in the growing economy of India.

Rajan Zed further said that as a PlayStation2 video game, Lord Hanuman would be in the company of America's 10 Most Wanted, Bad Boys, Barbie, Britney's Dance Beat, First Kiss Stories, Guitar Freaks, Jackass, Killer7, Looney Tunes, Mafia, Mercenaries, Midnight Club, Mister Mosquito, Nicktoons, Psychonauts, Scooby Doo, Truckers, etc...

 

Zed suggested that India and all other countries of the world should come up with national content rating organizations for video games... [and said that] Video game makers should be more sensitive while handling faith related subjects...

Religious considerations aside, Hanuman was tagged with an awful review by Indian site Tech2:

The game boasts of being the first ever Indian game to be released on the PlayStation 2; if Indian developers are going to develop this sort of crap for consoles, let's hope it's the last.

UPDATE: Gaming Indians doesn't appear to think much of Zed's criticism of Hanuman:

Yes, Hanuman: Boy Warrior should be withdrawn by Sony. Not for religious reasons however, but simply because the game is just so bad. Ever since this game came out, I’m sure we’ve all been waiting for some Hindu fundamentalist to show up and make video games the enemy. But it’s quite funny that no one in India has really cared... while someone in America has taken up the charge...

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Like gee Golly, what did you say I dont understand hehehe I worship a cow, you need to understand Indians better we were citzens of the British Empire once you know! As I sit and worship a cow you should respect and understand my beliefs and understand India is greatest country ever! You also should respect how many jobs you lose to us and they way we do things like whip our butts with our left hands with no toliet paper thats why we only eat with our right hands but yet we still work at your Duncan Dounts and you like it!

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You gotta love the quote in the update: "Ever since this game came out, I’m sure we’ve all been waiting for some Hindu fundamentalist to show up and make video games the enemy. But it’s quite funny that no one in India has really cared... while someone in America has taken up the charge..."

It's just like when only white men were offended by Baby Got Back.

 

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Re: Hindus Protest PS2 Game Released in India

Just watched trailer for the game.

i wish i hadn't.

This makes daikatana look like Half life 2 or Halo 3.

 

"Science asks how, and faith asks why"

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It's not too bad for a company's first game. What sticks out to me the most is that the characters look very flat. There's no shading or depth to them. Programmatically, that's odd since it's usually easier to give polygons depth than it is to cast shadows with them (which the game has).

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"Hanuman: Boy Warrior"

WORST name of the century.

 

"Science asks how, and faith asks why"

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Re: Hindus Protest PS2 Game Released in India

"Rajan Zed further said that as a PlayStation2 video game, Lord Hanuman would be in the company of America's 10 Most Wanted, Bad Boys, Barbie, Britney's Dance Beat, First Kiss Stories, Guitar Freaks, Jackass, Killer7, Looney Tunes, Mafia, Mercenaries, Midnight Club, Mister Mosquito, Nicktoons, Psychonauts, Scooby Doo, Truckers, etc..."

Wow, this guy seems very familiar with PS2 games. Maybe he was just upset because the game was so bad.

Also, keep in mind that this is the same place that went nuts over Richard Gear kissing some Indian actress.

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To be fair, she is pretty hot.  It bothered me just looking at her pictures.  Or maybe I just got bothered.  Hmm.

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A national ratings system?  (I assume he meant international)  Yeah, what a great idea!  I mean, all the countries of the world already agree on everything else, how hard could that be?

"De minimus non curat lex"

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Rajan Zed further said that as a PlayStation2 video game, Lord Hanuman would be in the company of America's 10 Most Wanted, Bad Boys, Barbie, Britney's Dance Beat, First Kiss Stories, Guitar Freaks, Jackass, Killer7, Looney Tunes, Mafia, Mercenaries, Midnight Club, Mister Mosquito, Nicktoons, Psychonauts, Scooby Doo, Truckers, etc...

 

Anyone know what list he was reading off of?

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"Rajan Zed further said that as a PlayStation2 video game, Lord Hanuman would be in the company of America's 10 Most Wanted, Bad Boys, Barbie, Britney's Dance Beat, First Kiss Stories, Guitar Freaks, Jackass, Killer7, Looney Tunes, Mafia, Mercenaries, Midnight Club, Mister Mosquito, Nicktoons, Psychonauts, Scooby Doo, Truckers, etc..."

In other words, all games that suck. If you want to talk about good games for the PS2, there are tons of good ones.

When Jack Thompson runs his mouth, does anyone really care what he has to say anymore?

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Hey, don't talk that way about Psychonauts.

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"Video game makers should be more sensitive while handling faith related subjects..."

Or, alternatively, religious leaders could stop throwing bitch fits every time something even slightly offends them. And by offends, I mean references their religion without glorifying it.

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Well, that sucks.  Just released for the entertainment pleasure of the natives, and it's already getting screwed to the wall as a cultural failure.  Oh well...
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Tech2's comment is going a bit too far.  Everybody has to start somewhere.  You can't expect an industry to form out of nothing and immediately churn out the next Halo/Mario/God of War/whatever.

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 I agree; the game over all looks subpar but only because I am making a comparison against God of War, GTA, etc ... 

When I step back and think of it along the lines of if I had developed this with no experience and just starting out; then the feeling is different its look not bad for a first try game.  I doubt they will break even on sales but they have proven they can do the code now its just flesh out the character models, voice acting, and make the controls not look so stiff.

I would say its a good start and hopefully they will build off of it and get better.

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Shoot, it kinda makes me glad that no one has looked too closely at Xenosaga. Those games were awesome, but if a religious group had ever been able to get far enough in them, their heads would asplode once they understood the underlaying premise of the game.

I had a lot more here, some examples... but I deleted it because of spoilers. A lot of what happens and explanations get revealed only at the end, but let's just say there is a first person flashback to Jesus on Mt. Sinai.

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Xenosaga's AWESOME!!

It's true, there were a lot religious themes to it; but if you want the an earlier example;

*Minor Spoiler*

I believe about 1/3 thru the first game, they introduced the powerful artifact, the Zohar (is that right?), along with it's 12 emulators, of which, each is named after the 12 apostles.....

guess the last (and real) one's name?

I think because Xenosaga was a little under the radar that people did not realize that this game existed.

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Awwwh, their first game, and now their first game controversy?

They grow up so fast *sniff*.

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How long before someone posts a lengthy rant about the stupidity of religion?

Oh... wait, someone already did.

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Religion is pretty stupid.

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Because all the cool kids know being an atheist is where it's at.  And if you're a jackass about it on top of that, well, you'll be right up there with the best of them.

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Exactly, David. And it's even cooler when you attack the logic of other beliefs while simultaneously believing that lightning or meteorites striking the earth started life.

The fact of the matter is, every belief looks stupid if you're only goal is to insult them.

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Well, that's true, but then again no one who actually understands the concept of abiogenesis would describe it as "lightening or meteorites striking the earth" starting life.  In fact, the whole lightening-strike idea was never a serious theory, it was a motiff from mad-scientist-creates-life horror movies.  Abiogenesis is not a single precipitory event, it's a long process that opperates in roughly the same fashion as natural selection; there are physical properties of our universe, like gravity, that cause systems of ever-increasing complexity to form.  First you have space dust, then that gravitates together to form a nebula, then larger masses concentrate to form stars and planets.  All of the elements, increasingly complex forms of matter, are the result of hydrogen fusion in stars.  The elements combine to form compounds in the presence of heat due to electromagnetic forces and the weak nuclear force.  A given environment will result in large quantities of particular compounds forming, due to the elements present and the heat of the system.  These compounds react with each other to form polymers (sometimes; they will engage in any number of oxidatioon and reduction reactions depending on the environment) and some of these have nitrogen-base monomers bonded with a five-carbon sugar and a phosphor group.  What's special about these molecules is that they attract others of the same type in a very regular fashion because of their structure; they're self-replecating.  Of course, various compounds are also arranging themselves into non-replecating structures, as evidenced by the vast diversity in the chemical composition of the natural world.  But once you have a self-replecating structure, things just take off, and it only takes a couple of self-replecating constructs out of the near-infinate numbers of chemical compounds formed over the history of Earth as a planet to generate all of the rest of life.  See, abiogenesis isn't some single chance event, it's the INEVITABLE result of a universe with nuclear matter.

So, some beliefs look stupid no matter what, and some only look stupid when they're presented by people that don't know what they're talking about. :-)

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Atheism is over-rated.

 

Nihilism, on the other hand.....

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No,not really. It's the zealots and immoralguardians who use it to their own ends.

 

Should be a special sign: "Jack asses need not apply."

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So this game is like God of War for Indians? Only less naked and frat boy, and more... religious. What's wrong with that?

And when he said now Hanuman was "in the company of America's 10 Most Wanted, Bad Boys, Barbie, Britney's Dance Beat, First Kiss Stories, Guitar Freaks, Jackass, Killer7, Looney Tunes, Mafia, Mercenaries, Midnight Club, Mister Mosquito, Nicktoons, Psychonauts, Scooby Doo, Truckers, etc.", what's wrong with Scooby Doo and Psychonauts?

How dare he speak of Psychonauts like that.

Seriously Zed, shut up.

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How dare they speak of killer7 in a negative light? That game was pure gold!

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How does Nicktoons and Scooby Doo fit in all of this?

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three words: obscure multiplatform games

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Based on how much this bothers them, MegaTen would make them foam at the mouth.

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Shoot!!!!!

Well for a company in India who wanted to make videogames, there are always a few religius freaks who think they are better than everyone.

Also it seems that the people who are unhappy want India and the entire world to have Videogame Content ratings... but guess what?

We already have the ESRB in North America, the PEGI in Europe, the BBFC in the UK and the OFLC in Australia and New Zealand and also don't forget the Japanese CERO ratings.

I guess that in India, they get imported games from America so they would fall under the ESRB content ratings.

 

Also religious themes will always come up in Videogames, perhaps these people should have played the game before jumping to conclusions, but why do the right thing if it does not make any news headlines or cause controversy?

 

Sometimes people like them who bash a game that they have never played really make me sick sometimes when they tell the developer what to do when they have no real respect for Videogames at all.

Sorry but even though I feel for the developers in India, they should never really listen to people who bash their game without even playing it.

 

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