Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German Authorities

May 14, 2009 -

Bomberman and Nazis - how often do you see those two in the same headline?

Negative Gamer reports that a former German politician, Martin Budich, has been arrested for allegedly invoking violence against Nazis via the well-known video game character.

Budich, who opposes the Nazi agenda (good for him), apparently took his fervor a bit too far by exhibiting the protest poster at left on a website. The image shows Bomberman holding a cake with a burning fuse serving as the candle. The text translates to “No cake walk for Nazis.”

According to Negative Gamer's interpretation of a Heise report, Budich's posting of the Bomberman graphic has been blamed by prosecutors for contributing to an "aggressive atmosphere" at an anti-Nazi demonstration in Bochum last October.

This wasn't Budich's first bust on such charges. He apparently has an earlier conviction in a similar case (sans video game characters).

Via: Destructoid


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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

How dare they oppose inciting violence against a group of people because of their political opinion! Clearly they learned nothing!

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

Crack open any history book, it's not simply political opinions that make people hate them, it's much more than that.

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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

Who is inciting violence? An exploding cake is hardly a death threat. Unless they're frosting intolerant...


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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

I was under the impression that Nazism is illegal in Germany, as is Holocaust-denial.  What gives?

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

Depends on your definition of Nazism. The NPD is a legal party.

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

Can you elaborate any?

I admit as one who does not follow german politics, I am a bit confused by this too.  Is NPD simply nazi-like or is there a stronger (but legal) connection?  I found some talk about banning the NPD that fell apart because they screwed it up, so is it just a matter of 'not banned yet'?

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

In this case, probably a matter of 'not banned yet'. It's difficult to get anything to stick, because they're not nearly as openly fascist as the wikipedia articles claim. Unfortunately there's no legal ground to stop them until they're actually banned.

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

So... this is out from every consideration?

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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

Might I ask what it was?  I'm not questioning it being out, but rather what made it out.

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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

It was a poster featuring a charicature of Jack Thompson that implied some rather not nice things about him.

 

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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German

Any clean ones you can post? I'm still not seeing it.

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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

"Budich's posting of the Bomberman graphic has been blamed by prosecutors for contributing to an "aggressive atmosphere" at an anti-Nazi demonstration in Bochum last October."

Contributing to an aggressive atmosphere. At a Nazi/anti-Nazi demonstration. Did those words actually come out of somebody's mouth? Nazis are by definition aggressors. The atmosphere is automatically aggressive the second they show up. Also, I thought Nazi activities were banned in Germany.

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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

 Yeah right. Everything that happens at a right wing organisation's demonstration is automatically their fault, because they're the only ones capable of aggression. Even if someone throws stones at them.

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

nazi ei, national socialism the key word is socialsim,therefore nazi's are left wingers....

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

Nazism is said to be fascist not socialist... And fascism i believe is often placed on the right end of the political spectrum, being a form of conservativism

And when i think about some of the right wing nuts and how intolerant and hateful they often come off as, and think makes for the ideal citizen to them... take that hate to it's logical extreme... it does sound about right more or less

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

Left and Right are defined relative to current vs earlier states.  Socialism in and of it'self is neither.

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

You can't easily put the Nazis in either the left or right.

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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

How about putting them in the wrong?

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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

That's what I do.

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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

They are Nazis. That should be all that needs to be said.

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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

Now what does promoting violence against others because of their opinion make yourself?

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

If someone had a gun to your head, I'm assuming that you would politely ask them to stop, because hitting them or taking the gun away would persecuting them for their opinion.

I, on the other hand, would recognize that the gloves are now off. That's just what the Nazis want too, a gloves off situation. And when your opinion is that Jews and other "lesser" races should be exterminated or act as servents to the superior Aryan race, then I frankly don't give a fuck about protection of opinion.

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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

If someone had a gun to your head, I'm assuming that you would politely ask them to stop, because hitting them or taking the gun away would persecuting them for their opinion.

Because that's clearly the same situation.

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

Gunman: Wants you dead.

Nazi: Wants you dead (if you fall into certain racial catagories).

Sounds like the same thing to me.

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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

How do you know, if the people at this demonstration want anyone dead?

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

Are they Nazis or are they not Nazis.

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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

The way you use the word? No.


Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

Yes, they are. Look above. Also, I'm done with you. I don't give a shit if you are a Nazi sympathizer or just somebody who is way, way to politically correct, but I just can't even stand you anymore. It's not like I need to argue anymore either. You can keep spouting your garbage, but I doubt it will convince anyone here that the NPD aren't Nazis, or that they should be protected from "aggressors".

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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

They're bad enough as it is. Baselessly claiming they want to put large groups of people into death camps doesn't make them look stupid. All it does is give them examples of how the claims made against them are completely baseless.

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

Ah, so they aren't Nazis, they are just misunderstood? ***

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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

Care to back up your claim, that they want to exterminate/kill/put into death camp all jews/non-Germans/whoever? Because I think, the only reason you're getting so aggressive is, because you just realized, that you can't.

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

You first, since you're the one claiming they aren't Nazis because they changed their name. Prove they aren't Nazis and you've proven me wrong. Should be easy since according to you they aren't, right?

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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

I never said that they aren't Nazis. I said, they didn't plan to create death camps or kill people. They aren't banned in Germany. If they ever indicated such a thing, they would be in no time. How else could I possibly prove the nonexistence of something? Send you a copy of everything said and written by any human on the planet after the second world war? Why don't I disprove the existence of God and invent faster-than-light travel as well, while I'm at it?

I also never said, that they 'changed their name',  because that's just clueless nonsense. The NSDAP ceased to exist in 1945, a successor organisation was banned in the fifties and the NPD was created in the sixties. They didn't 'change their name' because they never had any other.

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

What? I thought the whole point of the many arguments you've been making is that they weren't Nazis. How do you know they arn't, are you a member who gets the weekly newsletter? Your argument is circular, all you can do is fall back on the fact that no one can outright prove them to be nazis despite the fact so many people believe them to be so. Why weren't they banned in Germany again? Did it have to do with the merits of the case against them or the fact that government agents were investigating them and were inside.

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

The NPD will have its 50th anniversary in a few years. Five fucking decades, and noone can prove anything. Clearly, this must only be for lack of trying.

Also, the whole point was, that they don't want to kill anyone and don't want to put up death camps, contrary to what was claimed here multiple times as a lame, baseless excuse for violence against them. You know, I think I might have clarified that already in another comment. Or several. Seriously, are you guys all dyslexic or something? I can draw a picture if you like.

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

Don't take this personally, but the Neo-Nazis of today stand largely for the same ideals of the Nazis of the past. I do live in Germany, I am a politically active person, and I know what I am talking about. Given the power, so many of them would actually want to go *back* to the third reich, it's outright scary and hilarious at the same time. There might be some smart people among them, but I'm afraid they want the impossible. And way too many of their followers would gladly have another genocide on their hands, at least that's what they say. I don't know if all of those who want it would actually do it.

But posting here and even doubting or denying what these people want on the long run, what their motivations really are, what they stand for, that's an insult. I dare you try that on any German forum. Except the Neo-Nazi owned ones, of course.

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

 Because clearly the best indication of truth is public outrage.

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

You're not required to read or believe our thoughts on the matter. Just as we're not required to do the same. You realize that you won't be swaying anyone to your way of thinking yet you persist anyway. A for effort. Though given your condescending attitude when presenting with people you believe to be inferior I'll have to knock it down to a B. There's your grade for the day, good job.

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

Only if you're a decent cartoonist. If your drawing skills are anything like your debating skills I'd rather not.

Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

Help, help! I'm being compressed! 

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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

HEY!  Go find your own catch phrase!!! 


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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

*suffocates*

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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

Actually, I was just saying it because you were biting.

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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

No! They are Sizan's! Completely different, honest! Look, not the same name and everything!

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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

There was a group of kids at my high school who called themselves Sizan. And yes, they were Nazis.

But yeah, there is no doubt that these guys are 100% Nazi. They idolize Rudolf Hess, and apparently have some connections with white supremacists in the US.

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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

Because they are Nazis. It's not rocket science.

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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

It was really 2 demonstrations, one by Nazis, and a counter demonstration by anti-Nazis. GP just didn't get their facts straight on this one, something they seem to be incapable of doing with any Germany related story.

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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

Give Den a break it's not like he can speak German

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Re: Bomberman Graphic is a Threat to Nazis, Say German ...

Now here comes the funny thing? How do you know, they are Nazis? Because some poster you saw on the internets says so. Funny.

 
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