At Shareholders Meeting, Target Gets Targeted by PTC Over Violent Games

If what your doing is drawing the wrath of th Parent Trash Cult, then you should wear that as a badge of honor. Getting criticized by a group like this is like getting hate mail from Hitler. They are terrible, sleazy people who want to erode the first amendment.

I need to know more details- percentages and fractions can be very fickle things.

Example- 1 guy eats a cake and 1 doesn't eat any cake (because the first guy STOLE the cake... fucking cake-stealing eater...): 50% of the people present ate cake.

But!


9/10 people eat cake at a party, because 50 people showed up- but alot of the people who wouldn't have eaten cake weren't invited, because they're stupid and dumb, because they hate cake. (stupid dumb cake-haters...) If they'd shown up, there'd be more stupid dumb cake haters who wouldn't have eaten cake, and thus screwed up the numbers.

The best way to get good percentages is to use the fewest amount of people possible while still getting an odd number to base a percentage off of, and then using drama and "BAAWW" to inflate the significance of that number. :D

Man, you guys are flying off the fucking handle again. Yeah, I'm sure these stings are probably flawed in some way, whatever. The point is, some not insignificant amount of 'underage' kids were able to buy games, that by store policy, should not be sold to them. It's not illegal in any way, but they probably could do a better job of upholding their policies.

And of course, there's that line about parents having the right...blahblahblah, yeah, no such right exists.

I'm also curious how this is an industry-wide dilemma? Unless he's talking about the retail industry, that's a possibility. 

It doesn't mean much to say Target was worse than an average score involving Target.  It would be more reasonable to simply rank the individual stores.  Without the context of the study, the numbers are meaningless.  If it is Target's corporate policy to not sell "M" games to those under 17, than this PTC attention-getting drama may be a wake-up call.  If I were able to, I'd recommend Target to take their own studies.  Target needs to verify their inventory flags to ensure they are actually working, and then perform the same study with their own secret shoppers.  You simply cannot take a "street sting" as proof, but you can take it as a hypothesis.  PTC should tread carefully with big-box stores, or they may simply stop caring about age verification and let the parents do their own job.

I'm always extremely wary of these 'stings' because I've yet to hear how they're performed. Who are they sending it? If it's all baby-faced, obviously 13 year old kids, that's one thing. But people age differently; when I took my brother to see Sin City, he was 17, I got carded- I was 23- but he didn't, because he's a lot bigger than I am. I've seen plenty of teen males with lots of facial hair, or teen girls who look older than I am now, at 27- sometimes it's makeup, sometimes it just happens.

Go eat some shit, PTC. You don't contribute anything meaningful to the discussion about media in our lives today, you merely act as a mouthpiece for lazy parents and Judeo-Christian moralizers who want everyone else to believe the way they do.

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I don't buy that 41% number at all.  The friggin' computer system at Target automatically flags the purchase of M-rated games- requiring the cashier to verify age.

Of course, this is the same organization that lied about the WWE and got their ass sued by Vince McMahon.  If only the games/retail industries had the kind of BALLS Vince has, perhaps the PTC could be silenced...

"Parents have the right to expect that age restrictions for adult entertainment products will be enforced at the retail level..."

Wrong.  No such right exists.  Furthermore they aren't age restrictions they are age recommendations.  As there is nothing enforcing it as a restriction if a store so wanted to they could offer a discount on all M rated games to everyone 16 and younger, and all that people such as the Parents Trash Council could do is whine about it.

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-