On Eve of E3, Hindus Call For Worldwide Sony Boycott

June 1, 2009 -

Angered by Sony's failure to recall a PlayStation 2 game which they find offensive, a group of Hindu leaders have called for a worldwide boycott on Sony products. The move comes on the eve of Sony's E3 press conference here in Los Angeles on Tuesday.

As GamePolitics has reported in recent weeks, Rajan Zed (left), a Hindu leader who lives in the United States, is spearheading the protest against Hanuman: Boy Warrior. In addition to Zed, today's announcement identifies seven other Hindu leaders from Australia, India and the U.S. Zed and the others believe Hanuman is an affront to the Hindu faith and they recently threatened to call for a boycott if Sony did not pull the game from the market. Today's announcement signals that Sony has not given in to their demands.

A press release issued earlier today announced the boycott, citing what the group calls the "stiff-necked attitude of Sony officials":

Vexed by stiff-necked attitude of Sony officials, various Hindu groups have given worldwide boycott call against Sony PlayStation products...

 

Zed, who is president of Universal Society of Hinduism, in an earlier statement, said that in a video game set-up, the player controlled the destiny of Lord Hanuman while in reality the believers put the destinies of themselves in the hands of their deities...

 

Hindu leaders communicated their displeasure to Sony and tried to resolve the issue through discussions, but callous attitude of Sony officials frustrated their efforts, leaving them with no other alternative except the boycott call.

It is unclear what impact the call for a boycott might have. Hanuman is the first console game developed entirely by an Indian firm.


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Re: On Eve of E3, Hindus Call For Worldwide Sony Boycott

I wish the world-over would boycott sony and their mass of lies and terrible business manner.

Re: On Eve of E3, Hindus Call For Worldwide Sony Boycott

GP, unless this is a group that universally speaks for all Hindus, you should change the title. It'd be like assuming a vatican order from the pope spoke for all christianity, when it is only a single faction of Christianity, and only part of that faction accepts the vatican as authoritive.

The title is like saying "Muslims call for jihad", when it's only a group of psychos using islam as a weapon.

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Re: On Eve of E3, Hindus Call For Worldwide Sony Boycott

Isn't this kind of like Christians boycotting stripclubs? The really devout don't do it anyway, and the not so devout will probably ignore it. In the end, it likely won't make more then a 0.01 percent difference.

Re: On Eve of E3, Hindus Call For Worldwide Sony Boycott

This leaves me wondering if it is just a bid to gain attention.  I mean to have a boycott at the same time as electronic toys for adults Is likely to garner them some notice.  Though little of it good.  Btw does anyone know what exactly their issue is with Sony?  If it just that title; battle of the various dieties thing (name eludes) which sounds like it belongs on South Park then at least try to focus your displeasure.  Ah well. 

If they called for a boycott of EA I might go along (yep I dislike EA that much). 

 

Re: On Eve of E3, Hindus Call For Worldwide Sony Boycott

1. From my understanding none of the "leaders" involved actually live in India, now that we have a list that may have changed.

2. None of these stories has once referenced the leaders taking opposition to an element within the game making it questionable that any one of them has played it at all much less to completion.

3. It was my understanding that this was a game being developed by Indians, for Indians for release in India.  A somewhat limited market to begin with, coupled with the fact that it was released on the PS2 and not the PS3.

4. I'm almost betting that Sony has a provision in their SDK and Liscense that permits them to withdraw a game from sale for specific reasons.  Likely things like making a game where the sole purpose is to bash sony or perform some kind of illegal activity but outside of those reasons I would imagine that the developer could sue for breach of contract if Sony tried to pull it without a legit reason.

 

Re: On Eve of E3, Hindus Call For Worldwide Sony Boycott

I call for the boycott of stiff-necked religious idiots.

Re: On Eve of E3, Hindus Call For Worldwide Sony Boycott

I thought the game sucked. They're making a deal out of nothing.


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Re: On Eve of E3, Hindus Call For Worldwide Sony Boycott

I never understood how any rational people believe magical, invisible people watch over and influence their lives.  But they do, and I can deal with that.

However, once these folks start trying to force the rest of the world to change their ways for the convienience of these invisible, magical being...then I get pissed.  At some point, everything in the world offends some religion or sensibility.  There is no way to create a planetary culture in which nobody is offended all of the time.  Shit, even many "devout" atheists act the same way- getting offended if they even have to look upon a religious image- because it offends their precept of the nonexistience of the invisible, magical beings.

Religious folk, including the religion of Atheism (fanatical belief in not believing) need to take a chill pill and put things into perspective.

Re: On Eve of E3, Hindus Call For Worldwide Sony Boycott

It's quite sad actually, you never hear about the religious people that don't go ninja and flip out and do something stupid.

Which name do you recognize with more familiarity? Jim Jones or Mother Teresa? Do you hear about the religious adherants that fly to other countries and spend a decade of their lives working to better the lives of others - that don't believe the same way?

I can promise you this: For every jackass using religion - including atheism - as a weapon, there are more than fifty that the very second the jackassery is commited, are from their religious beliefs, doing something for good and expecting no repayment, no conversion, nothing in response.

Westboro is a group of less than 1000 people out of a group of over 1,500,000,000, according to wikipedia. They get more attention than most larger groups. You don't hear of the charities given by catholic hospitals, of protestant groups fundraising for HIV awareness, of people actually living by their religion.

Re: On Eve of E3, Hindus Call For Worldwide Sony Boycott

Two things wrong with your post. First of all..

A) People hear about Mother Teresa quite a bit and

B) There's quite a bit of really bad stuff associated with Mother Teresa that if it was talked about more the perception of him in the popular mind would be dragged through the mud? How much stuff is there? Enough for there to be a whole hour long episode of "Penn & Teller's Bullshit" about it.

Re: On Eve of E3, Hindus Call For Worldwide Sony Boycott

I think it would be a double-episode special actually. She really, really, really wasn't a very nice person at all.

Re: On Eve of E3, Hindus Call For Worldwide Sony Boycott

This is why agnosticism is the best!

"What?  God?  Oh...I dunno."  /shrug

=D

Re: On Eve of E3, Hindus Call For Worldwide Sony Boycott

Ah, the self-appointed spokesperson for every Hindu ever still wants to feel like hes a big player.

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Re: On Eve of E3, Hindus Call For Worldwide Sony Boycott

Sony has nothing to do with this game. India made it not america, they should be boycotting the indian developers instead. No sense of humor from Hindu leaders. It's not suppose to be poking fun at Lord Hanuman. Religious leaders have hearing problems. IT'S JUST A FARGIN' GAME! I mean damn, there have been games that focus on real life historic figures & most of them no one complained about them.

What we got here is failure to communicate!

What we got here is failure to communicate!

Re: On Eve of E3, Hindus Call For Worldwide Sony Boycott

since when was sony an american company? Where does the article mention anything to do with america? since when were idiots in control of making products to be sold to the masses not populating the entire world?

Crap comes from everywhere. im looking at you.

Re: On Eve of E3, Hindus Call For Worldwide Sony Boycott

I'm going to have to side with Sony on this one (surprised?).  Just as with the Manchester Cathedral incident, they are not in the wrong.  They are well within their legal and moral right to release content that may offend people.  The fact that those people find it offensive is not Sony's concern and nor should they cancel an agreement with that developer because of it.

@Untouchable: Actually, they have quite a bit to do with it as a console manufacturer.  It's released on their console, with their logo, through their certification process, by using their developer-exclusive SDK and debug equipment which they provided.  And if I'm not mistaken, they are able to pull it from stores.

Re: On Eve of E3, Hindus Call For Worldwide Sony Boycott

All correct.  Sony can't cancel the development of the game, per se, but they can pull the licensing for PS2 release.  Which is effectively canceling it.

I'm not sure if there's something in the contract that would prevent the developer from turning around and asking Microsoft if they wanted to license it for the Xbox.  Not that I would expect anything of the sort to happen.

Re: On Eve of E3, Hindus Call For Worldwide Sony Boycott

My question to any of the hindu leaders (7 of 8 of them dont appear to live in India)

"Have you played the game?"

Re: On Eve of E3, Hindus Call For Worldwide Sony Boycott

How bout we boycot companies using Indian Call Centers?

 

Or how bout calling Indian Call Centers Pretending your a farmer skinning and killing cows, they end up pissed or crying ^_^

Re: On Eve of E3, Hindus Call For Worldwide Sony Boycott

If we boycotted companies using Indian Call Centers, we'd be boycotting nearly everything.  Hell, I had a complaint about a local Burger King (somehow, my bill was 30 dollars, and I bought 5 dollars nd change worth of food), and when I called 'corporate', there were a lot of hindu-sounding people on the phone.

Re: On Eve of E3, Hindus Call For Worldwide Sony Boycott

"the player controlled the destiny of Lord Hanuman while in reality the believers put the destinies of themselves in the hands of their deities"

No, the player controls the destiny of a digital representaion of Lord Hanuman, and the believers put their destinies in the hands of imaginary buddies. This guy really has trouble differentiating between reality and fantasy, doesn't he.

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Re: On Eve of E3, Hindus Call For Worldwide Sony Boycott

Or fantasy and... other fantasy

Re: On Eve of E3, Hindus Call For Worldwide Sony Boycott

Not to sound like a troll or an arse, but....who gives a fuck?

It's one game! One! Made for the PS2, by an Indian developer! And the game was shit, anyways! So they misrepresentated the role of a deity, and the worshipper-deity relationship: so what?!

Whatever. Like these jackholes will make even the slightest dent in Sony's profits. Boycott 'em, if you want: it won't. Fucking. Matter.

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Re: On Eve of E3, Hindus Call For Worldwide Sony Boycott

Add this game to the list of "games more non-gamers talk about than gamers". Manhunt 2 will have some company now.


Re: On Eve of E3, Hindus Call For Worldwide Sony Boycott

Oh for f.....

 

Why do they not understand that Sony has absolutely nothing to do with the game other then it being released on the PS2?

IMA FIRIN MAH LASER!!!

Re: On Eve of E3, Hindus Call For Worldwide Sony Boycott

I don;t see why they're so pissed off, I mean is was INDIANS, who entire country's religion is hindu, that made the game.

http://www.magicinkgaming.com/

Re: On Eve of E3, Hindus Call For Worldwide Sony Boycott

Actually, that's not true at all.  Go to India or do some research. 

Re: On Eve of E3, Hindus Call For Worldwide Sony Boycott

You should be a little more specific, as your rebuttal, which was intended to address the second part of the above post, could be misinterpreted as addressing the first.  Which is quite true (the game was made by an Indian firm).

As for your response itself, India IS a predominantly Hindu nation.  The hyperbole might've been a little overboard, but the sentiment is correct.

Re: On Eve of E3, Hindus Call For Worldwide Sony Boycott

Now why this group is so concerned about this game that is only note worthy BECAUSE of them, but show no concern about Mega Ten is beyond me. They really should be calling for an Atlus boycot, way more blasphmy there.


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