Germany's Interior Ministers Ask Bundestag For Total Ban on Violent Games

June 5, 2009 -

It appears that Germany's 16 Interior Ministers have banded together to ask the Bundestag (Germany's equivalent of Parliament) to ban the production and distribution of violent video games. Moreover, the ministers hope to see this accomplished before Germany's new elections take place on September 27th.

Although we're hampered a bit the language barrier, GamePolitics has received this information today from three German readers. Their accounts appear to coincide with this Google translation of a Spiegel Online report.

The move comes during a scheduled conference of interior ministers. School shootings, in particular the March 11th rampage committed by a 17-year-old in Winnenden, were prominently mentioned in relation to the group's demand for a ban on violent games.

If passed, such a move would affect not only German game consumers, but German game developers such as Crytek (Far Cry, Crysis). Under the proposed law, Crytek would apparently need to outsource development of violent games or even relocate its operations to another country.


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Who the heck are you replying to?  <.<

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Apparently, a fake JT...

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Heil Deutschland!

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You know, I think they should just require labeling them with something that would clearly identify them as undesirable.

A yellow badge would probably be ok.

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Nice joke. I wonder how many people would fully understand it.

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Is it a Nazi Joke?

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If you paid attention to history class, yes.

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yeah like a yellow star or something

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Best. Comment. Ever.

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 Considering how hard Germany has been hit by the depression it seems very odd anyone in the government would be saying "Oh no thank you we couldn't possibly use your tax revenue".

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If this goes through, I expect an outflow of game industry types flowing to new countries. Wouldn't blame them in the slightest.

 

What are the odds of a black-market game-sale cropping up?

 

 

 

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I think the odds of a black market are near zero.

Things follow the course of least resistance. Piracy is easier.

 

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Actually, assuming the ban goes through in Germany and only there, it's rather likely. Many German gamers buy from other countries or online if they're gimped by the edits made. In GTA 3, for example, you can't kick people when they're down, which makes melee near useless and one mission very difficult. Solution? Buy it in Austria.

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Is that in just one version? That's rediculous!

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Err normally I would say very high but then with Germany banning sales I doubt that comapnies would be willing to make games in German so there's probably going to be a black market but only amongst Germans that can speak languages besides German.

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 Here comes the mafia lol

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There are a decent handful of German-speaking countries in Europe that would probably still be able to justify the cost of localisation without Germany itself.

Then again, an awful lot of Europe is multi-lingual.

/b

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Because we all know there would be no real life violence if there were no violent video games. (sarcasm)

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If it wasn't for those damn vidya gaymes, World War II would've never happend.  /sarcasm.

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Besides, violence copied by violent media is inferior to the original violence. Violent media is a observation of real life violence. It's like making a photocopy of a photocopy :p


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Yeah, I remember when violence first started.  It was in 1971 not long after Computer Space was first created.  All the people with spaceships started shooting at each other after playing the game.  Now nobody has spaceships anymore because they were all destroyed.  Look at how our utopia's crumbled.  Now we can only play pretend spaceships.

But seriously?  Germany, define "violence".  Most games involve SOME form of conflict, as do films, books... anything entertaining, really.

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Psssst...Crytek...

-points to Charlotte, NC-

You are welcome here anytime, dudes.  ^^

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come to michigan. detroit or the metro detroit area. stardock is here.

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Agreed. Actually, Ann Arbor is really booming right now and has lots of people that want to be engineers and the like (with U of M right there). Anywhere in South-East Michigan would be awesome.

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Screw that. They can come here to Cary and hang out with Epic.

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I'd invite them to California, but we'll have to wait until we get rid of Schwartzeneggar.


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I've got a pool of molten metal in my backyard you can use.

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Come to tampa, florida crytek. We'll give you all the orange juice you want ;P

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Here in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada has plenty of room :)

 

We only have Bioware here, I am sure there is room for more :D

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Come down to ole Chatternuga, because we have...

uhh...

there were those things...

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... Come down, because you won't have any local competition!

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Crytek should set up shop in Louisiana. Tax breaks, and all the crawfish you can eat.

Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Hornets, Jack Thompson can geaux chase a chupacabra.

Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Pelicans. Solidarity for the Saints = No retreat, no surrender. 2013 = Saints' revenge on the NFL. Even through the darkest days, this fire burns always.

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Crap...you win. Mmmmm crawdads....

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Charlotte's in the middle of trying to attract Apple Co.'s business.  It's not a huge step to go from enticing one tech giant to getting a company like Crytek on board.

Also...and this isn't something I see as a selling point, but apparently...we has NASCAR... <.<;

 

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Come to Wisconsin, and get all the beer, cheese, brats and motorcycles you want.

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Also, you'll be in one of the most boring states in the country!

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never heard of Summerfest have you?

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There may be a good reason for that.

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Summerfest is America's Largest Music Festival and is held in Milwaukee.

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Well, I'm originally from Chicago, so I'd URGE Crytek to go there, but Charlotte has...um...crap...

...y'know what?  Crytek, go to Chicago.  I'll meet you there.  ^^

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Can I be the most strange one and ask them to come to Dothan, Alabama?

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 Come to Texas. Good incentives and other game companies to work with. You can join Bioware, Retro, Gearbox, id software, 3D Realms, and Pi studios down here. The more the merrier.

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Forget that noise! Come to Seattle, WA! We got coffee and lots of clouds!

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Come down to ole Chatternuga, because we have...

uhh...

there were those things...

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... Come down, because you won't have any local competition!

 
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