Louisiana Bill Targeting Sexually Explicit Games Dies in Committee
Louisiana Bill Targeting Sexually Explicit Games Dies in Committee
June 19, 2009
Louisiana Senate Bill 152 began life as a clone of Jack Thompson's failed Utah legislation and died quietly this week in the Commerce Committee of the Louisiana House, according to The Old River Road, a blog which tracks Louisiana politics. Although we haven't yet seen a post about SB 152 at TORR, blogger Charlie Buras dropped us a line via Twitter last night to say the bill expired in committee.
Between birth and death SB 152 was completely reworked by its sponsor, Sen. A.G. Crowe (R). As for Thompson, he was nowhere to be seen in the process. The truth in advertising legal theory advocated by the disbarred Miami attorney quietly morphed into proposed civil sanctions against those who would distribute sexually explicit material to minors. The need for such legislation is not entirely clear, since such conduct is already an offense under Louisiana criminal law.
Although Crowe's Senate colleagues passed the bill overwhelmingly, House members seemed less impressed. At a hearing earlier this week the bill was diverted to the Commerce Committee.
UPDATE: The Times-Picayune has more details, including word that the Commerce Committee voted 12-2 to kill the bill. The estimated $1.6 million cost to administer the bill didn't help any. (GP: thanks to longtime reader BearDogg-X for the link!).
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Posted 11/07/09 at 04:27pm
ZippyDSMlee: man I got alot of junk and dup files too >< god I need orginization...and no not the knee capping media mafia kind :P
ZippyDSMlee: man I got alot of junk and dup files too >< god I need orginization...and no not the knee capping media mafia kind :P
Posted 11/07/09 at 04:26pm
ZippyDSMlee: replaced :P
ZippyDSMlee: replaced :P
Posted 11/07/09 at 04:23pm
ZippyDSMlee: beemoh:hey its like 60GB porn,400GB anime 100GB games and crap I have took from all my DVDs, I hate waiting on dvds to install stuff..... oh and 40GB of my porn was in the found.000 folder...mostly corrupted.... least I got names of wut needs to be repa
ZippyDSMlee: beemoh:hey its like 60GB porn,400GB anime 100GB games and crap I have took from all my DVDs, I hate waiting on dvds to install stuff..... oh and 40GB of my porn was in the found.000 folder...mostly corrupted.... least I got names of wut needs to be repa
Posted 11/07/09 at 04:18pm
beemoh: @Zip: ...and you'd have to spend all that time re-downloading that porn?
beemoh: @Zip: ...and you'd have to spend all that time re-downloading that porn?
Posted 11/07/09 at 03:34pm
ZippyDSMlee: ggrrrrr......vista lost one of my hard drives and I had a heart attack thinking I lost 1TB of data....
ZippyDSMlee: ggrrrrr......vista lost one of my hard drives and I had a heart attack thinking I lost 1TB of data....
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:58am
JDKJ: Which could be explained by both (a) and (b).
JDKJ: Which could be explained by both (a) and (b).
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:56am
Austin_Lewis: JDKJ: You forgot C) the fact that, for some reason, every time he did something that would suggest he shouldn't be in the military, let alone an officer, higher ups ignored it or let it slide.
Austin_Lewis: JDKJ: You forgot C) the fact that, for some reason, every time he did something that would suggest he shouldn't be in the military, let alone an officer, higher ups ignored it or let it slide.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:51am
JDKJ: Part of the problem is, I believe, that (a) the Army had a lot of time and money already invested in him and which they were unwilling to simply write-off and (b) an increasing need for the type of skills and services he provided.
JDKJ: Part of the problem is, I believe, that (a) the Army had a lot of time and money already invested in him and which they were unwilling to simply write-off and (b) an increasing need for the type of skills and services he provided.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:48am
JDKJ: And that even if he was begging not to get cut loose, he was apparently a real good candidate for being cut loose, anyway.
JDKJ: And that even if he was begging not to get cut loose, he was apparently a real good candidate for being cut loose, anyway.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:11am
JDKJ: @chada: And while Kennedy once noted that there's usually more than enough blame for everyone to get a slice, the possibility that the Army was unwilling to cut loose someone who was asking to get cut loose could be a factor.
JDKJ: @chada: And while Kennedy once noted that there's usually more than enough blame for everyone to get a slice, the possibility that the Army was unwilling to cut loose someone who was asking to get cut loose could be a factor.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:07am
ZippyDSMlee: *noms on his feet*..nomnomnomnom*droooll* ...wuuutttttt uuu looking at?
ZippyDSMlee: *noms on his feet*..nomnomnomnom*droooll* ...wuuutttttt uuu looking at?
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:05am
JDKJ: I'm no psychologist, but I'm told that crazy people have a tendency to do crazy things.
JDKJ: I'm no psychologist, but I'm told that crazy people have a tendency to do crazy things.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:03am
chadachada321: Whoops, was out of the convo for awhile. I do wonder what type of ammo he used etc, but the real issue is WHY he did it, not HOW
chadachada321: Whoops, was out of the convo for awhile. I do wonder what type of ammo he used etc, but the real issue is WHY he did it, not HOW
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:56am
JDKJ: But if it turns out that they actually did, they'll have Hell to pay.
JDKJ: But if it turns out that they actually did, they'll have Hell to pay.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:45am
JDKJ: And I'd tend to rule out the possibilty of FN Herstal supplying restricted ammunition to someone merely because they're ordering it from a military base.
JDKJ: And I'd tend to rule out the possibilty of FN Herstal supplying restricted ammunition to someone merely because they're ordering it from a military base.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:37am
JDKJ: I know you don't leave your gated community and get around much in dark alleys, so you may be surprised to learn that there's this thing called "the black market" where, if you've got enough money, ain't too much of anything which can't be bought.
JDKJ: I know you don't leave your gated community and get around much in dark alleys, so you may be surprised to learn that there's this thing called "the black market" where, if you've got enough money, ain't too much of anything which can't be bought.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:36am
Austin_Lewis: Or, maybe he or someone else at the base ordered the SS190 from FN Herstal.
Austin_Lewis: Or, maybe he or someone else at the base ordered the SS190 from FN Herstal.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:32am
Austin_Lewis: the hands of private owners. They run about 300 dollars minimum for a box of 50, and boxes of AP 5.7 are extremely scarce, mainly residing in the hands of Class III stores or individuals who for one reason or another got a demo box of it.
Austin_Lewis: the hands of private owners. They run about 300 dollars minimum for a box of 50, and boxes of AP 5.7 are extremely scarce, mainly residing in the hands of Class III stores or individuals who for one reason or another got a demo box of it.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:30am
Austin_Lewis: There are other firearms that fire the 5.7. However, I too would like to know where he got the ammo and what kind was used. Maybe Hasan, planning not to live through this, went out and bought one the boxes of SS190 that are floating around in
Austin_Lewis: There are other firearms that fire the 5.7. However, I too would like to know where he got the ammo and what kind was used. Maybe Hasan, planning not to live through this, went out and bought one the boxes of SS190 that are floating around in
Posted 11/07/09 at 08:44am
JDKJ: And it isn't yet clear what type of ammunition Hasan used. It's strange that he purchased a gun but didn't purchase ammunition for it at the same place and time. Especially because the calibre required is peculiar to the actual gun.
JDKJ: And it isn't yet clear what type of ammunition Hasan used. It's strange that he purchased a gun but didn't purchase ammunition for it at the same place and time. Especially because the calibre required is peculiar to the actual gun.
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I do not want to hear JT right now(assuming he dropped the Cluster F bomb and Cluster S bomb and other Curse words I will not mention Here) after the Bill's failure
Dennis, a little mental note. JT may pull what he did in Utah
Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights
It´s possible, but with someone crazy as Jack is, maybe he will try something idiotic to get more attention.
"It´s a conspirace", says Thompson.
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Such as Gay porn or even funnier than that will get the attention of the US marshalls toward's JT
Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights
http://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/05/26/jack-thompson-threatens-entire-utah-legislature-prosecution
I would agree with you. Remember JT accused Utah's legistlation of conspiracy. He'll probably do the same thing to them.
Can someone warn the LA legislature of Hurricane Jackass moving from Utah to Lousianna
Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights
Imagining a Emergency news
This is WCTV 9 Breaking News. Hello everybody, this is Chuck Yager. We have a breaking news. The bill SB 152 which would stop selling sexually-explicit game to minors has been shot down today. This has cause a Hurricane named Hurricane Jackass which was name ealier Hurricane Jacko-whacko. But Hurricane Jackass sounds much cooler. Let's head to Dan Lelouch on his Hurricane tracker.
Dan: Thank you Chuck, as you can see the hurricane was formed just after the bill was shot down. It looks like the Hurricane has been intensified since that bill has been destroyed. When it was formed, it was a category 1 then after 4 hours it became a categories 5. It looks like Hurricane Jackass is going to target. We've been getting report that fax machines are getting destroyed when this hurricane is formed. It's expected that it'll hit the Legislation where the bill was shot down. That area is under Hurricane Warning including New Orleans. We're worried this Hurricane is to be stronger then Katrina. But the good news video game industry is save, don't you think Chuck??
Chuck: yeah it is, looks like video gamers are happy everywhere. But the sad thing this Hurricane will ravage Lousiana, it'll sadden gamers everywhere.
Jack is too busy taking down the entire Utah legislature, "acting against" the AG of Utah, leading the Take Two shareholder revolt, and advising the president on his upcoming "total ban" on videogames to deal with Louisianna right now...
*Wah-waaaaaaaaaaaaaah*
Oh well. It's dead, pack'er up boys.
---You are likely to be eaten by a Grue.
I'd call this Jack's greatest success to date. (Okay it's less epic than his other failures. Splitting hairs.)
What else could happen(If JT decides to make us laugh by creating an incident)
Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights
Figured this would happen.
It didn't work the first time, I'd like to know what i nthe hell made Thompson think it'd work this time.
He believes he's fighting the good fight. People with those types of delusions will never give up.
Freedom of speech means the freedom to say ANYTHING, so long as it is the truth. This does not exclude anything that might hurt someone's feelings.
Or he deluded himself into believing they forgot the first time, or that he'd be facing different people.
Makes kme think of duringh is BAR trial when he tried ot have the judge removed from the case, we knew he'd keep doing it until a judge came along that let him do what he wanted.
That's a good point about facing different people, as Louisiana elected a new governor(Bobby Jindal) and a new attorney general since then.
Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Hornets, Jack Thompson can geaux chase a chupacabra.
Fits him to a T.
Heres what you here from me about this....
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
Yeah, JT the erectile dysfunction man, you really did, atleast some citizen of the state are glad their tax money isnt a total waste.
Just wait for a few days...Thompson would just usually give us that "I dont give a crap." attitude to dennis,til he'll start flooding/spamming the louisianna senates email boxes.
I pity the brave fax machines.
Jack thompson being a crying bitch in 3... 2... 1....
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He won't be crying. He'll be shouting about how this is really a victory, and telling us how folks like us undermined the process, and complaining about corrupt politicians. Then he'll say that this is all part of the plan, and he'll crow about how feeble we are, and finally he'll tell us that soon victory will be his!
More news on the death of SB 152 here:
http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2009/06/panel_rejects_bill_aimed_at_sa.html
The committee rejected the bill by a 12 to 2 vote.
A New Orleans bookstore operator and a movie industry rep spoke out against the bill.
The best quote from the article:
Crowe had amendments prepared for the bill to blunt some of the opposition but panel Chairman Jeff Arnold, D-Algiers, said they did not arrive 24 hours in advance as committee rules require.
Rep. Kirk Talbot, R-River Ridge, questioned the $1.6 million cost estimated by legislative fiscal experts.
Crowe said he was shocked it would take that much to hire more attorneys and investigators to deal with the complaints.
Tom Lowenburg, co-operator of Octavia Books in New Orleans, said his store sells 15,000 to 20,000 titles a year. He said some books hundreds of pages long may have one picture of nude artwork that could subject him to a complaint.
"This bill would make our job hell," Lowenburg said. "We don't think it is constitutional; it makes individuals mini-police in enforcing content. This would put Louisiana way out there. There will be legal costs to the state" when lawsuits are filed.
Steve Duke, who represents the movie industry, said the industry has worked with the state in the past to keep racy material out of kids' hands. "Where is the problem that presently exists (to warrant this bill)?" he asked.
Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Hornets, Jack Thompson can geaux chase a chupacabra.
Crowe said he was shocked it would take that much to hire more attorneys and investigators to deal with the complaints.
Because he never thought to read the fiscal cost estimate that is prepared at taxpayer expense for every single piece of pending legislation? Because prior to convincing the poor dumb-fucks in Slidell to vote him into office he was a linoleum tile salesman?
I wondered why any politician with half a brain would associate themself with Jack Thompson. I wonder no more. Obviously, it's the half a brain requirement which Crowe failed.
This other part in the article probably doesn't make Crowe any smarter:
He said the estimate was wrong because the existing staff in the attorney general's office could probably handle it.
It's possible, but it just makes for an added workload plus costs for having to move to different locations(the fiscal notes mentioned having to have an investigator established in each of 9 metro areas in the state)
Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Hornets, Jack Thompson can geaux chase a chupacabra.
That is my favorite part too. It just screams at how ignorant Crowe is.
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Nor does the fact that he couldn't manage to submit his amendments a day in advance of the meeting as required by Committee Rules suggest that he's a candidate for admission to MENSA.
It's certainly something he has in common with Jack, though.
Saying that Jack Thompson is impotent is an insult to impotent men everywhere. They've got a whole assortment of drugs that can cure their condition; Jack, however...
One would think these knuckleheads would stop listening to some guy who used to be in legal circles and doesn't even get legislation passed in his home state.
I for one hope that the voters in these areas take note and vote out any imbicile that listened to someone outside their voting district. Especially someone who has been disbarred.
"Volume helps to get a point across but sharp teeth are better."
I wonder if anyone from NIMF said "my people are dying, we don't have time to discuss this in committees!"
Here is the video of yesterday's hearing:
http://house.louisiana.gov/rmarchive/Ram/RamJun09/0618_09_COM.ram
SB 152 begins at 58:05 and runs to 1:41:05.
Just for giggles, count how many times Sen. Crowe refers to "protecting the children." I think it is nine.
It's a drinking game!
Social! Just for the hell of it.
Saying that Jack Thompson is impotent is an insult to impotent men everywhere. They've got a whole assortment of drugs that can cure their condition; Jack, however...
Stuck down and hit for six.
Another epic fail. :D
We haven't heard from our very own Jackie-boy in a long time methink... What crazy scheme our favorite born-again fool- I mean christian- is up to right now?
All I can say is what a moron.
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