On Father's Day, Obama Urges Dads To Swap Video Games for Books

June 21, 2009 -

Repeating a theme that he frequently touched upon during his 2008 election campaign, President Barack Obama has once again referenced video games as a metaphor for academic underachievement.

In a Father's Day message published in Parade, Obama writes:

We need to set limits and expectations. We need to replace that video game with a book and make sure that homework gets done... We need to tell our sons, Those songs on the radio may glorify violence, but in our house, we find glory in achievement, self-respect, and hard work.

Interestingly, the Parade feature is Obama's third mention of video games in the last 10 days. On June 11th he told an audience in Wisconsin:

The world has gotten competitive. The Chinese, the Indians, they're coming at us and they're coming at us hard, and they're hungry, and they're really buckling down.

And they watch - their kids watch a lot less TV than our kids do, play a lot fewer video games, they're in the classroom a lot longer.

Last Monday the President mentioned games during a speech to the American Medical Association in Chicago:

[Preventive care] starts with each of us taking more responsibility for our health and the health of our children. It means... raising our children to step away from the video games and spend more time playing outside.


Comments

Re: On Father's Day, Obama Urges Dads To Swap Video Games ...

Silly Barack. School's over. There is no homework.

Re: On Father's Day, Obama Urges Dads To Swap Video Games ...

Because we all know that you can't be a gamer AND a productive member of society at the same time *roll*

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What information is Obama using in regards to these videogame comments? 

While moderation is a noble principal the average age of a gamer is over thirty and to always cast the games as the negative or part of the problem seems to miss the point entirely of his own broader ideas for these respective speeches and comments. To single out games shows a baffling sort of myopia that if any other recreational hobby were to replace it the President's comments would seem entirely out of line and laughed out of the room.  So the aforementioned question becomes of critical importance.  If he is going of of what he thinks he knows that is one thing, but if he is using faulty data and studies the situation changes entirely.   

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That's the whole point of dissent here.  The faulty data being that gaming is the cause (at least, that seems to be his point).  We all know that gaming isn't the cause, because this is a trend that started even before the hippie movement.  I'm asking for a call for moderation, knowing that won't be answered, because political idealists like Obama don't like moderation, because it wouldn't allow their ideals to come to fruition (in this case, socialism).

 

Freedom of speech means the freedom to say ANYTHING, so long as it is the truth. This does not exclude anything that might hurt someone's feelings.

--- With the first link, the chain is forged.

Re: On Father's Day, Obama Urges Dads To Swap Video Games ...

"The world has gotten competitive. The Chinese, the Indians, they're coming at us and they're coming at us hard, and they're hungry, and they're really buckling down.

And they watch - their kids watch a lot less TV than our kids do, play a lot fewer video games, they're in the classroom a lot longer."

 

Meanwhile, the Chinese's embargo on Wotlk is slowing down gold-farming... NOT! Chinese kids don't spend more time than us in class rooms, nor to play outside ; it's not in the government's interest to let the population think they can do something on their own.

As for India... They are developping up, BAMF style ; they are hungry for a good reason.

In the meantime, do you think the GP community could come together, pitch in a few bucks each and afford Obama a Wii, WiiSports and WiiFit?

Better yet, link him to GP altogether!

Re: On Father's Day, Obama Urges Dads To Swap Video Games ...

So much vitriol over such a little, simple, and true comment. This is why we can't have nice things.

Re: On Father's Day, Obama Urges Dads To Swap Video Games ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXr1mkYWeCU

 

All hail the messiah
Obama, Obama

The path to the new socialist motherland
Our savior, our savior
Obama, Obama
The leader more famous than Lindsay Lohan
Bow down and praise the one
Give him your money and your guns
Give us a country
That makes your wife proud
Lord Barry heal the bitter ones
White and Clinging to faith and to guns
Hope for the change of the hope of the change!
 

Re: On Father's Day, Obama Urges Dads To Swap Video Games ...

Hey, have you seen Obama's roving death squads? They took my gun yesterday. :(

Re: On Father's Day, Obama Urges Dads To Swap Video Games ...

 Hmm, a Glenn Beck production, reeks of butthurt and crying baby.

Anyone else realize the only people who call Obama a "messiah" are republicans trying to be clever and failing at that? Yes? Oh good, I thought I was the only one.

Re: On Father's Day, Obama Urges Dads To Swap Video Games ...

Yes those people who speak about getting a funny feeling down there leg down exisit?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zusi3LRR2yw

 

Re: On Father's Day, Obama Urges Dads To Swap Video Games ...

 Sorry, but that only works if I'm the first to defend Matthews, unfortunately for you I don't defend stupidity.

Re: On Father's Day, Obama Urges Dads To Swap Video Games ...

this is why The commemnts(on GP) prove why politics and gaming don't mix, it always makes a mess for me to clean up alot(Literally).

Warning: there is a severe Cat 5 Shitstorm warning effective until 12am EDT

Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights

America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.

Re: On Father's Day, Obama Urges Dads To Swap Video Games ...

Wow, a lot of gamepolitics readers are crazy.

Re: On Father's Day, Obama Urges Dads To Swap Video Games ...

to : I agree, I'm trying to keep my cool here without going off into conspiracy theory mode

To everyone else: Would you all know the fact of what obama is saying, He wants everyone to practice moderation(of everything), end of story

Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights

America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.

Re: On Father's Day, Obama Urges Dads To Swap Video Games ...

Democrats don't believe in moderation.  They want to move this country towards Communism, and have already begun the process, with buying banks, buying auto companies, under-the-table dealings with news organizations and industrial companies (GE).  Moderation is the last thing they care about.  If they get the opportunity to get their hooks in the gaming industry, do you really think they'll pass that up?  And when they do get into it, do you think they won't change anything?  Remember these questions, because they will get their hands on our beloved industry eventually, if these warnings go unheeded, and I'll be there saying "I told you so."

And go ahead, call me a stupid retarded neo-con bitch.  I know you will, because that's what you all do when you can't defeat logic.

 

Freedom of speech means the freedom to say ANYTHING, so long as it is the truth. This does not exclude anything that might hurt someone's feelings.

--- With the first link, the chain is forged.

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"Democrats don't believe in moderation."

Yes we should follow the Republicans lead and be moderate. Sorry homosexuals, but wanting to get married is just way to EXTREME.

Re: On Father's Day, Obama Urges Dads To Swap Video Games ...

Ask the people to decide, not the courts.

 

Freedom of speech means the freedom to say ANYTHING, so long as it is the truth. This does not exclude anything that might hurt someone's feelings.

--- With the first link, the chain is forged.

Re: On Father's Day, Obama Urges Dads To Swap Video Games ...

Actually I'll just call you a moron for all the partisan whining you do here. I could very easily get into how republicans want to control every aspect of everyone's lives, wether it be who you marry or your right to choose, and how over the last few months they've become so petty they wish a terrorist attack would occur to justify their own hatred, but I'd just waste my time dealing with someone who seems to think he's never wrong and knows better than the majority of the country.

 

As I've said before, your heroes Hannity and Coulter would be very proud of you if they read your posts here.

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What majority?  According to Pew, a majority of the people of this country think that a lot of the president's policies are the wrong direction for this country.

And I'm not a Republican, i'm a conservative.  There is a difference.

As far as gay marriage is concerned, I think that it should be voted on by the people, like in California.  But that's not enough for you libs, is it, because California proved that if you actually let the people decide, you might not get what you want.  If the people of California don't support gay marriage, what other state could pass such a law?  That's why California is the only state to send it to the people.  You don't want to get caught with your pants down again.

As far as abortion is concerned, here's my take on it - First trimester, do what you want.  Second trimester, for mental or physical health reasons, or pregnancy as a result of rape or incest.  Third trimester, only as a result of rape or incest.  Medicine has proven that if the baby makes it to third tri, the mom has a 99.9 percent chance of surviving birth.  As far as you late-term abortion proponents go, why is it that late-term abortion doctors perform 80% of their late-term abortions for no reason?  The only real problem I have with abortion is late-term.  Once again, I'd take this measure to the people and see what the people have to say.

As far as wanting a terrorist attack, I don't want that.  I lost a very close friend in 9/11.  I know the pain that terrorism brings.  I don't want that on anyone but terrorists themselves.  However, dismantling everything that brought us intelligence on terrorist activities is going to allow them to attack us again, and just because Barrack Obama has been sucking Muslim dick since he took office, that doesn't mean they like us now.  The only way that terrorism and anti-American sentiment will cease in the Muslim world would be to allow them to destroy Israel.  That's why they hate us.  Excuse me for thinking we should stick up with our allies, especially since it was America that lead the charge to creating it in the 1940's.

And I think Hannity and Coulter should shut up.  I don't much pay attention to talking heads.  Unlike most people who vote Democrat, I can make up my mind for myself by listening to both sides of an argument, and coming to my own conclusions.

 

Freedom of speech means the freedom to say ANYTHING, so long as it is the truth. This does not exclude anything that might hurt someone's feelings.

--- With the first link, the chain is forged.

Re: On Father's Day, Obama Urges Dads To Swap Video Games ...

The only difference between conservatives and republicans I've noticed over the last eight years is that one thought the last president was God, and the other though he was the second coming of Christ. Which one do you fall into?

Its nice to know you think equality should be voted on rather than guaranteed too. Thats a real great way to look at things. Nice projection btw where everyone who disagrees with you is automatically a liberal, btw.

I'm not going to comment on your abortion answer until you provide citations for you 80% claims, as that sound like a heaping mess of bullshit right there.

I can't help but wonder what its like to live in a black & white world like you do. Obama doesn't do what you want lock-step so he's automaticall a socialist, Hitler-esque, a terrorist sypmathizer, etc. Are you really surprised you're ilk lost two elections when you behave that way? Furthermore, just because you don't want another terrorist attack to happen doesn't mean there aren't people who do. Just go look at your fellow conservatives at freerepublic, you'll find droves of them there.

You really expect people to think you don't follow Hannity, Beck, Coulter and the rest? You claim to think for yourself, you just spew out thier hateful remarks almost to the letter. You've also got a lot of gall saying democrats can't think for themselves when for eight years it was "agree with the president or you're a traitor".

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I don't think of either Bush president as any sort of deity.  I don't even believe in a deity.

Gays are treated equally.  Do I have the right to marry someone of the same gender just because I'm straight?  No.  They have the same rights I do.  Just because they choose to live life differently than me does not grant them the right to change the Constitution to fit their niche of this country.  Also, before you claim that they were born that way, prove it.  You told me to prove the 80% claim, and I can direct you to the Kansas Department of HHS.  The statistics are available as a matter of public record.

Obama isn't a socialist because he disagrees with me.  He's a socialist because he thinks that rich people aren't allowed to be rich.  He's a socialist because he used government money to buy one third of the banks and two thirds of the U.S. Auto industry, and gave them to their respective unions, but not before firing CEO's and telling others that they can only make a certain amount of money.  Along the way, he had laws passed granting his administration the power to regulate maximum pay for a variety of jobs across a vast array of industries, whether they took TARP money or not.  This type of government control of that many industries, taking money from the rich and giving it to poor people for no other reason than rich people aren't poor is socialism.

Also, what do other people wanting terrorist attacks have to do with me?

Finally, just because I agree with some of the things that Hannity and the like say doesn't make me a slobbering idiot following them.  As to your comment about the last eight years, you claim that we need to agree with the President now.  Turnabout being fair play, I can understand, but if that's what you're going to say, you need to shut up about the last eight years, because now you're doing what you libs have been angry about someone else doing.

 

Freedom of speech means the freedom to say ANYTHING, so long as it is the truth. This does not exclude anything that might hurt someone's feelings.

--- With the first link, the chain is forged.

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Gays couples are not treated equally, if they were, they'd get the same visitation rights and benefits as straight couples do, and there wouldn't be people going out of their way to try prevent them from gaining those rights. Just because you don't condone their lifestyle or who they want to be with doesn't give you the right to try and ban them from getting married to each other. Nice to know you can't turn your projecting off either, it just shows how terrible you are at reading people. And I'm still waiting for your sourse that 80% of all lat-term abortions are perfoemed for "no reason". So far you've tried to source them for Kansas, and didn't even provide a link.

Dude, give up the cosialist bullshit already, the only people who are going with that claim are you, your hatemongering overlords Hannity, Beck, Rush and the like, and all their rabid, hateful listeners. You already deemed him a socialist before he even took office - even if he turned this country into a utopia you'd be calling him one. You simply hate the man and want him to fail like the rest of your heores do.

 

As for other people wishing for terrorist attacks on Obama's watch - they claim to be conservative patriots like you do. I tend to believe guilt by association to be a two way street, so since you like to continuously dish it out, feel free to take it a while.

Finally, you don't just agree on a few things Hannity and the rest of the ilk say, you've been agreeing with everything they've been saying, nearly word for word at times. If it looks like a skunk, and smells like a skunk...you even project like they do, as I've yet to say you have to agree with Obama, nor have I even given my political affiliation or who I voted for. I've always had the position to give the guy an ample amount of time to be judged, just like I gave to your Glorious Leader. Barely six months does not equate to an ample amount of time, much less the four days one of your associate Bush-worshippers gave him. Maybe if you didn't spend all your time projecting your own positions as absolute fact you'd have noticed that, since I've said it quite a few times on this site.

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By you accusing me of hatemongering because I have an opinion that differs from yours, you do love Obama.  That's why he claims Fox News hates him, even though roughly 40 percent of the people working there openly support him (and by this, I mean actual journalists who appear on television).

Who said I didn't condone gay lifestyle?  I didn't say that at all.  What I said was, if we are going to change laws and policies, it should be voted upon by the people of the individual state.  You know, seeing as how majority rules in this country?  If the American people think that gays should be allowed to marry, let them say so.  Here's where your problem comes into play.  A recent Pew Research pole says that 70% of Americans believe in so-called "traditional" marriage.  I would also have to point out that there is a distinct possibility that some of this 70% could be gay people.  As a matter of fact, a close friend of mine is a gay person that falls in this category.  Another close friend of mine has a gay uncle who also falls in this category.  Noting all of this, plus the recent events in California repealing gay marriage laws, you are afraid of such a measure, because it would prevent any measure allowing gays to marry to come to pass.  Instead, you'd rather small minorities of this country hijack the legal system to get what they want, so you don't have to feel bad about being a rich white guy.

As far as visitation rights are concerned, maybe they should go after the hospital trustees and get them to change the policy?  Huh?  You know, the simple thing vs. hijacking our legal system?  Oh, wait, you libs can't do that.  That's why our new health care system as provided by Your Lord And Saviour is going to cost this country 1 trillion dollars over ten years, and they don't even have it finished yet.

You claim me to be a hateful listener of Hannity or Beck, but I'm willing to bet you haven't even watched their shows.  Another recent Pew poll says that conservatives are twice as likely to look at what liberals have to say as vice versa.  The last lines of your first paragraph prove it, too.  Instead of doing the legwork yourself, to see if I was write, you make some crappy comeback about me not posting a link.  A link that you either wouldn't have checked out anyway, or if you did, would have tried to say I took out of context or was all just a conservative hackjob anyway.  If you are actually interested in finding out whether I'm right or wrong, do the work yourself and be educated.  However, I know that call will fall on deaf ears, because you'd rather be ignorant and right in your own mind, than be educated and possibly proven wrong.

I didn't deem Obama a socialist until he implemented his policies.  Last summer, I voted based on my "pro-dodgeball" policy.  Barack Obama comes from Chicago, a school system that outlawed the game of dodgeball, because a child's feelings got hurt because somebody threw a ball at him.  He wasn't physically hurt, but this one child made playing dodgeball on school property illegal.  Kids were actually taken to juvie.  Since Barack Obama supported a measure spreading this accross all of Illinois, I voted against him.  The socialism didn't come until after he bought two car companies and fired one CEO and told the other that they are legally required to be bought by a foreign car company.  On top of this, he spent 787 billion dollars on a stimulus bill that was supposed to have been implemented by June 1.  Well, it's almost July and they're saying it won't work and need another.  On top of this spending, he wants to assume California's massive debt, which they have because they put policies in place that are the model for what Obama wants.  Either the federal government assume this debt, or California goes bankrupt.  Is that what you want our country to do?  In order to get what you seem to want, the spending is going to have to increase, even though, by Barack Obama's own admission, this type of spending is unsustainable.

 

Freedom of speech means the freedom to say ANYTHING, so long as it is the truth. This does not exclude anything that might hurt someone's feelings.

--- With the first link, the chain is forged.

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I call you a hatemonger because of your hateful rhetoric and stereotyping remarks. I don't care if people have a disagreement with Obama, considering I voted for Nader; I'm just giving him the same time frame I gave your Glorious Leader.

Its so nice you're a fan of majority rules in all cases. We'd still have segragation and anti-interracial marriage if we followed majority rules at all times. You equate asking for equal rights granted in traditional marriage to be hijacking the system, you may as well admit you don't want them to have those same rights because they shouldn't be denied to anyone just because they don't fall lockstep with everyone else.

For the record I do hear Hannity, and Rush - my roomate listens to them daily, so I'm aware of their hatemongering, and you fit them perfectly. Great cop-out on why you refuse to provide links to your claims btw, since the burden of proof falls on the person making the claims; you may not care to be proven "write", but that just kills any credibility you probably didn't have to begin with. Then again your lying about being a Marine probably killed all that anyways - Marines at least have the integrity to back up what they say, and you clearly don't.

Wow, you based your vote around a game; you ignored every other facet of each candidate and went around a game of dodgeball instead, and you wonder why you had almost no credibility to begin with? You'd think someone who calls himself a "Marine" would put careful consideration into such an important vote, and be nowhere near as petty. Then again you're the only one here dumb enough to equate the president to Hitler while denying your jaded partisanship.

For all your bitching and whining about Obama you've put here, I've yet to see you put anything productive on how to improve things - instead all you do here is scream "SOCIALIST!", "NAZI!" and stereotype democrats and anyone who didn't vote republican. You've shown absoutely no honor that true Marines possess and continue to project your opinion as fact. Maybe you should actually take up some true Marine qualities like humbleness and respect instead of being a bitter partisan hack.

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What have I said that can possibly be construed as hateful rhetoric or steryotyping?  I said that if gays want to be given the ability to marry eachother, the people of this country should decide that.  That's neither hateful or stereotypical.  As far as your comments about slavery or inter-racial marriage, history has proven that it was a severe minority that wanted those in either case.  Your revisionist history just doesn't want to admit that.

You don't seem to understand what I mean by hijacking the system.  In California, a law was put to the vote by the people AFTER the GLBT lobby demanded the State Supreme Court to make a law, bypassing the State Congress and Governor.  This act in and of itself by the GLBT lobby is hijacking the legal system.  It is not the Supreme Court's place to make law.  It is to review law.  Then, after a law was passed denying them the ability to marry, they tried to do so again, only it failed.  After it failed, gays then crossed state lines and firebombed churches that they felt were responsible, because, after all, people can't be held accountable for their own choices.

Apparently, either you don't know a joke when you see it, or you're just willing to fight anything you can to demonize me personally.  I did carefully consider my vote, and wrote in Ron Paul, because of the fact that, like me and our Founding Fathers, he believes that the Federal Government is not supposed to insinuate it's control on every aspect of our life.  And I have put in ideas to try and make things better, such as my idea for abortion laws, as well as the issue of gay marriage.  If you want to know what I would do about the economy, I would repeal the stimulus bill, and give that money to all of the people who paid taxes last year (with an adjusted gross income of less than $500,000) so that they can spend it.  I would encourage domestic energy production of wind, solar, nuclear, clean coal, oil and natural gas.  This idea alone would create more jobs than I have the ability to figure out on my own, and we have an abundant natural supply right here in America.  You libs just don't want to use it.  As far as your green footprint is concerned, increasing fuel economy standards for all vehicles, not just family cars and minivans, over a lengthy timetable would allow us to maintain greener vehicles, while still encouraging technological inovation of our auto industry AND allowing them some profitability.

As to your last line, Marines only have to be humble to people who have earned their respect.  Since all you seem to want to do is demean me, I have no need to be humble to you.

 

Freedom of speech means the freedom to say ANYTHING, so long as it is the truth. This does not exclude anything that might hurt someone's feelings.

--- With the first link, the chain is forged.

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Oh yes, there's no stereotyping involved when you accuse all democrats of having no moderation, calling Obama a nazi, labeling everyone who idsagrees with you a liberal, thats all fine, upstanding behavior...I also haven't said a thing about slavery this thread, thats all you, so have fun arguing with yourself there, sunshine. As for interracial marriage, thank you for proving my point when you admit a minority of people were for it to begin with, only to end up where we are now with it perfectly legal and acceptable. Nice to know though you think equal rights are something that should be voted on and not guaranteed.

 

Word of advice too, I wouldn't make stupid jokes when you come off as petty enough to be taken seriously about it. Given your reasoning for most things it wouldn't be a surprise if you actually did use that method. And of course you aren't humble or respectful - you haven't been to anyone else here who disagreed with you. Then again Marines also don't have superiority complexes, or threaten people over the internet, or call their CnC a nazi...I guess you just like to pick and choose which Marine apects to follow.

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I haven't labeled everyone who disagrees with me, only ones who make points proving their liberal views.  Also, considering 70% of Americans disagree with gay marriage, saying it's "perfectly acceptable" is far from accurate.  So is "perfectly legal," considering it's only legal in six states, and the legality is still hotly contested, as well as the fact that those marriages are not recognized by the Federal government, the military, or even the other states in the Union that don't have it.

Again, they do have equal rights.  I can't go and do anything they can't do.  I can't marry another guy just because I'm straight.  Show me one city where I could.

Also, as an American, I can make whatever joke I feel like, whenever I feel like it.  If you have a problem with that, boo hoo.  Again, you should actually read my posts.  When people actually argue with facts and logic instead of rhetoric and hurt feelings, I will accede to that.  When people present evidence for me to examine, I'll look at it.  Have you spoken to the Kansas Department of Health and Human Services yet?  I doubt it, because you're too afraid I might be right, and then you won't have a leg to stand on.

 

Freedom of speech means the freedom to say ANYTHING, so long as it is the truth. This does not exclude anything that might hurt someone's feelings.

--- With the first link, the chain is forged.

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Apparantly the concept of context really is lost on you, as I stated interracial marraige is considered acceptable and legal. By the way, you're wrong, again, regarding several issues about gay marriage. For starters, DC and New York recognize same-sex marriages from other states and countires while not performing them, though New York will likely be legalizing them to be preformed in the near future as well. You also most certainly can marry another man "because you're straight" in any of the states that have legalized gay marriage; you may as well start in Hartford, they'd issue it relatively quickly. Furthermore, once again you're wrong with your blind assumption that gay couples have equal rights. Unlike a straight couple who gets married, gay couples are denied all of the following:

Employment

  • Obtaining insurance benefits through a spouse's employer.
  • Taking family leave to care for your spouse during an illness.
  • Receiving wages, workers' compensation, and retirement plan benefits for a deceased spouse.
  • Taking bereavement leave if your spouse or one of your spouse’s close relatives dies.

Health

  • Visiting your spouse in a hospital intensive care unit or during restricted visiting hours in other parts of a medical facility.
  • Making medical decisions for your spouse if he or she becomes incapacitated and unable to express wishes for treatment.

Death

  • Consenting to after-death examinations and procedures.
  • Making burial or other final arrangements.

Family

  • Filing for stepparent or joint adoption.
  • Applying for joint foster care rights.
  • Receiving equitable division of property if you divorce.
  • Receiving spousal or child support, child custody, and visitation if you divorce.

Consumer

  • Automatically renewing leases signed by your spouse.
  • Receiving family rates for health, homeowners', auto, and other types of insurance.
  • Receiving tuition discounts and permission to use school facilities.
  • Other consumer discounts and incentives offered only to married couples or families.

Tax

  • Filing joint income tax returns with the IRS and state taxing authorities.
  • Creating a "family partnership" under federal tax laws, which allows you to divide business income among family members.

Estate Planning

  • Inheriting a share of your spouse's estate.
  • Receiving an exemption from both estate taxes and gift taxes for all property you give or leave to your spouse.
  • Creating life estate trusts that are restricted to married couples, including QTIP trusts, QDOT trusts, and marital deduction trusts.
  • Obtaining priority if a conservator needs to be appointed for your spouse -- that is, someone to make financial and/or medical decisions on your spouse’s behalf.

Government

  • Receiving Social Security, Medicare, and disability benefits for spouses.
  • Receiving veterans' and military benefits for spouses, such as those for education, medical care, or special loans.
  • Receiving public assistance benefits when otherwise qualifying.

Other Legal Benefits and Protections

  • Obtaining immigration and residency benefits for noncitizen spouse.
  • Suing a third person for wrongful death of your spouse and loss of consortium (loss of intimacy).
  • Suing a third person for offenses that interfere with the success of your marriage, such as alienation of affection and criminal conversation (these laws are available in only a few states).
  • Claiming the marital communications privilege, which means a court can’t force you to disclose the contents of confidential communications between you and your spouse during your marriage.
  • Receiving crime victims' recovery benefits if your spouse is the victim of a crime.
  • Visiting rights in jails and other places where visitors are restricted to immediate family.

Until gay couples are given those same rights across the country, no, they aren't equal.

 

You're actually the last person to be telling others not to argue with hurt feelings; you've been crying persecution almost this entire thread - not very Marine-like, btw.

And I'm still waiting for you to cite all your claims. The burden of proof is on you for making the claims, not me for calling foul on them. Any excuse you give otherwise is nothing but a cop-out. Apparantly conservatives think they're exempt from that.

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 "And go ahead, call me a stupid retarded neo-con bitch.  I know you will, because that's what you all do when you can't defeat logic."

Actually I was just thinking of calling you a politically retarded peleo-conservative. Democrats are right-wing just like any other group in America. If they were left wing, social policies would move without being hindered by republicans or democrats. Go to the political compass, and then promptly shut up about something you have zero understanding of.

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I have a firm understanding of American politics.  It is you who don't understand what is going on here.  You think that, because Obama went over to your country and said that America is bad and your country is good that we're going to be okay.  Well, that's not going to fix anything.  That's the point that we political dissenters here in America are trying to make.

 

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I'm staying on the sidelines, I don't want to get involved in a Flame war here

Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights

America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.

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Please, Democrats are still more right-wing than my country's main right-wing party, and we actually have a socialist party on the far left. I'm beyond tired of people in the USA crying "socialism" and "communism" about the Obama administration.

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Even though that's what he's sending us to?  He controls the auto industry himself, just like Hitler and Stalin.  He controls the banks, just like Hitler and Stalin.  He's working on the health care industry, just like Hitler and Stalin, as well as the energy industry in this country, just like Hitler and Stalin.  He believes in taking money from rich people and giving it to everyone, just like Stalin (I'm unsure if Hitler did this, that's why I didn't throw him in).  He's anti-Israel, just like Hitler and Stalin.  He believes that children in their mother's womb aren't people (appointing Sebelius to HHS), just like Hitler (not quite sure about Stalin on this one).  So, with all of these parallels to Hitler and Stalin, why are Americans who studied history not allowed to worry about socialism and communism?

 

Freedom of speech means the freedom to say ANYTHING, so long as it is the truth. This does not exclude anything that might hurt someone's feelings.

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Stop calling us Europeans nazis you asshole.

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When did I call anyone a Nazi?  I compared Obamas actions to Hitlers actions during his rise to power.  How is that calling anyone a Nazi, other than Obama, who is in no way European?

 

Freedom of speech means the freedom to say ANYTHING, so long as it is the truth. This does not exclude anything that might hurt someone's feelings.

--- With the first link, the chain is forged.

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Okay, I'm going to slap you with a large trout now.

*does so*

Okay, I'm done. Are you done twisting my words now? I didn't say anyone was not allowed to worry. I just said I'm tired of all the ignorant "socialism!" and "communism!" yelling and the paranoia about a president who, by European standards, is a rightwing conservative - and frankly, I'm scared to death as well. Why? Because if you're screaming like this about Obama, imagine what you'll do to Europe given half the chance.

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Europe can do whatever it wants.  I don't care.  Europe has no bearing on my life, outside of the comparisons between European life and American life.  The only problem I have ever had with Europe is that America sent so many American men and boys over there to die to defend you from Hitler, and when we ask for help against terrorism, you accuse us of warmongering.  You then decide to condemn our President for openning up Guantanamo Bay, but when you are asked to take some of them you don't.  I don't care what side of the political spectrum you are on, but that's just not right of you to do.

 

Freedom of speech means the freedom to say ANYTHING, so long as it is the truth. This does not exclude anything that might hurt someone's feelings.

--- With the first link, the chain is forged.

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That's okay. We only have a problem with Jimmy Carter and the CIA indirectly causing 9/11, and Europe having to help you clean up the mess. Oh, and there's the fact that you keep shoving WWII in our face when it took a Japanese assault on you to make you join the war in the first place. And there's also the fact that my country's military helps you in Afghanistan (which I support), only to have their work made needlessly hard by the USA's failures.

And you've completely missed my point, it seems: you're accusing Obama of being like Hitler and Stalin, when he's right-wing by our standards. What does that make Europe, then? By your standards, all of Europe is obviously both communist and nazistic.

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What has Europe done to help clean up 9/11?  The massive Muslim population over there prevented you from actually doing anything about it.  And so what about why we joined the war?  We still fought Japan by ourselves, on top of the Nazis along side Europe.  We then join in Vietnam at the request of France, only for France to bail and we get stuck with it.  We ask for European help with Iraq, and we are turned down.  Why?  Not because Europe likes dictators, but because at least two European countries were bought off with oil from Iraq.

And I do appreciate what your country's military is doing for us in Afghanistan.  I really do.

As for your final statement, I don't care about Europe's political leanings.  Everyone knows that Europe is a group of quasi-socialist nations.  That seems to work for you.  However, our nation was founded on ideals of individual responsibility, freedom and capitalism.  All three of which our current President is actively trying to take away.

 

Freedom of speech means the freedom to say ANYTHING, so long as it is the truth. This does not exclude anything that might hurt someone's feelings.

--- With the first link, the chain is forged.

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The USA supported Saddam Hussein from 1959 right up to the moment where he invaded Kuwait (admittedly, France and Germany messed up as well) - in fact, Saddam might not have invaded if the USA had told him sternly enough they wouldn't stand for it if he did. They even sent him biological warfare agents and helped him gas Iranian troops. This is precisely why I'm criticizing the USA for its WWII-bragging: the majority of everything it's ever done has been out of selfish reasons, and it's responsible for most of the current Middle-Eastern messes. You should be grateful there even are other countries who are willing to have their soldiers risk their lives to help clean up the USA's messes, not blaming the ones who don't. Of course, there's one good unintended consequence I can think of: Japan's pacifistic attitude.

And as for your view of Europe: it's ignorant. European governments are all over the spectrum, from left to right, and still we manage to work together. The USA, on the other hand, has only 2 major parties (center-right and right-wing), a flawed election system where some people's votes matter more than others due to people who aren't allowed to vote still counting for a state's weight, and it still manages to have feuds between Democrats and Republicans. Your freedom has been on a slippery slope ever since 9/11, your "individual responsibility" seems to be limited to blaming and suing everyone for everything, and your capitalism almost destroyed the entire world economy.

Europe is a mess, but it's far superior to the USA.

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No where, whatsoever, did he state ANYTHING to do with moderation and/or diversity.

You can interpret his statements all you want.  The FACTS of what he said are quite clear.

He did NOT suggest alternatives IN ADDITION to these activities. 

He DID state that people should choose approved activities INSTEAD of the activities he deems to have ONLY negative impact on the individuals.

There IS a difference between the two, whether you want to view it that way or not.

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You know, please stop it before you cause a gamer civil war over obama's comments(not flaming here, I want a peaceful end to this confrontation)

Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights

America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.

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This is not about the different opinions of gamers.  This is about the difference on how individuals view (whether listened to or read) what was specifically stated. 

Whether it's this issue of what Mr. Obama said or the arguments about how Vets For Freedom attempted to mislead people as to what a certain video game's background and content was.

It isn't even about Democrats or Conservatives because both have shown a desire to alter preception of what was literally stated so what they want others to preceive as being stated.

Nightwng2000

NW2K Software

http://www.facebook.com/nightwing2000

Nightwng2000 is now admin to the group "Parents For Education, Not Legislation" on MySpace as http://groups.myspace.com/pfenl

Nightwng2000 NW2K Software http://www.facebook.com/nightwing2000 Nightwng2000 is now admin to the group "Parents For Education, Not Legislation" on MySpace as http://groups.myspace.com/pfenl

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I do like obama but, I don't like his policies and I believe he's a BS artist

Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights

America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.

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I've already forgotten what is was Obama said, I've been too distracted by the petty arguements we've been having over here.

 

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Even though I am a gamer myself & been taking a break from them for quite a while. I agree with some of his opinion. It ain't hurting my feelings whatsoever.

What we got here is failure to communicate!

What we got here is failure to communicate!

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Oh no Obama tells parents to limit there children's gaming time, HE MUST HATE VIDEO GAME!!!!!!!!!

Give me a f'ing break.

There nothing wrong for parents to limit there gaming time inexchange for book or that great evil known as..... FRESH AIR!. Hell when i was in elementry school I couldn't even turn on the tv without finishing my homework. For those thats hating the president about this right now i bet oyu when you have kids and they're failing school the first thing your gonna do is take away there videogames.

http://www.magicinkgaming.com/

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Personally I spent the majority of my time in my grade and highschool years playing videogames, I graduated second in my class with an above 4.0 GPA (honors classes) as did the valadictorian who was my good friend and also an avid gamer.

We are both also avid readers and were atheletes.

Videogames do not = bad in school, but I can agree that nothing but videogames is a bad thing, there's too much in this world that needs to be experienced to just game.

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Your last line only brings up the point of dissent with the President - All things in moderation.  Someone who spends every waking hour doing ANYTHING, be it games, reading, sports, the internet, is bound to have a crappy life in some way.  We just wish the President understood this.  If so, he might have actually done something to help the country by now.

 

Freedom of speech means the freedom to say ANYTHING, so long as it is the truth. This does not exclude anything that might hurt someone's feelings.

--- With the first link, the chain is forged.

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Kinda like how you spend every waking hour whining and blaming democrats for everything wrong in your life? Like that you mean? Oh right, I forgot anyone with an (R) by their name is exempt from it - its "do as I say, not as I do" with them.

 
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