Game Console Timer Billed as a Parental Helper, But...

Game Console Timer Billed as a Parental Helper, But...

June 29, 2009

A device that allows parents to limit their children's console gaming time has gotten a lot of attention around the Net over the past few days.

The Minneapolis-St. Paul Star Tribune kicked off the coverage with a Saturday article which decribed the GameDr (pronounced: "Game Doctor") and its 79-year-old inventor, John Morrissey. For the newspaper, the angle seemed primarily local, since Morrissey lives in Edina, Minnesota.

Such devices are not new, however. GamePolitics has reported on a few over the years.

Aside from being easily defeated by simply using a spare power cord, we have to wonder: If a parent can't say no to their child about their gaming time in the first place, how do they plan to say no when the kid protests the use of this device?

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Re: Game Console Timer Billed as a Parental Helper, But...

What if you're in the middle of an MGS4 install?

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Re: Game Console Timer Billed as a Parental Helper, But...

You are screwed.

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Re: Game Console Timer Billed as a Parental Helper, But...

or a DMC4 Install?

Re: Game Console Timer Billed as a Parental Helper, But...

Let's not forget how long a PS3 download takes.

Re: Game Console Timer Billed as a Parental Helper, But...

What if it cuts mid save?

Re: Game Console Timer Billed as a Parental Helper, But...

 Couldn't you just simply take it off. Lol

It didn't say anything about how it is locked on. Just simply take it off and that solves the issue. Its a piece of garbage.

 

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Re: Game Console Timer Billed as a Parental Helper, But...

 Old Guy: You see my plan is to put a timer device between the outlet and the power cable and it will turn the device off when the time is up .... 

Consumer: and how sir would a child not just circumvent this device ?

Old Guy: Because kids are stupid darn nabit

Consumer: and also sir as consoles have become more powerful they have started to reacqurie the same care as a PC meaning that yanking the power suddenly out of the device can cause damage to the File System let alone the information currently being accessed by the game such as save game information etc ... how does your device handle this?

Old Guy: God Darn Nabit you people can't raise your kids buy my crap and shut your pie hole.

Consumer: I see thank you sir.

Re: Game Console Timer Billed as a Parental Helper, But...

 As another side not how much you wanna bet a lawsuit happens against this company the first time it turns power off when a console is updating corrupting their hard drive and forcing them to rebuy anything they downloaded (I know Sony is evil about movie's that have been downloaded).

Re: Game Console Timer Billed as a Parental Helper, But...

Any lawsuit wouldn't have merit, due to the fact that it is not a device approved for use by any gaming company, and it isn't advertised as such.

 

Freedom of speech means the freedom to say ANYTHING, so long as it is the truth. This does not exclude anything that might hurt someone's feelings.

Re: Game Console Timer Billed as a Parental Helper, But...

Hee hee, I like that point, they would need to include some kind of disclaimer: "We do not accept responsibility for our device causing RRoD or any other kind of bricking to your sophisticated console system."

Also, this product to me seems like it supports parental laziness. From the same minds who brought you "pay no attention to what media your kid buys/consumes, let the state and the law handle this!", now comes "Don't even bother to check when they are playing, just use this stupid peice of equipment while you watch tv all evening!"

If you tell your kid(s), xbox goes off at 9pm, then it's your responsibility to go up to their room or wherever the console is and make sure that's what happens. If someone is so lazy that they can't get off their fat ass to do that much, then their kids are going to have worse problems than playing too much games, they are going to have the most shiftless wasters as primary role models! Confiscating the controllers does exactly the same thing and costs nothing except having some brains and a little bit of responsibility. Unfortunately that seems a little too pricey for some...

Re: Game Console Timer Billed as a Parental Helper, But...

Yeah I think it'll only take one 'Save Data corrupted, Continue anyway?" before the kid annihilates this thing with a sledgehammer. *insert generic 'parents should do their f***ing job' text here*

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Re: Game Console Timer Billed as a Parental Helper, But...

Capitalism: Beating common sense since whenever it became popular.

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Re: Game Console Timer Billed as a Parental Helper, But...

a more effective method than that useless piece of thing would be simply run to your local hardware store for a decent combination lock, and use it to lock your breaker panel when you've shut the breaker off to the room with the game console in it, much more effective totalitarianism :D

Re: Game Console Timer Billed as a Parental Helper, But...

My b/f's dad came up with a way to keep him off the tv when everyone was in bed. he created a box containging a 'light' swtich and an electrical outlet that had a cord to plug into a wall outlet. there was a notch cut in the lip of the box to allow cords to go into the box without being crimped by the lid. and the lid had a latch that could be secured with a padlock. Flip the switch, it would cut power to what ever was plugged into the box outlet. Once locked shut, one couldn't just unplug it from the 'control box' and plug it back into the wall.

Re: Game Console Timer Billed as a Parental Helper, But...

you know what, i don't think i would have thought about that, not like I should ever be in charge of the care of a child however :P

Re: Game Console Timer Billed as a Parental Helper, But...

The only use I could imagine for such a device is if the kid was home alone and the parent (or babysitter) wasn't there to oversee their activities.  Which wouldn't be ideal for any kid younger than 13 anyway.

Otherwise, yeah, save your money and just tell the kid to turn the damn thing off.  If he repeatedly doesn't listen, take the machine away for a while.  If they throw a tantrum, throw the machine out a second story window.

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And yes, I would destroy a several hundred dollar device if a child backtalked me.

Re: Game Console Timer Billed as a Parental Helper, But...

Because selling it just sends the wrong message. At the very least, throw the CHILD out the window and keep the console for yourself.

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Re: Game Console Timer Billed as a Parental Helper, But...

If you would destroy a several hundred dollar machine simply because of childish backtalk, you probably shouldn't be caring for children.

-Gray17

Re: Game Console Timer Billed as a Parental Helper, But...

+1.  Do yourself a favor, Arell.. Stay away from children.

Re: Game Console Timer Billed as a Parental Helper, But...

I support your strong parenting, however instead of busting it take it to a children's hospital or similar organization, teaching your kid two lessons in one go, responsible playing habits and charity.

Re: Game Console Timer Billed as a Parental Helper, But...

I like that idea if the console in question was only played by the kids. In my household, everyone plays on the console.

Re: Game Console Timer Billed as a Parental Helper, But...

A plug-in timer................ HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Do people really think that this is going to work. This is a Fail with a capital FAIL! But you know what truely makes this peice of hardware worthless is not that the kid can simply unplug and replug the console. No....

Its the fact that BOTH Xbox360 and PS3 have BUILT IN parental timers that are infinitly harder to circumvent in comparison. For example the Xbox360 allows the user/parent to set up a 4 digit combination code for accessing various parental control functions, Including a timer with hourly/daily/weekly settings. For the combination code there are roughly 8 buttons that can be used, meaning over 1000 different possible codes. I am doubtful little billy would have the patience to go through every single last combination. Any account playing the console is given X number of hours to play before you are prompted to input the code Otherwise the console will shut off; and it doesnt even quit the game when the time is up meaning no lost progress or damaged console. The parental controls on modern consoles are incredibly versitle, the problem is that most people, like this guy, doesnt seem to realize this.

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Re: Game Console Timer Billed as a Parental Helper, But...

Over 4000 different codes, actually, if there are 8 options. Most parents today would never want to make their little cupcake sad though...lest they have to actually deal with a child for once.

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Re: Game Console Timer Billed as a Parental Helper, But...

Back in my day, my parents would unplug the TV antenna and tell us that the TV was broken to force us outside.  They limited my game time to 30 min a day during the school week.   I'm grateful to them for that.

Too many parents these days are spineless (just like the rest of western society) and lazy. 

Re: Game Console Timer Billed as a Parental Helper, But...

My parents never cared how long I played on my NES and Playstation as long as my chores and grades were good. I guess they figured if I was being productive and such and had a hobby that didn't interfere with said productivity then why should they limit something that made me happy and allowed me a way kill time without doing stupid stuff.

Then again, my parents didn't view video games as some kind of evil soul crushing device so much as an interactive toy.

Re: Game Console Timer Billed as a Parental Helper, But...

Don't the current gen consoles have built-in timers anyway? The 360 does at least... 

More proof parents need to educate themselves on the features of game consoles. 

Re: Game Console Timer Billed as a Parental Helper, But...

 

The 360's timer is for inactivity.  If you let it idle for 8 hour or however long you set it it will turn off.  

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Re: Game Console Timer Billed as a Parental Helper, But...

Actually, there is, or was, a "Family Timer".  Not sure if it's still there because I had to sell my XBox 360 last month due to a trip I had to make.

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/support/familysettings/isyourfamilyset/familytimerfactsheet.htm

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Re: Game Console Timer Billed as a Parental Helper, But...

Of course it's still there. Only thing that's changed from what you linked to is, that it's not a separate download anymore. It just comes along with the rest of the default UI and is a vastly superior solution.

Re: Game Console Timer Billed as a Parental Helper, But...

For many, it's a useless tool.  But there are a few it may be useful for.

A Parent who feels their child can't be responsible enough to pay attention to a timer probably won't use it.

A child who doesn't want to abide by a timer will work to get around it.

But a Parent who has found that their child is responsbile enough and will abide by a timer might find it useful.  Yeah, the timer might catch them off guard.  But, at the same time, it will create a good habit in that the child will eventually find that finishing up well in advance and not getting started on something that will take a long time.  It can be one of several tools used to create responsibility and good habits.  For some anyway.  It just depends on the needs of the Parent and what they know of their child.

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Re: Game Console Timer Billed as a Parental Helper, But...

Does it lock on to the power cable in any way?

Also, why not just use the parental controls in the console?

Re: Game Console Timer Billed as a Parental Helper, But...

If a Parent can program their VCR (wadda ya mean, "What's that?"?  Shaddup!), they can probably program the Parental Controls.

If not, less technology is helpful.  :)

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